March 14&15th WHAT 'S UP ????????????

Haven't heard a thing about it........................ :p

Its on the schedule though.....should be fun. Can I play Cali? :o

Official Green Country Doubles Announcement

March 14th & 15th 2009

***NON-SANCTIONED***

DIVISIONS
Open Flight A $130 per/team
Advanced Flight A $100 per/team
Amateur Flight B $ 80 per/team
Recreational Flight B $ 50 per/team
Mixed (Male/Female) Flight B $ 50 per/team

Optional Ace Pot $5 per player (Payout will be by Flight)

FLIGHT A
Saturday 1st Round Red Hawk 6-6-6
Saturday 2nd Round Black Hawk Best Shot
Sunday 1st Round Dovillio Best Score
Sunday 2nd Round McClure Alternate Shot


FLIGHT B
Saturday 1st Round White Hawk Best Shot
Saturday 2nd Round Red Hawk 6-6-6
Sunday 1st Round McClure Alternate Shot
Sunday 2nd Round Dovillio Best Score

Information: Michael Treat 918-245-4644
mtreat1@cox.net

I checked with the Park Friends at Mohawk and they will begin charging for parking on April 1st, so that will not be an issue.

I wanted to change things this year and use Hunter and Haikey. Since Haikey is still offline that just wouldn't work.

I thought about using Chandler with the new course, but Scott isn't sure it will be ready in time.

Joe pointed out that this is really the only club event at the Hawks until possibly the Oklahoma Open so that is our plan.

Sign-ups will be available Friday the 13th before Late Night with Dave Nicholson and Satruday morning from 8:00 to 9:00 am.

We have ordered disc for the Am players packs. The first 45 teams will receive a tournament stamp, after that it will be a players pack of equal value.

This is being ran again to support the TDSA so please come out and show your support. Prices are the same as last year with no increases.

Since this is non-sanctioned there will not be an additional $10.00 for non PDGA members.

This will be fun, doubles are great, so we will see you there.

Contact me with any questions...

any online sign up or should we just call MT?

Looking for partner in the advance div. Let me know if you are interested.

Looking for a partner in the rec. division...

any online sign up or should we just call MT?



No online sign-ups.

I will have a sign-up sheet posted on the TDSA site soon. You can mail it to me..

So can I pm you to sign up and you save us some pre-sign up tournament disc's and we will just pay sat morning when we hit t-town????? I gotta have time to print out the money! lol

Official Green Country Doubles Announcement

March 14th & 15th 2009

***NON-SANCTIONED***

DIVISIONS
Open Flight A $130 per/team
Advanced Flight A $100 per/team
Amateur Flight B $ 80 per/team
Recreational Flight B $ 50 per/team
Mixed (Male/Female) Flight B $ 50 per/team

Optional Ace Pot $5 per player
__________________________________________________ ____________________________________________

To me these prices seem awfully steep for a non sanctioned event? We are always saying how we would like to get more people to play tournaments, but if the price is too high the casuals just keep playing casual. If we want to get more people to play tournaments in this sport we all love, we need to keep the cost of playing down. Especially in this troubled economy.(My two cent's)

btw, Last year there was not even trophies given out :confused: I personally would rather have a small trophy than a stack of plastic.

OK, off my soapbox now......

If I were playing Am, I would always rather have a nice trophy or plaque than a stack of plastic. The plastic will be lost, traded or sold but the trophy is something you will always have. As for the entry fees, hard to say what is too much, the attendance can be one measuring factor but not the only one for attendence. With more and more tournaments and only 52 weekends in a year, this effects attendence also. I know the economy is effecteing everyone, even me. With all of the events available and the unstable economy, I think all events will suffer on their numbers, those with higher entries will suffer even more. With the exception of a few majors and long standing events. Its come down to club vs club for tournament dates and players.
Who can offer the most value to the player. The club or event that can give the player a sense of value for their hard earned dollars will survive, the others will fade away.

I wonder if it would be possible for the club to hold a tournament for it's members only, no entry fees but still with trophies and prizes. This may even spur some new memberships and reward those that have been continuing sponsors of the club. Would it be a money loser for the club? Hard to tell but even if it lost $500 it would show the club membership some type of thanks or reward, other than schedules and minis.

Official Green Country Doubles Announcement

March 14th & 15th 2009

***NON-SANCTIONED***

DIVISIONS
Open Flight A $130 per/team
Advanced Flight A $100 per/team
Amateur Flight B $ 80 per/team
Recreational Flight B $ 50 per/team
Mixed (Male/Female) Flight B $ 50 per/team

Optional Ace Pot $5 per player
__________________________________________________ ____________________________________________

To me these prices seem awfully steep for a non sanctioned event? We are always saying how we would like to get more people to play tournaments, but if the price is too high the casuals just keep playing casual. If we want to get more people to play tournaments in this sport we all love, we need to keep the cost of playing down. Especially in this troubled economy.(My two cent's)

btw, Last year there was not even trophies given out :confused: I personally would rather have a small trophy than a stack of plastic.

OK, off my soapbox now......



I understand your concerns James. Both of my sons are now playing tournaments so when I look at the entry fees times 3, it adds up.

The difference in sanctioned and non-sanctioned is only the points you would receive. Doubles are not rated due to obvious problems.

By running this non-sanctioned I thought we would pick up more non-PDGA members, no $10.00 fee.

Also, we won't have to deduct the fee per player. All of this adds up to bigger payouts.

We could consider a trophy only option. To my knowledge we haven't offered that in this area in recent history.

Honestly, with running the 3 City Champ tournaments, now running GCD and getting ready for our A Tier in Pawhuska and then the NT, I pretty much decided to inflation proof the event and keep the prices the same.

