haroldduvall
Jan 23 2009, 03:34 PM
South Carolina's oldest tournament will upgrade to on-line registration this year. Registration for the 2009 Earlewood Classic will be at ZoneDriven.com this coming Tuesday, January 27th, at 9:00 A.M.

We will preload the ZD shopping cart to accommodate a waiting list. Each registration will be time stamped to the second to ensure that first come are added to the registration list first. All charges will be pre-authorized and not fully processed so that we may issue refunds to individuals that do not want to be on the waiting list. We will contact every individual that is on the wait list to determine whether they want to remain on the wait list.

Please note that all orders will automatically receive a confirmation of purchase. This does not provide any indication as to whether you are in the tournament or on the waiting list. Again, we will contact those that are on the wait list. The names of those who are in will be shown at pdga.com in the tournament section. A flyer for the 2009 Earlewood Classic will be posted soon at Columbia Disc Golf Club (http://www.columbiadiscgolfclub.com)

Thanks for your past and current support of disc golf at Earlewood.

Take care,
Harold

MTL21676
Jan 23 2009, 04:17 PM
Thanks for posting this info Harold and thanks to ZD to helping out this tournament. This is something that this tournament needed a while ago!

I'd like to thank my one time sponsor Zonedriven - they just saved me $16.00 for overnighting a check :D

bgwvdave
Jan 23 2009, 06:31 PM
Thank you very much for this information Mr. Duval and keeping everyone in the loop. can't wait to get back to columbia.

frogponddiver
Jan 25 2009, 06:56 PM
Harold,
Is the registration under Tournament Entries on Zone Driven?

bgwvdave
Jan 26 2009, 11:01 AM
Mr. Duval or whoever may know,
will the online registration thru Zone Driven be able to facilitate multiple entries with the same order or the same IP address? the coastal N.C. contingent will be brigning 4 people and 1 of us will not be at a computer at 9:00 a.m. tomorrow (he works outside). i have agreed to register him and myself. will i be able to do this? thanks for any information.

haroldduvall
Jan 26 2009, 02:10 PM
Steve, The registration items will be populated into the Zonedriven shopping cart ZoneDriven Pro Shop (http://www.zonedriven.com/proshop/) at 9 tomorrow morning.

Dave, I am told that multiple entries will not be a problem other than the extra time it takes to complete.

Take care,
Harold

davidsauls
Jan 26 2009, 02:48 PM
Thanks, Harold, for helping bring the Earlewood Classic into the 21st century. Having set a presumptive record for shortest time to fill a tournament by snail mail, we'll see if we can set the overall record tomorrow.

Earlewood fans should know that park construction projects will likely alter a few holes after this year's event. Perhaps for the better, but this is the last chance to play the course in its current setup.

bgwvdave
Jan 26 2009, 05:02 PM
Dave, I am told that multiple entries will not be a problem other than the extra time it takes to complete.

Harold


Harold Thank you for your timely Reply.


Earlewood fans should know that park construction projects will likely alter a few holes after this year's event. Perhaps for the better, but this is the last chance to play the course in its current setup.



Thanks for that tid bit David. I guess that will make this earlewood tournament even more historical :D

davidsauls
Jan 26 2009, 05:58 PM
....not to leave the impression that Earlewood will be completely revamped. The building will be torn down and replaced by one more than twice as big; how this will affect holes 1 & 10 is uncertain. (I gather the city kindly postponed demolition so we could use the building one last time). A paved walking trail will run through the park; anyone familiar with Earlewood can figure out that there's not a square foot of land where you can put a trail without affecting the course. Efforts are being made to make the amphitheatre more useable, as well.

It would be nice if everyone would pass along the word about online registration. We've tried to reach as many people as we can. Of course, we'll understand if you don't pass the word until after your own registration is confirmed!

bgwvdave
Jan 26 2009, 06:06 PM
....not to leave the impression that Earlewood will be completely revamped.


I hope you did not think i emplied this with my post? :D(i'm just kiddin dave thanks much for the information.)

