ninafofitre
Jan 12 2009, 12:50 PM
I was starting to plan the 2009 Disc Golf year out and checked the Worlds as a destination that we may want to try to come back to after a 2 year hiatus to go through having a baby. Was going through the accommodations for the event and saw that the hotel is $135/per night .................................................. ..
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Yeah I crapped myself too, (what recession? what unemployment rate? what, my favorite team is the Yankees?) W T F ?

that's only $810 for 6 days....(probably plus taxes) I don't care if it was the Taj Mahal my honky butt won't be fork'n it over. By the way the Pure Resort at the JAPAN OPEN was only $600 for 6 days all the food and all you could DRANK! WOW Now that was a DEAL!!!

So I wanted to start a thread for people to come up with a REALISTIC place to stay and hang because the best part of Worlds is getting to hang with your homies from across the country that you don't get to see but once a year at Worlds.

I have been doing some investigating on hotels.com and travelocity.com that there are dozens of hotels in the $45-$60 range the typical Holiday Inns, Best Westerns, Day's Inn etc.

We are looking for a hotel that is located near the courses or we could go for best value, don't matter to us. Obviously we want to be in a safe location also.

We just want to hang out with fellow disc golfers, have some fun at a reasonable rate ;)

vinnie
Jan 12 2009, 12:59 PM
Courntey playing TWC.
I will help in anyway

ninafofitre
Jan 12 2009, 01:02 PM
There is a very slim chance. Probably Not because we are getting married the next Thursday before the Oklahoma National Tour Event, but slightly possibly because we are coming West that week....if that helps :D

Although I heard through the grapevine you may have a very high profile female attendee. ;)

MTL21676
Jan 12 2009, 01:20 PM
Was going through the accommodations for the event and saw that the hotel is $135/per night



That is beyond rediculous. Glad I ain't going - staying at the host hotel is always one of the most fun parts of the week b/c everything happens there and most people are there. Every worlds I've gone to I've stayed at the host hotel and will every single year I decide to go. But 135? What in the world were the organizers thinking of getting that hotel to be the host?

ninafofitre
Jan 12 2009, 01:21 PM
I've been semi retired for the past 2 years, hell I don't even know where my bag is since the last time I played with it in Nov at the Players Cup but did I sleep through and miss something?

Did the demographics of disc golfers dramatically change in the days that I have been missing out. I thought we were a bunch of blue collars that like playing golf but don't want to fork over $50 every day to hit the links. I thought that we were a bunch of traveling gypsies that float from town to town with our fragrance of oregano and incense, I thought we were a bunch of good ole boys that like to share an ICE COLD Budweiser with your fellow competitors after a long hot day on the course.

I guess I missed the memo that Disc Golfers have become wine sippin', 3 piece suit, caviar cracker pastin, yupity $135 a night Westin Crown Plaza hotel guy.

ninafofitre
Jan 12 2009, 01:50 PM
I though I have been reading and hearing about this thing in the news called the "Recession." I seem to be understanding that it means that everyone is broke! Maybe I am just misunderstanding what I am reading about our country financial crisis. Is it just a coincidence that 25% of the stores at my local shopping area is going out of business or gone?

Sure it sounds like a good idea to go blow nearly $1000 for a week at a hotel to play disc golf. Sure it may be fun, you may even to get some fine Bar-b-Que made from the finest equine. Hopefully they cook it long enough this time to cover the jockey's whip marks and you don't end up with food poisoning like I did.

I wonder how it went over when that was brought to the Worlds planning committee......

<Hotel Guy> "I just got off the phone with the lady at the hotel and secured rooms for the Worlds.

<Committee> " Awesome! That is a huge resposiblity and quite the job to get bids from the hotels and get the best one for us."

<Hotel Guy > Thanks

<Committee> Well let's hear the specifics?

