WAFDA is proud to host the 5th Annual Alma Greens located at the
scenic Aquatics Park in Alma, Arkansas.

This is a challenging and unique course designed for the adventerous disc golfer
including elevation and alot of shot selection opportunity.

Please read the flyer and please pre-register as I believe that this
event will fill before the morning of.

there is no "online processing fee" for registration at primediscs.com (http://www.primediscs.com/proddetail.asp?prod=tourney%2Dalma)




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Do I get a discount with my CS25 bag tag???? :confused:

Do I get a discount with my CS25 bag tag???? :confused:

only if you bring me stinky pinky #100 :p

I would but the guy who currently has it has been been hiding out and avoiding me. :confused:

I am extremely proud to announce that because of our great sponsorship
that we are adding:

$1,000 to the pro's

$500 to the am's

Tournament T-Shirt will be a "dry fit" style of material, you can try to guess the color :D

estimated players pack values are $25 for pro's, $40 for am's

This is WAFDA working for you, the player

I am 90 percent sure that I am heading to Alma for the one day B tier. Anyone else from Tulsa heading that way on the 27th?

Just saw the accounting info on the flier, good job with truth in advertising!

Just saw the accounting info on the flier, good job with truth in advertising!

Full transparency is always the best choice, we have put a heck of alot into this event to make it 1 to remember and even harder to match/do better the next year, our whole focus on this is a Quality event thru players packs/payouts, the course is also great with alot of unique holes

one of the major things that a club does is run events and we are taking this one to the next level

Outside sponsorship is key

Sponsors so far include:

WAFDA
Trophies Unlimited
A to Z (huge complex of different stores in Alma, also sell Innova)
Midwest Sporting Goods (Ft. Smith Innova and Discraft Dealer)
Allen's Canning
Innova
Twisted Flyer
Earthworks Landscaping
Big Smith Roofing
Northwest Arkansas Disc Golf Assoc.
Discs Unlimited
Disc Golf Monkey
Precision Graphix
Prime Discs

Raffle/CTP/Ring of Fire Sponsors is what I need now, if anyone has anything that they are willing to donate please let me know

included in entry for the $2 EDGE donation:

everyone will get a raffle ticket for various packages leading up to an Innova Sport

everyone will get a throw in a throw-off for an Innova Traveler

additional raffle tickets/throws will be for sale to put more money in the hands of EDGE

Raffle/CTP/Ring of Fire Sponsors so far:

Myself
Dave Wise
Michael Treat
Innova
WAFDA

(I think FurDog is good for a raffle sponsorship but he's been ignoring my calls, I don't know if he ever gets on this board, so if anyone see's him tell him to call me)

let's make this raffle HUGE :)

I'm sure I can kick you some stuff too!

UPDATE

I should be at the course from 1pm till dark next Friday, June 26th

we will do bring your partner dubs:

$10 per am team (100% merch payout)
$20 per pro team (100% cash payout)
flex tee from 3:30 till 6:30

The event's ob lines and ob rules sheets will be done Friday for those wanting to practice (same ob's as last year, except hole 6 will also utilize hole 5's ob line)

We have made special arrangements so anyone wanting to camp at the course may do so at no charge

please keep in mind that Alma is in a dry county and alcohol is not legal in the park (or anywhere publicly in Alma i.e. outside of a motel roome, ect.)

The closest and most affordable motel is right by the course, $39.99 + tax, flat rate so feel free to pack em in
http://www.meadorsinn.com/

of course there are more motels available so feel free to search the internet for them

FurDog has highly recomended this place so he needs post a review :)

ALSO, for those that enjoy quality Blues and Rock and Roll....

The Fort Smith Riverfront Blues Festival is going on that Friday & Saturday, only $5 a head, in the past they've had $2 beer available also (please be responsible)

the line-up includes:

The Robert Cray Band
Jackie Greene
Grace Potter & the Nocturnals
Roomful of Blues
Curtis Salgado
Eric Lindell
The Soul of John Black
Smilin� Bob & the Bushwackers

more info on the Blues Fest may be found at http://www.riverfrontbluesfest.org/

Raffle/CTP/Ring of Fire Sponsors is what I'm still needing now, if anyone has anything that they are willing to donate please let me know - I will print these merch sponsors on the back of the even'ts "dry fit" t-shirt - art is going to the printers this next Monday, June 22 if you'd like to be on the best shirt we've ever done

included in entry for the $2 EDGE donation:

everyone will get a raffle ticket for various packages leading up to an Innova Sport

everyone will get a throw in a throw-off for an Innova Traveler

additional raffle tickets/throws will be for sale to put more money in the hands of EDGE

Raffle/CTP/Ring of Fire Sponsors so far:

Myself
Dave Wise
Michael Treat
Innova
WAFDA
KelDog
FurDog
Twisted Flyer
Discs Unlimited

Huk Lab got on board also with enough stickers to add to the players packs, every little bit helps :)

let's make this raffle HUGE :)

I would go just to see Robert Cray Band.
Was this not a 2 day event last year ?????
3rdly I love Arkansas courses, have 4 of my best rounds there.
See ya Friday Night.