With that said, this one is set but it is YOUR club. The members need to dictate how we price, how we pay out and some people really need to step up and run some of these club events..

That is the best way to have input...

Here are prices from the non-sanctioned Okie Doubles Wayne and Click run,

Pro's usually want to play for more $$ and the am prices are mixed, some are higher and some are lower.

OKIE DOUBLES , 2008
. . . . . . . . . Aug. 23 � 24 . . . . . . . . .
Oklahoma City , America

A Non-Sanctioned , Doubled-Up , Partner-Style BLAST of DISC GOLF !


ENTRY FEES are per Team :

All Pro Teams : $90

All Adv Teams : $80

Mixed (Coed) : $70

Amateur (Intermediate) : $70

Novice (Recreational) : $60

Junior : $40

Mike, If you look you will see that I do not play many tournaments anymore. Alot of the reason is the cost of the tournaments. I really think that by charging so much we will not see the casuals ever step up to play in these events, Plus we loose many of the experienced players. If the prices are low enough you will have to turn away players, on the other hand if the prices are to high, you will not get enough players.

I have not done the research, but I would guess that the numbers are down as compared to say 5 years ago. I do know that the division I typically play in there used to always be a dozen or more players in most of the tournaments. Now there is usually less than half that number.

I just looked up a couple of tournaments in this region to compare prices,
Duncan Hillclimer C tier advanced $45.00.
Kan-U-WyCo C tier $35.00
College Station Open C tier advanced $ 27.00
Jefferson Barricks Open C tier advanced $35.00

I am sure I could find many more examples,but that should be enough to make you wonder if we are overcharging around here

As for running tournaments, I know how much you guys give of yourselves to run these things. I really want to THANK YOU for stepping up to run them. BUT it is not something I want to do. I would end up going postal on some very deserving person :o

I understand what your sayingJames.

Keep in mind our prices are per team so it will cost each player 1/2.

I thought keeping the prices the same as last year was a good thing. Non sanctioned will save a bunch of people $10.00 and we will be paying the players the normal per player fee instead of the PDGA..

Input is always appreciated..

pretty bad when a non sanctioned tourny cost more than a B tier half is 50.00 plus 5.00 for acepot per person total per team 110.00 split that still higher than than a sanctioned one olso ther will probably bee no trophy again this year it is not allways about the payout trophys mean alot and last longer. This will make alot of people happy because I will not play any more tulsa club events because prices are out of control. Pretty bad when the president of the PDGA can run A B tier for 35.00 and still give away 2 disc to everyone including pros how is this possible??? Trophys have gone away I know they cost but even the ones dan made would be ok but this year is all about the pros may next year the ams can support the ams not the pros may I might be wrong but this is how I feel about it .you cant get more casuals with higher prices you are probably going to loose some long time players !!!!!

What place trophy's would you expect? 1st, 2nd, & 3rd for all divisions including juniors or just 1st place only for every division?

Why don't you just go down to the trophy store and buy one with whatever you want on it like I do? /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

BTW Richard, I personally like to see you out there playing because I like to see the grimace on the faces of the others on your card as your "cooler" affect slowing drains away their ability to compete. ;)

I thinnk that if there are going to be trophies, first, second and third should be given out to any division with 5 or more players. 4 players would get 1st and 2nd. 3 or less 1st only.

The prices have been the same for years... How does the TDSA have the resources and strength that it does? Fundraising events like this one. That's why at ANY given time we can produce a course, $2000 - $2500 to give away at the OO etc. etc. etc.

Comparing The Pres of the PDGA event to this is apples to bacon... for obvious reasons.

I think I remember you two going to TDSA Admin meetings and then fell off... make your way back and foster change, growth and value with us. :cool:

Trophys are a nice change... Imagine if Coda saved his from every event... Mini Storage would be $100.00 :D

Why don't you just go down to the trophy store and buy one with whatever you want on it like I do? /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif




like this one

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k266/garyE500/new%20folder/trophy.jpg

Advanced Junior Master??? You forgot Ninja Legend.

We don't need any more new courses we need to try to get more players we don't even get to use all the ones we have there are so many casual players more than regular ones . Yes for years I have said prices were to high joe i have been around along time they used to be less with nice trophys and i used to run for administrator but the always voted for the new young guy so i gave up because my opinion dont matter any more .

Richard, while your conerns are valid, I think you are not looking at the bigger picture. First, everyone can not be pleased. Second, what Joe was referring to was not necessarily putting in new courses but that by going the way we have, we have increased the total number of players around town. Granted a lot, if not most, will never play a sanctioned event but they play and they tell their friends. Some of these golfers do convert over to competitive play, we have new ones coming in all the time. The best example of this was the County's Untied Way Charity event. I have never sees so many new faces and some of those keep coming back.

I think Tulsa should offer a trophy only event, with much less entry fees. This is the only true way to see what the Am players really want. The numbers will tell the final story.

The other problem I see is that there are just so many events now, that a player must selectivly choose their events, unless he is independtly wealthy, or at least single. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif BY doing this the better events will survive and the others will just be memories.

Let me ask you a question Richard, is it just the cost or the cost vs value aspect of it. For instance, USDGC is somewhere around $270 for entry. If you were given a spot would that entry drive you away or would you consider that a reasonable price, considering what the event offers a player?


In the 5 or 6 years I have been playing, I have seen the TDSA grwo from a blip on the disc golf radar map to a club that is now nationaly recognized. From a club that couldn't harldy pay for their club picnic to a club that can now do major projects. I do however feel that before any new courses are considered that ameneties need to be added to our existing courses, such as benches, tee signs, trash cans, bag holders, ect..........

