NOW USDGC AND USADGC QUALIFIERS!!!!!

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Announcing the Piney Woods Pro-Am VI! This is to be held December 12-13, 2009 and will be an A Tier for Pro/Advanced divisions and B Tier for Rec/Int/Jr. This year we will be benefitting the Children's Miracle Network, with money earmarked for juvenile diabetics.

As in the past years, the tournament will be held at Lindsey Park. This year a new Gold standard course will be played, along with our Blue and Red standards for the A Tier groups. Count it, three courses in one park!!! The Gold course is called Dogwood and includes a variety of different types of holes. You will be using just about every trick you have in your bag to be able to shoot well on Dogwood. The Rose City Disc Club is working hard to get the course complete before the event. We have the baskets cemented in, with alternate pins for 9 out of the 18 holes and will be working with the city to get the cement pads in before the tournament. The course is playable today, should you want to get some practice in, but will play very hard until the pads are in and the fairway grooming is completed. This is opposed to just being hard when we do J. The Dogwood course will only be played by the Pro and Advanced divisions. I am sorry if you want to play intermediate, but this course is simply too hard for intermediate and recreation play. From my experience, and others, this course is the hardest course in Texas. It is not just because of the trees, this course is technically challenging, requires strength and planning. Quite a few of the holes require well placed shots just to assure par and par is not necessarily a 3.
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Registration will be open within the next 2 weeks on www.TitleDisc.com (http://www.titledisc.com/), via e-mail, snail mail or before the tournament. Last year we were full and I had to turn a couple of players away. As I have stated in the past, I will NOT allow the tournament to overfill. Due to the shortness of daylight and the difficulty of the Dogwood course, I cannot allow 5 man cards. I would strongly suggest you pre-register to assure your place. Fortunately I only had to turn away some local players, so that they did not have far to drive to get home. Keep your eyes open for the day registration starts. I will randomly select one player from the first five players to register, and will gift that person with a tournament CFR disc. As in the past, all pro players to pre-register will receive a full color mini for the tournament. Also, do not call or e-mail and ask for a place to be held unless you are family, a sponsor or a previous winner. I cannot hold spaces since I had to turn away people last year.
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Over the next couple of weeks I will post additional info, such as hotels, etc. So keep checking back. I will see everyone in three months.

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As in the past, I am requesting sponsorship for the Piney Woods Pro Am. Sponsorship can be in the form of money, materials, assistance, etc. This tournament has been a benefit every year, except for the second, and even that year proceeds were donated to a Hurricane Katrina fund. This is a not for profit event and I can use your help. This event will be benefitting the Children's Miracle Network with money going to assist Juvenile Diabetics. The money will be used to help educate young diabetics in what diabetes is and how to take care of themselves. It will do this by helping them get to camps, where they can meet other diabetics and find that they are not alone in a disease that can be both physically and mentally debilitating.

So how can you help? There are several ways and I ask that you consider one of them. The first is to sponsor the tournament with money. All money will be divided up between the Children's Miracle Network, added funds to the professional payout and sponsoring the costs of player packages and tournament costs. Another way you can help is by donating materials. Last year we had enough materials donated that we gave a CTP to every card (36 CTP packages total). At an average value of $35 this was over $1000 worth of prizes spread out to 36 different players. So if you have any discs collecting dust in your garage, this is a great way to help the tournament be successful. Another way you can help is by donating items for our silent auction. Last year we raised about $500 that went directly to the charity from the silent auction. This, with sponsorship money collected, PDGA donations and player donations put our tournament at $3000 donated in the name of disc golf. Just for your peace of mind, with the exception of silent auction items, all donated materials are given away. No money from donated materials, including silent auction items, came back to payout or the tournament fees. It either was given away on CTPs or went into the silent auction where all money was donated to the charity. Please contact me at jerrypower@sbcglobal.net (jerrypower@sbcglobal.net) if you are interested in helping. This year I will be putting an autographed disc by "Steady" Ed Hedrick up for auction, if you cannot make the tournament, but are still interested in the autographed disc, drop me a line and I can work out a method of call ins so that you can also bid on the disc. I would like to keep the disc, but I believe Steady Ed would approve of the use of this disc to help raise money.

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Jerry Power

The Rose City Disc Club worked hard this past weekend to prepare the new course at Lindsey Park, Dogwood, for tournament play. We cleaned up multiple fairways and defined a few new ones as well. This course is kick *****! Within the next month the city promises to get the cement tee pads in and we will be working hard to finish out signs and a little bit more course tweaking. If you want to see this course before the tournament, come join the club mini's Saturday morning at 9. I would strongly suggest you play through the course once before the tournament. This course will require strategy to play well.

I will have the info up on www.titledisc.com (http://www.titledisc.com/) for pre-registering and strongly suggest you take advantage of it. Last year we had 146 players. With three courses we should be able to fit a few more players in, however this is not a true statement for the Intermediate/Rec and Jr�s. The max will be 72 for these divisions. Please pre-register if you plan to drive any distance at all. For Pro and Adv divisions the max will be 144, but since this is an A Tier, expect this number to be close to filling as well.
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I hope to see everyone in just over 2 months.

We can't wait!! Thanks to the Rose City Disc Club for ALL your hard work - I'm so excited to see the new course :)
Deidre

Course is tougher than manor????

I have never played Manor, so I can not tell you if it is tougher or not. What is the best open score for Manor?

I can tell you that it is the toughest course I have ever played. Unlike some tough courses, it is also fun.

I am determining the entry fees for the PWO now. My preference would be to leave entry fees about the same as last year. There would be some modification to handle the mandatory $25 player package for Adv divisions, but not much. This would probably make my tournament the cheapest A Tier around. As players what would be your preferences?

I think its 57 singles and maybe 53 in dubs at manor with 9 legit par fours---off the fairway it its ROUGH and the fairways arent real wide for the most part

I think its 57 singles and maybe 53 in dubs at manor with 9 legit par fours---off the fairway it its ROUGH and the fairways arent real wide for the most part

From these scores I would say they are about the same for the long pin position, with Dogwood maybe being slightly harder and a little easier for the short pin position. As for pars, we are trying to work that out now, but it is hard to figure. The fairways are "fair", but if you miss them you can quickly rack up points. I am a decent player and on the short pins my best score is 60. I would expect a top pro player to get 54 to 55. On the long pins my best score is 63 and I would expect a top pro to get around 56 to 58.

nice, hope I get to make it

We are in for sure, and we should be able to sponsor again this year as well. I can't wait to see the dogwood course, I've heard so many good things (mostly from Jerry :D).

It's ABOUT FREAKIN TIME this tournament became an A-Tier! Jerry puts on a great show and works his butt off for the players. The Rose City Disc Club is always there putting in extra hours and making sure this is a great tournament to attend. This is the event that I save up my free hotel nights for - just to be sure nothing gets in the way :)

Can't wait!

Just a reminder, this will be an A Tier event for Pro and Adv divisions. This means that you will need to be a current PDGA member to play. If you are not current you can sign up at the tournament to re-up or for a new membership. If you sign up at my event, you will be current for all of 2010, so if you are not current you get the benefit of playing the tournament, you get the remainder of the month as a PDGA member AND you will be current for all of 2010. If you do not want to sign up at the tournament you can re-up on line anytime in November and I believe you will be current for all of 2010 as well.

For Intermediate and Recreational players, you do not have to be a PDGA member to play.

I want to make this very clear. There will only by 72 players for the B-Tier Int/Rec/Jr portion of the Piney Woods Pro-Am. It will fill. I want to strongly encourage the B-Tier group to either step up your game and Play Adv or Open, or pre-register. I will have everyhting up on www.titledisc.com (http://www.titledisc.com) within the week.

so can this be a qualifier for USDGC Please, it would help all us Texas boys that can travel to all the NTs fro qualifyng spots.
and I am totally willing and so is DynamicDisc boys to see this thing turn into Texas's NT premeir event. I think Tyler can support NT and especially Lindsay park. Anything I can do to help this vision....Im in. Texas needs and deserves an NT, and I would much rather see you guys do it over the Houston guys screwing it up........Way to go Tyler you guys rock

I am determining the entry fees for the PWO now. My preference would be to leave entry fees about the same as last year. There would be some modification to handle the mandatory $25 player package for Adv divisions, but not much. This would probably make my tournament the cheapest A Tier around. As players what would be your preferences?

Well as Open player Im willing to pay higher entry cause i like the higher payout, most Texas open boys are coming to bring home cash, so ill pay whatever i have to , to make purse better to fight for, USDGC qualifier would be great also

Thanks for the praise,:o but I don't think we compare to Houston in any way, shape or form. They do a great job at fund raising and in helping smaller events to raise money. I have been very pleased with their assistance in the past. They are very well coordinated and their club is one of the stongest in the state. With that said, I don't see a problem with running an NT event and have considered it in the past. My problem is the fund raising part. I need sponsorship in the form of merchandise, cash and good will. I cannot seem to find big sponsorship and the club is simply not big enough to be able to raise funds at the same level of expertise that HFDS does. But thanks for the good words.


so can this be a qualifier for USDGC Please, it would help all us Texas boys that can travel to all the NTs fro qualifyng spots.
and I am totally willing and so is DynamicDisc boys to see this thing turn into Texas's NT premeir event. I think Tyler can support NT and especially Lindsay park. Anything I can do to help this vision....Im in. Texas needs and deserves an NT, and I would much rather see you guys do it over the Houston guys screwing it up........Way to go Tyler you guys rock

From the outside, it always looks like running the big events is a piece of cake. If players only realized how hard and for how long a club works to make events happen. And in reference to NT (not that big a deal) a situation arrises, after you've raised all your money, worked really hard to bring your event in.................big brother comes to tell you where to put the added cash you raised.

Here here to Super Tour events! Jerry, can't wait for this one.

BTW, I have to agree that Texas deserves a USDGC qualifier, and to infer that OK is close.......................those decision making gentlemen have never been to TEXAS! :D

I am currently checking into what it would take to be a USDGC qualifier. It may be too late this year, but as soon as I know, so will everyone else. I do want to point out that this event is first a benefit to the Children's Miracle Network. What this means is that while I can go to more companies to solicite money, I also will be donating part of it to the CMN. However, this has not stopped the event from having great payouts, but it kind of makes it difficult to divert money from one location to another. I will let everyone know.

I would much rather see you guys do it over the Houston guys screwing it up........

Hey Keith,

Watch how you talk about us Houston guys...

until you're ready to get involved and help, don't dis our efforts.

If you'd care to support that claim, be sure to do it under Scott's "NT's a Crock" rant thread and don't hijack this one.


Jerry,

Great job getting this put together. I look forward to finally playing one of your events, regardless of Tier status. I've heard nothing but good things about any event you've been involved with.

I have submitted a request to have the Piney Woods Pro Am added as a USDGC qualifier. I am not sure that the decision can be made in the time frame we have left, but if not then maybe next year. If you guys and gals are interested in helping the PWO become a qualifier then please go to the USDGC site and let them know what you think and feel about it.

I would like to let everyone know that this will be put on by the Rose City Disc Club in conjunction with Twisted Flier! Twisted Flier has always been a sponsor and has also been of great assistance in making sure that this little east Texas event has been successful. Thanks Joe for coming on board!

Jerry, do you have a host hotel yet? Or at least any suggestions?

As of today, I cannot get any better discounts than the PDGA discounts. I do have a Motel 6 that has promised excellent rates and I will verify and post. As for entry fees, I believe I have set the fees and will be posting them very soon.

Jerry, do you have a host hotel yet? Or at least any suggestions?

The Dogwood course will only be played by the Pro and Advanced divisions.

Jerry, is this to include senior (MPS and MPL) divisions, if enough players come? Also, would Advanced Grandmasters play the Dogwood Course?

As soon as you come up with flyers, post a link here and I'll get some up on the courses in North Louisiana.

The PDGA LaQuinta rate is actually pretty good. One room two full beds three adults 39.10 a night plus tax. 3.8 miles from the course. Looks nicer than the motel 6 too. Book'em Danno!

Jerry, if i send you proof of my reservation can I get the prize for being the first to sign up ? ;)

me (keith) and Jeremy with Dynamic Disc are willing to help what ever it takes to Make PineyWoods Texas's NT premier event. Tyler would be a great Venue.
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Is Piney a USDGC qualifier eevent and if not can it be.

Thanks for the praise,:o but I don't think we compare to Houston in any way, shape or form. They do a great job at fund raising and in helping smaller events to raise money. I have been very pleased with their assistance in the past. They are very well coordinated and their club is one of the stongest in the state. With that said, I don't see a problem with running an NT event and have considered it in the past. My problem is the fund raising part. I need sponsorship in the form of merchandise, cash and good will. I cannot seem to find big sponsorship and the club is simply not big enough to be able to raise funds at the same level of expertise that HFDS does. But thanks for the good words.

well again, I bring on board that I am well networked in Texas and can help to bring communication together to make an NT work. I think you guys In Tyler would do great for discgolf and Texas with an NT, great city, great club, great courses, great Location for NT. Me and Jeremy with Dynamic Disc will help to make an NT happen, what do you need for us to make this happen.???