I would go just to see Robert Cray Band.
Was this not a 2 day event last year ?????
3rdly I love Arkansas courses, have 4 of my best rounds there.
See ya Friday Night.

Robert Cray Band is good

Alma Greens has always been 1 day
perhaps you're thinking of Hell on the Border, it is 2 days

Lookin forward to seeing everyone :D

Online reg thru prime discs has closed

"Honor System" pre-registration is now available thru e-mail or phone (on flyer)

If you are sure that you're coming and want a spot guaranteed to you please let me know, Name, PDGA#, Division, contact phone #, ect.

current registration may be viewed at http://www.pdga.com/tournament-results?TournID=9320#Open

i am signed up

i am signed up

So... that just means that you can't wait for a beating :p

Hey Evan. Did you get my e mail concerning pre reg for Saturday. I noticed (as mentioned) that online reg. is already down. Can you sign me up? Thanks!

So... that just means that you can't wait for a beating :p

I might take a beating, but I KNOW it won't be from you. $5 per round, $10 on totals?

I'll take the bet!

Is -6 the score to beat kyle??
Good luck and have fun everyone and a safe trip. Worlds is only a month away!!

um NO wilkes u take enough of my money that bet is just for DUFF

LOL

I doubt he will get a wager with anyone other than Coda.

anyone playing dubs friday night, looking for a pre arranged partner so i don't have to flip for one.

also was told all the hotels and motels in alma are booked so I think Russleville is an option.

The best bet on another room would be Van Buren, as it would just be about 15 min from the course. A person could even do Fort Smith, which is not in a dry county and is on the way back to Tulsa. It would be about a 20-30 minute drive depending on where the hotel is in town.

If you are a B&B type, or are traveling with significant others, there is a bed and breakfast in Chester, 15 min North of Alma, that I am told serves a wonderful breakfast, and is Disc Golfer friendly.

I also want to ask everyone to go by A to Z sporting goods, our biggest sponsor and local disc golf dealer, between rounds on Saturday. There is a nice cafe across the road in the other part of A to Z.

Good luck to all in the tourney!

I made a reservation last night online at the comfort inn in alma, no problem..

also was told all the hotels and motels in alma are booked so I think Russleville is an option.

Russelville is too far, definitely take Willie's advice

Ft. Smith or Van Buren: all interstate & 15-20 minutes from the course

I'll be available at the course from 1ish till dark today for dubs and registrations

Lookin forward to seeing all you Okies :D

also was told all the hotels and motels in alma are booked so I think Russleville is an option.

I made a reservation at meadors inn last night without a problem.

I meant Van Buren, I dont know what I was thinking.

The Meadors in Alma is a quality place to flop IMO. Last time I stayed there it was less than $40 and the resturant there has good home cooking type of food.

Best of all.....it's a 2-3 minute drive to the course. I don't know if the water park across the street is open but with this 100+ heat it sure would be tempting.

All you Okies go and bring home that Arkie cash and get back home safely.

Travis Koehring for prezident....... nuff said

oh.. he won advanced, and woulda won open... WHOOOOPS

u. tha. man.

Yeah awesome day today Travis! I played both rounds with him and he was just on fire!! 6 down the first round and 7 down the second round I believe!! Nice win!

http://www.pdga.com/tournament-results?TournID=9320&year=2009&include_ratings=1#Open


Over $800 raised for EDGE, thanks everyone:D

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The photo from this tournament are now up. Hopefully you won't feel that day's 107 heat index from the photos.


Click here to see the photos (http://www.smugmug.com/gallery/8724201_7YRXD/1/576763766_TBuVw)

Nice Pics Bobby!!!

Gary better watch out or TDSA is going to have a new camera guy!!! :o

P.S. The new emoticons suck.

P.P.S. Will you e-mail those series of 3 or 4 pictures of my drive (from behind) Bobby?

Will you e-mail those series of 3 or 4 pictures of my drive (from behind) Bobby?

Me too Cool Daddy Slick Breeze. The pics of me are on hole 11's tee...three pics I think.

Nice Pics Bobby!!!

Gary better watch out or TDSA is going to have a new camera guy!!! :o
it's nice to know i can be so easily replaced
P.S. The new emoticons suck.

P.P.S. Will you e-mail those series of 3 or 4 pictures of my drive (from behind) Bobby?
i always knew you were strange, but now you want to look at pics of your behind...get some help :eek:

P.P.S. Will you e-mail those series of 3 or 4 pictures of my drive (from behind) Bobby?

pretty sure they are available to download when u BUY them :)

cmon support the man!

pretty sure they are available to download when u BUY them :)

cmon support the man!