With the major growth the club has experienced, there will be some growing pains, as we are seeing now, with you and some other OLD TIMERS questioning entry fees. Again, this is a valid question that you , as a member haver EVERY right to ask. ;)

The only other thing I could say is that if you feel a tournament has an entry that you feel is too high or of no value, voice your opinion, as you have and don't play the event. If they were giving away an new basket for every division winner or a shot at $10,000 or a new car, I don't think you would question the price.

So is it Value or Price you are looking for? They are two very different things.

Remember the old saying, you get what you pay for. ;)
And if you don't feel it was worth it, then don't buy it again.

The prices have been the same for years... How does the TDSA have the resources and strength that it does? Fundraising events like this one. That's why at ANY given time we can produce a course, $2000 - $2500 to give away at the OO etc. etc. etc.
<font color="red">And where does this money come from? The Am's. If we keep sucking at the same teat, it will run dry eventually. </font>

Comparing The Pres of the PDGA event to this is apples to bacon... for obvious reasons.
<font color="red">I guess I need some clarification on this, because it is not obvious to me </font>


I think I remember you two going to TDSA Admin meetings and then fell off... make your way back and foster change, growth and value with us. :cool:

<font color="red">I used to be an administrator, But my term was up, and I did not want to run again. As far as I know Richard has never been to an Admin meeting. </font>





The point I was trying to make in my original post is that in order to grow the sport we need to get lots of new people involved, And in order to do that we need to keep the cost of tournaments down to attract new blood....

OK I am through...back to your regularly scheduled program :D

James, I don't disagree with reduced fee tournaments to attract more AM players but I think some more thought may need to be put towards it. Since the costs of everything associated with a tournament have gone up. Are you saying the club should have a break even philosophy? Or should the club be allowed to make a profit for the benefit of the club? If so, how much profit is enough?

This problem is one that has gone on forever. Ams supporting pros will continue as long as AMs demand a payout. And it will continue as long as we the players are the only true sponsors of events and the PDGA continues to force added cash requirements for the pro divisions. It has to come from somewhere. Outside sponsorship is the answer for the Pro side but it hasn't happened and I don't see it happening with only a few dozen pros and no galleries at events. For the Am side, as soon as they stop demanding these huge plastic payouts, then maybe entries can be dropped. Even if the Ams are not supporting the pros, there is still a huge financial commitment from a TD to make sure he has merchandise on hand for payout.

I guess the only way to know for sure is to have an Am only, trophy only, low entry event and look at the numbers when it is over. You are right in stating where 95% of the money comes from, AMS! And in my opinion the Ams have gotten value from their support over the last 5-6 years.

Lets see, if they hadn't supported the club, there would be no 2006 Am Worlds, no new baskets or tees at Dovillio, no Red Hawk, No Black Hawk, no Pawhuska (they heard about from worlds), no Owasso, no Bristow....ect......

With the growth that we have had, it has created other benefits that haven't been considered, such as those I just mentioned.

It still comes down to the fact that as long as there is no out side sponsorship, Ams will conintue to support about every thing. But we have to be carefull, if the Ams choose to no longer support the system, then were are we then?

James do you know of any other Teats available? /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

If you're an Am but don't have access to chime in, feel free to post over on

http://discgolfer.ning.com/group/tulsadiscsportsassociationtdsa

And I'll copy it over here.

i used to run for administrator but they always voted for the new young guy so i gave up because my opinion dont matter any more .



Wow....That's strange Richard because I'm an old guy and I got voted in the first time I ran. :)

I had Chris Hicks as my campain manager though. :D

I'll bet his knees were sore after that campaign. :D

Actually if you compare four rounds of DG at TDSA weekend mini prices including pot &amp; CTP vs GCD prices it breaks down like this.

GCD / TDSA Mini per player cost:

Pro: $70 vs $48 = +$22
Adv: $55 vs $32 = +$18
Am: $45 vs $32 = +$13
Rec: $30 vs $32 = -$2

So your newbie�s actually get a $2 discount, player�s pack, Ring of Fire, &amp; the big tournament experience.

Since it�s non-sanctioned I wouldn�t rule out the idea of $5 optional one per round mullies.


As far as a trophy only event, why would a newbie want to pay anything to compete against 30-40 other guys for 3 top trophies when you can garantee aleast three out of that group will bag down for the "ego" win? :confused:

I WANT MY STINKING PLAYERS PACK MAN!!!!! :mad::D

Not sure about that question? Why do Newbies now pay $25 + to compete in a tournament? Would there be more if it were only $15?

As for the bagging down, that is the exact reason we need a local ratings system for our mini events. This would prevent a current non-rated player fom bagging after about 3-4 rounds and would establish a rating for him. Or for the local minis go back and installl some type of bump rule. Win your division 2 times and you're moved up to the next division. This should take care of most of those that will never join the PDGA but will play every local mini there is.

Your course on the mountain is the worst course in town for bagging. You'd think the TD could do something about it. :o
But it seems he just continues to look the other way as to not jepordize his huge Am pool payout. :p

I disagree because a lot of people that play Am in sanctioned events will play Pro at a Chandler mini because they have more confidence on a short course (example: Hinds ;)) and feel the playing field is more level.

That's why thank's to my political advisor, Chris Hicks and the TDSA, we voted to jack up the PRO fee to drive some of them back into the " Support Furdog's Booze Supply Fund " division. :)

It' pays to be politically connected buddy. ;)

I am a newbie, just mailed my TDSA dues in today, and I think that the biggest thing that kept me from playing in an event was intimidation. I went out to Hunter and watched a round of the City Championship and now I am not so intimidated to play in an event. Everyone was friendly and promoting the sport. I did not know their were recreation and novice divisions. So my point is you need to find a way to get us newbs out to an event. Once you can do that I think there will be more people like me that will come out and play.

