Instead of starting a thread on just bad ideas for or from the pdga I figured I would make it more constructive.

List something you think is a good idea and something you think is a bad idea that will help shape the pdga!

Good Idea: market the pdga through a sign at each disc golf course.

Bad Idea: Charge $10 per non pdga player at B tiers.

Good Idea: the PDGA and staff should "officially" run all future PDGA WORLD championships

Bad Idea: making more rules for tech standards on discs without any rules or procedures for enforcing them.

Good Idea: hire a statistician to gather scores each week from events in order to have a weekly update for player ranking!!


Bad Idea: current rating system that penalizes players for playing Harder courses and puts out low ratings when there is not enough top ranked players at the events.

Good Idea: hire a statistician to gather scores each week from events in order to have a weekly update for player ranking!!


Bad Idea: current rating system that penalizes players for playing Harder courses and puts out low ratings when there is not enough top ranked players at the events.




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Good Idea- Make worlds a "premier" event by having $1 per entry go into the purse as many series' have done for quite some time.

Bad Idea- Taking $3-$5 per entry and not having a list of where the money goes.

Good Idea - posting positive suggestions for the PDGA.
Bad Idea - posting negative comments at the same time.

Sounds good in theory, but it loses something in execution.


Good Idea: Honey, that dress would look beautiful on you.
Bad Idea: It would look even better if you lost a few pounds.


Both comments are true and well meaning, but somehow I don't think the "good idea" will get the desired attention.

They're probably not paying membership fees for their "honey".

Everybody pays at some point ;) No free lunches. You'll pay for sure if you make that second comment too.

I like the idea of hiring a statistician for weekly updates. i also like the idea making Worlds a premier event with a entry fee.

Idea: Make marketing and promtion of premier events (NTs/ Majors) the PDGAs number one priority. Do everything humanly possible to make these events bigger and better to promote those quality events.

Another idea...(may not be good, persay. whats good in my opinion may suck in someone elses)

Create stricter guildlines in professionalism at every PDGA event large or small.
Disc Golfers should look and carry themselves like professional athletes/ golfers.

Going with the comment above, there is no sense in promoting or marketing a defective product...

Good Idea - posting positive suggestions for the PDGA.
Bad Idea - posting negative comments at the same time.

Sounds good in theory, but it loses something in execution.


Good Idea: Honey, that dress would look beautiful on you.
Bad Idea: It would look even better if you lost a few pounds.


Both comments are true and well meaning, but somehow I don't think the "good idea" will get the desired attention.



Maybe I missed something,,, were there negative posts or are you anticipating some??

I guess I don't get your post,,, did you mean the "Bad Idea" wouldn't get the desired attention?
In my opinion your Bad idea example is much more likely to get results and the whole example is very indicative of what some see as a problem with the pdga.
Oh no,,, we cant use red ink on Johnny's homework he might get self conscience. Spare the rod,,, you spoil the child,,,!
I don't mean to insinuate the pdga and its board are spoiled but I think the pdga and the USA government are not too different ( on a SSSSOOOOOO much smaller scale :)) and change is need and accountability is what we should be after.


If someone is unhappy about their honeys' weight and thinks they need to lose a few lbs, wouldn't it be better to talk about it as opposed to just pretending it's not a problem for them?

bottom line is,,, if you are in a relationship and not happy about something that can be changed, you should talk about it,,, same goes for the dues paying membership driven organization you belong to.+
Just cause we took a few polls last year doesn't mean we stop asking members how to improve ourselves.

Would it be better if everyone that had a problem with something that the PDGA was doing or the direction we are heading would either keep it to themselves or better yet,,,, just stop renewing their memberships.
In my opinion " not discussing things" or doing anything about the things you do not like is MUCH more of a problem for yourself and for the relationship or organization you belong to!

The idea for this thread was to get people talking about the good and the Bad,, you know,,, get it all out in the open!
I think a lot of current AND EX members feel that there voices were not or are not heard.


