REGISTRATION ANNOUNCEMENT:

The 2009 Beaver State Fling May 22-24th Presented by Keen Footwear (http://www.keenfootwear.com) is opening online registration on the PDGA (http://www.PDGA.com) website on Monday March 30th at noon! We are reserving 20 spots on the amateur side for mail in or hand in entries for 7 days from the 30th of March. The registration form will be available online at Registration Form (http://www.beaverstatefling.com/2009/registration), on the 30th of March. This tournament has sold out in years past within a few days so please don't wait if you intend to compete in the event.

When the online entries are full you may get on the waitlist by emailing Michael Phillips from the BSF website (http://www.beaverstatefling.com/2009/contact) using the category Registration Question and please provide all relevant information from the registration flyer.

Our hope is to be fair to all by announcing the registration date before it officially opens.

Thank you for your continued support of The Beaver State Fling!
We look forward to seeing all the competitors & spectators out on the course.

All the best!

Jeff Mittl
Mike Phillips

I can't wait!!!! I know that I don't have to remind anyone who has played this event how absolutely awesome Milo McIver State Park is, but if you have never played here I strongly recommend you make the pilgrimage.

We have been busting our backs preparing the course, and we still have a few more work parties scheduled.

Just as a word of warning... tournament disc golf has had a huge explosion of growth here in the NW. The first Oregon Series event this year filled up 152 spots in 48 hours, so get signed up EARLY!!!

If you are having difficulties registering or logging into the PDGA online sign up, there is a problem with the hosting server and number of connections. Mr Breiner is working the issues as I type this and we hope to be up and running full speed shortly.

It seems that if you are interested in playing in the event you should try to register today, with the number of hits the event may sell out the online reserved spots today!!

Registration for the Beaver State Fling opened up at 12:00pm today.

Rabid Oregonian disc golfers busted the server at 12:01pm.

Thanks to some quick thinking techie types, the servers are now hard at work accepting registrations.

Not sure if this one is worth attending? Check out the following reviews of the course at: DG Course Review - Milo McIver (http://www.dgcoursereview.com/course.php?id=416)

The Amateur side is filling up fast, we have 19 spots left in the online sign up queue and it has only been up for about 3 hours due to the server issues experienced around noon Pacific time. If you are an Amateur and want to play my guess is you have about 3 more hours to sign up before the online portion will close.

Good luck and I hope to see you on the course!

We are now down to 9 Amateur spots left for online entry! Don't blink sign up now to secure your chance to take on River Bend Disc Golf Course at Milo McIver State Park.

Amateurs play 3 rounds with tee times,
Pro's play 4 rounds, 2 on Friday Shotgun, 1 Saturday Tee Time, 1 Sunday Tee Time

This Year Keen Footwear is our Title Sponsor check them out (http://www.keenfootwear.com) rumor has it they might be the next disc golf shoe company.

The online sign-ups for the Amateur side of the 2009 Beaver State Fling has sold out in a record 5 Hrs 45 min, this in part due to a server issue that plagued patrons from signing up online for 1 hour, I think we could have done it in under 5 hrs but there is always next year!

The Beaver State Fling Online Sign up has filled for both Amateur's and Professional Golfers. We currently still have wait list signup available online at the PDGA.com Store for Am's and Pro's

Pro Wait list (http://www.pdgasignup.com/Qstore/Qstore.cgi?CMD=011&PROD=1238365609)

Am Wait list (http://www.pdgasignup.com/Qstore/Qstore.cgi?CMD=011&PROD=1238366525)

Thanks for helping to set some new records for the PDGA online sign ups

OMG! I can't believe the Pro side filled in 1 day. I really need to get into this tourney and had no clue it would fill that fast. I just signed up on the wait list, hopefully I'm one of the first ones. Ughhh.

Patrick,

Sorry about that, we have a popular event up here in the Great Northwest.

We are encouraging Pro's to sign up on the wait list and we are holding spots for touring pro card holders. There have been a few of those individuals that have already signed up online so we will fill their held spots from the wait list. Your credit card will not be charged until you have been taken off the wait list and added to the event.