It seams like it is all about the players pack you take it away and nobody will play it dont have to be all about what do i get if i play. I have played tourneys with no players pack and low priced I have played an A tier for 35.00 so dont try and tell me the club can't do it for less!!!!!!!!!

Maybe we can reduce cost by cutting all of that expensive payroll that comes with a tournament :o

Every dollar either goes back to the players the club or to the PDGA.

100% in am and usually more in pro.

But, prices may be to high. Based on the turnout at the ice bowl maybe charity is the key.

I am a AM that recently started playing in tournaments on a regular basis. I would like to say that I would MUCH rather be playing for plastic that I would be using on a regular basis rather than a chunk of wood... Not too mention getting a hot stamped disc from the tourney I just competed in would be a much cooler trophey on my wall. Though the metal keychain trophy's I have seen are very cool cause you can put them on your bag and hearing the clinking of multipe ones could send a strong message to your opponent. All this talk about lowering prices to attract more AM's doesn't seem logical too me because as I believe Wise said " you get what you pay for" and if I am working all week to attend a tourney would'nt I rather pick one that is going to give me my biggest bang for my buck? Finally dropping the price of a tourney from 25 to 15 does not seem to be the answer I could probably collect enough beer cans from the coarses around town to make up the difference...

Maybes you can mail a few dollars so we can clean all the sticker residue from all them stickers all over the baskets and tee signs
And maybe replace a tee sign at mclure that one of your stickers ruined ;)

Word on those tacky [censored] stickers. 7 years of making stickers... still have yet to deface tee signs with them.
:mad:

Well put. It is nice to hear all sides. I know when I was an AM I loved getting the plastic due to the fact I was losing or making taco's out of discs daily. However I do have about 3 boxes of trophys out in my shed now (2nd and 3rd place trophys only look good on the mantle for a week or so) :D

But first place ones stay on the mantle alot longer you may not win all of them but when you do the trophy means more than the plastic

This thread was supposed to generate excitement about our upcoming club tournament.

It always amazes me the combination of teams. I remember thinking "I didn't think they knew each other and they are on the same team"..

Let hear who is playing and start a little trash talk...

It is Green Country Doubles, it is fun, it is for the club...

However I do have about 3 boxes of trophys out in my shed now (2nd and 3rd place trophys only look good on the mantle for a week or so) :D



I won 2nd place trophy in Rec at a Twisted event before. Thanks Joe! :)

As a TD that�s really my gripe about having trophies and if you noticed the one�s Marie and I give out for CS are nothing but a cheap $3 or $4 picture frame with some type of photo shopped tournament design which by the way Lil�Moose has to deal with hours and hours of my drunken butt telling her to change this or change that. She deserves an award of her own. We offer 1st place only for advanced and Am only but have 1st, 2nd. &amp; 3rd for novice and all age groups in the male and female junior divisions because they probably appreciate it more. We print juniors 2nd &amp; 3rd depending of what age and number of players at the tourney. For you advanced and Am�s that want a trophy for 2nd or 3rd, just remember, only the top dog gets to wear the crown. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Richard. After watching you cash in the same division and collect big stacks of plastic over the years I can understand why you would want trophy only. You and Hutch have probably reinforced the foundations of your houses with the stuff and you really don�t want to pay for anymore.

Personally I wouldn�t pay $50 to play advanced because I know I have no chance at cashing and a $10 or $15 valued players pack is not going to encourage me to donate $40 or $35 in trophies or plastic to you bullies. To me $25, $30, or maybe even $40 for four rounds and a nice dated tournament disc that I throw or can hang on my wall feels better and is more than I can get out of a regular TDSA mini.

As a TD I might be willing to offer a trophy only option if those that wanted it would be willing to register and pay their entry 6 weeks in advance so I wouldn�t have to order plastic inventory for you. What in your mind would you be willing to pay Marie and I for our time and efforts with having to put up with you all weekend? ;)

BTW, if I were to sponsor the total Pro Master GCD entry for you and James as a team would you be willing to take the trophy only and give me 100% of any cash you win? You both would have to pass a physical and pay me back should one of you drop out due to medical reasons or partner in-fighting. :D

No partner. I guess I'll put on my Sonic change belt and just walk around to make my money. :D

Pay my half of the Pro Master entry and I'll be you're partner and you will probably make twice your money back just by calling "dollar" on my putts. People on our card might even pay to watch us argue also and see the grimace on your face. :cool:

Best reward of the whole deal,.....if we DON'T finish DFL in Pro Master it will be a historic victory for us and a lifetime of public humiliation for whomever we beat. :cool:

That may just be the plan Buddy. We could disrupt everyone on our card just by being ourselves, no added mind games needed. :D But if I pay your entry I keep any winnings. :p

Teams will be trying to pay off the TD to not be on our card or even near our card, what a great fund raiser. :D

You just don't get it I never cared about the plastic I play for the fun of it and it gives me something else to do and hopefully the win but if I should win . The trophy still means alot more !!!!!!! Also at the price of the new plastic the stacks are not so big !!!!!

You need to gain a few computer skills and make sure you reply to the correct person. :p

How many Am Master tropies does one guy need? :o

BILL PENNINGTON AND DAN BOUGHER TO DEFEND THEIR MASTERS WIN FROM 08...