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I have submitted a request to have the Piney Woods Pro Am added as a USDGC qualifier. I am not sure that the decision can be made in the time frame we have left, but if not then maybe next year. If you guys and gals are interested in helping the PWO become a qualifier then please go to the USDGC site and let them know what you think and feel about it.

I would like to let everyone know that this will be put on by the Rose City Disc Club in conjunction with Twisted Flier! Twisted Flier has always been a sponsor and has also been of great assistance in making sure that this little east Texas event has been successful. Thanks Joe for coming on board!

yes I emailed USDGC and begged for Piney to be a qualifier...

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cant wait till Pineywoods.

I am still working on trying to get the PWO as a USDGC qualifier and will let all you Pro players know if I do, however for the Amateur players......

Announcing the Piney Woods Pro Am VI will be a USADGC qualifier. Go to http://amnationals.com/ to get more info on this great event!! More to come later.

That is great, Jerry!!!!

Either way I will be FINALLY attending my first piney woodds

me too, look forward to it, when is it again

December 12-13

It is with a heavy heart that I must announce I will not be able to run this event this year. I have a family crisis that is going to require my attention elsewhere during the tournament scheduled date. Joshua Dann of www.titledisc.com (http://www.titledisc.com) has agreed to assist the Rose City Disc Club in helping to run this tournament in the manner I have run it in the past. Josh and Deidre are great people and Josh is committed to keeping this event run in as close to the same manner as I would, as possible. There is a strong likelyhood that I will be around on Sunday to assist in the final portion of the event, but I cannot be there Friday or Saturday. I want very much to be there, but my immediate family is of greater importance.

I and the club will continue to obtain sponorship money and this will still be a benefit to the Children's Miracle Network. I will do most of the work I have done in the past in preparing tournament schedules, cleaning the park up, determining course layouts, etc., etc., etc.

Please do not back out of the event because I am not going to be there. The Children's Miracle Network is a great charity and every dollar we raise makes a huge impact.

I will continue to work to make this a USDGC qualifier and try hard to add any other perks that I can. I hope to see everyone for at least a small portion of the event, and if things change maybe I will be there for the full event, but I can make no promises.

What Jerry says is correct - we have agreed to do whatever it takes to make this year's event a huge success. I was in Rochester, NY yesterday when I got the call :). We're just "keeping it warm" for Jerry though - I want to play next year!

We will be doing everything possible to mimic Jerry's style and methods. The Piney Woods Pro/Am is a great tournament (quite possibly my favorite of the year), and that's the doing of Jerry and the Rose City Disc Club. This year's A-tier event will be the biggest and baddest yet!

Staying true to Jerry's methods, we are going to use pre-packaged payout with almost all tournament-stamped discs. I'm hoping that we can also have the standard Piney Woods trophies - I will be talking to Jerry about that in the next few days.

There is still much to firm up, but I have some ideas that I want to discuss with Rose City, including an eagle bounty for Long 2 on the blue course! More info as we have it :)

Josh and Title disc rock....people no worries they will do this right...
Title disc runs great stuff and will host a great event. Peeps dont miss this one its gonna be great...

I am still working on trying to get the PWO as a USDGC qualifier and will let all you Pro players know if I do, however for the Amateur players......

Announcing the Piney Woods Pro Am VI will be a USADGC qualifier. Go to http://amnationals.com/ to get more info on this great event!! More to come later.

wow this will be a USDGC qualifier for the 2010 seasno...wow thats awesome way to go Jerry and Tyler Yall rock..

I am trying for 2010 and still this year to make it a USDGC qualifier, but as of today it is a USAGDC qualifier.


wow this will be a USDGC qualifier for the 2010 seasno...wow thats awesome way to go Jerry and Tyler Yall rock..

An FYI for any Tyler locals or anyone else who might be interested :) -

Deidre and I will be in Tyler on Saturday to hang out with the Rose City crew and talk about details for the tournament. We're going to try to bring a few DFW folks with us, but if anyone else wants to meet us out there and play a round on the new dogwood course, please feel free to join in! We should be out there at 9:00am, and I know their regularly scheduled mini starts at 10:00am. We'll likely be here all day to try and meet with as many folks as we can. There will likely be more than one round of golf :D

I also want you guys to know that Jerry is busting his hump for this tournament. Even though I'll be the official TD this year, most of the legwork is being done by Jerry and the Rose City group. I also want to publicly thank them for having enough confidence in me to allow me to pilot this ship.

I can't freakin' wait :D

Got out to Tyler yesterday. The Dogwood course is GREAT! Technical the whole way through...and beautiful to boot, you really get to enjoy the piney woods. I have always enjoyed the Tyler courses, but now with three great courses on one peice of property...all I can say is WOW.

Tyler has got to be on the map for Texas disc golf...you could play 5 rounds at one location and not play the same layout twice. You have to use every shot in the book on every course. Rudy's BBQ right down the road. IMO Lindsey park in Tyler is what disc golf should be!

Thank you Tyler disc golf...I cannot wait for the PWO!

The courses will forever more have names, Dogwood, Hickory and Cedar which are our Gold, Blue and Red standard courses. Dogwood is indeed hard and I suspect it will kick a few people in the rear. In my mind at least, it is a great Gold Standard. You can play it smart and come in around par (around 60) or agressive and come in around 56 or 70. It is all up to you. A missed shot will mean at least a stroke (or two or three or four). A perfect shot can obtain a bird or even an eagle or ace. However, a bird may be a three on many holes on the course. On at least two holes in the long pins a three will feel like an eagle when everyone else comes in with a 5 or 6.

Over the next two weeks the city will pour the tee pads and the club will finish the signs. I am working on a map now and will try to post it for any early practice rounds.

As of today I believe the course will be played in the following manner:




Saturday Morning:

Pro - Dogwood SHORT pins

Adv - Red Long tees, long pins

Int/Rec - Tier Blue Long tees, long pins

Saturday Afternoon:

Pro - Red Long Tees, long pins
Adv - Dogwood SHORT pins
Int/Rec - BLUE short tees, long pins
Sunday Morning:

Pro - Blue longs
Adv - Dogwood long pins
Int/Rec - Red long tees, long pins
Sunday Afternoon:

Pro - Dogwood long pins
Adv - Blue longs
Int/Rec - Red short tees, long pins
There will be no short pins this year, except on Dogwood this should make some of the Int/Rec players happy, some not so happy. More to come........

Online registration is now available at http://www.TitleDISC.com/ - be sure you're registering for the correct event, based on division. I've split it up into Pro/Adv (A-tier) and Int/Rec (B-tier). All entry fees include the PDGA fee and the $3 charity donation.

Just a push for the Int/Rec groups in the B tier. The B tier will fill at 72 players. If you plan on driving I would strongly suggest you pre-register. Once the B Tier group is full, you will be turned away. If you want to play and decide to step up, then bravo, but you must be a full PDGA member to play with the the Big Boys and Girls.

The club has finished the clearing work. We spent a bit of time reviewing the boxes and for those of you that have played the course, one or two have changed due to better placement for pouring the cement pads. Those should be finished this week or by early next week. Several of the pads had to be moved to find the flatest placement. One basket had to be moved, due to it's location in a washout area. So, if you come over this weekend, you should see everything as it is to be played. We are working hard to get signs out and a little completed map. If you can make it this Satruday morning at 10AM you should be able to play a completed course with some local help to show routes.

Later.

Looks like a good size group from Round Rock will be there
This will be my first

USDGC qualifier for us Open players ???? come on Texas

Yes that would be sweet... but even if it can't happen for this year, we will show them that we deserve to be on the list for next year!

I learned this weekend that we'll have help from the Twisted One! Between TitleDISC, Twisted Flyer, Jerry Power, and the Rose City Disc Club, this tournament is sure to be one for the ages. Quite a few are signed up already. Let's get that ball rolling even faster - don't forget that there are hard caps on each of the pools. The easiest way to be sure you have a spot is to register early!

I'm in already. Will that make it get here quicker?

Working on getting additional sponsorships....cross your fingers!!

- Deidre

I have contacted Innova about the USDGC qualifier status and have been told that it is probably too late this year, however there is a back door I am working on. After consulting with the State Coordinator and talking with Innova I believe I can get this tournament as a regional qualifier. No one else has asked for it, so this would be a great event for it. This will open up 5 slots (I believe) for qualification to the USDGC. Players would be picked from top scores and would NOT include exempt, such as top money earners. The downside is that it may be a while before you know for sure if you were in the bottom portion of the top group. I will continue working with Gary Duke and Innova to verify this.

For the Ams, don't forget that as an Advanced division player (Adv, Adv Master, etc) you ARE entering a USAGDC qualifier.

More later...........

I will talk to the rest of the Double R cabinet to see if we can sponsor this great event. Round Rock may be in the house in more than one way. Can't wait to play this event and visit the Rose City club for the first time.

edman, all sponsorship would be deeply appreciated.

The park has many of the boxes now poured. I have not seen them, I was just told that. I am hoping they are all finished by this weekend. Saturday morning at 10 mini for those that want to play the "Dogwood"! No club fees, you have the oppurtunity to pay in for the ace pot.

Now a USDGC qualifier!!!

You, asked and Innova has come through, the Piney Woods Pro-Am VI will be the first USDGC qualifier for 2010!!! Do not hesitate to enter, this may be your only chance for this region to qualify!

Thanks to all those that wrote in and spoke with Innova, your good words and letters are what pulled this event into this awesome series.

That is amazing!!!!!
I'm even more excited now than I was before.....crazy but true!

- deidre

I'd suggest a thread with a header about the USDGC qualifier

TEXAS USDGC QUALIFIER! DECEMBER 12-13th! PINEY WOODS PRO/AM!

Also see if you can change the title under tournament listings, and also add something to the homepage of your website. Just a thought.

Heck, see if this can be a USDGC news item for the front page. Not that much happens in Nov/Dec.

Coming down from Memphis for this one... The only other gold courses I've played are Idlewild in KY and Trace in MS.

Does a guy have a chance if he's playing it blind after arriving there that morning?

Lol... Here goes my rating...

Excited,
Robby

Oceanjones quoted that LaQuinta had rooms for 39.10, but I called them and they said they didn't know anything about the group rates for PDGA.

She didn't know what the PDGA was...

Hmm...
Robby~*~

Oceanjones quoted that LaQuinta had rooms for 39.10, but I called them and they said they didn't know anything about the group rates for PDGA.

She didn't know what the PDGA was...

Hmm...
Robby~*~

Booked it online using the PDGA code at checkout. Its a corporate thing, so the local office may not know about it.

http://www.lq.com/lq/index.jsp
and
http://www.pdga.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=28152

Cool... Thanks Oceanjones for the help with that...

I have another question. I don't know how the rules work with PDGA divisions and registration.

I did notice though, that Mark Nolan (23687) is registered as Advanced Amateur and he has a 973 rating. He also cashed in Open in May for $114. Is he allowed to register since this tournament will be more than 6 months since a cash in Pro? Or are the ratings never enforced and more of a suggested thing?

Honestly not trying to ruffle feathers. Just trying to figure out how this works. I live in Memphis where we don't have many PDGA events. I travel to the ones I attend.

Cool... Thanks Oceanjones for the help with that...

I have another question. I don't know how the rules work with PDGA divisions and registration.

I did notice though, that Mark Nolan (23687) is registered as Advanced Amateur and he has a 973 rating. He also cashed in Open in May for $114. Is he allowed to register since this tournament will be more than 6 months since a cash in Pro? Or are the ratings never enforced and more of a suggested thing?

Honestly not trying to ruffle feathers. Just trying to figure out how this works. I live in Memphis where we don't have many PDGA events. I travel to the ones I attend.

PDGA allows anyone under 975 to play ADV in all events except Majors. So he can't qualify for USADGC

I am going to tell everyone the secret to playing Dogwood......

fairway, fairway, fairway......... also keep in mind a 4 is a par on multiple holes and some of those are hard pars :D

PDGA allows anyone under 975 to play ADV in all events except Majors. So he can't qualify for USADGC

It's 970 according to the Competition Manual and the 2009 Player Divisions Grid.

http://www.pdga.com/files/documents/09PlayerDivisionsGrid_1.pdf

http://www.pdga.com/files/documents/08CompetitionManual.pdf

I assure you that all players will be playing in a division they are eligible for. Mark may not have fully understood the restrictions when signing up, but that's an issue I will take care of. I know Mark and he wasn't trying to cheat the system :). If anyone reading this thread has any questions about what divisions they are eligible for, the links posted by Abyrd above are a great resource.

Players are starting to pour in! Still almost two weeks to go and spots are filling up fast. Please remember that there are hard caps on the pools. We simply cannot take more than 72 for the B-tier or 144 for the A-tier. The players just won't fit. If you want to be a part of this awesome event, please get registered early!

