On line registration will be up for the 09 Ironwood soon.
Check out the information at www.pfds.org. (http://www.pfds.org.)

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Ironwood 09 Fundraiser Discs are here

The new Fundraiser Boss and Destroyer are here and looking good. They have the tourny logo as seen here. They are $20 and I will have them available at the monthlies and the Icebowl. They went fast last year and I only have 25 of each. Make that 24 of each. Can't wait to throw mine.

I just wanted to take a minute and say something.

Sidney and I have talked about some of what is going on with his TD work on this tournament. I am impressed. The menu for lunch is kick butt. The logo is very sweet.

Good job Sidney. The brothers Olcott are doing the work we need done. Thanks buddies.

You're Ironwood Open Trophy will be getting put together soon. Keep a couple of those discs for me. I at least want a Monarch, most likely a boss too.

when is online registration gonna be up? lots of guys from wv want to come up so they can register online... thanks!

I just picked up the March issue of Flying Disc Magazine at Barnes and Noble Booksellers in Cranberry. As you know, the PDGA no longer is sending this mag to its members. You can subscribe directly to FDM, but the new issue on the racks now.

I'd recommend calling your local Borders or Barnes and Noble to be sure they have it stocked. If they don't or are out of supply, ask them to carry it.

This issue is much broader in its scope of disc sports, with a too heavy (IMO) dose of disc dogs. Marcus was interested because there were some articles on Ultimate and some how-to pieces on disc golf. The Delaveaga course in Santa Cruz was featured as was hole 11 at Victory Park used at K-zoo Worlds in '08.

as was hole 11 at Victory Park used at K-zoo Worlds in '08.



Yuck - I thought that was one of the worst holes on that course. Playing on a hogback only a dozen feet wide, any disc that faded left landed in a deep pond and wasn't retrievable unless you wanted to go swimming. After the tunnel, any disc that turned over to the right too soon went down a hill and onto the green of hole#10 where it could take out players putting there.

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when is online registration gonna be up? lots of guys from wv want to come up so they can register online... thanks!



The online registration is up and running. When looking at the PDGA schedule just click the icon next to the Ironwood Open, fill out the form and BAM, You're Signed UP!!!

I registered on Friday! :)

Hey guys, off topic question here. I went to make sure I was registered, and am! While I was on the page I saw that I gained some type of points from the CAN-AM cup from last summer. Any idea how those points were assigned? I was 6-3 and was ranked 4 from last in my flight. Was the ranking assigned according to how your team did? Thanks if anyone answers.

-mark

The points assigned for the Can Am Cup, because it is a team event, are based on Whatisit's place in the tournament. You got a point for every team you finished higher than in the final standings.

By the way, the Can Am Cup will be held August 29-30 at Brown's Farm. Let's get at least four teams from Western PA this year!

how do you sign up or get on a team for the can am cup or what not...not sure how to go about it but I am interested... thanks

TEAM IDLA BABY!!!

On line registration will be up for the 09 Ironwood soon.
Check out the information at www.pfds.org. (http://www.pfds.org.)



On-Line Registration is available on the calendar page of the PDGA website. Click here (http://www.pdga.com/tour-schedule?startMonth=4&startYear=2009). Currently the PFDS website is going through some growing pains. We hope to have it completely updated soon with current tournament information.

Avoid the $10 late fee! Golfers who register for the Ironwood Open on April 12 or after will be subjected to a $10 late fee.

Competitors can register online at pfds.org or they can print the registration form and mail it to the address provided. Other options would be to register in person at the Moraine Monthly this Saturday, March 21. Reserve your spot now!

I have been talking with Nelson Bennet and I believe that he will be coming down to play the Ironwood.

Hello to all the golfers playing the Ironwood Open.My name is Kona Kaufman and I'm flying in from San Diego to play insane Moraine..In search of somebody that might have extra room
in there car that"s playing the tourney..I'm staying in the Beechview area but can get a ride to wherever needed.No
problem pitching in for gas.Looking forward to the tourney,and if any one can help out it"s much appreciated!Can be reached @ [email protected] or 619-507-5156.Thanks alot.
Kona K

Tournament format will be great for out-of-town travelers:

Saturday (4/18) ~ 2 rounds of 18 holes
Sunday (4/19) ~ 1 round of 18 holes

Last year we had players on the road before 2:00 pm!

