Wow? They took the entire thread away!:mad:

Man, that really changes the complexion and atmosphere of things.:eek:

Yeah, I left work at 2:30 yesterday and I come back today and it's gone. Somebody must of narc'd to the PDGA yet nobody's name appears in the probation list.

That was some classic stuff and now it's gone. :(

If the PDGA is looking for some extra cash then it ought to compile a book from all the trash talk threads it has deleted over the years and offer it for sale in a plain brown paper wrapping.

Because of their action I am going to have put a stop payment on the "Send the Dude to DG Camp" check I just sent in.

there was absolutely nothing in that thread to justify yanking it. you okies are entertaining.

Just more of Big Brother worrying about things that no one but they care about.

Only thing I can think is they let Duesler critique it for political correctness.:cool:

WEAK!!!!

There was some quality trash talkin there. I wake up this morning and it's gone...weak

You'd think that if they were going to pull it, at least 4 -5 of us should have gotten probation or at least an email warning.

They have about as much backbone as a jellyfish.

The last post I saw was the one where Dave said that Coda's downfall began with me and Chandlerstock. That was some really good old school classic stuff.

Sorry Coda but I believe Dave is right. I just have that affect of people. :)

On the other hand, you met Shanna so you should be thanking me.

The last post I saw was the one where Dave said that Coda's downfall began with me and Chandlerstock. That was some really good old school classic stuff.

Sorry Coda but I believe Dave is right. I just have that affect of people. :)

On the other hand, you met Shanna so you should be thanking me.

I will only complicate you. trust in me and fall as well.
I will find a center in you. I will chew it up and leave.

Tool--

I will only complicate you. trust in me and fall as well.
I will find a center in you. I will chew it up and leave.

Tool--

The only reason why I have a downfall and drop in World Ranking is due to not having reliable transportation... Having to find rides to all my tournies really sucks.. but I'm in the process of getting a new car so the upswing is coming!!! And more big tournies are in the near future, which I can't wait for. I hate having to settle for a C-Tier or a B-tier instead of hitting the Big A-tiers or NT's. But you guys assume you know my situation and throw insults at me, which sucks... THANKS FOR THE SUPPORT!!

So is Andrew going to take my advice and order one of those Russian "live in" girlfriends because playing guitar won't help him to mate. :)

Who was ragging on you? I ragged equally...................I though both assesments were fair. You both dropped as soon as you put women in your life. Its just a question of priorites.................... Soon enough you'll be just another MPM hanging around.

If you want other examples:

Ben Powell
Tom Townsend
Cris Hicks
Justin Bougher
Devan (when he had a girlfirend)
Mike Conners


The list is endless............relationships and familes will overtake any career or hobby.

for sure, but seeing as I have played over 20 tournies this year it's not taking away that much.. If I could drive myself, I would have played many more tournies and more big ones!!

for sure, but seeing as I have played over 20 tournies this year it's not taking away that much.. If I could drive myself, I would have played many more tournies and more big ones!!

In time you will see!! Coda is coming back in full force, find me at a course near you!!

for sure, but seeing as I have played over 20 tournies this year it's not taking away that much.. If I could drive myself, I would have played many more tournies and more big ones!!


Just admit it. You chose a realationship over disc golf. I'm NOT knocking you for it, she is a GREAT gal but If you don't think so, then name me a tournament out of those 20 that were not either in Oklahoma or in a State connected to it. And you might have a car if you wouldn't let her drive.:D

There will be a day when you decide to make it your hobby. That will be the day she tells you "remember that time last month we forgot to stop at the store?" "well guess what?" Now you have an extra mouth to feed and it won't happen collecting at minis and c tiers on the weekends. As a matter of fact it won't happen out on tour for the majors either. Thats when life takes over. Plain and simple. Then all you can do is make your comeback in the MPM division.

Having to find rides to all my tournies really sucks.. but I'm in the process of getting a new car so the upswing is coming!!!