I know it's a popular event, I went last year and had a blast and loved the courses. BTW I did get on the waitlist last night and I am a touring pro card holder. So is their an exception for me then? PDGA #25325

We are pleased to announce The Hampton Inn has stepped to be the host hotel for the 2009 Beaver State Fling.

Host Hotel Details (http://www.beaverstatefling.com/2009/lodging)

This is shaping up to be the best Beaver State Fling to date.

Thank you to everyone who signed up. You helped us crush all previous registration records. It looks like we sold out 144 AM slots in under 3 hours and all 144 Pro slots in around 48 hours.

Yeah, I swear I signed up to be notified when registration opened but never got the email. I'm on the wait list. This sucks...the one event I really wanted to attend this year and I have to wait. I didn't play last year because I had to teach field school. BTW...how many Gateway sponsored players are registered??? I couldn't find a list of registered players.

I foresee separate weekends in the future.

So Matt, did you sign up to play BSF? I would like to see separate weekends but Milo McIver is a state park and I'm guessing it is difficult to get the permits for such events.

The Pro side registration list has been posted on BSF NT (http://www.pdga.com/tournament-results?TournID=8392), we are waiting on a few people to make payment to confirm the last 3 spots. We will post the wait lists probably tomorrow or Tuesday depending on when Todd Breiner gets back into the office.

We understand that the event selling out so fast was not expected by Professional Players outside the Oregon Disc Golf scene. We are looking into running the event next year on separate weekends but it comes down to an issue with the state parks and the use of their facilities.

It sure caught me off guard. Congratulations on the fill and good luck with the event.

Bob

I'm confused why I'm not on the list I know for a fact that I signed up before other people on the list and I'm still not on there. Not Cool!

Patrick and I spoke over email and discussed the criteria for the 20 held spots for touring Pros. I let him know we were selecting based on Touring Pro's and world ranking. I know this can be difficult to swallow, picking others based on past performance but it ensures that some of the best in the world will be here to push the competitive level higher and allow their fan base in the Portland area a chance to see them play.

I hope this does not create a sense of jadedness to those who are lower ranked.

See you on the course!

I understand and that's just how it goes. I'll wait like the others on the wait list and just hope I get in. I do find it funny though how you want all the top players in the world to make it to this event but it's being limited because ams who didn't get in took up space on the pro side. I counted like 25+ players under 950 in the open division. Which is also over 1/4th of the field. I guess all's I'm saying is it should be only qualified based (then open it up to the rest of the public on a certain date) or only first come first serve based just so it is a little more fair. I dunno that's my opinion. I'm not really complaining just suggesting more so that maybe it works out a little better for everyone next time. I still plan on showing up till the day of to see if I get in.

Interesting.

Hope you make it in off the wait list, Pat.

Thanks, me too :)

I agree with Patrick. I think it is rather a little ironic that the TD says they want it to be the best field possible for spectators and "to push the competitive field higher" when there are obviously many handfuls of players that don't meet that criteria. This is a NT event and there are "professional players" registered who don't even break the 900 rating mark. I finished 7th last year in this event and don't even know where I stand on the waiting list.
I do think the popularity of this event is awesome and definitely worthy, but it definitely proves there is something a little wrong with the way registration takes place. I believe this is an indication that change needs to happen. So with that being said I will keep my fingers crossed hoping to get in to my favorite tourney I've ever played besides USDGC.

Unfortunately for you, you are finding out what we in Oregon have been learning for the last two years - if you want to play in the more popular Oregon tournaments you have to sign up early. Or in the case of this year - immediately! Great Northwest Open - full at over 160 in 36 hours. Beaver State Fling - AM full at 160 in less than 6 hours, Pro NT full at 144 in less than 48 hours. It's a testament to the hard work of our TD's and the enthusiasm of our players. The BSF is one of the best tournament experiences in the country thanks to a lot of hard work, and that is no longer a secret.