The par-66 Lakeview course at Moraine State Park offers three sets of tees. Competitors will play the same set of tees each round and the pin placements will not change during the event:

Gold Tees (1000-rated) ~ Pro divisions
Blue Tees (950-rated) ~ Advanced amateur divisions
White Tees (900-rated) ~ All other amateur divisions

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2008 Ironwood Open results (http://www.pdga.com/tournament-results?TournID=7482)

2008 Ironwood Open ~ Course Statistics (http://www.pdga.com/course-ratings-by-tournament?TournID=7482)

Moraine State Park ~ Course Statistics (historical SSA data) (http://www.pdga.com/course-ratings-by-course?RatingCourseID=3004)

Hey Kona
I know a lot of people playing the Ironwood here in Pittsburgh live in and around the city, but I am not far from Beechview. If you still need a lift to Moraine let me know and I can call and set something up.-Josh

Hey jJosh
I am still looking for a ride and any help is appreciated.Can't wait to play and enjoy the beauty of a world class course!!!
Thanks alot Josh. Kona

Scott Heintzleman is signed up with the wrong PDGA #. 20021 is listed. It should be 25021. Hence the Philidelphia PA. 20021 is a Matt Gillis.

sign up before it's too late. Lori and I signed up last night as well as Gibby. Sid also said that he had 5 or so entries come in through the mail.

Which means Wags, Jim Wilson, Josh Charlton, KB and other locals need to hurry and sign up!! I think by Sunday morning we should have at least 72 signed up if not the full 90.

I updated the list as of 11:45am Thursday. 48 people are signed up and I would assume we will get a good bit more on Saturday.

Chrissy - I put Lori as Advanced Female...Is that correct?

As of today(Good Friday) we have 30 spots left. This weekend at the Lakeview Course Championship I'll be collecting registrations. If you are unable to get me or the TD your registration you will be charged a $10 late fee. Don't delay...go the Course Championship or go to the PDGA calendar and click the icon next to the Ironwood Open where you can register on line.

What happened to the registration list online??? It's all messed up right now.

And I believe we have 70+ spots filled as of Sunday.

I accidently uploaded the old form. You must have saw it in between uploads. It's all good now.

The list is up to 74 competitiors now. So if anyone else would like to sign up, sorry your paying an extra $10.

11 Spots Left!!! We still have room for all those people who like to wait until the last minute to sign up! :D So, you got to pay a late fee...who cares! It's still going to be worth it. It's Moraine State Park for crying out loud! How can you not want to play this tournament? Great course, good people, tasty lunch, and great course!

Reserve your spot in the field.....sign up online today by clicking here. (http://www.pdga.com/event?TournID=8571)

KURT, Wags wants to play. He just called me this morning and said he definitely wants to play. I gave him your phone number. Save him a spot!! I'm headed to Moraine in a few minutes for one last gold round before the IO

Yep, already talked to him and he's good to go...

That leaves 10 spots available.

Flying in to Pittsburgh to play the ironwood open this weekend.Looking to share a ride with someone who might
have room in there vehicle.No problem helping out with gas money.Will be in the Beechview area of the burghand could get a ride to wherever needed in the morning to meet..Any
help is grateful..
Kona Kaufman 619-507-5156

Man I cannot wait to be off work, went out today and did some putting, 60% of the time it worked all the time. Just a heads up and to be fair...you guys are in trouble. Anyone have any plans for Saturday night???

ATTENTION:

The Ironwood Open is FULL, We had a large amount of people sign up last night.

Too many actually...

Once I get the names of players who signed up last night, in order that we recieved them, the rest will be put on a waiting list.

PLEASE check the Registration list to see if your name is on there. If you signed up and don't see your name, we'll be in touch.

The current waiting list:

Kevin Kearney
Kevin Daney
Sean Malone

I'll post the complete registration on-line as soon as I don't have my real job to do. Which will probably be soon!

66 yesterday from the golds. I think I'm finally ready.

66 yesterday from the golds. I think I'm finally ready.



Do you think or do you know you're ready?

I know. 68 today with horrible drives and 4 missed 20-footers. I AM READY!! Saw Speakerbear out there practicing today also.

66 from the golds - bogeys on 4 and 6 birds on 7 and 18
Chris,you are just lucky i'm playing with the other old guys.
Nice to see a full field and good luck to all - hope you feel the pain at moraine. Whats the weather supposed to be like?

Whats the weather supposed to be like?



70 degrees and Sunny on Saturday...65 chance of rain on Sunday.

Goodluck everyone, wish I could be there with you.

Chrissy I hope you pull this one off.

how many extras did you throw Speaker? Let's see if you can beat your 71,71,77 of last year :)

Wish you were here too Libby

NONE - see you saturday!

none? I find that hard to believe when you have a bag that carries 50 discs.