Mark Nolan cashed out in merchandise at the Giles Memorial. This allows him to keep his amateur status. The PDGA web site does not reflect payout in merchandise. I will go back and make sure I correctly filled in the info with the PDGA, but I am pretty sure I did. Mark is an amateur. Secondly, don't let the 974 rating fool you. Mark is a good player, but his rating is based solely on courses he plays often. This year with the Dogwood, I suspect he will drop some in his ratings.


PDGA allows anyone under 975 to play ADV in all events except Majors. So he can't qualify for USADGC

When is the Reg list going to be up of who has signed up so far?

Go to www.titledisc.com (http://www.titledisc.com) to see pre-registeration todate. Locals are signing up locally and I am receiving forms in the mail, but I do not have those posted yet.


When is the Reg list going to be up of who has signed up so far?

So, there are 144 spots for the pros and advanced?

I don't realy care what division I play in. I'll play what I have to. - Thanks Jerry for your confidence in me and my rating.

I don't realy care what division I play in. I'll play what I have to. - Thanks Jerry for your confidence in me and my rating.

If thats true bro play Open with us, "975" home courses or not, your right around the corner with regards to your game. Compete for $$$$ bro !!!!!! Its time. We will make U better...

Jerry (or the TD), which divisions are eligible for the USDGC spot?

AND

What is the meaning of "disc54"? I am curious. :)

If thats true bro play Open with us, "975" home courses or not, your right around the corner with regards to your game. Compete for $$$$ bro !!!!!! Its time. We will make U better...


JD Ramirez............ always willing to take people's money.


Still a nice guy though.lol

JD Ramirez............ always willing to take people's money.


Still a nice guy though.lol

No way jus giving advice to a fellow discgolfer, if he is anything like me then he probably wants to be the best @ what he does including throwing plastic. I want everyone to be their best, ok except for Brad Williams and Matt Hall :) lol..... No even both of U guys....To everyone thats want to attend and compete sign up on Titledisc Asap, this bad boy will fill...C U guys in Tyler............................................. ............................Peace.

what about you, kid? you gonna try to come take some of the money? :D

Mark has the game for Open, but he's an Amateur like Jerry said. Anyway, issues like that aren't really the point of this thread - I'll be sure that everyone is in the right place. Back to the topic at hand - 50-ish players on the list already and verbal confirmation from several more who will be on the list as soon as their paid registration is received.

A very important note - verbal/email/posting confirmations do *NOT* guarantee you a spot. I have run many tournaments that filled in advance, and there is *always* someone who "didn't know that it would fill so fast" or "said they were going to be there". We have to be fair to everyone - spots are reserved on a first come, first served basis... by paid entry only. This is set to be one of the largest events in TX for 2009 (if not *the* largest). There is only so much room. I can't stress enough that early registration is the only way to be sure you have a spot. Sign up online @ TitleDISC.com or by mail or in person with Jerry.

If you have issues signing up on TitleDISC.com (over 1100 members on the site who are able to successfully register... most of them many times... the site works just fine ;) ) then you can send an email to me - josh@titledisc.com - and I will try to help you resolve the issue. If you would prefer to register by mail, you can send the entry to:

TitleDISC
3000 Blake St.
Corinth, TX 76210

Make checks payable to TitleDISC. Entries mailed in *must* be received on or before 12/09/2009. Otherwise, I will not get them before leaving for Tyler. Any entries received by mail *after* the tournament is full will be returned to sender. I suggest including a working phone number with your mailed entry so that I can call anyone who did not get in.

See you all in Tyler :)

72 for pro, 72 for advanced.


So, there are 144 spots for the pros and advanced?

[QUOTE=james_mccaine;1404018]Jerry (or the TD), which divisions are eligible for the USDGC spot?

just curious

I'm 99% sure that it's just Open but I will clarify that. I mean... We're talking about the USDGC, not the Masters Cup ;)

OK, it looks like all divisions that play in the same pool as Open can qualify for the USDGC spots. So, if you have the game to place in the top Open spots but choose to play one of the age-protected divisions... you just might be a bagger but I think you can still qualify :p

I'm still waiting on confirmation from the USDGC folks, but this is the word from our illustrious state coordinator :D

This is set to be one of the largest events in TX for 2009 (if not *the* largest).


Texas States was 216, so you'll have to run some ghost cards to beat that! ;)

Looking forward to playing Tyler again.

No problem Mark, happy to help:p

For everyone else. I have contacted the PDGA and Mark Nolan is NOT a pro player and did not receive cash at the Paul Giles. He very specifically stated he wanted either to bypass payout or receive merchandise to hold on to his amateur status. Hell, I can beat Mark and I suck.


I don't realy care what division I play in. I'll play what I have to. - Thanks Jerry for your confidence in me and my rating.

Just because Jerry thinks he CAN beat me doesn't mean he ever actually does.

Texas States was 216, so you'll have to run some ghost cards to beat that! ;)

Looking forward to playing Tyler again.

sounds like a challenge! :D

BTW, we can hold 72 in the B-tier and 144 in the A-tier. If we fill to capacity... that's a tie :p

Another note: If you would like to act as a vendor at this tournament, you must contact me or Jerry first. We will have a vendor area near tournament HQ, but it is limited in space. Thanks!

Wow... we *just* received 35 sweet-looking Innova Inncolor Star Makos! I'll be listing these for sale on the TitleDISC pro-shop in a few minutes. All proceeds support the tournament. Be one of the first to get one of these awesome discs!

Link to the product page for this disc: http://www.titledisc.com/node/2556

Image:
http://www.titledisc.com/sites/default/files/PWPO6-Mako.jpg?1259858720

You can purchase these separately, or with your online registration. Tournament Pickup is available as a shipping option for those of you who want to pick them up in Tyler.

Looking forward to playing my first PW, How many USDGC spots are up for grab?

I'm definitely gonna buy one of these if they are NOT in the Am packs. Will there be a tournament stamped disc in the Am packs?

Thanks,
Robby

Jd, It's a little too cold for an old brown guy. I don't know how your going to throw your grandpa hyzers in that weather... Don't worry, I'll be there to watch you try. :)

Brad

p.s I'll be there for your demo in Crowley!

Robby, the Inncolor Star Makos will not be in the amateur packs, but there will be a tournament stamped disc in the A-tier am packs, and a tournament t-shirt plus some other goodies in both the A-tier and B-tier packs. We have a ton of cool stuff that will be given away, but I need to get it all in-hand and organized before I decide what all will go in the players packs and what will be CTP prizes.

Vinnie, I'm still awaiting confirmation on some of the details surrounding the USDGC spots. I'll post them as soon as I have them. You waiting on that info before you register? :)

Brad, I don't see you on the list yet, either :P

The top 5 scores will be given an invite. This will NOT include the top 20 from the event, earlier this year. So if for instance David Feldberg and Niko should show up and played, they already have invites and would not be included in the top five. This top five will be from ANY open division. Score is the only important factor.

USADGC qualification!! The top 20% of the advanced division will receive a qualification for the United States Amateur Disc Golf Championship. This will be transferred via e-mail. Please note that to qualify for this you MUST be playing in the Advanced Division!

I will be there....I'll be signing up early Friday morning

Jd, It's a little too cold for an old brown guy. I don't know how your going to throw your grandpa hyzers in that weather... Don't worry, I'll be there to watch you try. :)

Brad

p.s I'll be there for your demo in Crowley!


LOL !!! Sweet, "U will B their to watch" jus dont fall to far behind, I wouldnt want U to miss it !!!! ;) ............ C U N Tyler homie.......

We wanted a USDGC QUALIFIER N TX.... Here it is !! All Pro Players come on lets do this and get qualified...... peace

Jd, It's a little too cold for an old brown guy. I don't know how your going to throw your grandpa hyzers in that weather... Don't worry, I'll be there to watch you try. :)

Brad

p.s I'll be there for your demo in Crowley!

homie = babytbird

last cash = disc54

Robby, the Inncolor Star Makos will not be in the amateur packs, but there will be a tournament stamped disc in the A-tier am packs, and a tournament t-shirt plus some other goodies in both the A-tier and B-tier packs. We have a ton of cool stuff that will be given away, but I need to get it all in-hand and organized before I decide what all will go in the players packs and what will be CTP prizes.

Vinnie, I'm still awaiting confirmation on some of the details surrounding the USDGC spots. I'll post them as soon as I have them. You waiting on that info before you register? :)

Brad, I don't see you on the list yet, either :P



Should be 5 spots like all other qualifiers

There will be 5 spots.


Should be 5 spots like all other qualifiers

last cash = disc54

http://thm-a01.yimg.com/image/f8fb0dcf72d35732 = oceanjones ;)

last cash = disc54


No that's Eric Soete.............BCP Bottom Cashing Pro

http://thm-a01.yimg.com/image/f8fb0dcf72d35732 = oceanjones ;)

Is that a firebird? I prefer the Destroyer thank you very much. Most likely though I will rely on my Buzz at PW...it seems to go just a little straighter than the ...

firebird. LOL :D

burn

homie = babytbird



Hey Jd, what's this.... ---> (knuckle)? Lol

Hey Jd, what's this.... ---> (knuckle)? Lol

JD = Ignorant to the act of Bow-nt'n

<--- guy in the pic.............knows all about it...."F&#k"

JD = Ignorant to the act of Bow-nt'n

<--- guy in the pic.............knows all about it...."F&#k"



Matt Hall = Drive far, putt low, Bow-nt

UPS guy just delivered the sponsorship stuff from Tony and Kat Bender, and from Twisted Flyer. The added merch pile is growing :)

At Tony's request, a few of the items he sent will be used in the Silent Auction. This is a good time to talk about that... right now we have a total of 5 lots in the Silent Auction. Here's what we have so far. You'll have to bid at the tournament :)

In no particular order...

2003 USDGC CE Roc - orange - (175g)

Innova RubberWood keeper/thrower set (1 lot, 3 discs)
- Japan Open RW Roc - keeper - (156g)
- TitleDISC Mesquite Open RW Aviar - thrower - (175g)
- TitleDISC Mesquite Open RW Roc - thrower - (180g)

2008 USDGC Aviar, signed by Nate Doss - white - (175g)

Piney Woods 4-6 Discraft set - (1 lot, 3 discs)
- 2007 Piney Woods IV ColorMax Z Surge (172g)
- 2008 Piney Woods V FullColor Buzzz (178g)
- 2009 Piney Woods VI ColorMax Z Stalker (175g)

Twisted Tour Set - (1 lot, 4 items)
- 2009 Twisted Tour DX Roc - white (178g)
- 2009 Twisted Tour Star Max - yellow (175g)
- Twisted Flyer Visor - black / silver / yellow

More stuff is being added over the coming week. If you'd like to contribute something to the silent auction, please email me a description (josh@titledisc.com) and bring it to the tournament :). 100% of all money taken in from the silent auction goes straight to the CMN!

We will also have CFR Glow Coyotes and CFR Teerex-Xs for sale at the event. I don't have them in hand yet to put on the ProShop, but they will be there for the tournament.

If you've been wanting to get your hands on one of the new Worlds Fundraiser Star Katanas... we will have those too :)

Does anyone have hole measurements/lengths for the Blue and Red course for Long tees / Long pins?

I'm especially interested in the lengths for the Dogwood Longs and Shorts? I'm coming down and playing em all blind in ADV and just curious if this information is out there somewhere.

I have been pondering the idea of heading up Thursday afternoon to check the Dogwood out and since my Classes in Lufkin are pretty much halfway there I figured its a good excuse to get some practice in.

Anyway if I am going to head up early I was going to see if I can get a place to stay since my roommates for he weekend at this point are planning on leaving Friday. I don't have any locals' numbers or anything but if anyone has a place to crash it would be much appreciated and if anyone wants to meet up on Thursday PM me and we can check it out.

I just happen to have a blue card here with me with the lengths of blue course(hickory) i have a red card around here somewhere ill try to get it on here .The measurements from the dogwood were just taken recently I dont have them.

The dogwoods length is around 6800 ft . I couldnt get my scanner to work but heres the lengths of holes for red course ( cedar) .
Hole 1 - 262 , 317
2- 198 , 219
3 - 372 , 718
4- 309 , 344
5-269,328
6-226,285
7-198,241
8-335 , 386
9-270,337
10-377,266
11-329,626
12-286,284
13-201,324
14-216,340
15-318,410
16- 404,447
17-266,405
18-306,432 . The measurements were retaken when the new tombstone signs were put in I dont know if these are the current , but if not the old measurements were close to the same anyway .

Oh by the way , the scores on that blue card are not from the blue course( hickory) those are from the dogwood( gold course) .thats the best Ive been able to do +12 but I missed a few putts that day to.