Many, many Oregon golfers have learned this the hard way the last two years. And someone is always disappointed. However, there was nothing unfair in the way BSF registration was handled. The reg day and time was announced well in advance on the BSF website, if you were paying attention you had plenty of notice, and plenty of out of state golfers made it in. Limiting Pro fields for NT events to only a certain rating or above is a separate issue and is not the responsibility of the BSF staff. IMO, it's also a bad idea.

It sucks to get shut out, we've been learning this the hard way in Oregon. I imagine the Pro players who were on the ball and made it into the BSF don't mind taking the entry fees of the lower rated players who made sure they were registered.

Its always a bummer to hear about people being on the wait list, but I would like everyone to bear in mind this event almost did NOT happen. The team who ran the Beaver State Fling in the past needed a well deserved break and decided to take this year off. In spite of the fact that the previous TDs for this event set the bar extremely high, Mike & Jeff stepped up to the plate and agreed to run it for us this year. I know some people are pretty bummed about being on the wait list, but please cut the TDs some slack. They jumped directly into the deep end of the pool and they are really busting their asses to make this happen.

As for the unforeseeable issue of the Pro field being overwhelmed with AMs due to the AM side filling up so quickly. It is a testament to the quality of this event and this venue that so many ams would agree to pay nearly double for entry fees just to be able to play. With that said, I do think something needs to be done down the road to ensure Pros get a better shot at the Pro entry slots.

Understand that nothing can change this year, but it might help other events or even next years event. One idea I have been mulling over. Lets say, for example, that for the first month of registration we limit Pro side entries to people who have actually played Pro in a sanctioned event within the past year. If someone signs up who has not previously played pro they go to the wait list. At the end of that first month if there are any remaining slots they can be filled off the waiting list or by any AM who wants to sign up.

I agree with Patrick. I think it is rather a little ironic that the TD says they want it to be the best field possible for spectators and "to push the competitive field higher" when there are obviously many handfuls of players that don't meet that criteria. This is a NT event and there are "professional players" registered who don't even break the 900 rating mark. I finished 7th last year in this event and don't even know where I stand on the waiting list.
I do think the popularity of this event is awesome and definitely worthy, but it definitely proves there is something a little wrong with the way registration takes place. I believe this is an indication that change needs to happen. So with that being said I will keep my fingers crossed hoping to get in to my favorite tourney I've ever played besides USDGC.



I guarantee you that the 1000+ pros who got in don't mind the field including a lot of <975 pros. Guess who pays their bills? It's not their fellow top players, its the guys who sign up for an NT with a very small chance to cash, they are there just to have a good time. Until DG gets a bunch more sponsors for big trnys, these players are needed.

and it was announced over a month in advance. I just spoke last night with someone who almost missed out, and he isn't happy about having to pay so many entry fees way ahead this year...but things have changed and its never going to go back to times where if a touring pro showed up to a event 3 days before they would get in no problem. Those are the only people I'd cut any slack for, the ones who are living week to week on tour and might not have a extra $500-700 to pay a bunch of entry fees way ahead.

Rather than rag on BSF for having the OPEN division open to everyone who is interested, maybe suggest that due to the high demand next year they go the route of Vibram and hold 10 or 20 touring pro card spots till a month before the event?

Patrick and I spoke over email and discussed the criteria for the 20 held spots for touring Pros. I let him know we were selecting based on Touring Pro's and world ranking. I know this can be difficult to swallow, picking others based on past performance but it ensures that some of the best in the world will be here to push the competitive level higher and allow their fan base in the Portland area a chance to see them play.

I hope this does not create a sense of jadedness to those who are lower ranked.

See you on the course!



The Touring Card holder requirement is no longer in effect for NT events.

According to the Competition Manual, players need to be registered in the order they were received on a first come, first served basis. If two entries arrive at the same time, the player with the lower PDGA number gets the spot.

