2009 Texas State Doubles Amateur Disc Golf Championship
February 28 - March 1, 2009, PDGA XB-Tier
Snow Farm: Round Top / Winedale


Mark your calendars, the dates are set for this year's Championship. The flyer and information is being finalized and should be posted pretty soon. Titledisc signups will be available once set-up is done.

Mixed Doubles?

How about Advanced Grand Master Mixed Doubles?

It would be nice but just getting Mixed Doubles recognized is step 1...with you and your partner that makes 3 teams I know of definitely wanting to have Mixed Doubles.... :cool:

Who's your partner, Sue. Seems like I read something about you and Chu playing last year.

They were better known as Team Bagger :eek: :D:p

Aquaman is my partner this year. do we have three couples?

Looks that way.

And it looks all 3 teams could play Masters because 1 team consists of Wanna Be Oldtimers :D

So, who's not fifty yet?

2009 TEXAS STATE DOUBLES AMATEUR DISC GOLF CHAMPIONSHIP
FEBRUARY 27 - MARCH 1, 2009, PDGA XB-TIER

Benefiting the Gardenia E. Janssen Animal Shelter, serving Fayette County, Texas

A Perfect Warm-up for World Doubles - Limited to 32 Teams per Flight

Three rounds of 18 holes with a final 9 on Sunday afternoon. There will be a cut before the final nine. Texas State Doubles competition based on the World Doubles format. Bring your own everything: camping supplies, food and drink, etc. PACK IT IN PACK IT OUT.

Pre-registration ends Wednesday, February 25, 2009. A $5 late fee will be charged after February 25th. Credit card registration available through titledisc.com, must include all fees.

FOR FLIGHT A ONLY: AT LEAST ONE TEAMMATE MUST CHECK-IN ON FRIDAY FEBRUARY 27TH BETWEEN 1:00 PM AND 11:00 PM (or register - if space still available). This person must pay all the team�s fees that are still due: ace pot, non-PDGA fees, etc. NO REGISTRATION OR CHECK-IN FOR FLIGHT A ON SATURDAY FEBRUARY 28TH. Any pre-registered team not checked in by 11:00 pm on Friday will be dropped and replaced by a team on the waitlist.

FOR FLIGHT B ONLY: Please try to have at least one teammate check in (or register - if space still available) on Friday February 27th, between 1:00 pm and 11:00 pm. This will help us out greatly getting things ready for Saturday. There will be a short check-in & registration period Saturday morning February 28th from 7:30 am � 8:30 am. Any pre-registered team not checked in by 8:30 am will be dropped and replaced by a team on the waitlist.

FEES � PRICE IS PER PERSON (does not include the $4 Ace Pot)

FLIGHT A: Advanced Men $60; Advanced Master $50

FLIGHT B: Adv. Women $50; Adv. Grand Master $50; Int. (Men & Women) $45 Rec. ( Men & Women) $40; Mixed Doubles $45

Fees include $3 PDGA Fee & $12 Greens Fee. All players who are not active PDGA members for 2009 at the time of the tournament must pay an additional PDGA fee of $10. Camping fee for non-players is $12 per person.

Friday afternoon doubles round on February 27th: $20 per team and a flex tee time starting at 1pm (� round Best Shot, � round Alternating Shot).

SEND ALL OF THE FOLLOWING:
Your division, Both partners� entry fees � including $4 ace pot and $10 non-active PDGA fee (if applicable)
Both partners� PDGA #s; Both partners� phone #s; Both partners� addresses (physical & email)

YOUR TEAM WILL NOT BE REGISTERED UNTIL BOTH PLAYERS HAVE PAID.

Make checks or money orders payable to Dillo�s Leap Productions, but mail them to Gordon Maxim-Kelley, 1905 Harmon Hills Road, Dripping Springs, TX, 78620, or register online at titledisc.com. For more information contact Gordon at [email protected] or (512) 858-0119, or Randon at [email protected] or (979) 278-3536 or (979) 451-2069 cell.