Did anyone ask you if we cared? NO we didn't. :o

I guess once you find a good mule to ride you should stay there. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

How many Am Master tropies does one guy need? :o



I can agree with that. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Mitchell's Event History:

2008 / 1st in 6 of 6 Adv. Master / 1st in one Adv. Grand
2007 / 1st in 4 of 6 events / The other two were second.
2006 / 2nd in 3 of 5 events / Must have been a bad year.
2005 / 1st 1 time and 6 2nd in 9 events
2004 / 1st 5 times / 2nd twice / 1 3rd place / 8 total events.
2003 / 1st 2 times / 2nd 4 times / 7 total events.

And these are only the sanctioned events.

I count 19 1st place finishes as an Am.

No telling how many as pro in TDSA minis. :confused:

How big is your mantle buddy because it sounds like you have a trophy fetish.

As Daffy Duck would say�..�That is despicable!�. :mad:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_DQNumca3YWw/SUZRblFc4ZI/AAAAAAAABHU/J9n4cC2mGsY/s320/daffy-duck.jpg

Maybes you can mail a few dollars so we can clean all the sticker residue from all them stickers all over the baskets and tee signs
And maybe replace a tee sign at mclure that one of your stickers ruined ;)



Jerry I assure you that we are taking care of the residue and will see what we can do about the tee sign at McClure. I have about 1000 stickers in the hands of God knows who but I am carrying some acetone and a straight edge in my bag. As far as sending you some money I would much rather take you out for a beer so that I can apologize for all this sticker mess in person.

I posted my earlier comment hoping that it would be beneficial information for you and TD's alike. I am sure it is hard to see things from the eyes of someone relatively new in the sport. Hope to talk to you soon.

Disc golfers don't drink beer, silly!

Alfredo

I am just giving you a hard time about the cash
I know your doing the right thing
but I will take you up on the beer and I would love to play a round of golf with you

Jerry

That sounds great. Anytime you want Jerry.

Alfredo

I hate to bring up a hopefully dead subject but my 2 pennies.. I got a trophy (glass plate) 2 yrs ago in GCD, i have yet to throw it. I would prefer plastic. TNT already knows my only complaint has been to give out a even number of discs in a doubles payout. I am looking forward to next week. And I know there will be a new Rec division champion...

BILL PENNINGTON AND DAN BOUGHER TO DEFEND THEIR MASTERS WIN FROM 08...

Did you guys really win last year?I only remember Curt and I beating you guys 3 out of 4 rounds. :p

Doesn't matter were really not concerned about you guys
but we are thinking about the rookie masterbater Chris Hicks and whoever his partner is.I heard he spanked some master butt at the City Championships.

Whats this nonsense about entry fees being too high.I remember paying 45 to 60 bucks in 1992.If you want a cheap friendly round of golf play a mini.If you want a fantastic weekend playing a well run tournament on some of the best coarses in the country then pony up the $$ and be thankfull that its in your backyard and you don't have that extra driving expense.

Sugar Ray??????????? [censored], hell has frozen over! :D

Hicks only got me once in the city series, the other was mine. You guys need to watch out for me and FurDog, and pray you're not on our card. :o:D Oh and youmight want to bring some ear muffs.

Well said on the entry thing. I still say players are not complaining about the amount, they're complaining about value. Two totaly different things.

Nice to see you on the board Ray, nice to see at least one OKC player even owns a computer, let alone knows how to work it. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

BILL PENNINGTON AND DAN BOUGHER TO DEFEND THEIR MASTERS WIN FROM 08...

Did you guys really win last year?I only remember Curt and I beating you guys 3 out of 4 rounds. :p

Doesn't matter were really not concerned about you guys
but we are thinking about the rookie masterbater Chris Hicks and whoever his partner is.I heard he spanked some master butt at the City Championships.

Whats this nonsense about entry fees being too high.I remember paying 45 to 60 bucks in 1992.If you want a cheap friendly round of golf play a mini.If you want a fantastic weekend playing a well run tournament on some of the best coarses in the country then pony up the $$ and be thankfull that its in your backyard and you don't have that extra driving expense.



YOUR STEALING MY THUNDER RAY....YOU REMINDED ME OF YOU AND CURT BEATING BILL AND I 3 OF 4 ROUNDS AND THAT WE ONLY BEAT YOU BY 1 STROKE IN THE END....BUT STILL IT WAS THE FIRST TIME EVEN IN DOUBLES THAT I / WITH A PARTNER / BEAT RAY WALKER AT THE END OF A TOURNEMENT....
ARE YOU AND CURT PAIRING UP AGAIN THIS YEAR?

Curt was not going to play because of a wedding thing but your partner Bill called him up and lit his fire.I will bring a first aid kit because he will burn both of you.He has been training hard and playing well all winter.You have Bill to thank for this torture that you are about to receive...

Uh oh.....Looks like grilled Donkey burgers will available at this years GCD. :)

Why is this tournament not sanctioned?

I sure wish I could have played this year.

Why is this tournament not sanctioned?

We knew you couldn't make it... So we are keeping it low key :DI can't make it but what time is tee off? Can we play the mando's and when do we tee after lunch??? :D

Curt was not going to play because of a wedding thing but your partner Bill called him up and lit his fire.I will bring a first aid kit because he will burn both of you.He has been training hard and playing well all winter.You have Bill to thank for this torture that you are about to receive...




Goog luck, I fired Furdog as partner and found a new one. I found a guy who as at the end of his masters careeer but I think he may have a few shots and a few putts left in him.
We'll try to give you a run for your money.

You know he's old since my number is 21242 and his is 3566.

I may have to get him a stroller but we will push through it. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

You may need the stroller not your partner. Great team!

Dave and Mitch teaming up!!!! Oh well hopefully 2nd place pays well.

Did someone mention bringing earmuffs....