Dogwood
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BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" align=right>230</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt; mso-height-source: userset" height=17><TD class=xl68 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; WIDTH: 28pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=37 height=17>15</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" align=right>295</TD><TD class=xl69 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" align=right>275</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt; mso-height-source: userset" height=17><TD class=xl68 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; WIDTH: 28pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=37 height=17>16</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" align=right>270</TD><TD class=xl69 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" align=right>270</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt; mso-height-source: userset" height=17><TD class=xl70 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>17</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" align=right>535</TD><TD class=xl69 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" align=right>535</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt; mso-height-source: userset" height=17><TD class=xl68 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; WIDTH: 28pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=37 height=17>18</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" align=right>355</TD><TD class=xl69 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" align=right>340</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt; mso-height-source: userset" height=17><TD class=xl71 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>Total</TD><TD class=xl72 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" align=right>7085</TD><TD class=xl73 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" align=right>6275</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Cedar - Red
<TABLE style="WIDTH: 84pt; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=111 border=0><COLGROUP><COL style="WIDTH: 28pt; mso-width-source: userset; mso-width-alt: 1353" span=3 width=37><TBODY><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt; mso-height-source: userset" height=17><TD class=xl68 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; WIDTH: 28pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=37 height=17>Hole</TD><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 28pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=37>Long</TD><TD class=xl69 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 28pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=37>Short</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt; mso-height-source: userset" height=17><TD class=xl68 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>1</TD><TD class=xl66 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 28pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=37>317</TD><TD class=xl69 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">262</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt; mso-height-source: userset" height=17><TD class=xl68 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>2</TD><TD class=xl66 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 28pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=37>219</TD><TD class=xl69 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">198</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt; mso-height-source: userset" height=17><TD class=xl68 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>3</TD><TD class=xl66 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 28pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=37>526</TD><TD class=xl69 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">372</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt; mso-height-source: userset" height=17><TD class=xl68 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>4</TD><TD class=xl66 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 28pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=37>344</TD><TD class=xl69 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">309</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt; mso-height-source: userset" height=17><TD class=xl68 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>5</TD><TD class=xl66 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 28pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=37>328</TD><TD class=xl69 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">269</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt; mso-height-source: userset" height=17><TD class=xl68 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>6</TD><TD class=xl66 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 28pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=37>285</TD><TD class=xl69 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">226</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt; mso-height-source: userset" height=17><TD class=xl68 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>7</TD><TD class=xl66 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 28pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=37>241</TD><TD class=xl69 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">198</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt; mso-height-source: userset" height=17><TD class=xl68 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>8</TD><TD class=xl66 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 28pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=37>386</TD><TD class=xl69 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">335</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt; mso-height-source: userset" height=17><TD class=xl68 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>9</TD><TD class=xl66 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 28pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=37>337</TD><TD class=xl69 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">270</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt; mso-height-source: userset" height=17><TD class=xl68 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>10</TD><TD class=xl66 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 28pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=37>377</TD><TD class=xl69 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">266</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt; mso-height-source: userset" height=17><TD class=xl68 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>11</TD><TD class=xl66 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 28pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=37>626</TD><TD class=xl69 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">329</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt; mso-height-source: userset" height=17><TD class=xl68 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>12</TD><TD class=xl66 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 28pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=37>284</TD><TD class=xl69 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">286</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt; mso-height-source: userset" height=17><TD class=xl68 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>13</TD><TD class=xl66 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 28pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=37>324</TD><TD class=xl69 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">201</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt; mso-height-source: userset" height=17><TD class=xl68 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>14</TD><TD class=xl66 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 28pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=37>340</TD><TD class=xl69 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">216</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt; mso-height-source: userset" height=17><TD class=xl68 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>15</TD><TD class=xl66 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 28pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=37>318</TD><TD class=xl69 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">410</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt; mso-height-source: userset" height=17><TD class=xl68 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>16</TD><TD class=xl66 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 28pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=37>447</TD><TD class=xl69 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">404</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt; mso-height-source: userset" height=17><TD class=xl68 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>17</TD><TD class=xl66 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 28pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=37>405</TD><TD class=xl69 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">266</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt; mso-height-source: userset" height=17><TD class=xl68 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>18</TD><TD class=xl66 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 28pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=37>432</TD><TD class=xl69 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">306</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt; mso-height-source: userset" height=17><TD class=xl67 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>Total</TD><TD class=xl70 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">6536</TD><TD class=xl71 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">5123</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Hickory - Blue
<TABLE style="WIDTH: 84pt; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=111 border=0><COLGROUP><COL style="WIDTH: 28pt; mso-width-source: userset; mso-width-alt: 1353" span=3 width=37><TBODY><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt; mso-height-source: userset" height=17><TD class=xl68 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; WIDTH: 28pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=37 height=17>Hole</TD><TD class=xl65 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 28pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=37>Long</TD><TD class=xl69 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 28pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=37>Short</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt; mso-height-source: userset" height=17><TD class=xl68 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>1</TD><TD class=xl66 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 28pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=37>636</TD><TD class=xl69 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">456</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt; mso-height-source: userset" height=17><TD class=xl68 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>2</TD><TD class=xl66 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 28pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=37>922</TD><TD class=xl69 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">799</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt; mso-height-source: userset" height=17><TD class=xl68 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>3</TD><TD class=xl66 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 28pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=37>474</TD><TD class=xl69 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">377</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt; mso-height-source: userset" height=17><TD class=xl68 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>4</TD><TD class=xl66 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 28pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=37>478</TD><TD class=xl69 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">308</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt; mso-height-source: userset" height=17><TD class=xl68 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>5</TD><TD class=xl66 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 28pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=37>389</TD><TD class=xl69 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">271</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt; mso-height-source: userset" height=17><TD class=xl68 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>6</TD><TD class=xl66 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 28pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=37>334</TD><TD class=xl69 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">256</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt; mso-height-source: userset" height=17><TD class=xl68 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>7</TD><TD class=xl66 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 28pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=37>201</TD><TD class=xl69 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">161</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt; mso-height-source: userset" height=17><TD class=xl68 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>8</TD><TD class=xl66 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 28pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=37>250</TD><TD class=xl69 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">192</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt; mso-height-source: userset" height=17><TD class=xl68 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>9</TD><TD class=xl66 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 28pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=37>318</TD><TD class=xl69 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">217</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt; mso-height-source: userset" height=17><TD class=xl68 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>10</TD><TD class=xl66 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 28pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=37>276</TD><TD class=xl69 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">158</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt; mso-height-source: userset" height=17><TD class=xl68 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>11</TD><TD class=xl66 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 28pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=37>227</TD><TD class=xl69 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">151</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt; mso-height-source: userset" height=17><TD class=xl68 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>12</TD><TD class=xl66 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 28pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=37>170</TD><TD class=xl69 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">150</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt; mso-height-source: userset" height=17><TD class=xl68 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>13</TD><TD class=xl66 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 28pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=37>424</TD><TD class=xl69 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">332</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt; mso-height-source: userset" height=17><TD class=xl68 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>14</TD><TD class=xl66 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 28pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=37>451</TD><TD class=xl69 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">321</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt; mso-height-source: userset" height=17><TD class=xl68 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>15</TD><TD class=xl66 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 28pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=37>400</TD><TD class=xl69 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">285</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt; mso-height-source: userset" height=17><TD class=xl68 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>16</TD><TD class=xl66 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 28pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=37>420</TD><TD class=xl69 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">340</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt; mso-height-source: userset" height=17><TD class=xl68 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>17</TD><TD class=xl66 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 28pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=37>247</TD><TD class=xl69 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">200</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt; mso-height-source: userset" height=17><TD class=xl68 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>18</TD><TD class=xl66 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 28pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=37>290</TD><TD class=xl69 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">248</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt; mso-height-source: userset" height=17><TD class=xl67 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>Total</TD><TD class=xl70 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">6907</TD><TD class=xl71 style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">5222</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Dogwood is substaintially complete. We still need the final signs, but the tee pads and baskets are DONE. The course plays hard, both long and short.

Currently the weather is looking great for the event. Temps are supposed to be highs in the upper 50's lower 60's and lows in the mid to upper 40's. Perfect temps for East Texas disc golf. I have a couple of handfulls of entrees I will try to get to Josh today to add the www.titledisc.com (http://www.titledisc.com), but I would suggest if you are wanting to play, you pre-register. This tournament cannot overfill due to daylight timing. The only overfill will be due to division lineups. 5 man cards cannot be done.

If you are driving in from any distance you should pre-register. Last year I had to turn a few players away. If you do not want to sign up online, drop me an e-mail at jerrypower@sbcglobal.net and I will send you an entry form you can fill out and complete and an address to send it to. Do not mail after Wednesday, I may not get the form in time if you mail on Thursday.

I will also put in an autographed disc from "Steady" Ed Headrick for the silent auction.


UPS guy just delivered the sponsorship stuff from Tony and Kat Bender, and from Twisted Flyer. The added merch pile is growing :)

At Tony's request, a few of the items he sent will be used in the Silent Auction. This is a good time to talk about that... right now we have a total of 5 lots in the Silent Auction. Here's what we have so far. You'll have to bid at the tournament :)

In no particular order...

2003 USDGC CE Roc - orange - (175g)

Innova RubberWood keeper/thrower set (1 lot, 3 discs)
- Japan Open RW Roc - keeper - (156g)
- TitleDISC Mesquite Open RW Aviar - thrower - (175g)
- TitleDISC Mesquite Open RW Roc - thrower - (180g)

2008 USDGC Aviar, signed by Nate Doss - white - (175g)

Piney Woods 4-6 Discraft set - (1 lot, 3 discs)
- 2007 Piney Woods IV ColorMax Z Surge (172g)
- 2008 Piney Woods V FullColor Buzzz (178g)
- 2009 Piney Woods VI ColorMax Z Stalker (175g)

Twisted Tour Set - (1 lot, 4 items)
- 2009 Twisted Tour DX Roc - white (178g)
- 2009 Twisted Tour Star Max - yellow (175g)
- Twisted Flyer Visor - black / silver / yellow

More stuff is being added over the coming week. If you'd like to contribute something to the silent auction, please email me a description (josh@titledisc.com) and bring it to the tournament :). 100% of all money taken in from the silent auction goes straight to the CMN!

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I once played a round of disc golf with "Steady" Ed. It was unexpected and a lot of fun. A new course had just been put in, in Bakersfield, Ca. and the local club was running a small event. "Steady" Ed came over to christen the new course. He was full of info about why discs did this or that. I can remember at one point during the round I threw from on top of a hill down to a basket. The disc flipped and with the great winds of California I ended up throwing further than I have ever thrown before. The disc went over a baseball field and ended up being further from the basket than when I started. I believe the disc flew over 700 feet. Ed then explained why the disc did what it did. It was a blast.

At the end of the round, Ed called me over to his car and handed me a disc that he had just signed. I am not a big memorabilia fan, so I want this disc to go to someone that would keep care of it. It has never been thrown, but there is a small amount of the signature that was accidentally rubbed off. It is still in great shape.
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More stuff to add to the silent auction!

SueMac has offered up two items, You all see the one Jerry discussed above :), and Jay and Des Reading are going to throw in some stuff from Yeti Disc! Entries are still coming in, just kinda slowly. Remember - if you're planning to attend but just haven't registered yet... getting your name on the list will help boost attendance, which in turn boosts payouts, etc. Pre-registering also helps the entire tournament run more smoothly. The more work I can do *before* the morning of hte event, the better off we all are. Hole assignments, pool balancing, ratings/age/current verification... etc. etc. etc. If I can have all of that done Friday night, then Saturday morning is a breeze :). If I have to do a lot of that on Saturday morning, everything becomes way more hectic. In light of that... here's an additional motivator:

Two of the Inncolor Star Makos have been set aside as rewards for those who pre-register. I will pick two names at random to receive one of these awesome discs absolutely free. The first name will be selected from the pool of players who pre-registered, regardless of method. That includes everyone who mails in a check, signs up on Titledisc.com, or pays in person *before Saturday*. The second name will come from a pool of *just those who signed up using TitleDISC.com*. This means that if you used TitleDISC.com to register, your name gets two shots at a free Inncolor Star Mako!

See you all in a few days :)

Just a local rumor, but my understanding is that a top notch open player was spotted on the Lindsey courses today. His initials are NL and he owns a championship or two this year...... this is of course no indication he will be playing the tournament, but rumors are that he will.

"Just a local rumor, but my understanding is that a top notch open player was spotted on the Lindsey courses today. His initials are NL and he owns a championship or two this year...... this is of course no indication he will be playing the tournament, but rumors are that he will."

He was at Crowley Saturday. Chances are good.

btw- Does anyone know if their cooking lunch again this year?

Britt - I'm not sure if Jerry made arrangements to have lunch provided or not, so I'll let him comment on that.