So you have a darts tournament scheduled with Peewee huh?

Plain and simple. Then all you can do is make your comeback in the MPM division.

You could be Brad Hammock 4 time Masters World Champ, he had the same score that the Open Players had last weekend at Brent Hambrick Memorial.

Pot meet kettle.:D

Pot meet kettle.:D

Master's is the perfect division for me. I only play golf on Saturday & Sunday, I'm ready for a cart (golf cart that is) and I already play to the shade side of the pin.

Yeah in the old days I could be Master's this year, and I never lose to Brad around here. I wouldn't be surprised if he wins Master's again this year, he's been playing pretty good. I will probably be playing Masters at World's in 2013 especially if it's here in Augusta like it may be.

The only reason why I have a downfall and drop in World Ranking is due to not having reliable transportation... Having to find rides to all my tournies really sucks.. but I'm in the process of getting a new car so the upswing is coming!!! And more big tournies are in the near future, which I can't wait for. I hate having to settle for a C-Tier or a B-tier instead of hitting the Big A-tiers or NT's. But you guys assume you know my situation and throw insults at me, which sucks... THANKS FOR THE SUPPORT!!

Furdog:Sorry Coda but I believe Dave is right. I just have that affect of people.


Hang on buddy, my post was meant for Furdog not you!!!!!!!

I remember when I could have been a contender. It was the first Riverside Glide I went to but instead of the TD putting me on a card with a mentor with vision that could have cultivated and helped me find my DG true potential, I was put on a card with Bud Johnson and Steve Naegele. Mentors with "double vision" and thus my game spiraled into and endless pool of emtpy beer cans and a life time of sleeping in. :(

In time you will see!! Coda is coming back in full force, find me at a course near you!!

Don't worry about anything Coda.

When that rubber breaks and you see two blue lines on that stick then your priorities will change quickly.


Just ask Kevin!!!!!!!!!!

Best thing that ever happened to him.

don't listen to them Coda. Just do what you do.

the dude in urban tulsa magazine...

http://www.urbantulsa.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid%3A27548

He owes me for that one.;)

nice article! go dude. its nice, and a privilege to have more than one big pro in town to cheer on!

all this flame talk about who is better blah blah... they are both amazing players and I don't see why we need to chose one or the other as the best. we need to be routing both these guys on, its good for Tulsa DG

Crap, I don't guess I'm even a player any more, just an

avid disc golf proponent

Sounds like I've been Dueslerd

All that blah blah blah and no mention of the TDSA? :(

Sure can tell that was a Wise production.

Why should the TDSA support a guy who doesn't even show to be a "current" TDSA member?

And what kind of job did Wise give him? Mowing the lawn? Cleaning up the dog pooh in the back yard? Shoveling horse crap at the horse barn?

I sure hope "The Dude" is getting the health, dental, and 401K options that he deserves.

I'm not the golfer he works for. That would be Mordecai. All I did was set the interview up for him. I wasn't there when it was done. Maybe we need to have a Club admin coach him a little next time.

Is Devan not a club member??????????????????

If this is true he will be at next Mondya's mini.

Wayne send me a membership form.

It just shows on the TDSA site that he is not current for 09. No biggie because he'll probably ace something at Centenial soon though and renew then.:)

Aces at Centennial don't require a current TDSA membership..

Boo!!!! Hiss!!!!

I guess that accounts for Centennial minis not listed on the TDSA flyers handed out at Chandler. :)

I'm sure you took the time to remove any reference of Centennial from anything you handed out.
I wouldn't doubt that for a second.


Regardless of your actions, membership will be required by me in exchange for the TDSA listing my events, should an Ace be hit.

Is that satisfactory?

Well normally if I were to agree with you that would make us both wrong but in this case I would think what is good for the goose is good for the gander. :)

The TDSA schedule exposes Tulsa DG to your Owassonite players just it exposes Tulsa DG'er to Owasso.