I fired Furdog as partner and found a new one.



I was not fired. I honorably resigned and chose to step aside after contract negotiations broke down and you chose to bribe Mitch (a guy whom I must admit has a slighty more talent than me) with this years tax return check and your promise to wear your kneepads all weekend and make like a Hoover for the old man. ;)

I probably would have stuck with you but I can't remember a two day tournament that you have been able to show up on a Sunday for. :o:p :D

Yeah but you promised we would have a golf cart at least for Mohawk and if not we would drive the holes in your Avalanche.

Now you found a sugar daddy in Mitch and you've got visions of trophies in your eyes. :p

You [censored]!!!!! :mad:

Not trying to jinx the tourney but I hope a single rain cloud follows your card the whole weekend!!!! :D

Well, seeming as I can post again here, that must mean my membership is current for the first time since `05. I am in need of partner-age for the am division this weekend. I make no promises about my performance this weekend. If someone was looking to play am and needs someone to carry, let me know.

Holla!

I know of a few possibilities if you want to send me a PM, keep it on the down low and all..

The weather this weekend should be pretty nice with temps around 60, not too shabby!!!

Lets get some excitment going folks, it's Green Country Doubles!!!!

I'm excited. :D

For the Pennington/Bougher team, Bill had better be on his game since Dan averaged about 918 for all of his rounds in Texas this weekend. :D:o:D

Thanks for letting me out of the negotiations, I was hesitant anyhow with having to pay your entry and knowing you wouldn't show up on Sunday until the second round. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Slim "Cherry Bomb" Moyers, will you be making an appearence at Chandler this year, if so, will you be bringing the Moyers' special? :D

ooh.. might you be speaking of a small, red fruit that resides in a jar of syrup and some "other" substance?

if so, i could go to sam's and get a couple of jars started this week.. that way, they will be nice and perfect by c-stock XXV.

Mike Conners is looking for an Advanced Player.

Dave I think it was best that you were fishing out discs at the first City Championship Tourney at McClure because I played a heck of a lot better there than when you beat me at Dovillio :p.
Sammy had asked to be my partner last year, saying whenever I turned masters he wanted to play doubles with me, but I have called him and haven't heard anything back. Plus my partner/defending champ from last year, Melissa isn't playing this year.
So it looks like I might be sitting this one out Although now that I'm getting married next month it might be good to know now what sitting one out for the team feels like /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

If you want to play, don't count sammy out, he usually shows up. You do need to practice sitting out though and get used to it. As soon as you get a house and kids, its over buddy.. We might see you out on a Sunday, if she goes to her mothers, but she'll take your game with her. :D

All I know is that for sanctioned events in Pro Master, you and I are 1-1-0. Even up Buddy! And with your wedding quickly approaching...................C YA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Twoputt - you're just jealous of Hicks cuz when I played with HIM, we actually played well and WE WON!

Thats because you finaly learned how to play. :o

I hope Hicks pairs up with Sammy, he'll need him. :D

Yea, you might be right!

But we still beat Team Le-Slack that year!

You did good last year but I don't think its too hard to beat an oriental taco. :D:D:D

anyone still sans-partner?

anyone?...

bueller...... bueller.....

hey commish, if you want to play advanced with a 906-rated married bum, i'd move up. to carry your bags as long as you carried my game. or lack thereof. :)

Dude.....The last time I saw you you weren't so "Slim" so I imagine not only will you carry his bag but you're carry his groceries and cook lunch too. ;)

me?

cook?

haha, you forget i'm married. my bachelor-esque cooking ways have me banned from my own kitchen due to ruining cookware and making messes. i'll carry his/her bag and have my wife cook lunch. hows that?

Okay...Riddle me this...Who is playing this weekend? I've only heard talk about the old guys and who they're carrying around and whatever old people do.

Hunt and Mr Crowley will be teaming up to take down Team Wii Field. Who else is coming out? I want to see a lot of faces.

peace

I like Trophies or Medals any day over plastic. Mainly because I can get plastic anywhere. I dont have the time or creativity to make or buy myself a trophy as the "dog" would suggest. PLus I dont have alot of trophies yet, only 2. I like my swag ya know. Sorry I am really late getting in on this but I am a rt. Driver so I am not always on here like I'd love to be. This was in response to Wise's Cry out to an am for an opinion. :p

Team Bedlam will be there this weekend. I can't believe my partner is an aggie!!! I feel Dirty.

I need rod davis number

I need rod davis number



don't know rod davis.. but you have a pm

I feel just as dirty but we can call a truce this weekend.
It seemed to work out at the lodge when I was with mitch!

The tournament stamped disc and the payout arrived today.

All I can say is SWEET!!!

The stamp was created by our own Gary Nail..

The payout has Star Boss, R-Pro Darts and all kinds of cool disc.

Lets get some people motivated here.

It's Green Country Doubles time.. The only scheduled club events at the Hawk's this year..

Doing the old school alternate shot at McClure on Sunday, it's going to be fun..

Oh yeah, Red Hawk 6-6-6 format is:

1-6 Tough Shot
7-12 Alternate Shot
13-18 Best Shot

I will be at McClure Friday from 5:30 to tee time for Big Dave's Friday night monthly moonlight mini for sign-ups.

Or, Sign -up Saturday morning at Mohawk from 8:00 to 9:00...

Unsanctioned fun, bigger payouts, see you there..

well I need a partner for advanced masters

Jerry just find a adv partner, unless your happy with fighting for 2nd...
hey that was pretty good trash talk, I will have to keep that up!

Come on mutt you know YOU can,t beat me!!