Tomorrow (Friday) is the day we put the "finishing touches" on the Lakeview course at Moraine. Sid, KB and myself plan to meet at the course around 11:00 am to set up the tent and repair/extend the OB rope on holes 2, 15 and 18. We also plan to give the tee blocks a fresh coating of paint (Leo has replacement tee blocks for the three which are missing) and we will also be marking a "casual relief" area for the wet spot on hole 2. I hope to make new distance markers for holes 6 and 15.....I'll try to build those items tonight. Anyone who has the day off tomorrow is more than welcome to join us for course prep.....then we play golf, baby!

Wags is going out today to clean up debris on the hillside of hole 16 and I plan to bring my pole saw to the course this evening and take down some low branches here and there. Overall, the course is looking really nice. If anyone reading this plans to practice today or tomorrow, please be on the lookout for any litter on the course. We've done a pretty good job about picking up the few bits of trash, but with the weather being nice I'm sure there will be lots of casuals on the course before the tourney. I've started carrying plastic grocery bags so I can pick up any trash I find during the round. I really dislike seeing litter on our beautiful Lakeview course....especially before we show it off to visitors from out of town!

Thanks to everyone who has pitched in on the course improvements this spring.........especially the mules. You know who you are. :)

Jerry, I don't think you have to mark anything on hole 2? Just leave it as is and play it as casual water. But I don't think you need to rope it off or anything???

Casual Water: Bodies of water other than those that have been specifically designated by the director prior to the start of the round as out-of-bounds or those that have been specifically designated by the director prior to the start of the round as not being casual water.

though I guess you could mark it off and put in a drop zone??


804.01 Special Conditions

A. Rules governing special conditions that may exist on the course shall be clearly defined and disseminated to all players prior to the start of the tournament. All special conditions shall be covered in the players' meeting. Each player is responsible for adhering to all points covered in the player's meeting.

B. The drop zone may be utilized in special conditions. The director must announce prior to the tournament how it is to be used and if a penalty throw is to be assessed. If no penalty is announced prior to the tournament, none will be assessed for use of the drop zone in special conditions.

Chrissy, we decided after the course championship that marking a drop zone on that hole would be a good idea. Reason being, if you land towards the top of the casual water and take relief, up to 5 meters directly in line with the basket, you could still be in the muck.

With a drop zone, there will be no penalty but distance to the basket.

you can make a drop zone, but I will still stand in that muck :) It has never bothered me before, but for some they might like to keep their GoreTex shoes dry.

So the question now is, if I were to land in the mucky area, do I have to use the drop zone or can I still play it where it landed?? I know if it was casual water, I could play it where it landed, but what if a drop zone is marked, can you still play it where it landed, or do you have to use the drop zone??

The drop zone will be used only if the player doesn't want to get his GoreTex shoes wet. It's up to the player, they can either play it from where the disc is at or from the drop zone with no stroke penalty.

REMINDER:

Registration starts at 7am until 8am.

Players meeting - 8:15am

Tee off - 8:45am

I would like to suggest that if you're signed up and are late, after 8am, your spot will be given to the first person on the waiting list. This is the TD's call but thats what I'm suggesting considering I'm doing the sign ins. We have 18 groups of 5 and can't delay the start for someone who sleeps in. So, be on time, PLEASE!

my GoreTex shoes already leak... however i plan on throwing past the muck on hole 2 anyhow... if i don't its usually because i am way off course anyhow.. leaving my disc no where near the much to even use the drop zone.. so i shouldn't have to worry to much about this...

Jerry i will be heading up there after work tomorrow to play a round.. ill bring a bag with me if i see any trash ill be sure to grab it.. also throw any debris off the fairways..

Good Luck everyone this weekend.. i hope everyone plays well!!!!

So the question now is, if I were to land in the mucky area, do I have to use the drop zone or can I still play it where it landed?? I know if it was casual water, I could play it where it landed, but what if a drop zone is marked, can you still play it where it landed, or do you have to use the drop zone??



Kurt already answered this up-thread, but players will have the option of either playing from where their disc lies in the mud or playing from the drop zone. The muddy area will be marked as a casual relief bunker. The drop zone will be toward the back end of the bunker, thus, players are penalized distance if they choose to use the drop instead of play from the mud.

I think the casual relief area will be more of a factor for the pro men playing the gold tees. All other divisions play either blue or white tees so there should be fewer of those players ending up in the muck. And it's definitely mucky this year....