If anyone needs help getting to the course, here's a google maps link:

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=CSUPzLuoxdM-FRyk7QEdOtJR-inj-aseBcxJhjEccHdxfVwoPg&q=Tyler+Sports+Complex+Tyler,+TX&sll=32.310847,-95.374568&sspn=0.005295,0.011523&ie=UTF8&hq=Tyler+Sports+Complex&hnear=Tyler+Sports+Complex,+Tyler,+TX+75709&ll=32.310657,-95.377797&spn=0.005295,0.011523&t=h&z=17&iwloc=A

You can also search "Tyler Sports Complex" (not the "indoor" one - that's a half mile away) or "Lindsey Park". There are two parking lots. HQ and vendor area will be up on the hill and easily accessible from both parking lots.

Another announcement:

Lawrence Nance (Onion Field Disc Golf) has decided to donate big again this year! $150 merch and $150 cash, with the added merch being earmarked specifically for the Old Man Baggers... er, Advanced Masters division :). Thanks, Lawrence!

We're at about 85 players so far and the list keeps growing every day. less than 4 days till we roll out to Tyler!

I had a volunteer, but I have not heard from them lately. I left a message last week and do not have a reply yet. I will track them down today and post on lunch status.


btw- Does anyone know if their cooking lunch again this year?

A note on vending space - we are shooting for a high-quality fly-mart type atmosphere this year, and we're just about full. We have 6 vendors on the list from all over the country! It's going to be a great selection of gear for players to shop. If you want to be a vendor at this year's tournament, you *must* contact me ASAP to see if we can fit you in. There is only so much room.

Right now, this is the list of approved vendors:

TitleDISC
Onion Field Disc Golf
Susan Macaluso
Yeti Disc
LS Discs
plus, a table for the CMN if they choose to use it :)

We will have a table in that mix for tournament fundraisers, too. There is going to be plenty to choose from!

Speaking of spaces filling up, the A-tier is almost half full as of this posting, and more are coming in as I speak. I know that lots of people are planning to sign up on Friday... at the risk of sounding like a broken record - please sign up as early as you can :). Tournament registration has a habit of ramping up very quickly in the last week before an event, and this one is proving to be no exception. We have several top-notch pro players on the list already, including a world champ! The caliber of players attending plus the USDGC/USADGC implications... not to mention the huge payouts and awesome staff... this is going to be EPIC. Please dont' get left out :)

3 days!

Josh, will you be at the course taking registrations (if avaliable)
friday morning?

I found this on last years thread:

Ladies and gentlemen,

If you wish to camp the best place is at Tyler State Park see http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/spdest/f...t/parks/tyler/ for info. It is a great park. Maps of the park can be found at http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/publicat...p4508_039d.pdf Costs are as follows:

Camping:
Maximum 8 people per campsite unless otherwise noted. Applicable daily entrance fees are charged in addition to the campsite or facility fee.

37 - Tent campsites with water:
$12 per night

20 - Campsites with electric and water hook-ups:
$16 per night (Cedar Point Area)

57 - Campsites with sewer, electric and water hook-ups:
$18 per night (Big Pine - RV only - no tents)
$20 per night for Premium Multi-use (tents allowed) in the Lake View Area

35 - Screened shelters - 6 of these sites are adjacent to the Group Dining Hall

Jerry without scrolling back through the pages what levels of sponsorer ship is offered?

Doubles on Friday @ Dogwood? Flip up or Bring your own? What time?

usually always BYOP dubs on friday prior to tournament.

re: doubles: We will have doubles from 1:30pm-5:00pm flex-start BYOP. We will let people start early if we are there and ready to go, but our schedule for that morning depends heavily on traffic and a couple of other variables. We're shooting to be there by noon, but we'll see :). Doubles will be on the Cedar course, from the long tees. Dogwood will be left open for warm-up and casual play. $30/team for pro teams, $20/team for ams. Pro payout in cash, am payout in merch.

@kyle: We should be at the course friday to take registrations, but it likely won't be until after noon.

@edman: It's too late to get on the t-shirts, but we can still get you into the program if we have your info today. Jerry should be able to provide the levels, but I think everyone so far has given at least $100.

but the Advanced divsions are well over half way filled. If you are an advanced or Adv master player and you wait, things may get tight. Just a heads up.

I play ADV and won't know a soul down there. Who wants a partner from Memphis for doubles?

Robby~*~

jerry or Josh send me an email at Chris_ware@dell.com and I will send you our logo. I believe we will do at least $50 merch and $50 cash for piney woods pro am

Thanks, already got it. And thanks to the club!!


jerry or Josh send me an email at Chris_ware@dell.com and I will send you our logo. I believe we will do at least $50 merch and $50 cash for piney woods pro am

Last year at this time I would have had to close registration to Advanced and Open divisions. Thank the Lord for that third course!!!

Ay Josh did you get my mails ? I dont want to be left out of the advanced field if it fills soon :D

"Just a local rumor, but my understanding is that a top notch open player was spotted on the Lindsey courses today. His initials are NL and he owns a championship or two this year...... this is of course no indication he will be playing the tournament, but rumors are that he will."

He was at Crowley Saturday. Chances are good.

Yes Nikko's playing in this event,,, I think he already played 3 rounds on monday at piney with Bradley Williams!
He said he liked the course A LOT and heard 3 courses were being used for the event.
Is this true??

There will be three courses. The Dogwood, which is our new Gold Standard course will also have alternate pins on the second day for 12 of the holes. As I figure it the short pins on Dogwood will yield a par 58 and the long pins will result in a par 62.


Yes Nikko's playing in this event,,, I think he already played 3 rounds on monday at piney with Bradley Williams!
He said he liked the course A LOT and heard 3 courses were being used for the event.
Is this true??

Timmy, I got your messages and I'll get you moved over tonight :)

Yes Nikko's playing in this event,,, I think he already played 3 rounds on monday at piney with Bradley Williams!
He said he liked the course A LOT and heard 3 courses were being used for the event.
Is this true??

When is Nikko going to register? Spots are filling up fast :)

Okay, due to the shortness of day on Saturday and with much discussion between club members the follow is the final format that will be played:





Saturday Morning:

Pro - Dogwood SHORT pins

Adv - Red Long tees, long pins

Int/Rec - Tier Blue Long tees, long pins

Saturday Afternoon:

Pro - Red Long Tees, long pins
Adv - Dogwood SHORT pins
Int/Rec - BLUE short tees, long pins
Sunday Morning:

Pro - Blue longs
Adv - Dogwood long pins
Int/Rec - Red long tees, long pins
Sunday Afternoon:

Pro - Dogwood long pins
Adv - Blue longs
Int/Rec - Red short tees, long pins

With the entrys that I have picked up via mail and locally and the club entrys I will be receiving tonight, the Int/Rec/Jr's pool is over two thirds full.

The advanced field is over half way filled and the open field is nearing half way. Today I know of several people that will be signing up to push us past half way in every pool.

and have you seen the weather......:)

Saturday, Dec 12
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High: 62 �F RealFeel�: 62 �F
Warmer with times of sun and clouds



Saturday Night, Dec 12
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Low: 46 �F RealFeel�: 42 �F
Plenty of clouds


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Stargazing conditions (http://www.accuweather.com/astronomy.asp?partner=accuweather&traveler=1&zipChg=1)



Sunday, Dec 13
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High: 67 �F RealFeel�: 66 �F
Partly sunny



Sunday Night, Dec 13
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Low: 50 �F RealFeel�: 45 �F
Mild with increasing cloudiness

For those of you coming into town Friday, Tyler Parks and Rec will be making snow for snow tubing and play area and entertainment in the ampitheater. Enjoy shopping and a free Christmas movie shown on the evening!

Located in Bergfeld Park at S. Broadway and 4th Street.

Okay, due to the shortness of day on Saturday and with much discussion between club members the follow is the final format that will be played:


Saturday Morning:

Pro - Dogwood SHORT pins

Adv - Red Long tees, long pins

Int/Rec - Tier Blue Long tees, long pins

Saturday Afternoon:

Pro - Red Long Tees, long pins
Adv - Dogwood SHORT pins
Int/Rec - BLUE short tees, long pins
Sunday Morning:

Pro - Blue longs
Adv - Dogwood long pins
Int/Rec - Blue long tees, long pins
Sunday Afternoon:

Pro - Dogwood short pins
Adv - Blue longs
Int/Rec - Red short tees, long pins


Jerry, are you saying pro & int/rec both play blue long on Sunday morning or was that just a typo?

Thanks, my mistake. Int/Rec will be on Cedar (red) course long on Sunday morning. Pro will be on Hickory (Blue).


Jerry, are you saying pro & int/rec both play blue long on Sunday morning or was that just a typo?

I'm working on getting the hand-in entries that Jerry sent me added. The number of spots left is about to shrink :)

OK, as of right now, we have 32 spots left in the B-tier (Int/Rec/Jr), 22 spots in the Adv pool, and 37 spots in the Pro pool. The doors are closing fast... get signed up ASAP!

Jerry, I hope and pray that all goes well with your family situation this weekend. Let me know if there is any way I can help. I will not be able to be at the tournament because I am going to be one of the Magi Saturday night.

When does online registration end?

online registration will end on a per-pool basis as they fill, or at about 10pm Friday night.

update: just 25 spots left in the B-Tier (Int/Rec/Jr), 29 spots in the A-tier Pro pool, and 19 spots in the A-tier Am pool. If we were only on two courses (like last year), we'd *already* be full! And that doesn't include any registrations taken in person by Jerry at tonight's Tyler mini.

I think the B-tier will probably be full tomorrow, and the A-tier on Friday. *If* there are still spots available Saturday morning, we will try to fill those spots very early, but we will set the players list about 30 minutes before the players meeting.

I can't believe it's almost time for Tyler :)

Wow. Full/full would be 216 players for a December tournament. Looks like we need to build another course in Tyler.

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Matt Hall Sign Up

Is there any kind of dress code for this event? I've been to an A-tier with a dress code before... Just checking...

Tank top and flip flops shoud be good! :D

Well, this is filling out nicely. I have 2 more advanced added last night and another Int, at the mini. This leaves 39 spots left in the A Tier and 22 spots left in the B Tier. This beats last years registeration already and we have two days left.

Current weather is calling for it to be a little cooler on Saturday, in the mid 50's and 70! on Sunday. Wind is predicted to be light and disc golfing should be heavy.

Two more days!!


I'm working on getting the hand-in entries that Jerry sent me added. The number of spots left is about to shrink :)

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Please note, 3B, 15B and 16B do not exist anymore......
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For an A or B tier event you must, at a minimum wear a shirt and shoes or sandals (I am assuming pants or skirt if you are so bold, but it does not say that in the competition manual). For an A tier it is suggested that you wear a collared shirt, or high performance type of shirt, but this decision lies solely with the TD. I personnally only wear collared golf shirts, however as long as you are dressed with some decorum I don't see a problem with a teeshirt. This is mainly because the event is mixed with a B Tier as well and most, if not all of the B Tier group will be wearing tees. This would make it difficult to police by the TD.

That is my ruling and I am sticking by it.


Is there any kind of dress code for this event? I've been to an A-tier with a dress code before... Just checking...

Is there any kind of dress code for this event? I've been to an A-tier with a dress code before... Just checking...

For guys, cutoff shorts with a cutoff t-shirt that hangs just below your man-b00bs and just above your budweiser tumor are STRICTLY FORBIDDEN (Timmy!).

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pretty funny:D


For guys, cutoff shorts with a cutoff t-shirt that hangs just below your man-b00bs and just above your budweiser tumor are STRICTLY FORBIDDEN (Timmy!).

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lol I think Ill be there in style in a collered :D

It must still cover your gut.


lol I think Ill be there in style with me a collered :D

The precise number of spots available at this point are:

18 in the B-tier (Int/Rec/Jr)
25 in the A-Tier Pro pool
11 in the A-tier Adv. pool

leaving for Tyler in the AM!

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Jerry, are there really two pin locations on Dogwood 14 now? Your diagram shows it, but I haven't seen it yet. Is the old pin that we have played forever the long or short pin?

Just throw your thumber in that direction

14 has another pin that is a little further down the trail. Not much, but it will make the flick shot pratically impossible and the thumber the only bird shot. Since I don't throw a thumber it hurt me, but a little bit on the course for every kind of throw.


Jerry, are there really two pin locations on Dogwood 14 now? Your diagram shows it, but I haven't seen it yet. Is the old pin that we have played forever the long or short pin?

Matt Hall Sign Up

I am leaving right now for Tyler and will hopefully be able to sign up tomorrow at the course.

Are there any course maps at the course, and will they be available Friday?

Ok so I tried to sign up wiot my CC but it won't let me since I had used my mom's paypal before and its instead trying to make me use it again although I have no clue what the # of the card is.

Anyway I tried and will be out there early tomorrow trying to give my money to someone.

There will be course maps and they will be available Friday, once Josh gets there. They are included in the program, which everyone needs to get and hold on to. Also if you look over the provious page of posts I have posted the maps online here as well.


Are there any course maps at the course, and will they be available Friday?

If anyone has Matt's cell phone number, please PM to me. Thanks.


Ok so I tried to sign up wiot my CC but it won't let me since I had used my mom's paypal before and its instead trying to make me use it again although I have no clue what the # of the card is.