The BSF policy of allowing players in off the wait list based on world ranking or being a touring card holder was not announced prior to registration and is not posted anywhere on the BSF site. It seems unfair to change the registration policies a week after registration started. And to alter policy on the premise of wanting a higher quality player is counter to the fact that 45% of the current Open players have ratings 960 or lower. Also, there are 17 players that are not even current PDGA members.

The current wait list should be made public so players can see who is ahead of them on the list.

AGAIN - I do not have any problems with events limiting who can register or how to allow players in off the wait list - AS LONG AS IT IS ANNOUNCED IN ADVANCE.

That is what happened to me, a few people ranked higher than me on the world rankings got in before me even though I signed up before they did. Seems slightly unfair but I have to deal with it just like everyone else. I was informed that touring card holder spots were going to be saved and then it was changed. (and there is an official list even though the PDGA says they aren't gonna use it for NT's, that's what I was informed for this tourney would happen. Shouldn't it be up to the TD anyways if he wants to base it off of the touring pro holders or not?)

BTW I'm not giving the TD's a hard time. I understand that it takes a lot of work and this is tough but it doesn't mean that you just push aside issues that may arise and ignore them (which isn't the case, they have been in contact with me and definitely tried to sort things out, great communication). You obviously are someone who got into this tourney and in my opinion didn't get unfairly pushed back on the waitlist. So I definitely will express what happened and how I think it can be bettered for next year. Isn't that what the forum is for, to express ourselves?

As for ur part of this Luke, of course top players like seeing more lower rated players for a better chance of more money but they also like seeing great competition = great experience! I know they said registration opened on the 30th or 31st but I had no clue I had to sign up with in a day and a half. I'm sorry I had no inside help like others. Only way I found out to sign up was after it was full, how often do you sign up for a tourney the day registration opens? Practically never! I had no clue. Also I wasn't saying that lower rated players shouldn't be able to compete in the open filed in NT's I just was suggesting opening up registration to certain qualified players for like the first couples days or week, and then to the rest of the community. It seem like some of you who responded to this really didn't read what I wrote and just wanted to defend things I never said. Next time you respond make sure you know what you read.

Are you still planning to post a wait list? It would be good for some of us to know where we stand. Thanks.

Does a Touring Card even have any benefits? Do they still issue them?

Doesn't sound like it :(

wish i could make this one flash, the Bellinger's set the bar high, i wish you the best of luck!

love the course, the people, the surroundings, the vibe and the disc golf explosion in the northwest.... go get 'em Skelli

Hey guys and gals I understand what you are saying and there is something that can be done about it but it takes you to make it happen. Contact the PDGA or the Tour director and let them know that you are not happy with the current system.

We opened up online sign up and included 119 spots, but we held back 25 spots from online sign up for top touring pro's and sponsors. We contacted the PDGA about holding the spots for the Top Touring pros and they said although it was no longer a requirement it is a good idea to provide that option. We decided to do this and regardless of whether or not it was the right thing to do we made the choice and now we have to live with the consequences of that choice. I am sorry that we can not let everyone in to the event but we did the best that we could for the event and the players in the event.

I firmly believe that for NT tour events only those Players who paid Pro PDGA membership fees should be allowed to sign up for the event. All others should go on a wait list that can be filled from at the TD's discretion the closer the event gets. I mean what is the added benefit of paying a higher PDGA membership fee if Ams can play in a Pro only event and prevent Pro paying members the ability to compete.

I say contact the PDGA and suggest a change to the policy for the NT events. But from a TD's perspective, we can not restrict amateurs from signing up in the event. Those decisions need to come from a policy change within the PDGA.

Hey guys and gals I understand what you are saying and there is something that can be done about it but it takes you to make it happen. Contact the PDGA or the Tour director and let them know that you are not happy with the current system.

I say contact the PDGA and suggest a change to the policy for the NT events. But from a TD's perspective, we can not restrict amateurs from signing up in the event. Those decisions need to come from a policy change within the PDGA.




We don't need to contact the PDGA to change anything. Events are already welcome to set registration parameters if they are clearly stated in ADVANCE. The PDGA already set a policy - it is the BSF that is choosing not follow it.