MICHAELMART
Jan 26 2009, 08:53 PM
I sure am glad I decided to look at the website tonight. I happened to see my pdga card laying on the printer and decided to see if forum for EC had been started...I have no internet at work but one of my employees brings her laptop with wireless internet on it with her daily...THANK GOODNESS...Got my alarm set for 9:00 a.m. on my cell phone, and a calendar reminder at 8:00 a.m. so I can set an ADDITIONAL 9:00 a.m. alarm on my computer at work...How about you? Any bets up for how long before it's filled? I would say it will fill in 12 hours tops!

Edit: Does anyone know costs? I can't get flyer to pull up...Thanks!

Mikegdc
Jan 27 2009, 07:12 AM
Dude, 12 HOURS?
I'm bettn a little less.
I wish I could join you guys there(cant do it), and Harold, long time no see!
Good luck to everyone!

davidsauls
Jan 27 2009, 09:46 AM
re: flyer

At least a couple of people have been unable to download the flyer from the club website www.columbiadiscgolfclub.com (http://www.columbiadiscgolfclub.com)

I was one, but was able to download it from the state site www.scdgo.net (http://www.scdgo.net)

Bizzarre---they link to the same document---but if you have trouble with one, try the other. Or....just sign up, and you can get the details later.

MTL21676
Jan 27 2009, 09:48 AM
David,

What are the ideas for the changes after the construction?

I just don't know how much land there is to work with out there....

MTL21676
Jan 27 2009, 10:05 AM
It's up - was there right on time - and I just put 3 people in.

Great job ZD!

87 spots left :D

MelShuman
Jan 27 2009, 10:10 AM
I don't mind the $3 registration fee, but I hope someone will correct the 7% sales tax that it is charging in the online store.

MICHAELMART
Jan 27 2009, 10:10 AM
I'm in!

What's up with the extra $6 bux in fees? Flyer says $40, registration, $46 and some change...Yes, I'm playing Advanced this year...I don't play enough to play pro and when I do I'm not competitive...Playing all year in Advanced so we'll see what comes out of it...

Vanessa
Jan 27 2009, 10:15 AM
Anything for Earlewood .. but I do hope they'll straighten out the sales tax!

jmonny
Jan 27 2009, 10:17 AM
I think I'm in , where can I go to make sure?

haroldduvall
Jan 27 2009, 10:24 AM
I apologize for the Sales Tax. We will correct this, either before the credit cards are processed or through a refund.

Please continue to let us know what else you see. We want to continue to improve.

Thanks,
Harold

davidsauls
Jan 27 2009, 10:42 AM
David,

What are the ideas for the changes after the construction?

I just don't know how much land there is to work with out there....



I missed the last city/parks department meeting, but from the prior meeting:

The Parks department is moving their headquarters to Earlewood. Administrative offices, not the trucks & equipment. They will tear down the current building and replace it with one about 2� times the size, in the same general location. We've been told it won't adversely affect the course, but we're concerned about the hole 1 tee and hole 10---especially with the assumption that they'll put windows along the side of the building facing the hole 10 hyzer route.

On the other hand....this will give us better facilities, bathrooms (at least during the workweek), and perhaps better oversight of the park.

There is also interest in making the amphitheatre state more useable....which means staging areas off stage....which may compromise the hole 13 tee.

A separate project is a paved or rubberized walking trail, landscaped with native plants, running through the park. If we get some input, perhaps we can minimize the disruption, or even add some O.B. (picture a trail diving holes 1 & 9).

You're absolutely right that there is precious little surplus land at Earlewood. There's an area above holes 16/17 with room for a hole or two that we've used in local doubles and once in a tournament.

Of course, you know how it goes with parks departments. Disc golfers, like everyone else, have provincial interests in the course, and anytime parks departments start talking about changes, we're concerned. Sometimes merited, like Owens Field---sometimes the changes benefit us.