Its DOUBLES... not singles, Not that it would matter....lol
I sent you a PM...So there is a possiblity of you winning. lol

quiet one, I hope ya'll have more than 3 teams.. :p

Really, I'd hate to seem them finish DFL. :o

I hope they dont finish dfl either! lol

Ok let's end the DFL chatter and allow me to introduce the board to the GCD mixed doubles champions....drum roll please...........Shana Swanson &amp; Dough Duff!

Ok let's end the DFL chatter and allow me to introduce the board to the GCD mixed doubles champions....drum roll please...........Shana Swanson &amp; Dough Duff!

Only cuz the reigning champs won't be back this year to defend! :o

I talked with Slack earlier and he will be doing his super fantastic luch deals both days.

Mohawk will be sandwiches and Sunday it looks like he is going to set up at MC's house so he can do the infamous taco bar.

All of that on top of playing the tournmant with Thong..

The weather is looking better, sweet payout, sign ups tonight at McClure and tomorrow morning from 8:00 to 9:00 at Mohawk.

Free gate entry until April 1st so come on out...

I think The Taylor's will own you Duff. You better hang on to Shawna's coat tail.

Mmmmmmmmmm........Tacos :D

Hey everybody, I have two things,
1st - Don't forget tonight is night golf action at 8pm at McClure tonight.

2nd - I know it's pretty late to be asking this question but... DOES ANYBODY NEED A PARTNER FOR THIS WEEKEND?
If so call me at 830-5617.

Peace!

Play night golf and sign up for GCD all in one convenient location!!!

Hey everybody, I have two things,
1st - Don't forget tonight is night golf action at 8pm at McClure tonight.

2nd - I know it's pretty late to be asking this question but... DOES ANYBODY NEED A PARTNER FOR THIS WEEKEND?
If so call me at 830-5617.

Peace!


It is never too late, after all we are disc golfers I figure some teams will form about a minute afer sign ups end. :D

What a great day!!! The weather was perfect and the DG was solid!!!

Thanks to my helpers Carla Barton, Kim Click, Brad and Jennifer HOI. Kyle Wilkes helped me out of a bind right before the 2nd round, thanks Kyle :)

Players meeting for everyone, both flights, at McClure at 9:00 in the morning. Flight A will play best score at Dovillio first and Flight B will play alternate shot at McClure. We switch in the afternoon..

Any questions please call me, my # is on the tdsa contact tab.

Also in the Slack Thong vs Devan and Wagle battle, Devan/Wagle gave them 50 strokes for the full tournament, so far Devan/wagle have made up 31 strokes of the 50.

They need another 19 to tie, 20 to win...

Here are the other results:


MPO Kyle Wilkes Coda Hatfield 47 46 93
MPO Adam Hunt Josh Crowl 48 45 93
MPO Chris Wagle Devan Owens 45 51 96
MPO Johnny Thompson Mordecai Fisher 53 51 104
MPO Billy Lund Chris Hutchinson 55 55 110
MPM Dan Bougher Bill Pennington 50 47 97
MPM Chris Hicks Sammy Nielsen 50 47 97
MPM Dale Patterson James Robideux 50 49 99
MPM Ray Walker Curtis Harris 51 53 104
MPM Dave Wise Mitch McClellan 53 52 105
FW3 Chris Claring Christine Claring 50 63 113
FW3 Mike Click Kim Click 52 61 113
FW3 Sean Young Callie Young 54 61 115
FW3 Dough Duff Shanna Swanson 53 65 118
FW3 Wayne Forest Marci Joha 55 65 120
FW3 Barb Paske Terrill Paske 57 64 121
MA3 Aaron Calvert Dev Bohn 50 60 110
MA3 Ryan Workman Kelly Watkins 56 58 114
MA1 Dave Pennekamp Andrew Treat 55 47 102
MA1 Paul Dorries Aaron Triska 53 50 103
MA1 Tom Townsend Dave Townsend 57 48 105
MA1 James Patton Rodney Carpenter 56 54 110
MA1 Sal Fellanto Kyle Razmus 58 54 112
MA1 Ronald Smith Thomas Davis 56 57 113
MA2 Bryan Hinds John Barton 47 56 103
MA2 Shane Gray Drew Custer 48 55 103
MA2 Joe Jones Emmitt Finch 47 59 106
MA2 Matt Razmus Leroy Finning 52 54 106
MA2 Brad Evans Davey Adams 50 57 107
MA2 Michael Adams Mo El 52 56 108
MA2 Kenny Adams Jared Johnson 55 55 110
MA2 Harry Hinshaw Jr Jarrod Hinshaw 51 60 111
MA2 Jesse Carlisle Jason McDaniel 51 60 111
MA2 Mike Conners Thien Le 52 59 111
MA2 Brad HOI Michael Middleton 53 59 112
MA2 Scott Whittman Eric Rainey 51 62 113
MA2 Randy Wilson Ak Brattin 51 63 114
MA2 Matt Treat Jordan Hobson 55 62 117
MA2 Chief Snake Skinn 60 58 118
MA2 John Tillman Mike Coberly 58 62 120
MA2 Jay Slack Thong Le 56 71 127
MG1 David Frazier Brad Zimmerman 60 57 117
MG1 Wayne Gregory Bud Johnson 64 63 127
MM1 Joyle Deering Tony Walker 50 53 103
MM1 Jerry Stacey Richard Mitchell 56 50 106
MM1 Scott Wilkinson Daryl Johnson 57 49 106
MM1 Billy Swanson James Diel 56 54 110
MM1 Cameron Kasperit Mike Moore 54 57 111

Wise at DFL after the first day????

Looks like it might be time to break out the Lifesavers and start thinking of excuses. ;)

wise at DFL for the weekend!!!!