Anyway I tried and will be out there early tomorrow trying to give my money to someone.

Hints for the new to Dogwood, pay attention now....

1 Short is pretty obvious and if you cannot figure it out when you see it, then the rest of this will not help
1 Long, two routes, straight down the gut will probably get you a 3, if you have a good arm and wind is out of the East a big hyzer could go up and over and put you in place for an Eagle (2)

2 Short/long the smart/safe shot is to throw down the middle and put your up shot over for a par. The shot I take is an anhyzer tight to the tree line. A quick turn puts you on top of the short pin, a softer turn can ace the long pin. I have hit chains on the long pin. Oh yeah, there is water all around the front and right side of the pins and should you hit a tree short.

3 Short/Long you might as well face it, you are not going to get a 2 on this hole. There are three excellent tips for this hole, fairway, fairway, fairway. You can get a 3 short/long, but you are more likely to be lucky to get a 4. Short is a par 4, long is a par 5.

4 only one setting. Do NOT think you can throw a hyzer. The odds are you will fall short in schule. Your best bet is to throw a gentle ani. To tight you will hit the tree line, to long you cross the fairway into another tree line. Once you make the turn there is a tight fairway to the hole. You would do well to get a 3 on this hole.

5 Short throw down the middle of the fairway and you should get a 2. You probably won't, but what the heck you should try. Long is the slight ani, but you don't want to swing it too wide. Both long and short are 2 able, but tough.

6 Short is straight up the gut and aceable. But with the low branches and tight fairway many are daunted. There is a deep creek halfway down the fairway. If you go in, it is a tough comeback. Long, I don't have a clue. I have yet to play it, maybe a disc above the trees that falls back right at the tail. To far right and you go down into the creek.

7 only has one pin and the shot is pretty much straight with a slight ani on one side of trees in the fairway or straight with very little fall off to the left on the other side of the trees. Tight fairway.

8 is one of my favorite holes. Short there are two routes, a light turn over shot or flick down the right side fairway. Tight fairway. I prefer a big ani over the top of the schule on the left of the fairway. Both shots can yield a 2. In the long pin you can throw a hyzer down the right side and get close for a bird, but usually you are out 50+ feet. I prefer a light ani over the top that drops back to the left. This is a blind hole, as are several of the other holes, but with the right ani, I believe it is aceable.

9 one pin, down the middle the hole plays longer than it appears. Best shot is straight with a slight turn over. Roc or sidewinder is probably best.

10 one pin, another great hole. There is an island in the middle of the fairway. You want to be past that island slightly to the left. Either go staight up the left side or past it and hyzer back on the right side. par 4, you can net a 3.

11 Short or long, do not be daunted by the tight fairway, down the gut slightly to the right. Should work for either.

12 Short, you can see the basket, it is a long hole, but possibly 2 able with the right throw. You have to miss the schule. Long is another matter altogether. Placement is cirtical to get a 3 on the long hole. Down the middle to the right is your best bet. After your drive a big left hand turn is required.

13 Short, is long and hard straight and to the left, 2 able. Long is longer and harder. Placement is best on the left hand side fo the fairway, though righthand side will work with a turnover mid range. 3 will bird this par 4 hole.

14 This hole is a short, but tight transition hole. The best shot, in my opinion is a tall thumber. You can also get to the short hole with a turnover or flick, but it is hard. A practice thimber will get a 2 almost everytime. Long is even more of a turn to the right.

15 Short is a gentle turnover, long is a gentle hyzer. You can get a 2, there will be many 4's

16 Easy straight shot falling back to the left at the end. If you don't get a 2, you probably lost a stroke. Don't ignore the tree to the right, that one will cast many a disc short and to the left.

17 Long and hard. You can eagle with an unbelievable turnover shot that comes back at the end. For most mortals, it is better to play above the trees in the fairway to the left or below the trees to the right. Then you have to make a tunnel shot to get close to the basket. There may be a 2, but par is 4. Expect to see scores mainly in the 4 to 6 range.

18 Short and long will be birdied by the long arms. It is not a super long hole, but it plays uphill making it feel longer. Short is a slight ani, long is straight up. Beware the grave yard, this is OB,.

The adv side of the A-tier only has 9 spots left - it should be the first to fill. only 17 spots left in all of the B-tier. The Pro pool still has some breathing room at 23 spots.

This is an important note: Until registration is closed, these are the pool layouts. In the *very* unlikely event that we do not fill to 100% capacity, I will balance the A-tier pools to make things play a bit more quickly. This *does not* mean that we will open up more spots in any one pool, it just means that if the pools are not balanced, I will balance them.

Of course... if you pay attention at the players meeting Saturday morning, it won't be an issue :)

Let me restate - once a pool is full, it is full. No exceptions will be made. If you wait too long and don't get a spot in Advanced, you can always move up, play pro, and take merch to retain your Am status.

Another restatement - If you are signed up for the A-tier and you are not a current PDGA membership, you *must* renew (or start) your PDGA membership before the tournament begins. I will be checking everyone against the PDGA's master list, and I will not give hole assignments to non-members until they are renewed. This applies only to the A-tier (Adv. and Pro divisions).

Jerry, is 15B the hole with really large backup? If so, thanks to whomever killed it.

15 and 16 both have backup issues. 15B was the longer position, so playing to the A pin should mean less of a backup there, but 16 will still generate some lag time. 16B also played a bit harder than 16A, so some of the backup should go away there, too. I think there will still be some backup issues on 16 though... so I'm going to do my best to start the slower groups on that part of the course.

Jerry, is 15B the hole with really large backup? If so, thanks to whomever killed it.

15B was one of the biggest backup spots on the the red (Cedars) course. That basket is now 3 short on the Dogwood course, so it wasn't really killed, but rather re-purposed.

It will be interesting to see how the new Dogwood plays in a tournament. I think there will be significant backup on hole 3, but other than that, I think most of the holes will play well.

I just got done with a truncated round on Dogwood. Sheesh, some of those holes just frustrate me to death, and I have played them dozens of times.

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Yes it is the one. That basket in now Dogwood 1 long.

Jerry, is 15B the hole with really large backup? If so, thanks to whomever killed it.

Yes it is the one. That basket in now Dogwood 1 long.

My bad. I was thinking of 16b from previous years.

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UPDATED:

12 in the B-Tier (Int/Rec/Jr)
22 in the A-Tier Pro Pool
10 in the A-Tier Adv. Pool

The precise number of spots available at this point are:

18 in the B-tier (Int/Rec/Jr)
25 in the A-Tier Pro pool
11 in the A-tier Adv. pool

leaving for Tyler in the AM!

Jerry your stayng up all night to keep us posted right ? lol Just kidding , doug cant make up his mind if he's going to play , so he's taking a chance on waiting till tommorrow .

I have in my grubby little hands 5 qualification forms for the USDGC. Who will they go to?? Qualifications are based strictly on score, so you can guess from all pro and advanced divisions.

Here is a list that cannot be choosen from, as they are already qualified:

Top 20 - 2009 United States Championship
Nikko Locastro Brad Hammock
Dave Feldberg Ken Climo
Josh Anthon Michael Johansen
Nate Doss Dion Arlyn
Cale Leiviska Greg Barsby
Phil Arthur Steve Rico
Paul Ulibarri Zeggy Bierekoven
Barry Schultz Garrett Gurthie
Jussi Meresmaa Will Schusterick
Avery Jenkins Devan Owens
Derek Billings
Former United States Champions
Ken Climo Dave Feldberg
Barry Schultz Nate Doss
Nikko Locastro
Former Open Division World Champions
Ken Climo Gregg Hosfeld
Cameron Todd Johnny Sias
Ron Russell Sam Ferrans
Steve Wisecup Jeff Watson
John Ahart Harold Duvall
Barry Schultz Nathan Doss
Dave Feldberg Avery Jenkins

A question was asked of me earlier today. Josh stated that there would be doubles for Advanced and Open. There will also be one for Intermediate players.

UPDATED:

12 in the B-Tier (Int/Rec/Jr)
22 in the A-Tier Pro Pool
10 in the A-Tier Adv. Pool
UPDATED AGAIN :D
8 in the B-Tier (Int/Rec/Jr)
21 in the A-tier Pro pool
9 in the A-tier Adv. Pool

We will probably have a couple of mixed-division cards in the B-tier to fit everyone into 4-player cards.

Jerry

Since I won't be able to make it there to support your great event, I'm sending merchandise sponsorship to you via the Sowerby's.

Ya'll have lots of fun,
Ray:cool:

Good LUCK to all the ROUND ROCKERS in Tyler

JR Ramirez and Bucky Garrett for 2 of the spots


I have in my grubby little hands 5 qualification forms for the USDGC. Who will they go to?? Qualifications are based strictly on score, so you can guess from all pro and advanced divisions.

Here is a list that cannot be choosen from, as they are already qualified:

Top 20 - 2009 United States Championship
Nikko Locastro Brad Hammock
Dave Feldberg Ken Climo
Josh Anthon Michael Johansen
Nate Doss Dion Arlyn
Cale Leiviska Greg Barsby
Phil Arthur Steve Rico
Paul Ulibarri Zeggy Bierekoven
Barry Schultz Garrett Gurthie
Jussi Meresmaa Will Schusterick
Avery Jenkins Devan Owens
Derek Billings
Former United States Champions
Ken Climo Dave Feldberg
Barry Schultz Nate Doss
Nikko Locastro
Former Open Division World Champions
Ken Climo Gregg Hosfeld
Cameron Todd Johnny Sias
Ron Russell Sam Ferrans
Steve Wisecup Jeff Watson
John Ahart Harold Duvall
Barry Schultz Nathan Doss
Dave Feldberg Avery Jenkins

What time is players meeting?

Player's meeting (as posted on TitleDISC.com ;) ) is at 9:00. Get there early to secure your parking spot!

I have a few more registrations to enter, but as of no, we have only two available spots in the B-tier. I will post the exact numbers tonight, but online registration is now closed. The remaining spots will be sold in-person, first-come-first-served.

We also had 24 doubles teams come play tonight, 4 of which finished in the dark :). I'll post those results tonight as well... but first the wife and I are going to go eat some dinner :D

As of now we have:

18 spots available in the A-Tier Pro pool
6 spots available in the A-Tier Am Pool
2 spots available in the B-Tier

That means we have 190 players in total, so far! I've decided to leave the A-tier open for another hour or so, just in case someone wants to save me some headache in the morning :). Doubles results are next.

Correction - 28 teams played doubles... but one card (two Int. teams) was not turned in. Here are the results:

Open - $180
42 Matt H / Brad W $110
43 Chris F / Mike $70
48 JJ / Buckwild
49 Mike / Ken
50 Matt R / Vinnie
61 Lew S / Casey

Adv - $200
49 Chris / Tim $80
50 Kyle / River $60
50 Jeremy / Derek $40
50 Lawrence / David $20
51 Travis R / Aerron
52 Nathan / Mark
52 Jack / Parker
54 Robert / David
55 Brett / Shannon
56 Mike / Neal

Int - $240
49 Paul O / Clint $70
49 Larry / Eric $70
52 Ron / Brad $50
53 Jason / C Walls $30
54 Thomas / Grayson $10
54 Hadder / Duane $10
55 Chrystom / Pete
55 John S / Travis
58 Scott / Rafell
60 Cody / Danny
?? Donna / Ray
?? Tyler T / Jason G

Player's meeting 9:00am sharp!

Ray,

Thanks and maybe next time.

Jerry

Since I won't be able to make it there to support your great event, I'm sending merchandise sponsorship to you via the Sowerby's.

Ya'll have lots of fun,
Ray:cool:

JJ "I hate doubles" played doubles? :)

Wow... what a day. We had rain, we had (lots and lots and lots of) drama, and we still *almost* finished in the daylight. Tomorrow morning, one card will finish the last hole of their second round at 7:30. This should put us at an 8:15 tee-off.

Scores are about to be tabulated, and I'll get them posted ASAP. Stay tuned :)

Results???
Heard Nikko was Winning Jay reading was in 2nd,,, anything else???

Stay tuned

Still tuned

they are up

sorry for the delay, had to get a few issues worked out. scores are now posted. Keep in mind that the MM1 division still has one card with 1 hole left to play. I put them in as 222 scores, just to get it posted... but that one will change tomorrow.

Pro/Adv: http://www.pdga.com/tournament-results?TournID=9473&year=2009&include_ratings=1#Open

Int/Rec/Jr: http://www.pdga.com/tournament-results?TournID=9474&year=2009&include_ratings=1#Intermediate

123 players in the A-tier
72 in the B-tier (full)

195 ain't half bad :)

A couple of notes on the drama before too much more speculation happens...

#1 - if your score is turned in incorrectly, it is your fault. Each player has a responsibility to ensure that the score being tuned in on their scorecard is accurate. It doesn't matter if I've known you for 10 years or 10 minutes. It doesn't matter if you're a top pro or a brand-new novice. Rules is rules.