Which is about all I know or think I know. Again, I don't want to give the impression that it's a "farewell to Earlewood as we know it"....just that it's likely to be altered someone in the future, much as the amphitheatre seating took away the really severe rollers on hole 15, or the losses of some huge trees over the years softened the course a bit (hole 12 lost the last large pine that hyzer shots try to sneak around).

jmonny
Jan 27 2009, 10:44 AM
I think I'm in , where can I go to make sure?



harold can you confirm if my reg time was stamped, I went as far as I could go in ZD but I don't feel confirmed sorry thanks

bgwvdave
Jan 27 2009, 11:05 AM
I think I'm in , where can I go to make sure?



harold can you confirm if my reg time was stamped, I went as far as I could go in ZD but I don't feel confirmed sorry thanks


Monty check your e-mail. if you submitted it correctly you have a conformation on your e-mail.

secondly i am not seeing what you guys are as far as the sales tax is concerned. my entry cost me an even $43.00. No tax no shipping charges at all.

MelShuman
Jan 27 2009, 11:10 AM
It looks as if the sales tax is only being charged to South Carolina residents. I'm sure HD will get this straightened out.

DCC
Jan 27 2009, 11:10 AM
I think I'm in.....

I haven't got any email confirmation though.

jmonny
Jan 27 2009, 11:15 AM
Yeah Dave I got my Zone Driven Sports - Registration Details but no event info on it. Is that what I need? thanks

MTL21676
Jan 27 2009, 11:15 AM
It looks as if the sales tax is only being charged to South Carolina residents.



You guys give money to NC golfers all the time....is this kind of the same thing? :D

MelShuman
Jan 27 2009, 11:26 AM
Good one Robert. I agree NC has a HUGE advantage over SC in both the level and quantity of disc golfers. (We don't have a single 1000 rated player since Peckham dropped a few points). However, I've managed to take home a few NC $$$'s in my career. And those NC $$$'s don't come easy.

MTL21676
Jan 27 2009, 11:28 AM
You are a great golfer Mel - no doubt about it.

bgwvdave
Jan 27 2009, 11:45 AM
Yeah Dave I got my Zone Driven Sports - Registration Details but no event info on it. Is that what I need? thanks


? the e-mail conformation has an order number and a list of the Order's Content. this lets you know that what you ordered was placed and confimred. the first thing taht my e-mail says is Zone Driven - Order Deatils. also there is a lsit of what you ordered with the division signed up for and your PDGA #.

MelShuman
Jan 27 2009, 11:46 AM
Thanks for the kind words. You've got some game yourself. I've never thought of myself as any where near great, but every once in a while the magic happens and I think "Wow, I played that round pretty darn good". It's amazing when one of those rounds happens and I can't help but be amazed that players like Larry Leonard, Walt Haney, Brian McRee, Stan McDaniels, Michael Johansen, Schwebby, Alan Beaver and countless other NC golfers do it almost EVERY round. I'm always in awe of the skills a top level disc golfer displays. See you in Earlwood.

jmonny
Jan 27 2009, 12:00 PM
OK I got it, let's hope it was quick enough

bgwvdave
Jan 27 2009, 01:12 PM
Should be interesting. wonder if it is full yet?

charlessealey
Jan 27 2009, 05:34 PM
If the charge shows up as preauthorized on the credit card, but no email confirmation...does that mean I am on the waiting list? I have a very big and ugly brother that will kill me if he is not in and I want to see if I need to eat my last meal!! What am I talking about...he might eat me if he is not in. :D

DCC
Jan 27 2009, 06:01 PM
I didn't get an email confirmation, so I called Zonedriven to confirm. Sure enough, they had gotten it.

DNA_2
Jan 27 2009, 06:53 PM
I didnt get an email rither but on zonedriven it said that my purchase went thru

keithjohnson
Jan 27 2009, 08:29 PM
It's up - was there right on time - and I just put 3 people in.

Great job ZD!

87 spots left :D



I got Dollar's in at 9:03 AM, so he should be in, Unless he changed his PDGA # and then whoever is 26045 has a paid entry, because that's all my conmfirmation had on it and that's all that was asked for except my C/C info. I hope that everything is OK.

Keith

MICHAELMART
Jan 27 2009, 09:05 PM
I got my registration in at 9:03 a.m. but never got an email confirmation!!! I did get a confirmation on ZD so I better have gotten in...

EDIT: I checked my email again, checked my spam folder, and there it was! I'm in!!!!!!!!