Green Country Doubles was another big success thanks to the players and all of the people who pitched in, in various ways.

We had pretty decent weather. Both afternoons were near perfect.

Congratulations to all the winners. We saw some really tight battles.

There were a few decisions I had to make as a TD. Thanks to everyone involved in the various issues for being understanding. Those decisions can be pretty tough sometimes..

With all that said, here are the results:

MPO Kyle Wilkes Coda Hatfield 47 46 46 45 184
MPO Adam Hunt Josh Crowl 48 45 43 49 185
MPO Chris Wagle Devan Owens 45 51 47 57 200
MPO Johnny Thompson Mordecai Fisher 53 51 49 53 206
MPO Billy Lund Chris Hutchinson 55 55 51 54 215
MPM Chris Hicks Sammy Nielsen 50 47 47 49 193
MPM Dan Bougher Bill Pennington 50 47 49 51 197
MPM Dale Patterson James Robideux 50 49 51 54 204
MPM Ray Walker Curtis Harris 51 53 47 53 204
MPM Dave Wise Mitch McClellan 53 52 50 53 208
FW3 Chris Claring Christine Claring 50 63 57 60 230
FW3 Mike Click Kim Click 52 61 62 60 235
FW3 Barb Paske Terrill Paske 57 64 63 58 242
FW3 Sean Young Callie Young 54 61 68 62 245
FW3 Dough Duff Shanna Swanson 53 65 66 62 246
FW3 Wayne Forest Marci Joha 55 65 66 61 247
MA3 Aaron Calvert Dev Bohn 50 60 75 58 243
MA3 Ryan Workman Kelly Watkins 56 58 71 58 243
MA1 Dave Pennekamp Andrew Treat 55 47 49 51 202
MA1 Paul Dorries Aaron Triska 53 50 48 53 204
MA1 Tom Townsend Dave Townsend 57 48 56 56 217
MA1 James Patton Rodney Carpenter 56 54 54 54 218
MA1 Sal Fellanto Kyle Razmus 58 54 52 57 221
MA1 Ronald Smith Thomas Davis 56 57 54 57 224
MA2 Shane Gray Drew Custer 48 55 55 53 211
MA2 Harry Hinshaw Jr Jarrod Hinshaw 51 60 55 49 215
MA2 Bryan Hinds John Barton 47 56 55 58 216
MA2 Matt Razmus Leroy Finning 52 54 57 56 219
MA2 Brad Evans Davey Adams 50 57 57 56 220
MA2 Michael Adams Mo El 52 56 57 55 220
MA2 Kenny Adams Jared Johnson 55 55 58 53 221
MA2 Joe Jones Emmitt Finch 47 59 59 58 223
MA2 Mike Conners Thien Le 52 59 58 55 224
MA2 Randy Wilson Ak Brattin 51 63 60 53 227
MA2 Brad HOI Michael Middleton 53 59 59 57 228
MA2 Scott Whittman Eric Rainey 51 62 58 58 229
MA2 Jesse Carlisle Jason McDaniel 51 60 58 61 230
MA2 John Tillman Mike Coberly 58 62 58 52 230
MA2 Chief Snake Skinn 60 58 58 56 232
MA2 Matt Treat Jordan Hobson 55 62 65 57 239
MA2 Jay Slack Thong Le 56 71 72 60 259
MG1 David Frazier Brad Zimmerman 60 57 56 60 233
MG1 Wayne Gregory Bud Johnson 64 63 59 70 256
MM1 Scott Wilkinson Daryl Johnson 57 49 51 50 207
MM1 Joyle Deering Tony Walker 50 53 53 53 209
MM1 Jerry Stacey Richard Mitchell 56 50 53 60 219
MM1 Billy Swanson James Diel 56 54 57 55 222
MM1 Cameron Kasperit Mike Moore 54 57 54 60 225

THANKS MIKE FOR RUNNING A SMOOTH SHOW...HAD FUN ALL WEEK END...LOTS OF GREAT GOLF...GREAT WEATHER...CONGRATS TO ALL THAT PLAYED.

Thank you Mike, Thank you Carla and a Huge thanks to Mitch for being my partner, we had a blast. :D The Pro master field was stacked and they played like it. Solid.
Conrats to Sammy and Cris! ;)

And a Big congrats to the former PRO masters that decided to rape the Adv Master field. :o

I would like to PLEASE ask that I receive NO MORE body checks, shoulder bumbs or body grabs from behind.! :mad:

Had x-rays this morning. glad to say, nothing but bruised ribs and no golf for a week or two. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Yeah I'll bet when you signed up for a Disc Golf Tourney you didn't know a hockey game was going to break out before you started. :D

You got that right. :o Also strange that everyone who body checked me cashed........... :(

You got that right. :o Also strange that everyone who body checked me cashed........... :(



So that's the secret to cashing...I will remember that! /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Thanks Michael Treat and everyone who helped make this tournament possible.
Maybe we need to have a volunteer day where all the players do something for the volunteers because the disc golf wheel would not turn without them.
Thanks to my partner Sammy for showing up, having me as a partner, and playing some amazing golf. Also I had a blast with everyone on my card for both days - the whole group was very encouraging. Playing doubles is just a lot of fun :)

Agreed! :D

Especially for those that played Pro master, even if they were DFL, it was a PRO dfl. :o/msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Yeah all that talk about you firing me as your partner an still you finish DFL. Even I could have done that for you.

I'll bet you and your partner spent more money on the last chance raffle than your whole entry fee combined. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

If you team with me next year we can bag down into Adv Grd. Master and terrorize those old farts. ;)

hey now lets not go and make life any more difficult for me than it already is