We sure would like you or your company to be a sponsor. For only $75 you can have your name on a tee sign. CTP, Raffle, & Silent Auction prizes also needed (100% of Raffle/Auction proceeds to the charity).

Friday before the tournament, the gate opens at 1:00 pm. Check-in at the Doghouse. If space is still available after pre-registration is closed, it will be first come first served. Pre-registration is strongly advised. Most years we�ve had to turn away teams. If you are an active PDGA member, please have your 2009 membership card or a 2009 soft card (temporary member card) with you in case your name is not on the list of current members provided by the PDGA office. (Sending in your PDGA renewal form within two weeks of this tournament is usually not enough time to get on the list at the PDGA office).

FLIGHT A: Saturday: No Check-In Available; Player's meeting at 7:00 am. Round #1 Best Shot, tee time 7:30am; Round #2 Alternate Shot. Sunday: Round #3 Best Score (TBA, but probably around 11 am), Round #4 Worst Shot 10-12, Best shot 13-15, Best Score 16-18.

FLIGHT B: Saturday: Late check-in 7:30am � 8:30 am; Player's meeting at 9:30 am. Round #1 Best Shot, tee time immediately following players meeting (or as soon as flight A is done); Round #2 Alternate Shot. Sunday: Round #3 Best Score, tee time 8 am, Round #4 Worst Shot 1,5,6, Best shot 7-9, Best Score 19-21.

Round Top is half way between Austin and Houston. When you get to Round Top, turn at the blinking light (right from La Grange, left from Carmine). Turn left on 1457. Go about 3 miles then turn left onto 2714 to Winedale; (Wood sign says "Winedale Historical Center"). Go past the Stagecoach Inn and just before the black top ends, turn right on Muske-Ullrich Rd. The road will make a "dog leg", drive (.7mile) or half way down the hill and turn left at #3405 the sign says The Snow Farm. Stop at the first house on the left: The Doghouse. IF LOST CALL (979) 278-3536 or (979) 451-2069 cell.

I'll be submitting the information to www.titledisc.com (http://www.titledisc.com) today; so it should be up pretty soon.

Thank you for the Mixed Doubles catagory! Now we just have to get enough teams to make different divisions! I know there are 2 Mixed GrandMaster teams and 1 Mixed Master team planning on signing up.....That is if the Colonel's new GF is old enough to play Masters :eek: :D

I bet she's a youngster, I saw him with a big bag of candy a while back. :eek: :o :eek:

BTW, I will have to ask my partner about playing in a mixed division. We were hoping to just beat old men. ;)

Opps! I meant..........really old men. :D :p :D

Huh, mixed doubles division? That may be very interesting.

I'm sure she'd appreciate that comment, Harry. Actually, she just turned 42. And she loves candy, Sue. Particularly chocolate. :D

Remember to tell her I said it :D

online registration for this event will be up this weekend. I"m working hard to get the new TitleDISC site finished so that it can be used for TX State doubles. If I don't have it finished by the end of the weekend, I will put this event on the current site. Either way, stay tuned :)

Staying tuned :D

well it took just a little longer than I had planned, but the new TitleDISC site is ready for public consumption. I hope I've fixed all th bugs :)

you can now register for this event on www.titledisc.com (http://www.titledisc.com) !! If you have any issues at all getting registered, *please* let me know. [email protected]

I spoke with Aquaman, and we're game for the mixed division. It will be fun, and I bet we play the short boxes!

I just saw the post for Am World Dubs and I thought I'd bump AM State Dubs....I love Snow Farm

Thanks Jon!

Yes, www.titledisc.com (http://www.titledisc.com) is now up and running. Entries are starting to come in by both mail and titledisc.

Also, Randon is still looking for and needing more sponsors. In addition to the $75 option that gets your name or logo on a tee sign and in the program; there is also now a $100 option that gets you that plus a tournament disc.