According to the PDGA Competition Manual - ALL openings will be filled on a first come-first served basis. Since the words ALL OPENINGS were specifically used in the PDGA Competition Manual, this PDGA policy would apply to the wait list (or the BSF Touring Card Spots Held list) as well. In short, the PDGA Tour Card Holders that registered first, should get in ahead of any Tour Card Holders that registered after them.

If BSF or any other event wants to alter policy, it needs to be stated in ADVANCE!!! Such as: 20 spots will be held for Touring Card Holders until x-date and will be awarded in order of player ranking. Or - Registration shall be for PDGA classified pros until x-date. Or - Players registering before x-date must have a PDGA player rating of at least 950. Or - Only players with blue eyes may register until x-date. After x-date, registration will open for all player classifications, rating levels and eye color.

Events can also hold spots for "qualifying events" ala USDGC, Vibram Open and US Am Nats. Or limit entries to players who "participated in Southern National" events, etc. Other events set the number of players that can register in each division. All these events clearly state these policy "changes" in advance and the PDGA allows it.

PDGA Competition Manual
1.2. Tournament Registration
C. ALL openings in the field of play will be filled on a first come-first serve basis, until the allocated places in each division have been filled.
F. In the event that multiple entries are received simultaneously, the player with the lowest PDGA number
shall have priority.


The PDGA does not need to change policy, events just need to follow it - or announce changes in ADVANCE. Players should contact the PDGA and let them know they are not happy about events that alter PDGA policies without announcing changes in advance.




Also, where is the current wait list posted?

Wow. This situation is really sad.

On one hand we have a couple of guys who really tried to do the right thing by everyone here. They stepped up to run an NT that would have most certainly been cancelled. They called the PDGA with specific questions on how to handle this wait list/sign-up situation and they were erroneously told the way they had planned to deal with things would be fine.

On the other hand we have excited players like Pat & Emily and a host of others who just want a fair shot at getting in to play.

I really can't fault anyone here. Seriously, who could have expected an event with 288 spots to fill up in 36 hours or whatever it was.

While I do feel reallt bad for people on the wait list... please try to put yourself into the TDs position and understand the difficult situation they find themselves in. These are not guys who did anything with any animosity towards anyone. Yes, they did want to save a few spots for some of the top players, but what tournement director wouldn't want to see a 12 time world champion playing in their event.

In an event, please take it easy on the TDs... these guys are working very hard to make this event incredible. I know they're both learning a lot from this process, and I'd hate to see them walk away disgusted with the process.

I think it is awesome that someone stepped up to run this event and make it possible.

That being said, I am extremely disappointed that the PDGA Competition Manual is somehow an afterthought for many TD's. Hopefully this thread will raise awareness among TD's of the the Competition Manual and that they should consult it BEFORE setting event policies.

If so, then something positive can come out of this situation.




Heavy sigh! I am now some kind of bad guy for pointing rules out that no one seems to care about.

I think it is awesome that someone stepped up to run this event and make it possible.

That being said, I am extremely disappointed that the PDGA Competition Manual is somehow an afterthought for many TD's. Hopefully this thread will raise awareness among TD's of the the Competition Manual and that they should consult it BEFORE setting event policies.

If so, then something positive can come out of this situation.




Heavy sigh! I am now some kind of bad guy for pointing rules out that no one seems to care about.




Discette, I was never implying you were the bad guy/girl for pointing out the rules. I just didn't want people to think these guys are doing anything shady. They're just good guys trying to the best they are able... in an obviously difficult situation.

There were a lot of lessons learned throughout this process and I'm sure many things will be handled differently next time.

Well if what Discette says is true it definitely doesn't make me feel any better. Cuz that's the reason I'm not in the tourney. If it was suppose to be on a first come first serve basis I easily would have gotten in before quite a few higher ranked pros. O'well, it is what it is. God I hope I get in cuz I'm gonna be at the tourney anyways. I need to make the rest of the NT's.