Note: Per HD at 4:00 today, AM field was full as of 2:00 p.m. today...not sure what pro is looking like or how many AM spots were given

MICHAELMART
Jan 27 2009, 09:37 PM
I checked ZD.com, no registration link available anymore...I would say that means we're full in under 12 hours! No other bets were made so I would have to say that I win!!!

haroldduvall
Jan 27 2009, 10:08 PM
The Earlewood Classic is full. The registration list will be posted tomorrow. As best I could tell, there was no overselling, but we will double check tomorrow before finalizing the list. The registration will be posted at PDGA.com. We will re-open registration tomorrow for those who would like to get on the waiting list.

Thanks to those who registered today. Feel free to let us know how we can improve on the system.

Thanks,
Harold

MICHAELMART
Jan 27 2009, 10:39 PM
Who says Disc Golf isn't popular? We're more popular than Kenny Chesney!!! We sold out our Schin-dig faster than he can sell out the Colonial Center!...(Granted there is a 1:200 person ratio) but hey...what the heck!

davidsauls
Jan 28 2009, 09:06 AM
Thanks again, Harold, for handling the online registration for us.

One improvement we should be able to make in the future, from the local end, is to get notice out perhaps a week in advance, not just on the discussion board but to every e-mail we have on hand, to make sure everyone has ample notice. It was intended this year but an assortment of personal issues prevented us from doing so. Apologies if anyone didn't find out about it until it was too late.

johnbiscoe
Jan 28 2009, 09:59 AM
the biggest improvement that could be made would be going to separate weekends for ams and pros.

davidsauls
Jan 28 2009, 10:17 AM
the biggest improvement that could be made would be going to separate weekends for ams and pros.



This was discussed and given long consideration for this year, to the point of kicking around probable dates. Unfortunately, we have only a handful of staff and could not commit to two entire weekends.

You're right that it would be the best solution, and hopefully one we can implement in coming years.

jnosnevets
Jan 28 2009, 10:36 AM
David,

I recall some e-mails from James Lewismoss a couple years ago about expanding the course to areas on the other side of #18 and possibly near the railroad tracks where there is a SCDOT right-of-way. What ever became of that?

rickb
Jan 28 2009, 10:45 AM
The event sells out in about 12 hours.

It sells out a month and a half before it begins meaning you have that much time to do all the behind the scenes work.Player cards, figure out payout etc.

Almost all the registrations were by credit card. No repeated trips to the bank for deposits and dealing with checks. You know know how much money you;re dealing with.

Trust me when I say that there are 800+ other TD's around the world that wish they had this to deal with.

As for am and pro weekends. It works. If you're worried about staff. Usually the ams help out when the pros play and vice versa. Plus I'm sure there are folks from out of town who wouldn't mind pitching in also.

As for people not knowing in time. If you're like me, I've checked this board and the Columbia club site at least twice a day since the beginning of January in anticipation.
I canceled a business meeting yesterday just to make sure I was at the computer at 9. Folks that want to play this event know that it fills quick every year. It's up to them to make the arrangements to get in.

And a big thanks to Zonedriven for bringing Earlwood into the 21st century. Keep up the good work.

davidsauls
Jan 28 2009, 01:47 PM
David,

I recall some e-mails from James Lewismoss a couple years ago about expanding the course to areas on the other side of #18 and possibly near the railroad tracks where there is a SCDOT right-of-way. What ever became of that?



James,


I'm not real sure, in either case.

I'm not certain how firm the beyond-#18 idea was; I think it was just speculation. Chris and I spent an afternoon scoping that area out, but it's (1) pretty swampy and (2) would involve a significant-size bridge crossing the creek.

I really lost track of the other-side-of-the-tracks issue. The neighborhood association was working on a project to put and walking trail, gardens, etc., in, and to coordinate it with disc golf. We would not be able to get permission to cross the tracks so, at least for official purposes (like a tournament), it would involve walking through the neighborhood for 2 blocks (probably between holes 7 & 8) to pick up the other holes. (In casual play I'm sure people would climb across the tracks....there was once a bridge there). That parcel�s a little tricky with roads and the railroad....it could be perhaps 6-9 tough holes or 9-12 easy holes.