Contact Randon at [email protected] or (979) 278-3536 or (979) 451-2069 cell

Titledisc doesn't show that there is a mixed division> Did this end up making or not?

There is a mixed division. It didn't make it up on titledisc the first time, but Josh is working on getting it added.

In the meantime, you can register for Intermediate and just put in a comment to me that you want to play Mixed (it is in the same Flight, and for the same price).

Thanks :D

The Mixed division is now live on TitleDISC. If you signed up for another division already on TitleDISC but need to move to the mixed division, please let me know - [email protected]

Thanks Josh!

2 1/2 more weeks!!!

Signed up & ready for the fun :cool::D :D:p

:cool:Two weeks to go :D Who's in? Who's ready for a great weekend of golf on a great course with Pro Staph :eek: :p

Uh-oh.

My partner jumped ship on me and I'm in need of a Grand Master partner. Anyone know of a GM looking for a partner for this?

Bound to be someone out there Ching!

BUMP :D

9 more days!!!

Let's hope this awesome weather holds! :cool:

Nice? It was 28�F this morning. :eek:

Nothing like a nice sunny brisk morning on the golf course :) Awesome weather means NO RAIN :eek: :D

C'MON weekend! We are almost there....who's ready?

Harry-
It's pretty quite on the thread. I understand you are playing mixed-dubs. I guess that might be a growing division, enough to be around a while.
Stevo and I went out yesterday and the course is in great shape. The Land Baron did some minor strategic pruning, but don't get your hopes up-it's still a course that has tough lines with each year's growth. Also, we will probably have north winds again on Saturday's round. That'll be fun.

Jessica & I are in for Mixed. I mailed it in so we're not on Titledisc. Anyone else?

ERic

Wade, we are trying to grow it....get some more females involved.

Eric, from what I know there were two teams registered as of Friday. Last year we had 3 and a few that showed interest. Wish they would step up!

Jessica & I are in for Mixed. I mailed it in so we're not on Titledisc. Anyone else?

ERic



The Land Barron & Queen D
Aquaman & SueMac
Peter & Lisa

:cool:Looks like 5 teams already :DThis is a good thing!

What up with not putting the best looking members of teams names first? :eek: :D :p

Saving the best for last. Man did come before woman. :D LOL

We b Rat Maphia.............beware of varmits. :o

We're mixed team exterminators. :eek: ;) :eek:

Click, click............bang! :p

Flight B is now full and has been removed from titledisc. If you'd like to be on the waitlist, just send me a PM, email me at [email protected], or call and leave a message on my home answering machine: 512-858-0119. (This flight has all the divisions other than advanced and adv.master)

Flight A (advanced and adv. master) still has room, it is half full right now. You can still sign up on titledisc for these divisions.

Looking good and so is the weather :cool:

I can hardly wait!!!

Just 3 more days til we get to leave for Round Top!

Billy Gilbert and I will be partnering up this year. The Snow Farm BLizard is coming to town. :D

See everyone up there!

Feb 27 Friday
Mix of sun and clouds. Highs in the mid 80s and lows in the mid 50s.

Feb 28 Saturday
Times of sun and clouds. Highs in the mid 70s and lows in the mid 40s.

Mar 1 Sunday
Abundant sunshine. Highs in the upper 60s and lows in the mid 40s.

Thanks seewhere :cool:We'll hold you to that :D

np should be fairly accurate or at least as accurate as the web :D

Looks like excellent camping weather, and perfect for disc golf :D

Thanks C-Ware!

We be camping at LaQuinta :D:D Indoor pool and hot tub :cool:

We be camping at LaQuinta :D:D Indoor pool and hot tub :cool:



Can't imagine Doubles without camping adventures..on site.

Fun times everywhere.

I can :D

How about an updated list of teams? :eek::D ;) Somebody had to ask!