Dang! That smugmug website that Bobby uses is cool. You can choose a pic and get a print (in all sizes and finishes), and/or you can put the pic on a t-shirt, sweatshirt, apron, button, stickers, mouse pad, mug, coaster, refrig magnet, poster, ceramic tile, mahogany desk organizer, box, pic puzzle, luggage tag, key tag, tote bag, playing cards...wow...oh, and you can buy download rights for either $1 or $3...depending on the quality you want...nice pic website Bobby...

Gary some of us still want you to take pics!!!

Nice Pics Bobby!!!

Gary better watch out or TDSA is going to have a new camera guy!!! :o



Thanks for the compliment but there can only be one "camera guy" and Gary well deserves it.

pretty sure they are available to download when u BUY them :)

cmon support the man!


Didn't realize I should pay for other people to make money off my image...

Not that I am opposed to paying Bobby...but shouldn't I have been asked before my image is put up for sale?

Am I wrong?

If I walk up and start taking commemorative photos, for cash, by some old man's collector car, is the old man not entitled to a slice?

Don't make it more than it is Andrew, Bobby was out there sweating his arse off like all of us. At least we can show support for him by getting the pics paid for if you want one. Im sure if you dont want your pic published you can sign a waiver. I am glad he got some cool pics of me and I do plan on buying 2 or 3.

Same goes for garys pics. He has been giving us free pics for a while and now we need to support them the same way they do us.

The way I see it he is actually practicing his hobby just like us...

And "support them the same way they do us"?

Since when is Gary paying me directly for anything? Or Bobby? I appreciate what they do and all but I'm just saying. If they want to go out and take pictures for money they are in the wrong sport.

I'm sure they could take a lousy photo at Wimbledon and make as much as they would in a year off "disc golf action shots".


And Hinds aren't you still on some sort of banned list for cussing out that dog owner at Hunter?

Way to rep the sport pal.

never was informed of any banned list, but id tell you the same thing I told the dog owner if i was.

i'd like to see how any one here reacts when the're favorite disc gets chewed to pieces without so much as an apology. That guy deserved what he got.

Highway 169 has "Road Rage".

Hunter park now has "Dog Rage".:)

Hinds, I probably would have said nothing to the guy and just trashed his vehicle instead.

Or you could have thrown tainted dog food over the fence and blamed it on the cat owners.:)

Andrew, Rob Davis is my official tour photographer and real superstars like me don't have to pay to have our picture taken.

It might be benificial for your future law career to pay up or Bobby will photoshop your picture into something that won't help you to mate. :)

Consider CDSB a form of papparazzi... except he is following even bigger losers around than the real Papz do. I like Gary's approach to taking and sharing pictures over the last 4 years I have known him, he has done a GREAT SERVICE to the club. It will be funny when there are more photog's trying to take pics to sell for a buck than players to take pics of. Congrats to CDSB who FINALLY joined the good ol' PDGA...

Congrats to Evan and his crew for hosting a kick booty event up in them there hills!!! Wish we could have made it up, I owe Cam K an arsewhooping!

Didn't realize I should pay for other people to make money off my image...

Not that I am opposed to paying Bobby...but shouldn't I have been asked before my image is put up for sale?

Am I wrong?

If I walk up and start taking commemorative photos, for cash, by some old man's collector car, is the old man not entitled to a slice?

Birdie,

I am not sure what I did to offend you but I feel I should reply to your post to maybe help clear things up just in case others wondered about the photos I take.

This is my understanding of the "taking my photo" law.

First, the law is somewhat fuzzy on whether I can take photos of you guys because it really depends on the person in the photo. You see, you are playing on a public park so I have the right to take photos unless you approach me and say, "Don't take my photo". Now, let's say you never say anything to me about taking your photo and I write up some editorial in a newspaper or a magazine and I use a photo of you and I am simply reporting on the tournament then I am in the clear, I have not used your image in any way to endorse anything.

But let say I sold your photo to Innova and they used it to advertise a new disc. Well, then I am in the wrong for not getting you to sign a release.

Now as far as "not asking you if I could take your photo and put it up for sale". You have every right to ask me to take down your photo and this is clearly stated just about everywhere I post photos. I make it known on my site that if you do not want your photo online to email me and I will take it down.

To also protect the copyright of the images you will also notice that when you purchase a photo that your are also agreeing that the photo is being sold with a Personal Use License and not a Commercial Use License. This means you agree that you will use your image for personal use only.


Yes, the photography and video are a hobby that I hope someday turns into something that could become a career but not just in Disc Golf. Disc Golf is not the only media production I do. Bridie, imagine if you got paid for playing disc golf. You would be getting paid to do a hobby you love. I'm sure you have heard the old saying, "Find a job you love and you'll never work another day in your life."

I was introduced to disc golf about 5 months ago and enjoy the sport very much. After making some connections with people in disc golf I saw the opportunity to put together two things I enjoy, disc golf and media production.


