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"Thumber roller" maybe. It is a shot you put your thumb in the inside and you are holding it like a fist and you throw down to the ground. It is the same trajectory as a two finger flick roller. I don't see the need for this as a two finger will go farther. Steve Killion in SoCal uses it to get under stuff for short rollers. He uses a Zepher or some big diameter disc. I played with him a lot and knew hat when he put on his wrist band, we were in trouble cause he would then put a thumber roller next to the pin. Wrist band to protect the forearm from tha big lid!!!

. I don't see the need for this as a two finger will go farther.



But a flick roller, the disc is facing the other direction and will turn the opposite way... Same reason you throw a thumber over a hammer/tommahawk

An accident!!! :D

actually its a great little shot. your thumb is inside the rim opposite of a thumber, the motion is like having a hammer in your thumb hitting a nail, its small quick movement with alot of wrist spin. Matt' Hall had a real good older pro teach us the shot. he used a condor and could throw thumb rollers 400ft with great accuracy. however they are only utility get out of trouble shots up to a 100ft for me. i use a putter or gator...thats it. after 2 yrs they have saved par for me when an air shot was blocked. like a thumber the thumb role does the same thing every time... it always rolls a "question ? mark formation on the ground. so if you practice and find a disc that is consistant they are good get out of trouble shots.

actually its a great little shot. your thumb is inside the rim opposite of a thumber, the motion is like having a hammer in your thumb hitting a nail, its small quick movement with alot of wrist spin. Matt' Hall had a real good older pro teach us the shot. he used a condor and could throw thumb rollers 400ft with great accuracy. however they are only utility get out of trouble shots up to a 100ft for me. i use a putter or gator...thats it. after 2 yrs they have saved par for me when an air shot was blocked. like a thumber the thumb role does the same thing every time... it always rolls a "question ? mark formation on the ground. so if you practice and find a disc that is consistant they are good get out of trouble shots.



Good info. Plus, the original differentiating names for the thumb shots are hook thumb, which has the opposite spin as a sidearm, and a thumber, which is as you describe. There have been a few players who could drive over 400 ft with air thumbers. At least one of those could throw MTA with fastbacks and compete at high levels.

Jeff Homburg is/was one of the best thumber roller throwers I ever saw. He used to thumb-roll 50-molds great distances and with great accuracy. I was in his group at a tournament @ Redstone Arsenal in 1983 when he got the first roller ace I had ever seen! He contended at the time that he was aiming for the root that popped the disc up into the basket, but none of us were buying it.

Jeff Homburg is/was one of the best thumber roller throwers I ever saw. He used to thumb-roll 50-molds great distances and with great accuracy. I was in his group at a tournament @ Redstone Arsenal in 1983 when he got the first roller ace I had ever seen! He contended at the time that he was aiming for the root that popped the disc up into the basket, but none of us were buying it.



Don Wilchek was the best. Greenwell is still pretty good. Randy Wagoner was the best in the air.

i rarely have to use this shot in competition... but the few times i have, i get a lot of "whoa!" or "what was that?" responses. it just isn't used as much as it should be. often, when i throw one, it will be the first time that the people in my group have ever seen it. no one utilizes this unique little shot like they should. it's a stroke saver, for sure. mostly i use it for short stuff. getting out of trouble or if i have to hook around some trees and i dont think a forehand will make it around to the basket.

. I don't see the need for this as a two finger will go farther.



But a flick roller, the disc is facing the other direction and will turn the opposite way... Same reason you throw a thumber over a hammer/tommahawk



Joegraham was correct in his observation.

Look at these photos of the Thumber and Hook Thumber grips:

Photos of grips (http://www.innovadiscs.com/tips/davesgripsmain.html#specialty)

You will see the Thumber Grip will provide the SAME flight/roll path as the Two Finger (Sidearm/Forehand Grip). The Hook Thumb will fly/roll the opposite direction as the Two Finger or the Thumber Grip.

Pictures are worth a 1000 words.

Thumbers are excellent to have in the bag. Joe's observation that a two finger will go farther is the exact opposite for me. I throw the thumber over the 2 finger because it comes off my hand cleaner and with more power. But my grip is a little different than most people. It's definitely fun to see people's reactions that have never seen the shot before - it's baffling to look at :)

Don Wilchek...that was the guy who taught Matt..who taught me. i heard he was the best..400ft accurate thumb rollers. And yes i heard of the thumroll ace that popped off a root, a friend of mine spoke of it. So i learned from Wilcheck in houston...sweeet. anyways i use them to get out of trouble and i do get alot of.."what the", when i throw them. they are un-orthadox and to the random eye they seem un-reliable but, i can 75% put them where i intend to.

Have you guys ever heard of a whacky 'ole Floridian named Roger Bunting? He still can get a good thumb roller out 400' on a good day and I hear that back in the day he was the king of this shot. He also invented the term "shule"...