<Hotel Guy> We get all the convention rooms we will get to have a great dinner and a great fly mart and it's only $135 a night

<Committee> :crickets chirping:

twoputtok
Jan 12 2009, 02:07 PM
Makes the deal I set up in Tulsa for Worlds at $60 per night a REAL steal. :o

I am one that could afford the host hotel but will not fork it over, :mad:I want to stay where the fun players are. Hanging with the PDGA staff and marshalls will just get me a life time ban. :D

Big E
Jan 12 2009, 02:33 PM
Most the DFW guys I have talked to are staying at the Value PLace and it is around 250 for the whole week!

bruce_brakel
Jan 12 2009, 03:05 PM
I am thinking about going. If I go, I will sleep in my van. I have no idea where I'll be parking. Urban commando camping.

twoputtok
Jan 12 2009, 03:35 PM
http://inovis.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/i_live_in_a_van_down_by_the_river.jpg :D

jackinkc
Jan 12 2009, 05:11 PM
Well......do what you want, but Milwaukee's was $119/night in 2007. You want a venue you don't have to leave, or do you want to travel every night to a different place to go to? I found a few properties that could house all of us and our events this was the only one under $150/night, this was it. Every other place would require multiple travel areas, and different directions, and locations for the players meeting, the flymart, the banquet, registration.....

I'll let you know what they were thinking.....I was thinking that I have hated having to drive all over to get to where the next thing is at for the last 3 years. Think Highbridge, everywhere was 35-50 minutes to get to. Kalamazoo, every area was divided, heck they had to have 2 hotels (yeah they were cheaper, but the area has cheaper hotels than in KC). So I wanted something that I thought would make sense for all players and spouses. (Not to mention hotel has many restaurants, shopping, and access to museums within walking distance)

You can find $70/hotels in town (not downtown Kansas City, but in the suburbs welcome to heavy travel times), I wouldn't suggest them. I could have gone back to the Holiday Inn that we used in 2003 (Not Holiday Inn anymore, but just as shotty) for $99/night, then had the same issues.

When having a world class event, it is not a weekend retreat. This is an event where you have to worry about families, and what they can and can not do, some of them this is their vacation for the year, and we are blessed that they take it.

So for an extra $40/day it makes sense to this "Non-3-piece wearing MoFo" to be at one location. This location has everything that you would need. It is normally $289/night.


This is not Tulsa, this is not one event (am Worlds vs. combined), it is a COMBINED worlds, there will be over 1000 players, and we need to cater to EVERYONE, yeah times are tough, have 4 people in a room, and its $35/night. Not bad for 5 star place with all your disc golf needs met, and you will not be more than 30 minutes from any course, nor will you miss any fun. SO is it worth $25/day to stay at the Value Inn, it may be only you can decide (again using the 4 person rule per room)

Again stay where you want, but this is going to be the place, and those of you staying elsewhere will just spend more in gas and driving time, but hey that�s why you come to worlds right, to look through a windshield to follow the GPS to get to and from the hotel?

I dunno. We could have stayed at the Red Roof Inn ($44-45 minutes to Water Works, 30 minutes to host hotel), and then done nothing fun for people, that would have made you happier right?

Its the WORLDS, not even an NT event, and you want to cheap out on it? I guess I do not get it. I understand its higher than most venues, but we also need to house all the other events, and that played just as much input as pricing. Pricing is important, but we also tend to share in our community, so I took that into consideration as well.


I really strained hard on this decision, and in reality, I was so mad that we did not use them in 2003 (they came in at $89/night that year vs $69/night we got at Holiday Inn) versus the Crown Center for a $20/night savings, that it also played into the equation. Saving essentially $10/per night per person (I base everything on 4, because we are disc golfers) it was a no brainer. Just thoughts from this person that spent 9 months anguishing over the decision to use this, but hey, I took nothing into consideration, I just thought that the price looked good........NOT.......


You will have one of the best nights sleep on the beds, all amenities that you could desire, and all this for the extra $10, why would you stay elsewhere.

Staying at the Value Inn ($250/week) is saving a lot of money, no denying it, but you will have to re-gear every time, the rooms will not be as nice, there are no onsite facilities (restaurants, venues for others that are not playing) to keep people active while you play, so they have to find other options.

Yeah its not all inclusive (man you're right $600 in Japan is better) but it is in a center hub of airlines, within 500 miles of 54 million people, has an international airport, and everyone in town knows where Crown Center is, so if you get lost, they'll get you to it, try asking your locals where the Value Inn is, and how to get to it from Wyandotte County......

Value is perceived. I understand it is higher than what you may have been accustomed to, but this is also the biggest city that this event has ever been in. It is also probably going to be the biggest event that the Sport has seen. To make everyone travel around all over the city just looking at where to go, sounds like no fun to me.

Stay where you want, but you'll be missing the best place that Disc golf has had, and will be missing most of the good times for those of us at the hotel that we will want to take over. If your not there, then you hurt it overall, if you are there, you will see how good it is, and how cool it is to be in the middle of everything that this week has to offer you.