#2 - If there is even the slightest question about a rule or a lie, ALWAYS play a provisional! If you are on a card and do not agree with a player's lie, ask them to take a provisional. If they refuse, and you do not agree with that refusal, find an official immediately. If that's not an option, REPORT IT as soon as you can. Certainly before you turn in the card.

#3 - If there is *any* reason that the scores being turned in by your group can be considered questionable, bring it to the attention of the scoring officials at that time.

#4 - know the rulebook. USE the rulebook. If you want to plead a case with a busy TD, do it using the rules. Every TD I know follows the rules as closely as humanly possible. If they are deviating from the rules, chances are that they do not know it - bring it to their attention by showing them the appropriate rule.

#5 - if you don't agree with a TD's decision, appeal it with the Tour Manager. Making a scene and taking up 30 minutes of a TD's time to argue a ruling is never productive. TDs do not have a vested interest in one person's score or another's. Our job is to rule correctly, and we do everything we can to make that happen. We're human and can make mistakes. I am confident in the rulings I made today, but if I'm wrong, I want to know it, and I want to make it right.

We had to deal with far too much drama today, and that should not be necessary. I consulted with our state coordinator / PDGA Marshal before ruling on two issues, and I had the sage advice of another long-time pro (and fellow TD) for another two. Every possible effort was made to make the appropriate calls. I heard every side of every story, I went above and beyond what is required in order to ensure that I made the correct ruling in each case.

ANYWAY... tomorrow promises better weather! plus, we're starting earlier so hopefully we will have smooth sailing. Here's to a better day of golf :)

Is it true that the actual TD was not in attendance?

And putting the player down for arguing his case...that is a lame TD move.

Drama is part of running a tournament. It is how the TD handles any and all issues that is important.

If I would have been you I would have called Dave Gentry immediately if I had an issue on the lead card of the pro division at an A Tier.

His number is 706-564-0407.

Not trying to cut anyone down here, but your previous post made it seem like a player is in the wrong for arguing his case, and then you turn right around and say that if there is any question about anything that it should be addressed immediately. Contradictory? You bet it is.

Hope all turns out well for you and your tournament, wish I could have made it down but work, work, work.

Again not trying to add any drama to your table, but your post just tickled at my brain till I had to respond.

Pay no heed to the critisizm of your actions. Most people that try to tell you the proper way to function have never put themselves in that position. I called long distance one year at the VPO over a matter with the leading pros and a call that involves about $400. The commisioner didn't appreciate being put on the spot to make a call without being here to get all the feed back he could. If your call was absolutely terrible then the committee will let you know, but they do appreciate your contribution to the sport and will show you proper respect. If it wasn't terrible and you can show why you did what you did, then they'll back you up. Keep up the hard work. Brian Mace can tell you all about being unappreciated.

P.S. You realize now that we're all wondering what the fuss was about.

Thanks for the kind words, skip. You know what it's like to be on this side of the table. It's fun and rewarding 80-90% of the time, but the other 10-20% is what makes us all grow old quickly :)

Mr. Treat, I see what you mean... but the point I was trying to make is that once your point of view has been heard and a decision has been made, the appropriate next step is to appeal it. I would never expect a player to accept a call he does not agree with immediately, but there is a point at which the argument becomes futile. In this case it was a of of back-and-forth on a few very simple issues for which guidelines are pretty clearly defined. I was not putting anyone down, I didn't even mention any names. In fact, the only player who could read that as me putting him down... was all smiles today and thanked me for doing a great job. That gained a lot of respect from me and he knows who he is... thanks man.

To be fair, I was low on sleep last night and extremely frustrated. My post might not have had as much tact as it should have... but I think if you *had* been there, you would have agreed that I handled the situation appropriately. So sayeth many people who were actually there.

Oh, and the actual TD was in attendance. I am the "actual" TD for 2009. I relieved Jerry of the responsibility this year only, so that he could focus on his personal life. He was able to come out today and help wrap things up. He will be back next year and if he'll have me I'll be honored to help out again in whatever capacity he needs. This is a great event that Jerry and the Rose City Disc Club organized. I was honored to be a part of it.

Back to the matter at hand! While it's true that this tournament was not without its hiccups, overall the feeling was extremely positive and I think everyone had a great time. We had world-class players in attendance, and the competition was fierce. Nikko walked away with yet another big win and $800 in his pocket... at least for a few minutes :). I'm happy to say that he spent a chunk of that hard-earned money in our silent auction! Several other players joined him, dug deep, and gave to a great cause. Every cent raised from that auction will go straight to the charity. Des E.D.G.E.d out the other ladies (see what I did there? ;)) for another win, while the Yeti took second place and a USDGC qualification! Vinnie came back from a 4-stroke deficit to win Masters by 2. Skeeter snagged another GM win, and Local Hero Mark Nolan took Advanced (his Wife Jenn also won Rec Women). More details as soon as I can get them posted.

Again, this was a stressful yet very positive experience for me. I'm happy to have put in the work - the reward is so worth it. Just being able to help 195 people have a fun time this weekend in Tyler quickly wipes away any frustration :)

A-Tier scores posted: http://www.pdga.com/tournament-results?TournID=9473&year=2009&include_ratings=1#Open

and the B-Tier: http://www.pdga.com/tournament-results?TournID=9474&year=2009&include_ratings=1#Intermediate

After the 1st round on sunday of gold course I could barely go , I managed to muster up enough energy to see If I could finish , the blue course was a piece of cake after a round of dogwood ! Cant thank you enough Josh and RCDC , congrats Mike for winning advanced masters

After the 1st round on sunday of gold course I could barely go , I managed to muster up enough energy to see If I could finish , the blue course was a piece of cake after a round of dogwood ! Cant thank you enough Josh and RCDC , congrats Mike for winning advanced masters

Thanks Tim, and we also need to say thanks to those behind the scenes people who made things work out, like David Jones and his lovely wife, Kyle and several others, some of who's rounds were negatively effected because they had so many things to focus on other than golf.

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As Jerry mentioned at the awards ceremony (as I prompted him from behind the table), we really want to make the Dogwood course something special that people look forward to coming to Tyler to play. We know that there is a fine line between 'fun hard' and 'stupid hard'. We would like to get a bunch of comments about the course layout and things that maybe could be done to improve it. We are not only looking for CONSTRUCTIVE criticism, but your positive comments as well. Here are some discussion points.

1. Hole layout (fairways pin positions)
2. Obstacles (mostly trees)
3. OB lines (or lack thereof)
4. Terrain (yes, 3 was a sloppy mess)
5. Backups experienced (other than the Advanced card following the lead Advanced masters card. I know we played SLOW)
6. Time and daylight. (we played Dogwood 11 and 12 in the pitch dark)

We at the RCDC are serious about making Tyler a major destination for Texas disc golf and look forward to your feedback!

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First I want to thank everyone who attended and ask for your forgiveness for not being able to run the event myself. There are several things that are very important in my life and God and Family are at the top. I will not go into detail about what my family crisis is about, but most of the players at the event heard part of it. In my mind, I either canceled the event or I turned it over to someone I trusted. Josh and Deidre did a great job. They came over and talked through how I would run the event and they performed excellently. They introduced several things, such as the Fly Mart, that I had not thought to do. Yes there were some things different, but nothing that I have problems with and several things I plan on using in the future.

I was to be the TD. I answered calls about the tournament, got all the sponsorship money together, got the park booked, got all the score cards made, provided 230 full colored programs, did the art work and got the trophies together (with help). Worked with the club to get a full new 18 hole course in, cleaned up the new course, painted signage, etc, etc, etc...... and I posted very early on that I would not be able to make Friday or Saturday. I also posted very early on that Joshua Dann would be running the event or the option was to cancel. I wish I could have been there the whole time, but Josh did a great job. I will be running the event next year and with Josh's assistance I now realize that this event has grown too big to be run in the same way I have run it in the past. The following will be changed for next year:

Registration will be closed after Friday evening. This will allow me to have everything ready first thing Saturday morning. With the addition of a kick a$& new course that takes time to play, this event must start earlier. Next year the player's meeting will start at 8:00 AM and tee off will be at 8:45. This extra hour is essential to allow everyone to finish with plenty of light. I apologize for the timing and the completion of the second round. I could not have anticipated the rain all day and the loss of sunlight, due to the clouds. Next year I will work hard to keep the rain away and assure fewer clouds.:p

I plan on getting a co-TD that can handle cards while I handle the rules calls. Everyone seems to think that rule calling is easy, but from years of experience the rules calls all seem to come at once and when they do, they take time from other needed items. Such as getting postings up. I am not complaining, you want to TD, these are some of the challenges that face you.

From now on, all players requesting a rules call will be required to show a clear understanding of the rule that is in question. That one will be hard for a lot of players, but I have rules books at the event, so I will ask that the player find the rule in question first. I believe that this may help take care of some problems without a rule being discussed. I understand that this may not work in all cases. I understand that some rules require a call and each case will require some looking into. However, I will ask the player to show me the rule from the book when possible. This requirement will be put to the PDGA as a petition and will be in the Sanctioning Agreement.

I want to thank each and every player for their patiences and hope that you come back next year for an even better event. Better, because each year the club works harder to make the tournament better. This is why six years ago it was a little B tier with 72 players and this past weekend it was an A Tier with three of the better courses in Texas located all in one park and nearly 3 times the size.

Good to see that y'all are serious about feedback on the Dogwood. I recommend either you or Jerry giving Olse a call. He knows what he is doing and has a lot of suggestions. Overall, he was very positive on the course and it's potential.

My comments. Overall, I really enjoyed it. Obvously, hole 2 will get some criticism and I think it is deserved. Sure, you can legitimately play for a 3 and it is somewhat fair, but going for a 2 is way too random. I think it is #6 long, but that is a sketchy pin position, and remove that small tree (on the line to the basket) on the short. My only other beef is #15 long. I did see Ron Silliman almost ace it, but the pin position is pretty ridiculous IMO. Oh yeah, the water behind 17 should not be OB as it is kind of dumb given the difficulty of the approach.

Enough criticism as I really did enjoy it a lot (seriously, it was a fun and very challenging course) and y'all should be proud. Lots of excellent holes. Overall, a very sweet course that might one day be a jewel.

Thanks James, I will try to contact Olse. Hole 6 was the last pin put in and was not "tested", we plan on going back and looking at it again. I am also expecting some comments on 14.


Good to see that y'all are serious about feedback on the Dogwood. I recommend either you or Jerry giving Olse a call. He knows what he is doing and has a lot of suggestions. Overall, he was very positive on the course and it's potential.

My comments. Overall, I really enjoyed it. Obvously, hole 2 will get some criticism and I think it is deserved. Sure, you can legitimately play for a 3 and it is somewhat fair, but going for a 2 is way too random. I think it is #6 long, but that is a sketchy pin position, and remove that small tree (on the line to the basket) on the short. My only other beef is #15 long. I did see Ron Silliman almost ace it, but the pin position is pretty ridiculous IMO. Oh yeah, the water behind 17 should not be OB as it is kind of dumb given the difficulty of the approach.

Enough criticism as I really did enjoy it a lot (seriously, it was a fun and very challenging course) and y'all should be proud. Lots of excellent holes. Overall, a very sweet course that might one day be a jewel.

Thanks for the kind words, skip. You know what it's like to be on this side of the table. It's fun and rewarding 80-90% of the time, but the other 10-20% is what makes us all grow old quickly :)

Mr. Treat, I see what you mean... but the point I was trying to make is that once your point of view has been heard and a decision has been made, the appropriate next step is to appeal it. I would never expect a player to accept a call he does not agree with immediately, but there is a point at which the argument becomes futile. In this case it was a of of back-and-forth on a few very simple issues for which guidelines are pretty clearly defined. I was not putting anyone down, I didn't even mention any names. In fact, the only player who could read that as me putting him down... was all smiles today and thanked me for doing a great job. That gained a lot of respect from me and he knows who he is... thanks man.

To be fair, I was low on sleep last night and extremely frustrated. My post might not have had as much tact as it should have... but I think if you *had* been there, you would have agreed that I handled the situation appropriately. So sayeth many people who were actually there.

Oh, and the actual TD was in attendance. I am the "actual" TD for 2009. I relieved Jerry of the responsibility this year only, so that he could focus on his personal life. He was able to come out today and help wrap things up. He will be back next year and if he'll have me I'll be honored to help out again in whatever capacity he needs. This is a great event that Jerry and the Rose City Disc Club organized. I was honored to be a part of it.

Back to the matter at hand! While it's true that this tournament was not without its hiccups, overall the feeling was extremely positive and I think everyone had a great time. We had world-class players in attendance, and the competition was fierce. Nikko walked away with yet another big win and $800 in his pocket... at least for a few minutes :). I'm happy to say that he spent a chunk of that hard-earned money in our silent auction! Several other players joined him, dug deep, and gave to a great cause. Every cent raised from that auction will go straight to the charity. Des E.D.G.E.d out the other ladies (see what I did there? ;)) for another win, while the Yeti took second place and a USDGC qualification! Vinnie came back from a 4-stroke deficit to win Masters by 2. Skeeter snagged another GM win, and Local Hero Mark Nolan took Advanced (his Wife Jenn also won Rec Women). More details as soon as I can get them posted.