Hey I'm looking for a partner for Advanced Masters in Flight "A"

If anyone knows anyone looking for a partner to play send them to me.

713-443-5385

Sorry Scott, I thought I had posted that much earlier today. I just realized that I didn't hit 'submit' after it came up for review.

Sorry about that, I hope you find a partner!

Hey I'm looking for a partner for Advanced Masters in Flight "A"

If anyone knows anyone looking for a partner to play send them to me.

713-443-5385



Welcome to the board!

BUMP!

Team Lists?????

I'll try to get to posting a list when I get home tonight.

In the meantime, we have 8 spots left in Flight A (advanced and adv. master teams only).

If you want to play in Flight A, but didn�t pre-register, you have to drive out to the ranch tomorrow (Friday); first come first served for any available spaces, starting at 1pm. You have to come out to the ranch to register and pay, and you MUST be there no later than 11pm. Earlier is better! More chance of spaces being available, plus the chance to set up camp, practice, relax, party, etc. Randon is very strict about this, he won�t hold spots just because someone calls and says they are coming out. Per the flyer:

FOR FLIGHT A ONLY: AT LEAST ONE TEAMMATE MUST CHECK-IN ON FRIDAY FEBRUARY 27TH BETWEEN 1:00 PM AND 11:00 PM (or register - if space still available). This person must pay all the team�s fees that are still due: ace pot, non-PDGA fees, etc. NO REGISTRATION OR CHECK-IN FOR FLIGHT A ON SATURDAY FEBRUARY 28TH. Any pre-registered team not checked in by 11:00 pm on Friday will be dropped and replaced by a team on the waitlist.

So no driving out Saturday morning and signing up, even if there are spots. And no no driving out Saturday morning and checking in, even if you did pre-register.

Flight A must be there on Friday.


The only way to get in now, is to make sure you get to the Snow Farm tomorrow afternoon (sometime after 1:00pm) and register and pay there.

Only divisions still open are Advanced and Advanced Masters divisions.

Wait list has been started for Flight B (Adv.Gr.Mstr, Intermediate Men & Women, Recreational Men, and Mixed). 5 or 6 on the list so far including 1 team that got signed up on TitleDisc before we could get it shut down. Many of those teams are registered in advanced, just to be sure to play, but will switch over if we get a bunch of cancellations on friday.

If you want to be added to the list, call me tonight at home 512-858-0119, or tomorrow morning between 7:30 am and 9:30 am. After that I'll be heading to the ranch where I get no cell phone reception, so call Randon on his cell: 979-451-2069.

From the flyer for flight B: There will be a short check-in & registration period Saturday morning February 28th from 7:30 am � 8:30 am. Any pre-registered team not checked in by 8:30 am will be dropped and replaced by a team on the waitlist. So if you are on the waitlist, you technically don�t have to be at the ranch until 8:30 on Saturday (but you don�t want to be there any later, because if we call your names and you aren�t there, we�ll go to the next team on the list). You are still welcome to come to the Ranch on Friday and play the �casual� doubles round or practice, and see if there have been any cancellations, but at the very latest you need to be there by 8:30 Saturday morning, ready to register if there are any spots available.

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Regarding fireworks and fires: NO fireworks!!! Only the Land Baron himself can do those.

If there is not a burn ban (and we hope to get final word about that from Randon soon), then fires in the camp sites are permitted, but still NO open ground fires . You can use a grill, pit, etc, but it needs to be contained in something.

This is a Ranch Rule that Randon put in place a few years ago after he had too many instances of beer bottles being put into the campfires and then him finding broken glass all over the ground for the next few months.

Oops, I meant to say THERE IS A BURN BAN!