Truth is, despite any impressions to the contrary, I don't have that much to do with Earlewood any more. Stoney Hill takes up most of my time. I am (1) still the club treasurer and attend meetings and (2) the only person who does so and is on the discussion board----so I appoint myself as message board liaison and pass along what I can.

davidsauls
Jan 28 2009, 02:05 PM
We definitely know how lucky we are to prefill. On the Saturday morning we don't have to deal with registrations, checking PDGA status, etc---just quick sign-ins, and a handful of no-shows being replaced off the waiting list.

Ed's marvellous organization and experience masks the fact that there's just a few of us and, at least at this time, most of us have outside-of-disc-golf issues that prevent us from attending two separate weekends. Perhaps next year.

haroldduvall
Jan 28 2009, 03:24 PM
With the initial rush past, we will accept entries for the waiting list. Waiting list tournament entries will go on sale at Zonedriven at 7:00 p.m. this evening. My expectation would be for at least one person to come off the waiting list and into the event. For those who do not get in, we will refund the entry fee without any additional handling charge.

Thanks again for all the feedback. With this initial test under our belt, we look forward to offering this service to more events in the coming months at Disc Golf United (http://www.discgolfu.com).

Take care,
Harold

haroldduvall
Jan 28 2009, 04:50 PM
The Earlewood preregistration list is posted now in the Tour section at Earlewood Registration (http://www.pdga.com/tournament-results?TournID=8625) .

Take care,
Harold

Stoney Hill DGC
Jan 29 2009, 03:53 PM
March Madness "Match Play" Flyer will be posted soon for those who didn't get in or didn't get enough Earlewood rolls from the Classic.

haroldduvall
Jan 29 2009, 04:51 PM
Earlewood Registration (http://www.pdga.com/tournament-results?TournID=8625) is updated. All 90 spots are now assigned. The waiting list is:

1. Aaron Cunningham - MPO
2. Sam Patton - MM1
3. Scott Wallace - MA1
4. Michael Childress - MM1

Take care,
Harold

Chadk3878
Jan 30 2009, 01:10 PM
The event sells out in about 12 hours.

It sells out a month and a half before it begins meaning you have that much time to do all the behind the scenes work.Player cards, figure out payout etc.

Almost all the registrations were by credit card. No repeated trips to the bank for deposits and dealing with checks. You know know how much money you;re dealing with.

Trust me when I say that there are 800+ other TD's around the world that wish they had this to deal with.

As for am and pro weekends. It works. If you're worried about staff. Usually the ams help out when the pros play and vice versa. Plus I'm sure there are folks from out of town who wouldn't mind pitching in also.

As for people not knowing in time. If you're like me, I've checked this board and the Columbia club site at least twice a day since the beginning of January in anticipation.
I canceled a business meeting yesterday just to make sure I was at the computer at 9. Folks that want to play this event know that it fills quick every year. It's up to them to make the arrangements to get in.

And a big thanks to Zonedriven for bringing Earlwood into the 21st century. Keep up the good work.



I agree that their should be a Pro event and an AM event would help out a lot. This is part of the SCDGO point series yet majority of the South Carolina players, who want to play, are not able to even get in. Splitting it up with include everyone, who wanted to play and would benefit the club more as well as those looking to enjoy this tournament.

mynameisJonas
Jan 30 2009, 02:50 PM
The drawback to having seperate weekends is that it makes traveling and accomodations more challenging for the participants. On the bright side, I wouldn't have to arrange for a dog sitter. Happy Day at Earlwood Chad!

davidsauls
Jan 30 2009, 03:53 PM
It is a consideration, though minor, that if we split the event then Pros & Ams who wish to travel together, can't. Until the last 2 or 3 years, before demand skyrocketed, more players were coming from farther away and we knew of some who needed this travel arrangement. Probably less of an issue these days, or less important that the people who wish to play, but can't get in.

Separate weekends would give us the option to limit each event to 72 (no fivesomes), and give some of the better advanced players the choice of playing either event. I guess someone could play both if he really wanted to.