And as far as your example with the collector car. If the photo was used as in an editorial sense like in a newspaper or magazine then no, the old man is not entitled to some cash.

If however it is a classic corvette and chevy wants to use the photo in a commercial or a magazine ad then yes, the old man could ask for a piece of the profit made from the sale to chevy.

The way I see it he is actually practicing his hobby just like us...

And "support them the same way they do us"?

Since when is Gary paying me directly for anything? Or Bobby? I appreciate what they do and all but I'm just saying. If they want to go out and take pictures for money they are in the wrong sport.

I'm sure they could take a lousy photo at Wimbledon and make as much as they would in a year off "disc golf action shots".


And Hinds aren't you still on some sort of banned list for cussing out that dog owner at Hunter?

Way to rep the sport pal.

LOL. You know if I sit here and think about it, you probably aren't wrong for wanting free pics... everyone now-a-days wants free handouts.. so why don't you email the Obama administration and ask for some government provided rebate coupons for a free 6 photos from cool daddy slick breeze. I think you can find the form online, just below the WIC section.

I don't think you are entitled to them by any means, but I was more or less throwing it out there that you could choose support this guy's hobby. He is out at an event almost every weekend and takes some really sweeeeet photos in really good quality. I've bought at least 6 prints from him (its like 2 bucks a pic guy... LOL im sure you can find that kind of money somewhere, oh yeah you guys sell discs right? why dont u sell A DISC...)

stop being such a pansy and throw down some dollars for some well taken photos.

getting all up on your HIGH horse about it being "you" in the photo, gimme a break.. if he didnt take any pictures of you then you wouldnt have any sweet shots to look at

and why rip on Hinds? seems like ur just bitter about having to pay for pics (although bobby probably hooked u up, cuz hes nice, not cuz he should or has to)

Check this out. How in the hell do you expect disc golf to gain exposure? People like Bobby out there taking videos and posting them up. You know how hard they worked to get the live webcam feed at the GCO.. all of that is beginning ground work for something bigger. And if I can help support him by sending him 12 bucks for some cool photos then I'm all about helping him out. I don't know what else you need 12 bucks for anyways...

But let say I sold your photo to Innova and they used it to advertise a new disc.

you gottta at least use real examples man, this would obviously never happen... :-P

maybe gateway or latitude... maybe

I agree.

Andrew, you are not a classic car and I believe that anyone can take a picture of anyone in public place as long as they are not shooting their cell phone up some girls skirt or in a public bathroom.

Get over yourself or I'm going to come over to your house and cut off your electricity. :)

Birdie,

I am not sure what I did to offend you but I feel I should reply to your post to maybe help clear things up just in case others wondered about the photos I take.

This is my understanding of the "taking my photo" law.

First, the law is somewhat fuzzy on whether I can take photos of you guys because it really depends on the person in the photo. You see, you are playing on a public park so I have the right to take photos unless you approach me and say, "Don't take my photo". Now, let's say you never say anything to me about taking your photo and I write up some editorial in a newspaper or a magazine and I use a photo of you and I am simply reporting on the tournament then I am in the clear, I have not used your image in any way to endorse anything.

But let say I sold your photo to Innova and they used it to advertise a new disc. Well, then I am in the wrong for not getting you to sign a release.

Now as far as "not asking you if I could take your photo and put it up for sale". You have every right to ask me to take down your photo and this is clearly stated just about everywhere I post photos. I make it known on my site that if you do not want your photo online to email me and I will take it down.

To also protect the copyright of the images you will also notice that when you purchase a photo that your are also agreeing that the photo is being sold with a Personal Use License and not a Commercial Use License. This means you agree that you will use your image for personal use only.


Yes, the photography and video are a hobby that I hope someday turns into something that could become a career but not just in Disc Golf. Disc Golf is not the only media production I do. Bridie, imagine if you got paid for playing disc golf. You would be getting paid to do a hobby you love. I'm sure you have heard the old saying, "Find a job you love and you'll never work another day in your life."

I was introduced to disc golf about 5 months ago and enjoy the sport very much. After making some connections with people in disc golf I saw the opportunity to put together two things I enjoy, disc golf and media production.


And as far as your example with the collector car. If the photo was used as in an editorial sense like in a newspaper or magazine then no, the old man is not entitled to some cash.

If however it is a classic corvette and chevy wants to use the photo in a commercial or a magazine ad then yes, the old man could ask for a piece of the profit made from the sale to chevy.

Bobby, I am in no way offended...

I was just making a point that I think the photos should be free to those in the photos.

If you disagree, as I see you do, cool. I, somewhat like Joe said, APPRECIATE what you do but I prefer being able to at least get some free copies of the pics taken of me.

If I was out taking pics and got a good one of you I would send it to you without thinking twice.

Not trying to say anything bad about what you do, I totally dig it. I was just presenting an argument.