And double Oops (too much in a hurry and burned by copying info from last year :o)

FOR FLIGHT A ONLY: AT LEAST ONE TEAMMATE MUST CHECK-IN ON FRIDAY FEBRUARY 27TH BETWEEN 1:00 PM AND 11:00 PM (or register - if space still available). This person must pay all the team�s fees that are still due: ace pot, non-PDGA fees, etc. NO REGISTRATION OR CHECK-IN FOR FLIGHT A ON SATURDAY FEBRUARY 28TH. Any pre-registered team not checked in by 11:00 pm on Friday will be dropped and replaced by a team on the waitlist.

From the flyer for flight B: There will be a short check-in & registration period Saturday morning February 28th from 7:30 am � 8:30 am. Any pre-registered team not checked in by 8:30 am will be dropped and replaced by a team on the waitlist. So if you are on the waitlist, you technically don�t have to be at the ranch until 8:30 on Saturday (but you don�t want to be there any later, because if we call your names and you aren�t there, we�ll go to the next team on the list). You are still welcome to come to the Ranch on Friday and play the �casual� doubles round or practice, and see if there have been any cancellations, but at the very latest you need to be there by 8:30 Saturday morning, ready to register if there are any spots available.

FLIGHT A
Advanced
Troy Soules & Stephen Brower
Jeff Ohnesorge & Kevin Brearly
Jim Kelly & Larry Cooper
Seth Johnson & Mark McCoin
Justin Webster & Jason Winkel
Dan Fisler & Scott Coleman
Martin Berry & Lawrence Berry
Brad Granier & Leon Gillard IV
Thomas Langley & David Emrick
Paul Williams & Skip McVeigh
Matt Stillwagon & Mark Olden
Matt Burton & Kyle Smith
Ron Jaden & Jim Castillo
Jason Rennie & Tony Rennie
Eric Hampy & Albert Balderas
Brandon Melton & Richard Streibel
Tom Relihan & Hunter Madrid
Scott Hawkins & Tim Egan

Advanced Master
Dan Turner & Joey Roper
Cecil Larkin & Brian Sudderth
Roger Allen & Ricky Amaya
Jeffrey Perrigo & Steve Dufrane
Jeff Vogel & Rob Martin
Bill Collins & Jeff Pitt




FLIGHT B
Adv. Grandmaster
Leroy McNamer & Rob Hand
Wade Kolb & Stevo Barnes
Mark McCrimmon & Dan Mueller
Kevin Simmons & Chip Groat
Sheldon Parker & Dale Gibbins
Larry Kruse & Billy Gilbert
Ron Sharpe & Bart Taylor

Int. Women
Stephanie Allen & Michele Owens
Karen Dorrier & Jessica DeBray

Int. Men
Glen Russell & C.J. Hopper
Keith Machen & David Teague
Jameson Pugh & Tom Yocky, Jr.
Jonathan Braley & Deke Kemp
Malcolm Delovio & Scott Mason
Doug Blake & Matt Stevens
Neal Martinez & Jarred Martinez
Joe Falcon & John Falcon
Sean Bowles & Jud Cherry
Tommy Koons & Dillon Jimerson

Rec. Men
John Stone & John Fink
Justin Ellsworth & Bryan Ellsworth
Rick Rollins & Eric Rollins
Alan Hester & Danny Rollins
Daniel Fowler & Michael Fonville
Art Mendoza & Gustavo Mendiola
Derick Stair & Robert Hargrove
Michael Williams & Justin Redman
Randy Samora & Rick Hopper
Lynn McNabb & Glenn Whitehead
Caleb Bentsen & John Brandonburg

Mixed
Randon Dillingam & De'Atra Hunter
Jerry Marcus & Susan Macaluso
Harry Kalthoff & Diane Morrow
Eric Jubin & Jessica Ritter

WOO-HOO! Weather is going to be great! See y'all Saturday morning :cool::D :D

Turner & Roper? I am CERTAIN you can come up with a good team name for them. hahahahahahahaha!

Sheldon Parker & Dale Gibbins.......Chip & Dale.......We all know Sheldon's longest drive isn't much more than a chip:D

See everyone out there tonight!

