What is the ruling when an Amateur gets an ace on a hole with a specified Ace pot ($500) during a sanctioned PDGA event. The ace money would be put up by the TD, and presumably comes from the event, and is reported to the PDGA as part of the total payout for the event. Do they get the cash? Do they get $500 worth of merch? Do they get a pat on the back and a handshake? If they accept the cash are the considered a pro? If so and there player rating is below 930 can they still play Am2 or are they only allowed to play Am1 in Non Major PDGA events? Any guidance would be helpful.

Thanks,
Ventura Tom

i always thought ace pots did not affect am status. i'm usually wrong tho

The ace pool is part of the total value but not part of the pro payout. It is a sidegame. Amateurs can win cash at sidegames and still be amateurs. If the TD advertised a merch payout to the amateurs he can do a merch payout to the amateurs. If he did not, well, he can still do it, but some amateurs won't forget that kind of bovine excrement.

I think hitting Ams is unnecessary and cruel, but getting an ace during a tournament would be a gas.

So the foursome of intermediate players playing in front of your group stays on the green to record their scores. After watching them point at the trees they hit and where they went OB, you lose your patience and drive while they're looking for the pencil. Your Buzz skips, off the back of the guy bent over pulling his discs out of his bag still looking for the pencil, and CHING! into the basket. So yeah Am hitting and Ace during a tournament should pay cash plus merch. :cool:

sorry, not an ace. the disc is dead where it hit the guy. :(

sorry, not an ace. the disc is dead where it hit the guy. :(



I don't think so.

803.07 Interference
A. A thrown disc that hits another player, spectator, or animal shall be played where it comes
to rest. A thrown disc that is intentionally deflected or was caught and moved shall be marked
as close as possible to the point of contact, as determined by a majority of the group or an
official.

ill concede there, but if he is throwing before the other group is off the green and hits someone, shouldnt he be stroked? and therefore not take a 1.

technically i think its a courtesy violation, and just a warning the first time, but it seems like there is serious possibility of serious injury and a warning doesnt seem to fit, if it was intentionally thrown whne they were on the green.

ive got it,

803.05 F
a player who purposely damages anything on the course shall receive two penalty throws, without warning, if observed by two or more players of the group or an official. the player may also be disqualified from the tournament in accordance with 804.05 A

if said intermediate player is now part of the course, i would assume that he would be ''damaged' by hitting him, and the throw was intentionally thrown before the player cleared. ??? hmmm?? hmmm? too ridiculous?

The ace pool is part of the total value but not part of the pro payout. It is a sidegame. Amateurs can win cash at sidegames and still be amateurs. If the TD advertised a merch payout to the amateurs he can do a merch payout to the amateurs. If he did not, well, he can still do it, but some amateurs won't forget that kind of bovine excrement.




06 am worlds they paid all aces with merch payout

the ace pot was not an extra cost or extra choice in the registration therefore the aces hit by ams were not side action , if the td has the option in front of the players to pay extra to participate in an ace pot then they the players have an opportunity to compete for cash.

thanks for the laugh , an ace is an ace if you dont get the cash sell the merch and hit another am.

The Ace pot is an 'extra cost'...maybe not an 'extra choice'. It may be a 'forced extra cost'...you don't pay....you don't play...but it is still considered an extra cost outside of the payout. I personally love it when the TD forces everyone to pay $2-$5 into the Ace Pot...and I even like it when said TD splits the Ace Pot between Pros and Ams to give both sides a chance to hit one...or throw off for the cash afterwards...while he's busy trying to re-add score cards while you are saying 'I took a 4 on 5, a 3 on 6...man that 2 on 3 was sweet but that 8 on 10 was a bummer'..instead..you are out talking with the other 90 people AWAY from him trying to get lucky for a little extra gas money. You can shoot like crud all day long...but if you win that Ace Pot throw off at the end of the day...well...it's a winning day in the end.

The ace pool is part of the total value but not part of the pro payout. It is a sidegame. Amateurs can win cash at sidegames and still be amateurs. If the TD advertised a merch payout to the amateurs he can do a merch payout to the amateurs. If he did not, well, he can still do it, but some amateurs won't forget that kind of bovine excrement.




06 am worlds they paid all aces with merch payout



WEAK .. I Hope 09 Worlds doesn't do that.

'08 Worlds paid ams in cash $$$$$$$$$
i Know for i am no longer a stranger in the ways of a worlds ace pot.

The ace pool is part of the total value but not part of the pro payout. It is a sidegame. Amateurs can win cash at sidegames and still be amateurs. If the TD advertised a merch payout to the amateurs he can do a merch payout to the amateurs. If he did not, well, he can still do it, but some amateurs won't forget that kind of bovine excrement.




06 am worlds they paid all aces with merch payout



WEAK .. I Hope 09 Worlds doesn't do that.




I believe it was a PDGA decision not a Tulsa decision.

It WAS the PDGA's decision, the club was over ruled. They stated that the ace pot was included with their entry.