Since when is Gary paying me directly for anything? Or Bobby? I appreciate what they do and all but I'm just saying. If they want to go out and take pictures for money they are in the wrong sport.

pay for what? missed putts:p

LOL. You know if I sit here and think about it, you probably aren't wrong for wanting free pics... everyone now-a-days wants free handouts.. so why don't you email the Obama administration and ask for some government provided rebate coupons for a free 6 photos from cool daddy slick breeze. I think you can find the form online, just below the WIC section.

I don't think you are entitled to them by any means, but I was more or less throwing it out there that you could choose support this guy's hobby. He is out at an event almost every weekend and takes some really sweeeeet photos in really good quality. I've bought at least 6 prints from him (its like 2 bucks a pic guy... LOL im sure you can find that kind of money somewhere, oh yeah you guys sell discs right? why dont u sell A DISC...)

stop being such a pansy and throw down some dollars for some well taken photos.

getting all up on your HIGH horse about it being "you" in the photo, gimme a break.. if he didnt take any pictures of you then you wouldnt have any sweet shots to look at

and why rip on Hinds? seems like ur just bitter about having to pay for pics (although bobby probably hooked u up, cuz hes nice, not cuz he should or has to)

Check this out. How in the hell do you expect disc golf to gain exposure? People like Bobby out there taking videos and posting them up. You know how hard they worked to get the live webcam feed at the GCO.. all of that is beginning ground work for something bigger. And if I can help support him by sending him 12 bucks for some cool photos then I'm all about helping him out. I don't know what else you need 12 bucks for anyways...

First off this is obviously not about the money. So I don't know if that was a stab at a college student's finances or what....

And a "pansy"? Ohhh, now I see why I should pay for those photos Paul. All I needed was my masculinity to be challenged... Ha! Thanks!

Hinds deserves criticism in my mind for the way he acted. In no way was he taking the high road or trying to let it go....I believe he instead actually threatened to trash the guys car.

Isn't this a guy who ran for Admin?

And I think he can take care of himself without your help Paul.

Disc golf get's exposure just like other sports...it is made into a video game and kids are programmed to like it.

Any if your final point was really......what else do you need $12 for?....


......then I am done typing.

the only time i have charged for pics was during am worlds. wasn't originally the plan, but kevin put the idea in my head. did i get rich... no, never expected to. but i did make enough to cover my expenses for processing and the merch i bought.
over the years i have been given plastic and such, which i consider a bonus.
if bobby wants to charge for pics, thats cool. he realizes he won't get rich, but he is just trying to help pay expenses. and he has brought something new to the club thru the videos he produces.
if this sport is ever to grow, golfers have to support sponsors and not be expecting everybody to give them something.
i have been asked why i don't play, i guess i enjoy the photo side more, when i get tired of that i will pick up the plastic again.

Face it Gary.....You like to watch. :)

Face it Gary.....You like to watch. :)
oh no... they're catching on:p

one thing i have always wanted is to see one of my pics on the cover of the magazine.(which i have lobbied for) at the GCO this year, i was able to get a few that i thought would be cover material and IMHO i thought some were better than the one on the current edition. who knows, it could still happen.

"if this sport is ever to grow, golfers have to support sponsors and not be expecting everybody to give them something."

No I don't expect Innova to send me a free box of discs, but if they released a new disc called the "Treat", I would call West Coast and tell them my name and I guarantee they would send me one.

I don't EXPECT anything.

I only asked for an email, and since then I have only presented arguments and addressed other people's comments.

"if this sport is ever to grow, golfers have to support sponsors and not be expecting everybody to give them something."

No I don't expect Innova to send me a free box of discs, but if they released a new disc called the "Treat", I would call West Coast and tell them my name and I guarantee they would send me one.

I don't EXPECT anything.

I only asked for an email, and since then I have only presented arguments and addressed other people's comments.

But maybe you guys are right...maybe we should charge for everything. I would like to see the look on Snake Skinn's face when I say, "Here is your card, if you want a pencil with it that will be extra."

Your arguments are so rediculous. You were wrong about the old man and his car, you attack hinds for telling you to sack up and buy a couple photos, you don't understand that bobby is providing a service by taking pictures, you aren't providing any service by playing disc golf (direct service), and your pencil analogy... come on. I'm pretty sure when am's win mini tournaments and you pay out in plastic, you are getting free disc sales, am I wrong? You can pay for a pencil that innova probably gives you for free anyways.

Many people provide services and are paid for them. I think the problem is you see it as him enjoying is hobby, which HE IS enjoying his hobby, and lucky for him and like he mentioned, he found something he enjoys and can make money at it. Will he get rich off pictures... no, but hopefully he can make enough to pay for the equipment and expenses and keep travelling to tournaments and taking pictures.

Initially, my response was playful, yet serious at the same time, "hey why don't you just buy the photos..." then you opened your mouth and talked, which of course led to stupid things being said. You actually think you have a right to any photo you are in, gimme a break. I'm surprised you aren't asking him to pay you royalties for all the people buying your images off his site.