7 adv gm teams? Wow! Disc golf really is coming of age. I'll be there next year. I might even have an old harry partner. :D

I'm on my way out to the ranch now, so no more computer access for the weekend; and my cell doesn't work out there either, so if you need to contact Randon or me, call Randon's cell number (posted somewhere above).

Thanks!

Harry? As in Kalthoff or as in Mark Atwood/Rhett Stroh kind of hairy? :D

This is gonna be a rockin' weekend! Great weather, great friends, great competition!

There's a couple of those GM teams that would hold their own in the M division! Comini' up with Team names is gonna be BIG fun this year!

Yeah it looks like Kent & I are going to kick some old butt next year :eek: :DThis year I'm just going to have a leisurely weekend with my girl :cool:

Thanks to the TD, Staff & the Land Baron for an awesome weekend under slightly less than perfect conditions :oThe course looked great despite the lack of rain. Congratulations to the winners :cool:

Scores??? :D

Larry said he would try to get the scores uploaded tonight.

ERic

scores uploaded tonight

well

Here are the final standings of the B Flight:
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q193/ejubin/IMG_1578_c.jpg

Or URL for full-size image: http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q193/ejubin/IMG_1578_c.jpg

ERic

I don't have the A Flight standings, sorry. You'll have to wait on Larry for those.

ERic

Anyone know who won advanced?

Thanks for posting that Flight B sheet Eric!

Here is the "not-so-pretty version" copied from the excel spreadsheet for Flight A. Sorry, but I don't know how to do the whole table thing. Hopefully Larry will be able to get the full results up on the PDGA site soon.

More info coming soon about the action and the amount raised for charity.

Thanks!
Gordon


Player 1 Info Player 2 Info
Division Team Name First Name Last Name PDGA # Rating First Name Last Name PDGA # R-1 R-2 R-3 Final Total Payout $
MA1 First Run Jim Kelly 34408 Larry Cooper 33934 53 60 52 29 194 $300
MA1 Chain Gang Eric Hampy 35670 Albert Balderas 28990 57 56 55 28 196 $270
MA1 Soul Borrower Troy Soules 9104 Stephen Brower 16215 55 58 54 30 197 $250
MA1 Disc Junkies Brad Granier 24337 Leon Gillard IV 24336 57 67 54 28 206 $210
MA1 Puff n Putt Seth Johnson 32210 Mark McCoin 20315 54 68 53 31 206 $210
MA1 Sweetskunk Justin Webster 35444 Jason Winkel 35478 58 66 55 28 207 $170
MA1 Duece Bags Paul Williams 24252 Skip McVeigh none 58 63 56 31 208 $150
MA1 Smitty Nutrub Matt Burton 21576 Kyle Smith 35254 56 69 55 30 210 $120
MA1 86ers Tom Langley 19855 Dave Emrick 19068 62 64 56 29 211 $105
MA1 Team Dutchwagon Matt Stillwagon 32292 Mark Olden 33913 57 65 58 31 211 $105
MA1 Blackfoot Britches Brandon Melton 31898 Richard Streibel 32741 55 67 57 33 212
MA1 Please not third! Dan Fisler 12161 Scott Coleman 24594 60 67 58 29 214
MA1 Double Ren Jason Rennie 35008 Tony Rennie 37998 57 68 57 33 215
MA1 Magic man & Diablo Martin Berry 32740 Lawrence Berry 17911 57 69 60 186
MA1 Aced and Confused Joshua Williams 35728 Dylan Marez 35169 53 74 60 187
MA1 Team Happy Jeff Ohnesorge 16104 Kevin Brearly 37350 59 68 63 190
MA1 Fishing For "KB" Fishead Tim McCrory 21964 Kevin Browning 35812 60 73 61 194
MA1 The Undknown Bryan Davis 31799 Charlie Versher 62 69 63 194
MA1 Team Mustache Ride Adam Gonzales Payton McCaine 57 76 62 195
MA1 The Underdogs Ron Jaden 36495 Jim Castillo 25851 61 74 66 201
MA1 Chain Smokers Tom Relihan none Hunter Madrid none 63 77 67 207
MA1 Team Hawk Scott Hawkins 37271 Tim Egan 21936 63 81 65 209
MA1 Cherry Bowles Shannon Bowles 29077 Vanessa Cherry 62 80 70 212