And no, I'm not wasting time "whiting out" Centenial minis on the flyers I hand out. I'm just whiting out your name and putting my name in there instead. :)

Thanks for agreeing with me.

Well it doesn't mean we're going steady or anything.

I think I liked it better when you were ignoring me.

I think the club should look into expanding it's schedule by printing discount coupons from local business's willing to offer any type of discount to DG'ers.

50 cents off a sandwich at Steak-2-Go.

Crowcreek ?

Charlestons ?

Put it on the back of the schedule and make the schedule "the coupon".

Heck of an Idea.

I have always thought that for the $20 membership (for 1 year) maybe the club could use it as a loss leader. Give the member a nice shirt, with an embordiered club logo, maybe even their name on it and a club bag tag. Give them both away at costs. I think this would generate a HUGE increase in active memberships and it would show our club strength, as they may be wearing these at out of town tournaments. Maybe give them a choice of a winter type shirt or hoodie and a summer shirt. After two years they could have something to wear supporting the club year round.
As it is now, active memberships don't create enough income for the club to create a fart in the account.

Right now what does the member get for their $15 annual or $20 two year membeship?

On top of that, at minis, if they're not a member, charge them $1 extra. Use the $1 for course improvements. Some will just pay the dollar but many will jump on board as a new member. A member can show their current year tag as proof when they sign up. or the club could provide a monthly membership roster. To make this work, all memberships would have to run concurrently for a clandar year. Every one renews at the same time. If a new member gets in in June, they still get their stuff but it expires in December. If a New member joins Oct-Dec, then they have the entire next year but only get one shirt but they would get a new tag in January.

I love all of those ideas Wise except the membership expiring in Decemeber. People are slammed with PDGA member fees and tulsa member fees at the same time.

There are countless MORE things that the TDSA could do that it doesn't with these membership fees, or the whole idea of memberships. We got those guys over tat "The Line" who are good at printing stuff on gear and discs.

My opinion on bag tags is we should have them, but we should have ONE bag tag that everyone uses. Chandler tags... okc tags.. tulsa tags.... we just need 1 active set of tags. Now I got no problem with holding some OKC tags ransom, but we need to promote Tulsa tags a lot, to where it actually means something to hold a top 5 tag.

I agree that if a membership actually provided something extra to the player that it would be much more attractive.

IMO, I prefer tags over a t-shirt just because as a TD it’s easier to carry tags around for sale than 3 or 4 different sizes of shirts. I think the club should offer two types of memberships. Standard $10 with numbered tag included and Deluxe $20 with tag and club shirt though I’m still not into the shirt deal as much. Having a club shirt with your name across the back is not that big of deal to me. I’ve got a WAFDA club shirt with my name on it and I never wear it. Most likely because I always have so many CS tees left over. Having your name on the shirt would mean that you would have to wait to get it also where as the tag puts something in the players hand at purchase.

If a player only renews membership after he hits an ace, (which many do) then hit him with the $15 membership and show him the error of his ways.

Just from my experience.

Dave Wise did a great job on the bag tags and organizing and running the eventual and probably best bag tag tourney I’ve ever seen. I can’t remember how many tags he sold total at $15 but I’m proud of my “one and done” shirt.

Last years bag tags never got off the ground due to what I believe were promotional problems.

All 100 of the CS25 tags have been sold and the reason I believe they did was.....

$10 is cheaper than $15
25th anniversary
Fund raiser for CS25 and Moose Run
Big, fat, and colorful with superior quality that stands out on your bag. (Thanks to the great work of Arkie SC Even McKee)
It had my great mug shot on it.
Collector’s item.
And last but not least I promised a lot of future perks which I may regret.

BVA has a golden mini basket perk sitting in his house.
Every event I’ve had since then offers at special CTP for tag holders and now that people see that they ask me if they can still buy a tag and I’ve got to say sorry but I’ve sold all of them. Most all of these people are not even TDSA members but imagine if TDSA offered more than just a right to vote and $1 off merch.