Also, if anyone ever made a Treat disc it would probably be Whamo, not Innova man, Innova is da best!!

Where is the link to these pictures you want anyways? Let me see if they are worth buying... :) probably not half as good as the pic in my avatar <<<<<< sexi

"I think the problem is you see it as him enjoying is hobby"

Now that is RIDICULOUS.

"then you opened your mouth and talked, which of course led to stupid things being said."

And that is where you lost any semblance of respect from me. Resorting to a personal attack?

That is just weak argumentative style.

And in fact that statement could be viewed as a slanderous personal attack...which is against the rules, as I am sure you know.

People charging for action pics has gone on longer than disc itself. We have been around the soccer world for a while now. There are photogs at every tournament. All they do all day long is take action shots of most all players and every game and you are welcome to any copy you want but not for free. Thats why their out there to maybe land a few shots that will put a little $$ back their way. I'm kind of with Dorries on this one. If were to see a pic of me or even you that I'd like to have, I'm more than willing to pay for it and consider it a convenience for the price.

Its just unfortunate that I am rarely happy with any action shot of me. Never pretty to see a fat old man straining every thing they have to throw a piece of plastic.:o

Sorry Andrew, I know you were just questioning the legalities of it. But if you want free pics, have mom come out with the Kodak and follow you around.:cool:

"I think the problem is you see it as him enjoying is hobby"

Now that is RIDICULOUS.

"then you opened your mouth and talked, which of course led to stupid things being said."

And that is where you lost any semblance of respect from me. Resorting to a personal attack?

That is just weak argumentative style.

There is respect on the line here? Didn't realize that... personal attack? Am I not allowed to poke fun at u on some INTERNET FORUMS... cmon.

How is it rediculous? Yeah he is enjoying his hobby, but that is ALL you see, which is what I'm calling rediculous... you don't see the need for us as disc golf players to support his hobby so he can continue to take the pictures? I personally like the fact that when I play an event and Bobby is there, there are some sweet photos after its all over.

Can we play on the same card again soon? I think I need to throw some more good shots so you can call them "fortuitous" again :)

or maybe you are trying to act all hurt so I can give you some of my sweet echo-gems... no way guy!

Sorry Andrew, I know you were just questioning the legalities of it. But if you want free pics, have mom come out with the Kodak and follow you around.:cool:


I'm sure furdog has some free pics he could give him :-D

There is respect on the line here? Didn't realize that... personal attack? Am I not allowed to poke fun at u on some INTERNET FORUMS... cmon.

How is it rediculous? Yeah he is enjoying his hobby, but that is ALL you see, which is what I'm calling rediculous... you don't see the need for us as disc golf players to support his hobby so he can continue to take the pictures? I personally like the fact that when I play an event and Bobby is there, there are some sweet photos after its all over.

Can we play on the same card again soon? I think I need to throw some more good shots so you can call them "fortuitous" again :)

or maybe you are trying to act all hurt so I can give you some of my sweet echo-gems... no way guy!

It's not "rediculous" it's ridiculous.

I have no more problem with Bobby taking pics than I do with Gary or anyone else. I just wanted clarification on what was going on, which I got.


And if I called your shot fortuitous is probably was.

You know there is always the lead card at Am Worlds....will you be on it?

You know there is always the lead card at Am Worlds....will you be on it?

Well of course I will be, but I want to play an entire round with you not see you in passing when we cross paths half way through the round :)

Maybe we could just battle at the mini tonight, that is if you decided to play. But then again, maybe you shouldn't play and spend that 12 bucks on the precious photos you want.

sidenote: if anyone is going to be in KC this weekend let me know... prolly gonna play some worlds courses friday and saturday... planning on making another trip with more people next weekend too... its all up in the air

I for one dont see any problem with Bobby trying to sell these action photos.if you dont want them dont buy them .Both my nephews 6/7 play many sports and tournaments almost every tournament there is a photographer there taking action shots "for sale online"they give there information and you can chose to buy or not.What about the oklahoma sooner state games photographer his site is pay per print and you let him block the whole end of your teepad to take like 45 pictures in 5 seconds.I for one enjoy looking through Bobbys slideshow of each event and checking to see how hard everyone is trying when throwing.Dorries tries so hard parts of his face slip into another dimension..that one pic that i viewed for free would normaly cost you 10$ to get into the fair then another 5$ for the sideshow .And plus Bobby is a cool dude that i enjoy talking to hanging with.i never would have ahd a chance to meet him if he didnt enjoy the photography..Keep up the good work Bobby ...make sure my color commentary of Jeremys alma play makes his next road to worlds video...:)

I didn't realize that guy was doing this same thing, I thought he was just practicing with his camera.

What is his web site address, lets see how many pics of me he has...


Bobby didn't get in the way like that guy did, not at all. Yeah I remember that guy being right at the end of the tee box while I'm throwing and I hear...click...click...click...click...click...cli ck...click...