Discette and others concerned,

We did contact the Tour Manager before we opened the registration and asked if we could hold the spots for the Top Ranked Tour Pro's. Dave Gentry agreed with our reasoning after letting him know what kind of registration numbers we were expecting. We were granted a waiver on the registration issue surrounding the saved spots. So please don't feel slighted and we promise not to feel called out.

According to the introduction of the Competition Manual we have the right to ask for a waiver if we find any provision unacceptable. The PDGA then can either grant or deny, in this case they agreed.

However, we should have been more vocal with the way we were handling the held spots for the event and for that we are sorry and intend to do a much better job next year. We have learned a few lessons surrounding this issue that we intend to apply next year.

Competition Manual:
INTRODUCTION:
The PDGA Competition Manual outlines procedures and guidelines for
PDGA events, and is to be used in conjunction with the Official Rules
of Play and Tour Standards document. These procedures and
guidelines are required for all PDGA sanctioned events unless
specified otherwise. If a Tournament Director finds any provision in
the document unacceptable a waiver may be requested by contacting
the Tour Manger.
Every effort has been made for this manual to compliment and expand
upon information contained in other documents. Where documents
appear to conflict this manual should be considered the authoritative
source. In the case of a conflict between documents the reader is
encouraged to contact the PDGA office directly for clarification.

I am sorry for any inconvenience the registration issues have caused. I know there are also many local Pro's who also did not log on to their computers to find out the event was selling out at a record pace. I wish we had room to accept everyone who wanted to play.

So is there a spot that we can view this wait list? I don't know if you already mentioned it or not but I thought you guys were gonna post it somewhere.

Hey everyone,

We have our Beaver State Fling fundraiser discs available on the Stumptown Online Store (http://store.stumptowndg.com/).

We have Glow Teebirds, Glow Destroyers, Glow Eagles, Glow Firebirds, Glow Orcs and Star Whippet-Xs and Champion Gators and Champion XCalibers. There are also Rocs and InnColor Star Ontario Rocs.

Help us us raise the bar at the Beaver State Fling to a whole new level by buying these up for us. We'd be more than happy to ship the discs to you or have them waiting for you when you show up for the event.

Thanks a bunch to everyone who has been buying these up!!!

Here are some pictures of the INNColor Discs for your viewing pleasure.
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h139/flash_25296/BSF%202009/P1000282.jpg
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h139/flash_25296/BSF%202009/P1000285.jpg

These discs turned out really nice and they look even better in person. If you are a Roc fan and can't wait until the USDGC to get an Innova Star Roc for the spectators this is a good opportunity. We have a limited run of these beauties designed by a local artist, Larinda Peterson. She is a non-disc golfer in a family of disc golfers but is warming up to the idea of throwing her artwork around.

The cost of one these Star Ontario Roc's is $25.00 and all funds support the 2009 Beaver State Fling

For the traveling players,

Here is the information for the Host Hotel,
http://www.beaverstatefling.com/2009/lodging

Book under Beaver State Fling

There is no additional charge for packing 4 people to a room so group up and cut the cost down to $20.00 +tax each a night!

The hotel does have a hot tub which is very nice to sit in and enjoy after a round at Milo and they have guest laundry facilities in case you've been on the road for awhile.

You might have noticed recently that we have increased the registration by 8 people. We have decided that with the longer days in May that we can afford to add one Ghost group to each of the pro pools, Pool A & Pool B.

See you all in 2 weeks!

The extra baskets on the west course and the east course will be installed on Monday May 18th for play. We will probably put the temporary rubber tee pads on Wednesday and the distance stakes. Thursday the full complement of tee signs and PDGA signage will be on the course.

Here is a preview for those that may have been missing Milo, keep in mind these pictures were taken in mid summer just replace the brown grass with lush green grass and that is what it looks like today. Currently volunteers are working on mowing this massive complex and it takes a mowing staff of 20 people to get the course ready for the event. So if you see those guys and gals out there working offer them a cold soda or water to keep them going!