MM1 Ugly Navajo Roger Allen 18811 Ricky Amaya 20044 51 61 61 31 204 $190
MM1 Slushershank Jeffrey Perrigo 34053 Steve Dufrane 13317 57 66 57 26 206 $150
MM1 Death Lark Cecil Larkin 15526 Brian Sudderth 31369 53 70 60 29 212 $100
MM1 Second Hand Lions Dan Turner none Joey Roper 22631 55 64 61 35 215
MM1 Twin Cans Bill Collins 16499 Jeff Pitt 16501 57 68 58 35 218
MM1 Marvolous Jeff Vogel 25248 Rob Martin 11367 56 69 60 185
MM1 H-Town Warlocks Brayton Adams 17239 Danny Berry 16437 61 68 67 196

Okay gang...it's always a challenge trying to figure out how to "fool the system" in uploading these doubles scores, but I think I've got it. Please check them out ( Click on me! (http://www.pdga.com/tournament-results?TournID=8717) ) and let me know if something doesn't seem quite right.

For the mixed doubles teams: I had to get all of you into a separate division by yourselves, so I chose to use the MA4 (Novice) division for them. I uploaded both player's last names in the first-name and last-name fields and generally used the PDGA number of the first player. I a couple of cases, I swapped player 1 and 2 around if the player 1 didn't have a PDGA number.

Everyone played Red tees for their first round. After that, I plugged the A-flite folks into BLUE tees and Intmediate & Adv. Grandmasters into White tees and everyone else remained on Red tees. Par value was set at 56 for those configurations that played #10. The B-flite folks didn't play #10 in their final. (Oops! Just realized that I probably left the Final 9 setting at 18 holes! I'll fix that in a second.)

Also: I made a scoring error on the Final-9 for the MA1 division. I swapped two scores inadvertently and it wasn't pointed out to us until yesterday...after payout was done! Crap! It shuffled around the final standings in MA1 a bit...the results online should be correct scores though! My humblest apologies go out to Seth Johnson and Mark McCoin for my mistake. It'll be fixed in the results sent to the PDGA.

Larry,


For the mixed doubles teams: I had to get all of you into a separate division by yourselves, so I chose to use the MA4 (Novice) division for them.


Since Mixed was open to all skill levels, for the purpose of points calculations shouldn't it be set to Advanced?



I uploaded both player's last names in the first-name and last-name fields and generally used the PDGA number of the first player.


Again, for the purpose of points don't you need to have both players listed, a la the Birdshot Doubles event last December:
http://www.pdga.com/tournament-results?TournID=8406

ERic

Easy does it ERic ! [take a deep, cleansing breath..]

Remember that the results I have posted are the "un-official" ones. The official results will be sent directly to the PDGA and it clearly lists both players and their PDGA numbers and their divisions. I might be wrong about this, but the points awarded for playing in this event are a function of its tier status (xc-tier in this case) and not of the division. I think that Recreational players are awarded the same amount of points as Advanced players.

You probably haven't seen the tournament-admin stuff associated with uploading scores and setting up the course configurations for ratings purposes, but it isn't easy trying to figure out how to upload results that aren't singles format...or configuring the field-mapping stuff. The upload system only allows for one player's info so I had to choose one column of PDGA numbers or the other...when you view the results, it takes you to the first player's PDGA info and uses that players rating. I probably could've spent a LOT more time and researched everyone's rating and then placed the highest rated player on the left column, but I took the lazy way out and simply chose the column that had the most completed PDGA numbers in it.