It was not my intention to take the bag tag deal away from the TDSA but as it was, nobody was doing it anyway.

I believe the issue should be put to a membership vote at the club picnic for:

A / Reduce the yearly membership from $15 to $10 and offer a club bag tag and possible a deluxe membership for $20 if needed.

B / Redirect the 20% cash it takes home from the total paid CTP of each mini and make that a special member only cash CTP at every mini for those who have their current year tags with them.

In other words for example, take the $6 the club takes at a mini with 30 paid CTP entrants and give a loyal member a chance to take some of his money back home.

Maybe just do it once or twice a month.

Let it build a few weeks and then it could be like $24-25. Imagine the novice guy that never cashes at a mini because of the baggers but owns a bag tag and turns around and grabs a twenty with one well placed shot. Ka-ching!!!!!

I believe the club is already subsidizing a few free CTP’s at a few special events so maybe the club membership would like something like this or some variation.

All TD’s would sell tags and participate and the club could possibly send some goodies to OKC and Arkansas for the faithful that bought tags here but live there.

A bag tag tourney should be a club event. Possibly at the picnic with matches consisting of 9 holes instead of 18 to save time.

As far as tags being held hostage. I sold them as a grab bag deal so that everyone would have a chance at lower number at least in the beginning. Some people may have only bought a CS tag because low numbers were still available in the bag long after they went on sale. Can’t do anything about someone that hordes the lower numbers but the winner of the bag tag tourney no matter what his original tag was, should be rewarded with a final city or state champ tag or trophy that makes having the # 1 tag in your possession less of a big deal. Sure, I would rather see the number 1 tag in the competition but I can’t force the holder to show up to lay it on the line. Maybe some cash incentive would help.

Another thing to think about. Lifetime members like myself don't pay to renew but with club bag tags on sale and perks to go with it I would be willing to pay $10 to get one vs not paying anything now.

Call an Admin today and tell them that "More is More"!!!!!

bag tags are cool but never really matters what tag # you have.Last bag tag event i was in i took #1 off Kelly Allen 1 week before the event.it was match play format 6 hole single elim. 64 total tags so 1 played 64 2 played 63 etc..guess who had # 64...Mitch Mac..lol ...so my #1 tag got me into match play with Mitch Mac at lyons first round...was a good drinking day shortly thereafter

Evidently the Dude doesn't need fundraising, since he just pocketed 1 large @ a Tejas Tourney, they always were easy money down south

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A Couple of Sweeties and a GAG gift. Help the DUDE take on the Dirty Dirty South, The proceeds will probably end up in the gas tank or some grub in his pie hole but all will help the Dude on a 6 week tour voyage.

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Who was ragging on you? I ragged equally...................I though both assesments were fair. You both dropped as soon as you put women in your life. Its just a question of priorites.................... Soon enough you'll be just another MPM hanging around.

If you want other examples:

Ben Powell
Tom Townsend
Cris Hicks
Justin Bougher
Devan (when he had a girlfirend)
Mike Conners


The list is endless............relationships and familes will overtake any career or hobby.

Going to start a list of half-talented folks that fell off the face of the disc golf planet when they got married.. with..

MYSELF!

Help the Dude Make his Tee time!!!! E-Bay those discs so next year you can bye him the Juniors Shuttle package so they can get him to his courses!!!!! How do you not check a schedule??? i checked mmine numerous times... Almost didn't make it to my last round due to getting lost!!!!

yeah that was a pretty juvinile move on Devans part. I can't even sleep the night before if I am not dead certain of my T times so I don't know how this got past him.

Hopefully he has learned from his mistake and we can all move on. I'm sure Devon is beating himself up more than anyone else could.

Way to hang tough and show some guts Coda, Some would have hung it up.

Devon Owens / The Great Owasso Hope :)

Devon Owens / The Great Owasso Hope :)


The Great Owasso Dope !:D