Baskets that will be installed Monday:1W,7W,8W,18W
8E,9E,11E,12E,17E,18E

Here is a good map of the west course, click for larger image

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h139/flash_25296/BSF%202009/MiloWestCourse.jpg (http://www.beaverstatefling.com/2009/sites/default/files/Milo%20West%20Course.jpg)

Here is a good map of the east course, click for larger image

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h139/flash_25296/BSF%202009/MiloEastCourse.jpg (http://www.beaverstatefling.com/2009/sites/default/files/Milo%20East%20Course_0.jpg)

We have been authorized to allow above ground patio style fire pits in the group camp areas. There will be no fire rings or holes dug in the group camp areas whatsoever! The parks department has wood for sale or you can bring your own. Camping will be allowed Thursday night through Sunday night in the authorized 2009 Beaver State Camping areas. Here is the information you might be looking for. http://www.beaverstatefling.com/2009/lodging

Did you hear KEEN will have their Demo Disc Golf Shoe out at the event ;)

Hey guys and gals,

The Jeff Mittl has arranged for all of the early birds that are camping to be able to stay in the Group Camp A area at Milo McIver State Park.

The camping area is on your way down to the courses. When you come into the park take a left at the stop sign and then go down the hill, when you level out, the camping area will be on your right hand side.

Live scoring is up and running and we have a good battle going on for First place.

More to come.....

Yeah Pat, keep it goin'...

Tee Times???

Live scoring is going on now, Avery Jenkins and Ken Climo are battling it out in the third round on the east course at Milo McIver State Park, the Riverbend course. Round 4 is tomorrow with a 12:40 tee time for the lead card.

Check it out....these guys are playing great golf.

Live scoring is going on now, Avery Jenkins and Ken Climo are battling it out in the third round on the east course at Milo McIver State Park, the Riverbend course. Round 4 is tomorrow with a 12:40 tee time for the lead card.

Check it out....these guys are playing great golf.

Are the live scoring pars correct? It shows hole 1 & 2 as pro par four holes, yet McCabe got a 2 on hole#1 and Avery got a 2 on hole#2.

If that's correct, then indeed, these guys are playing great golf. :cool:

Looks like the pars got corrected to properly show that for the East course. Thanks. :cool:

Can't wait to see what the big guns get on the 1196 ft pro par five 14th hole. :eek:

Wow, the entire second card took bogey 6s on the monster. :eek:

And Climo is en fuego. :cool:

These course maps make this look like such a killer place to play.
Are any of the road/path shaded areas OB?


btw,
Are these satellite pictures or helicopter?

good to see Eric back and playing well. appears Orum is making a move up and the 6 avery took could cost him..

Des is on cruise control. way to go Des.

Wow, what a nice payout!!!

Wow, what a nice payout!!!

agreed. lotsa good kids got a good payout. all in nt cash. most golfers will never see nt cash. these guys really are something else.

Yep, I believe the total pro purse was in the neighborhood of $45,000.

Way to go KC. Take no prisoners!!

These course maps make this look like such a killer place to play.
Are any of the road/path shaded areas OB?


btw,
Are these satellite pictures or helicopter?

The pictures are from Microsoft Virtual Earth, you can download it and use it for free, and if you register for an MSN account you can save points on the maps you create. It also has a cool feature called Birds Eye View!

The only OB's the main concrete roads, the walking paths and access road through the middle of the two courses is not OB this year. The players on an average of 5 to 2 request that the access road be made OB next year!!!!!

Any idea when registration will open this year?
(I realize its early, but I don't want to miss out!)
Thanks!

Dana,

We are working on getting the New Website up online and an announcement made for the opening of registration. If you want to get on the BSF2010 mail list shoot me a PM and I will add you.

Expecting March 1st registration will open for the NT side, expecting March 15-20th registration will open for the A-Tier side!

We need to make sure everything is setup correctly this year so that we do not have a system crash for online entries, that is the reason for the split registration opening days. We have every belief that the Pro side will still fill within 1-2 days!

Stay tuned or shoot me a PM with your Email address to get on the mail list.