I think it is interesting to note that there was only one 1000-rated round out there. I guess that ought to show how much that wind affected everyone's game! I think usually there are many more 1000-rated rounds out there in the doubles format. I'm off to see if I can see last year's results...but I'm not expecting to find them rated once they've become "official."

Larry,


For the mixed doubles teams: I had to get all of you into a separate division by yourselves, so I chose to use the MA4 (Novice) division for them.


Since Mixed was open to all skill levels, for the purpose of points calculations shouldn't it be set to Advanced?



I uploaded both player's last names in the first-name and last-name fields and generally used the PDGA number of the first player.


Again, for the purpose of points don't you need to have both players listed, a la the Birdshot Doubles event last December:
http://www.pdga.com/tournament-results?TournID=8406

ERic



You mean like this? Last year's results. [not rated] (http://www.pdga.com/tournament-results?TournID=7405)

I might be wrong about this, but the points awarded for playing in this event are a function of its tier status (xc-tier in this case) and not of the division. I think that Recreational players are awarded the same amount of points as Advanced players.



AM Doubs this year was supposed to be an XB-Tier. And doubles formats do award points that scale based on skill division.


The upload system only allows for one player's info so I had to choose one column of PDGA numbers or the other...when you view the results, it takes you to the first player's PDGA info and uses that players rating. I probably could've spent a LOT more time and researched everyone's rating and then placed the highest rated player on the left column, but I took the lazy way out and simply chose the column that had the most completed PDGA numbers in it.

I think it is interesting to note that there was only one 1000-rated round out there. I guess that ought to show how much that wind affected everyone's game! I think usually there are many more 1000-rated rounds out there in the doubles format.



The round ratings are based on the ratings of the one team player you chose to list on the upload form, right? If you essentially randomly picked the player number/rating to list that could partially explain the lack of 1000 rounds.

ERic

You mean like this? Last year's results. [not rated] (http://www.pdga.com/tournament-results?TournID=7405)


Exaclty :D

Hmmm...I haven't paid much attention to changes in the points award stuff...interesting though...seems designed then to motivate folks to move up a division.

At any rate...I think you missed my point which is that the results I uploaded are NOT official. The official ones are put in by the PDGA when we send them a check and the official report/spreadsheet. All is clearly recorded on the TD Report which goes to the PDGA. That is when they change in appearance to the ones in last year's results.

Hmmm...I suppose you might be right about the results and lack of 1000-rated rounds out there, but still, remember that this is doubles format and hence you would expect to see better scores than you would for singles and correspondingly higher ratings as a result. It might be that setting the par value for any of the 18-hole configurations to 56 was a bit too low. I wouldn't consider all of the rest of those holes to be par 3's but I can't figure out what other hole to give par 4 to...

Basically though...ratings for a doubles format isn't really valid anyway, right? I just always think that it is interesting to see what a rated doubles round would be if it were singles. The ratings are only around until the PDGA makes them official by replacing them with their hand-entered set from the TD Report...that only happens when they get the report AND the check...unfortunately...Gordon is always very prompt about that sort of thing! :D

Larry it doesn't matter if better scores were shot. The ratings are based off the pool of scores so if they are all lower than normal a 1000 rated round would be a lower score. Basically if even was normally 1000 it might be -5 in dubs.

Hmmm...I suppose you might be right about the results and lack of 1000-rated rounds out there, but still, remember that this is doubles format and hence you would expect to see better scores than you would for singles and correspondingly higher ratings as a result.

Remember that only the first round was "best shot" which would provide significantly improved scores over singles. Round two was "alt shot" and round three was "best score".



It might be that setting the par value for any of the 18-hole configurations to 56 was a bit too low. I wouldn't consider all of the rest of those holes to be par 3's but I can't figure out what other hole to give par 4 to...

Par value should have absolutely nothing to do with SSA and round ratings. Those are based only on the scores shot and the player ratings of those shooting the scores.

ERic