Don't even get me started on how many stroked Gary has cost me over the years....lol

its like a rollercoaster ride at a major theme park. They are going to take the pic whether you like it or not. It's your choice to pay for it and keep it or just let it fade into oblivion. Thats the best comparison i could think of on my short 5 min. break here.
CDSB and Gary. You guys rock.

Opie, think of it in terms of baseball cards. Fame and rariety is what makes them valuable.

Who would want to buy a pic of red-haired Poindexter from "Revenge of the Nerds" when they can purchase rare photos of Jerry Garcia?

Bobby knows that and the only reason he offers to sell yours is to help you with your nerdy low self-asteem. Nobody else is lining up to purchase your photo except maybe your mom.

And what is with the college kid excuse? The plastic you win isn't enough to send you to "Band Camp"? Eight years of college is enough. It's time you take your destined place behind the counter at Micky-D's and start doing your part for society. :)

Dorries tries so hard parts of his face slip into another dimension..

this is very true... you know the best part about it, in that other dimension, the pictures are free. So... every now and then, when I try hard enough, I throw so hard that my face goes into the next dimension and then I just download the picture there for free. Its pretty sweet, maybe Treat should try that if he wants free pictures.

Don't even get me started on how many stroked Gary has cost me over the years....lol there ya go... blaming me for your missed putts. maybe you should rename yourself--- BOGEY

this could be the other dimension dorries is talking about
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k266/garyE500/new%20folder/1stTee.jpg

I throw so hard that my face goes into the next dimension

Yep and chances are that is the same face you get when you're trying to pass a big log on the toliet also. Who would want to pay for something like that? :)

this could be the other dimension dorries is talking about
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k266/garyE500/new%20folder/1stTee.jpg
Wonder what distance you could get on mars? hear there is wind there and one third our gravity. bet a 150 class could sail a ways there.

But it looks like its a long ways back to the parking lot.

if a course or event is worth it then no walk is too long, just the first part of your warm up routine.

I thought I heard that Centenial was a 3 block walk from parking to 1st tee, so if it is worth it they will come, and walk!

It is a three block walk Martin. :(

So far in fact that Wise is the only one that gets to drive his Crap-alanche over to the shelter. The rest of us have to walk and deal with little six and seven year old young thugs at the playground that want money to protect our vehicles from vandalizm. If you don't pay then guess what????

Probably another Twoputt idea of making more money for his park. :(

Its 2 blocks, maybe. Come tournament time, everyone will be able to park on that side by the shelter. EXCEPT you Dog, you'll have to park on hole 11.

My best money making idea is having all those snakes together behind hole 3 basket. Now I don't have to search for free plastic. Most guys will just say screw it and walk off. I just feed my little pets and they let me have the plastic.:rolleyes:

I love it when Opie gets whats coming to him.

Its 2 blocks, maybe. Come tournament time, everyone will be able to park on that side by the shelter. EXCEPT you Dog, you'll have to park on hole 11.

My best money making idea is having all those snakes together behind hole 3 basket. Now I don't have to search for free plastic. Most guys will just say screw it and walk off. I just feed my little pets and they let me have the plastic.:rolleyes:

I only saw one snake but I'll bet it's name is Hutch. :eek:

I got a 3 on that hole BTW.:)

hey all, wanted to seriously thank all who came out and supported this year

110 degree heat index, anyone just to be there and finish is an athlete in my book, anyone who thinks this is a hippy sport can kiss my ***

I pull this event for the tourney players, imo, the course is unique and not very suitable for beginning and casual players, I thought that I was gonna be amazed by WAFDA's ability in having all the added cash and merch, over the top players packs and handing $500 to 1st in Open, not to mention having the course in good shape.

well I was wrong, the players generosity is what left me saying WOW!!

We raised over $800 for the EDGE program, kids learning the sport early....that's the Future of the sport (and it's awesome seeing someone make more than the PDGA off of an event like this)

it would not of happened without the quality of the items in the raffle and the players recognizing and buying in

many thanks to all who contributed so strong to the raffle items, KelDog, WAFDA, Twisted Flyer, The Treats, The Baileys, FurDog, Duff, Sam Dodd, Discs Unlimited, Dave Wise.... I hope I didn't forget anyone

and then..... thanks to the PLAYERS who gave there money for such a noble cause

thanks to Daryl Johnson, such a class act, he wins the 1991-2004 set of National (moving into World) Doubles stamped discs and turns around and gives it to me (you'll get a chance at it with the Hell on the Border EDGE Raffle)

many people donated to the CTPs (18 packages) and I thank them also

the course getting whipped into shape took alot of volunteers also, Roger Knight, Shea Hammond, Willie Williams, Wade Parker anyone else I'm not thinking about- ya'll rock

then the awesome tourney staff that helped me so much, I couldn't of done it without them, Dave Hudson, Kelly Ganzel, Chris Eads, Shawn LeMastus even stopped by during lunch with more ctp items and checked and sorted scores then helped make cards out - and Willie Williams and Roger Knight on water and tent set-up - Thank You!!

then the sponsors, to payout: over $1000 cash added and over $500 merch added

WAFDA, A to Z Sporting Goods, Earthworks Landscaping, Big Smith Roofing, Northwest Ark. Disc Golf Assoc., MidWest Sporting Goods, Disc Golf Monkey, Allens Canning, Trophies Unlimited, Precision Graphix and Innova - wouldn't of been as sweet without them!!