Thanks to Wags for clearing up the wood pile on the right side of fairway on hole 16. He also helped me prune the olives right of hole 3's basket. Looks great, Dave! :)

We're gonna have a crew at the course all day today, starting at 11:00 - 11:30 am. Here's the agenda:

~ Erect large tent near parking lot
~ Mark casual relief bunker & drop zone on hole 2
~ Extend the OB rope on holes 2 and 18
~ Repair the OB bunker rope on hole 15
~ Replace missing tee blocks on holes 6, 15, 16
~ Paint all tee blocks
~ Place additional signage on the course
~ Play disc golf

Lori and I will be headed to Moraine soon. WE just finished tearing all the shingles off of our roof and now a crew of 6 amish workers are here and building/repairing our roof. Now I'm just in the way, and we should be getting out of here ASAP.

I'm sitting at my desk wondering why Chrissy is getting in the way. I'll be heading for Moraine directly after work...wait a minute...Directly after I drive to New Kensingtion to pick up Stella, then to Moraine.

We decided against a casual relief bunker and drop zone on hole 2. Players who land in the mucky area of hole 2 can obtain relief in accordance with rule 803.05 Obstacles and Relief. (http://www.pdga.com/rules/80305-obstacles-and-relief)

The course looks fantastic and is ready for action!

Good luck tomorrow everyone. I am excited about my first PDGA tournament!

Jerry where was the 71, 74 this weekend????

congratulations to Lori who shot 25 strokes better this year than last year!!

Jerry,

Freaking awesome!!! Way to light it up.

I like the fact that Jerry shot 5 strokes worse than last year and still won :) I shot 5 strokes worse as well and finished 3 places better as well :) Thanks to all the 1000 rated players who did not show up this year.

You know what they say, you play to the level of your competition most of the time. I am sure even if there were 1000 rated players Jerry still would have prevailed.

Way to go!!!

true. I'm worried about these Pittsburgh Ams who stepped up there play this weekend. There were some great rounds from the blue tees as well as the white tees. Pittsburgh really needs more competition in the area and we need some more people to help push the current pros to play even better.

And I think from now on for the monthlies we need to start playing the GOLD TEES!!!!

and now to try and remember how to putt. 17 missed putts from under 25 feet!!! 7 double bogeys on Saturday, none on Sunday, but 7 missed putts Sunday. It was so bad I ended up switching my putter after the 6th miss.







It's all about confidence................

Are you refering to me? haha My last round was truly amazing. Started on hole #9 and missed a 20 footer for par. After that something just clicked in my mind. Then proceeded to birdie, 10, 11, 13, 15, 18, 2, 3, 5, and 7. Only other bogie was hole #12 which in that pin didn't bother me.

My other two rds where just as good except for taking doubles on 4 and 6 the first two rds.

Hopefully my confidence will stay where its at. I was slamming putts all weekend. If I continue to play as well as i did, I see myself making the jump before the end of the year.

the sooner you move up, the quicker your game will improve.

way to go dub and shawn for taking 2nd and 3rd! i'm planning on this event next year for sure.

But I like people calling me a bagger!!!

If you're planning on coming up next year...SIGN UP EARLY!!!

How about coming up for the PFDO in August?

i'd love to (and might) but i'm getting hitched in the fall. vacation and $$$ are being allocated accordingly.

your no bagger :) What you have to remember is even though you shot good for the weekend, you need to be consistently shooting 970 rated rounds to have a cash in B and C-tiers. And at least a 990 to cash in A-tiers.

The 945 - 970 player has it rough. Too good to be an am, but not quite good enough to cash in Open. That is the range where you see alot of people start dropping out of the sport because they get so frustrated spending money at tourneys.

Yeah, I know i'm not. I'm only a 914 rated player. I hope that moves up to around 930-940 by the end of the year.

And you are exactly right about the 945 - 970 rated players.

I wonder why the scores (http://www.pdga.com/tournament-results?TournID=8571&year=2009&include_ratings=1#O pen) do not provide round ratings for the intermediate players? I called Sid about this issue on Monday evening and he said he would probably have to upload the scores again. Strange....

I already talk to Jeff LaGrassa about this.

His Response....

"The online calculator needs at least 10 propagators with ratings above 800 playing a given layout to calculate accurate ratings. These competitors WILL receive official ratings after the next ratings update after the results are looked at by a human and accurate ratings can be calculated. But with less than 10 propagators, the unofficial ratings have the chance to be off significantly so they are not provided at all.

Unfortunately, this usually happens for smaller and lesser skilled divisions like Intermediate / Recreational / amateur grandmasters, etc. who may be the only divisions to play short tees. However, I have seen it happen at tournaments where, for example, only the Open played a set of super pro tees and there were less than 10 Open players and propagators."