As I mentioned before.....this was given consideration this year, and perhaps we'll be able to have split events next year.

BrettByerly
Feb 19 2009, 09:05 PM
just about 2 weeks
wooohoooo!

BrettByerly
Feb 22 2009, 10:03 PM
can't wait to get my event done so i can come on my anual early spring pilgramage to EARLEWOOD

frisbee golf championship course of america?

Parman
Feb 23 2009, 05:16 PM
I'm playing Masters not Open. Does Ed read the boards? David could you fix this for me? Thanks in advance, Ant Gale #25828.

davidsauls
Feb 23 2009, 05:57 PM
Ed reads the boards from time to time, but does not post. Dave Cannon handles the PDGA reports for us, and I've emailed him to check on this. We meet tomorrow, and I'll try to remember to double-check on it for you.

davidsauls
Feb 23 2009, 06:00 PM
A long time ago, I used to think of the Earlewood Classic as one of the true signs of Spring. It was the first tournament of the year within a few hundred miles, and the first one after a 3 or 4 month winter layoff.

Now that we've scheduled Daylight Savings Time to begin during our tournament, it's really a sign of Spring. After the Classic, we'll have plenty of daylight to play disc golf every day after work!

Parman
Feb 23 2009, 06:16 PM
Ed reads the boards from time to time, but does not post. Dave Cannon handles the PDGA reports for us, and I've emailed him to check on this. We meet tomorrow, and I'll try to remember to double-check on it for you.



Thanks David. See you in a couple of weeks.

BrettByerly
Feb 25 2009, 07:14 PM
I think of it as a sign of spring still. Just driving south from High Point, NC, Ican see the difference in the budding and flowering on the trees (he said budding and flowering heehee). Spring being my most favorite season, kinda gives me hope that the cold gray beast of February has gone away.
I think I've made the trip for ten out of the last 11 years.

davidsauls
Mar 02 2009, 11:01 AM
The early forecast is for temperatures in the mid-70s this weekend. Should be a welcome relief for everyone who played Crestwood, or anywhere else, this past weekend.

MTL21676
Mar 02 2009, 01:17 PM
One of my favorite course, one of my favorite events, three great travel partners, staying and hanging out at the Beave's, and great weather.

For the first time in a long time, I'm excited for a tournament. :D

BrettByerly
Mar 02 2009, 11:15 PM
http://www.weather.com/weather/wxdetail/USSC0065?dayNum=5&from=weekend

davidsauls
Mar 03 2009, 10:13 AM
Even better, the local TV meteorologist says this:

http://www.wistv.com/Global/category.asp?C=1683&nav=0RaN

Of course, they also shut down the city with their blizzard forecast at the start of this week, which ended in accumulations less than a good frost, so take it for what it's worth.

Stoney Hill DGC
Mar 03 2009, 04:31 PM
38 degrees today. 80 on Saturday. Rounding 3rd and heading for home, spring is almost here.

of course, this weather prediction is from the same forecasters that predicted 5 inches of snow....and all we got was rain.

Stoney Hill DGC
Mar 05 2009, 10:50 AM
Random Doubles Friday at 3 pm. Meet at the shelter near hole 16.

stack
Mar 08 2009, 11:50 PM
Thanks for running this another year ... awesome weather!

Congrats to all the winners of the tourney and the SC state pts series winners and runners up!

MTL21676
Mar 09 2009, 09:58 AM
Great tournament. Thanks Ed and crew.

One of my favorite events every year and will do everything I can to ensure I'm always there!

davidsauls
Mar 09 2009, 10:09 AM
Thanks to everyone for coming. Hope you enjoyed hte near-miraculous weather (after what we've had for the last month). It certainly wouldn't be a great event without the great participants.

Congratulations to the winners, and particularly a couple of come-from-behind-in-the-last-round performances by Justin Jernigan and Rick Stepp, and an after-the-last-round win by Mel Shuman.

Parman
Mar 09 2009, 11:33 AM
Fun course, tournament and playing partners. Great playing Hal and Mel. See y'all at the Clash.