Again, this was a stressful yet very positive experience for me. I'm happy to have put in the work - the reward is so worth it. Just being able to help 195 people have a fun time this weekend in Tyler quickly wipes away any frustration :)



Hey man, Good job this weekend and thanks for what you do.

I was there when you were dealing with a few of the questionable O.B. situations and from what I saw there wasn't really a better way to handle it.

Also, there was a bit of moaning about the time for a lunch break saturday and the way a few people approached you about it must have been frustrating...

One additional comment. I was amazed at the number of miss added scores. There were quite a few of them in most of the divisions. This is not aimed at anyone, it was just surprising. There was a fare amount of it across all divisions. As a matter of fact, the only ones I don't remember seeing it in was the Women's divisions and the juniors. I am guessing the juniors had help and the women are just smarter than the men :p

Jennifer will be glad that you think that way Jerry!

Death to the grave yard on hole 18 dogwood!

Mark ! Awesome playing !Congrats

I got ctp and got a large shirt , does anyone have a 2x or 3x they want to trade ? lol

I think since theres going to be names of winners on #18 , should make an open end (on the front ) fence , could use fence like they have in old graveyards , Creeeeeepy

NEVER, Muhahahaha (or next best imitation of a fiendish laugh you can find)


Death to the grave yard on hole 18 dogwood!

NEVER, Muhahahaha (or next best imitation of a fiendish laugh you can find)



The tree in the middle needs to be trimmed on the right side to make a real line to the long pin. This was one hole i didn't care for much.

roadrunner up the hill bends right and lies for a solid look at two.

Matt, are you referring to the tree in the middle of the graveyard or another?


The tree in the middle needs to be trimmed on the right side to make a real line to the long pin. This was one hole i didn't care for much.

Death to the grave yard on hole 18 dogwood!

I totally agree! I think the OB on Dogwood 18 is important and in my opinion even a bit too small, but the graveyard thing looks childish. I would rather see a brick or rock edging around the whole thing and then inside have a nice rock garden with some nasty looking plants and bull neddle.

Because of the height of the fence, my guess is that the fence stopped some shots that hit the inside of the fence, causing an OB, but it also stopped some shots that hit the outside of the fence landing the disc safe. To make the hole tougher, I would extend the OB toward the creek. The easy 3 on it is to sidearm around to the right side of the OB and then sidearm or thumber to the basket. With a bigger OB the player would either have to layup short of the OB and have a long upshot or try to throw over the OB and risk falling short.

Thanks James, I will try to contact Olse. Hole 6 was the last pin put in and was not "tested", we plan on going back and looking at it again. I am also expecting some comments on 14.

I think 6 long was great. I just busted out a ginormous thumber way to the left of everything and landed about 15 feet from the creek right across from the basket. Any chance of clearing some of the brush from my landing area over there so I have a clearer putt to the basket?

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Looking at the numbers shot on all the long holes for Dogwood, I have calculated the "average" shot and looked at the "peek" score. The peek is the top of a bell curve. It represents what the most likely score on the hole was. I took 21 representitive scores across the pro divisions. This includes the Open and Masters division. I did not take a look at any scores that totaled greater than 70. Here were my results. Some surprised me, others were what I expected.

Hole 1: Average score 3, peek 3. I thought this would be pushed more closely to a 4. There was only one 2 in the group, but the overwhelming majority shot a 3. I would like to see a better distribution around the par, but this hole looks to par out at 3. I am going to suggest making it harder.

Hole 2: Average score 4, peek 3. I like this hole and have almost ace'd it several times. Local route I guess... there were almost as many 4's as 3's. I believe we need to clear a few more upper level limbs to push the average score closer to a 3. There was only one 2 in the group and I expect more. I would like to see a better distribution around 3, however with the average higher than the peek, we need a little more work.

Hole 3: Average score 5, peek 4 to 5. A good distrubution between 4 to 5 and while I heard a bit of whining about the hole, I seriously doubt any work needs to be done. Next year the fairway should be much more compact and I bet we see the average and peek drop closer to 4.

Hole 4: Average score 4, peek 4 and a good distribution around par. No changes likely.

Hole 5: Average score 4, peek 3. I like this hole and have almost ace'd it. While the peek as at 3, the average was high, because quite frankly once you get off the beaten path, it costs you. This hole is 2 able and we had several 2's. It is also 4 and 5 able. Some consideration may be given to a little work to get a slightly better distribution, but for the most part I doubt much change will occur.

Hole 6: Average score 3, peek 3. This hole was mostly a 3 with a few 4's and 5's and only a single 2. I believe we need to look at some clearing to make a more clearly defined fairway. Overall, however, if you messed up it cost you. The smart shot was to go for a 3 and ignore a possible 2. Cleaning up the hole will fix that.

Hole 7: Average score 3, peek 3. Good distribution.

Hole 8: Average score 3, peek 3. I like this hole, I 2 it regularly and have almost ace'd it several times. Local route. The distribution is skewed toward hovering mostly at par. I would like to see a few more 2's, but I do not see much that can be done without killing the hole. I believe the hole will work in over the next year and we will see a better distribution next year.

Hole 9: Average score 3, peek 3. Good distribution.

Hole 10: Average score 4, peek 4. Okay distribution.

Hole 11: Average score 4, peek 4. This one surprised me. I thought par was closer to 3. Distribution was okay, no changes anticipated.

Hole 12: Average score 4, peek 5. The distribution is skewed toward 5. I believe this is a good hole and will have to discuss the par with the club. I really don't think there will be too many changes. I would like to clear more vines from trees so that the trees do not get killed by the vines. This will make the hole a little easier and maybe make the distribution look better.

Hole 13: Average 4, peek 4. Distribution is skewed more toward 3 than it should be, but I don't see any reason to make the hole harder.

Hole 14: Average 3, peek 3. Distribution of scores is okay with a few more scores above the par than below.

Hole 15: Average 3, peek 3. Distribution of scores is okay with a few more scores above the par than below, but not a significant amount. I really don't see much that should be done to the hole, based solely on scores and distribution.

Hole 16: Average 2, peek 2. Distribution is too lop sided toward 2. I am going to recommend that the club put in a harder pin for the long pin position. Maybe another lefty hole (as if there are not enough)

Hole 17: Average 4, peek 4. Distribution is skewed a little heavily toward par. I doubt any changes will be made. There were three, count them three 2's on this monster hole and four 3's.

Hole 18: Average 3, peek 3. Distribution was okay, a little skewed to the higher side of par. A little fine tuning would probably help the distribution somewhat.

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I somehow ended up in the Grave Yard both rounds, demoralized... I wasn't able to throw an up shot. (5) both rounds. I recommend making it more interesting for next year, add some witches and some death spikes to impel discs. :)

Tons of fun on dogwood, hope to see the course shiny and gold next year.

Apparently there were two disc golfers out playing late one evening and as they rounded a corner they see this thing come staggering over the hill at Dogwood 18 right from the graveyard area. He/it was shambling along, a tee shirt stretched tight against the chest and the gut so distended from bloating that it stuck out from under the tee shirt. This living-dead man was chuckling and mumbling in a deep bass voice. As the players turned to run away one of them swears they heard this not quite living/not quite dead man mumble something about loosing a CE valk......

Matt, are you referring to the tree in the middle of the graveyard or another?


I would think he is talking about in the middle of the graveyard and I totally agree. A good tee shot that stands a chance to get up for a putt has too much potential to get smacked down and even worse land O.B. Some trimming on the right side of that tree would make the hole much better!

I don't know. We will go back and look at it, but I fear that making the hole easier will not really make it better, just more people will be paring the hole. As it stands, of the 21 players I looked at there were 2 birds, 13 pars, 3 bogies, 1 double and 1 triple. What I need is to keep the bogies and move 2 of the 13 pars to birdies. So if we can make it just a little easier........


I would think he is talking about in the middle of the graveyard and I totally agree. A good tee shot that stands a chance to get up for a putt has too much potential to get smacked down and even worse land O.B. Some trimming on the right side of that tree would make the hole much better!

I think 6 long was great. I just busted out a ginormous thumber way to the left of everything and landed about 15 feet from the creek right across from the basket. Any chance of clearing some of the brush from my landing area over there so I have a clearer putt to the basket?

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Coda did the same thing as you and went OB. I got as lucky as can be and had a 25ft putt.

Not a good hole in the long pin if you ask me,..to flukey

Agreed. This is pretty obvious from the score distribution. We will be working that hole.


Codadid the same thing as you and went OB. I got as lucky as can be and had a 25ft putt.

Not a good hole in the long pin if you ask me,..to flukey

I don't know. We will go back and look at it, but I fear that making the hole easier will not really make it better, just more people will be paring the hole. As it stands, of the 21 players I looked at there were 2 birds, 13 pars, 3 bogies, 1 double and 1 triple. What I need is to keep the bogies and move 2 of the 13 pars to birdies. So if we can make it just a little easier........


Coda and I both thought the limb needed to be trimmed. Lefty route is a little easier but I bet most 2's were off big putts. If you try to flex something at the tree and miss the limb youwill likely hit the trees farther back on the right.....not really a workable line for anything I can throw.....perfectline is 2ft into the limb on the graveyard tree.. Way too many pars on that hole and most bogies are from the graveyard.

Agreed. This is pretty obvious from the score distribution. We will be working that hole.

Nice to see I was the only 2 though. lol

Jerry, why the desire to have multiple placements? Why not just permanently leave those two holes in the short positions (6 & 15) and keep 11 & 12 in the long and settle on one placement for the others. Most of the great courses don't have multiple placements, or we don't play both during tournaments.

I gotta agree with james there, except that I like the idea of having "casual placements" and "tournament placements" on some courses. casual pins that encourage more local play, but tournament pins that are the *real* course. In Tyler's case, there are two very solid casual courses there. No need to force dogwood into that role (not saying you are). IMHO tournament dogwood should probably just be the best of the 18 pin positions.

I don't think I'm a fan of #1 short, #6 long, #11 long, #14 long or #18 short. I haven't seen all of the short pins, so there may be others that I could add to that list. I can say though... with the best of the 18 in use, this course is a gem. a bit more trimming and it will be one of my top 5 favorite courses. The good news is that the club is willing to listen to the feedback! Next year's version will be awesome, no doubt.

Anybody have a Piney Woods stamped coyote they want to trade or sell me?

I have a few left. send me an email - josh@titledisc.com

I have always tried to offer as many different holes as possible because I like playing the different setups. I don't have a problem with doing as you suggest. What do other players think? I guess what I am trying to accomplish is a variety of play. Dogwood in the short behooves players with technical games, Dogwood long helps players with long arms.

James I got to tell you though, I like 15 long and would probably leave it there. 11 long, I still have not played. 6 short would be fine.

Jerry, why the desire to have multiple placements? Why not just permanently leave those two holes in the short positions (6 & 15) and keep 11 & 12 in the long and settle on one placement for the others. Most of the great courses don't have multiple placements, or we don't play both during tournaments.

I have always tried to offer as many different holes as possible because I like playing the different setups. I don't have a problem with doing as you suggest. What do other players think? I guess what I am trying to accomplish is a variety of play. Dogwood in the short behooves players with technical games, Dogwood long helps players with long arms.

James I got to tell you though, I like 15 long and would probably leave it there. 11 long, I still have not played. 6 short would be fine.

Just pick the best pins and stick with them. 3 and 6 are better in the short along with #15 since the line to the long is a little iffy if you ask me. The rest are pretty nice in the longs.

Dogwood in the short behooves players with technical games, Dogwood long helps players with long arms.

I'm only talking about the shorter holes but, playing the shorts I just took a mid range and hit the gap and it worked out pretty well most of the time. I just wish I had done that playing the longs instead of using a driver. I could have taken easier 3-4's instead of 6-7's. Not being a long arm I think this strategy would have kept me competitive in adv. Definitely want to test this theory out soon.

I'm only talking about the shorter holes but, playing the shorts I just took a mid range and hit the gap and it worked out pretty well most of the time. I just wish I had done that playing the longs instead of using a driver. I could have taken easier 3-4's instead of 6-7's. Not being a long arm I think this strategy would have kept me competitive in adv. Definitely want to test this theory out soon.



Yeah, the gaps.. I missed pretty much all of those. :)

some of those gaps are tighter than the gaps in my teeth!!!!

some of those gaps are tighter than the gaps in my teeth!!!!

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Nice to see that you learned your right "Home row".

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Nice to see that you learned your right "Home row".

I had made a post about that gentlemen being an Okie and how normal it was to have gaps in the fairway narrower than the ones in his teeth given that he was an Okie but then decided better of it.

the gaps in my teeth are tight, the gaps on that course are tighter.