Next WAFDA event: 14th Hell on the Border, Aug 22 & 23 - Ben Geren Park, Fort Smith, Arkansas (I wonder how them "dry-fits" are gonna look in red?)

Often times going into and even during an event I wonder why in the heck I'm doing it, now I remember.....Thanks Everyone :)

No EVAN- Thank you. I broke my streak of placing in Ark at 5 but now that im in the a/c I can sit back and reflect on what a good tuckered time I had. WAFDA is definetly a class act !!! Looking forward to HOTB #14.

I owe Cam K an arsewhooping!

Hey Joe, can I get one too? lol
Sorry I missed it, it sounds like it was a fun time for everyone.

If half the energy of this rant were applied to moving the pad at Dovillio or picking up trash around the local parks we would be in tip top shape! Nice thread drift on Evan's thread though! As for CDSB & Gary their shots both ROCK, it is mostly due to their efforts people understand the look and passion of Oklahoma disc golf. During the NT both of those guys kept the world up to the minute with the pics and video the presented. Which kept future travelers interested in us as well as a few sponsors VERY HAPPY. A win win for US in Oklahoma.

I personally had to use the "no pics of me disclamer" at Chandlerstock year before last on some tweek in a van that was video taping as well as snapping stills. I walked up and told him my name and that he did not have my permission to photo or use shots of me for any reason. He made a note of it and moved on to the next group of folks. He left after another 10 minutes... no biggie. Way different case but proof a good photog knows whats up as Bobby said earlier.

Dave is right when he says pay for pics has been around forever... 2 words... PARTY PICS!!! Remeber those cats who would hit up High School dances and catch you gettin' your groove on and then post em up at school the next day for a buck?

I do appreciate Opie's question, the only stupid question is one that goes un asked in my opinion. It is however amazing to read some of the BS replies to the question. Great recession proof entertainment.

Sorry for hi jacking your thread Evan. We are just use to taking over all things Arkie, lol.

Sorry for hijacking your thread Evan but Andrew started it.

Sounds like another fine Arky production.

What is this I hear about giving my care package away to one guy?:confused:

I was told you didn't even open the box?:(

Who got the $30 cash I left for a non-winner or did it go to Edge?

Either way is great with me.

Andrew and I had a 5 minute stare down at dovillio mini last night, but he won because I just couldn't keep from laughing when gazing into those alien shades.

Should have seen him squirming when I bet you that dollar.;)

He said, "now he's going to think I put you up to that." I said "probably not, but he will when I tell him you did.":D

Nice putt by the way, to get YOUR dollar back.:rolleyes:

Should have seen him squirming when I bet you that dollar.;)

He said, "now he's going to think I put you up to that." I said "probably not, but he will when I tell him you did.":D

Nice putt by the way, to get YOUR dollar back.:rolleyes:

i should have made you give me 2 to 1 for the pre-drive birdie bet :P

And I would have but you didn't ask.:D

Sorry for hijacking your thread Evan but Andrew started it.

Sounds like another fine Arky production.

What is this I hear about giving my care package away to one guy?:confused:

I was told you didn't even open the box?:(


of course I opened the box, I made a ChandlerStock raffle pack with a couple of disc, t-shirt, mini, ect. and the rest went into various ctp packages

Wayne Gregory won the Chandler Stock pack, already wearing a past Chandler Stock Tye Dye :D

Who got the $30 cash I left for a non-winner or did it go to Edge?

Either way is great with me.

at the very end there were a couple of players left that had'nt won anything and we did a short ctp

Dickie Pool and another guy I don't remember the name

$20 to 1st and $10 to 2nd

Thanks Dave, they were happy to win something

of course I opened the box, I made a ChandlerStock raffle pack with a couple of disc, t-shirt, mini, ect. and the rest went into various ctp packages

Wayne Gregory won the Chandler Stock pack, already wearing a past Chandler Stock Tye Dye :D

Well what happened to the bottle of Crown and the $250 cash I put in there toward added cash to the pro payout?:confused:

Well what happened to the bottle of Crown and the $250 cash I put in there toward added cash to the pro payout?:confused:

Crown :confused: I thought it tasted like weak tea compared to the shine we drink in arkieland, that Union money that you sent is worthless so we used it in the insulation of our chicken houses :p

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that was too cool. Sweet pics and video!