I agree if you set up a complaint department thats what you are going to get,,, complaints.
I'm fairly certain companies used to do this to find ways to improve their business, I really don't see the harm in constructive criticism.
I'm guessing there's not many positive comments on the comment cards at restaurants and such, but for some reason they are on the table,,, HMMM I wonder why???
Now if its just Bit*%ing thats a different story, but even a whole thread for nothing but complaints could even have a positive side to it!
To sit back and pretend there are no problems and that everything is fine or ask members not say anything BAD about the PDGA seems shortsighted.

I know the PDGA (WE) are doing great things with limited amounts of $$$$, but that doesn't mean we shouldnt be working all the time to improve.
With the right kind of membership drive we could have 10 times more members and we will one day soon.
When that day comes it will be best if we had a few more kinks worked out. One way to do this is to ask and listen!
Hopefully the PDGA is not as self conscience as a "honey" may be about weight.
I don't see the problem of asking "whats wrong" and listen to what people have to say.

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10. Constructive criticism is welcomed, however derogatory or negative posts about the PDGA and/or it's members are prohibited, and will not be tolerated on this association funded forum. Constructive criticism is the process of offering valid and well-reasoned opinions that are intended to improve something. It should be given in a polite and helpful manner, rather than an oppositional one, and is usually backed up with an offer of possible solutions. It should not attack the recipients traits, character, affiliations, spelling, grammar or, even minor misconceptions that are moot to the central point.



Noone is forcing you to read this thread Discette.

Come on ppl, we are falling way away from the point here. Lets please not turn this into another pointless and neverending debate about what is correct or what isnt correct in giving opinions.
Use ur best judgment......
And get back to giving good ideas to the PDGA before i get sick to my stomach from reading endless BS from ppl that get their feelings hurt on the forum.

Good idea- giving good ideas on a forum made for giving good ideas....

I agree if you set up a complaint department thats what you are going to get,,,



Good Idea: PDGA should create a complaint department.

Bad idea: People will continue to use the MB as if it were a complaint department.

Oh wait, PDGA already have a complaint department and people still DO use the message board as if it were a complaint department.

Good idea 2: Stop using the MB as a handy-dandy complaint and whinery department

Bad idea 2: People who consider joining PDGA, potential sponsors and even current members who look at MB will have second thoughts about joining, supporting or becoming more involved after reading all the whiney, boorish bickering and selfishness.

good idea: allow others to use shared resources according to the rules, even if you yourself dont like how they use those resources. one size does not fit all.

bad idea: whining about whining

Good idea - being more transparent
Bad idea - being more transparent :D

Good Idea - someone else's Bad Idea
Bad Idea - someone else's Good Idea :D

you're right -- and there is an awful lot of whining about whining...

apparently we are not capable of staying on subject....
Bunch of drama queens.

Good Idea: unite
Bad Idea: divide

While I feel it is a good Idea for the Pro players to start their own players union, I think its necessary they all remain PDGA members and work closely to help develop the sport at all levels.
You can be a member of a national Car club and also a member of a national Corvette club.

Good Idea: having a national pdga membership drive soon.
Bad Idea: waiting too long to launch a national pdga membership drive!

Bottom line is we need more members and to find a way to retain current members.

Good idea: retaining members
Bad idea: losing 30% of your members

good idea: allow others to use shared resources according to the rules, even if you yourself dont like how they use those resources. one size does not fit all.

bad idea: whining about whining



Good idea: Understanding that if you think others need to change, maybe you need to change, too :)

Bad idea: Rampant hypocrisy!

Good Idea: having a national pdga membership drive soon.
Bad Idea: waiting too long to launch a national pdga membership drive!

Bottom line is we need more members and to find a way to retain current members.



making entry into the membership more affordable would be a great way to attract more disc golfers to become PDGA members... in today's economy, $50 or $75 is a big chunk of change for the average income young adult ...

i would like to see PDGA event fees increased $1 and bare bones membership fees dropped to $35 and $50 respectively. perhaps it would be even a better idea to drop all membership fees to $40 (for both Am.s & Pros). this would remove at least one disincentive (and there are many) from moving up from am to pro...

there could be a $80/$100 level of membership that cuts user fees and gives an added perk like a wooden mini with ones PDGA number and the PDGA logo....