Sorry for the rant, but this hotel was a LOT of planning and pains. This made the most sense, it still does.

Jack

ninafofitre
Jan 12 2009, 05:39 PM
I'm sure it will be an incredible room, I bet the toilets are so clean you could lick it, but that's not disc golf. That may be corporate disc golf....The PDGA, etc. but that isn't what the typical disc golfers are.

Jack, sure I vented a little a little bit about the cost of the host hotel, but if you can get 50 rooms booked at that rate....more power to you. I really just wanted to start this thread to try and get the word out that their may be a 2nd alternative for the more reasonable players. It would be cool to be able to be near a lot of other golfers that aren't wanting to fork over near a G for a place to stay for a week.

ninafofitre
Jan 12 2009, 05:50 PM
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bravo
Jan 12 2009, 05:57 PM
that is not what i would expect to spend on a weeks vacation with my family i certainly cant justify over $1000 on my hobby. i guess i wont be joining the pdga this year as i know i cant make the event even if i was the top seed with a sponsor.

rocguy77
Jan 12 2009, 06:38 PM
geez, i don't think people have to stay at the host hotel to play do they?

the problem KC has is all to do with location. sure, you can save a few bucks on the rooms, but you're going to end up driving quite a bit more than if you were at the host hotel. to some people, it's worth it, to some, it's not.

downtown KC is the place to be for easy access to the courses, and you won't find lodging in the area much cheaper than what jack has set up. not to mention that the host hotel is one of the nicest hotels in the city!

knowing how close that hotel is to the courses, i really feel for the pros that have stayed with me the last few years; swope is the closest to my house and it's more than 20 minutes away!

JerryChesterson
Jan 13 2009, 10:24 AM
A lot of times the messageboard is used for complaining, I know I've been guilty of that. That's why I wanted to voice some support.


Have 4 people in a room, and its $35/night. Not bad for 5 star place with all your disc golf needs met, and you will not be more than 30 minutes from any course, nor will you miss any fun.




Thats a great idea. At that rate you can get 2 double beds and then bring 2 air matresses. Having spent time in KC I know driving time can be at a premimum and appreciate the central location. Also, having stayed at this Hotel for my previous job I know it is really nice and hopefully it is besieged with DGers.

MTL21676
Jan 13 2009, 11:13 AM
We did the 4 people a room with 2 beds and 2 air mattresses every year and it was only like 12 bux a night.

Still no comparison.

JerryChesterson
Jan 13 2009, 11:38 AM
We did the 4 people a room with 2 beds and 2 air mattresses every year and it was only like 12 bux a night.

Still no comparison.



1 - Wasn't a comparison to anything rather trying to lend support to idea that $35/night is a good idea.
2 - Good point on the lack of camparison, those that have stayed there will tell you there is no comparison to another hotel out in the burbs.
3 - Have you stayed there? I personally don't like the shady hotel/motels. This is 5 star hotel and when will anyone get the chance to stay at a 5 star for $35/night.

Of course these are just my opinions.

ninafofitre
Jan 13 2009, 11:42 AM
I'm sure it is a fabulous hotel, not denying that at all. I'm not trying to trash the hotel, WORLDS or even KC. I won't mention the price by name anymore.

Kansas City is a great city (if you live in MO) lol :Dj/k

I'm just getting the word out that if people want another alternative it would be cool if alot of us could get in or near the same hotel.

Sort of like Microtel at USDGC.....even though Disc Golfers trashed the place a few years back....I'm glad I wasn't staying there that year I may have contributed to mischevious behaivor, but I'm in the clear on that one ;)

JerryChesterson
Jan 13 2009, 11:54 AM
Kansas City is a great city (if you live in MO)



I think we can all agree on that since MO is the great state that is home to the 2006 World Series Champion Cardinals. Although Kansas can stake a claim to Boulevard Beer. Their unfiltered wheat is sooooooooooo good.

Big E
Jan 13 2009, 11:58 AM
We did the 4 people a room with 2 beds and 2 air mattresses every year and it was only like 12 bux a night.

Still no comparison.



1 - Wasn't a comparison to anything rather trying to lend support to idea that $35/night is a good idea.
2 - Good point on the lack of camparison, those that have stayed there will tell you there is no comparison to another hotel out in the burbs.
3 - Have you stayed there? I personally don't like the shady hotel/motels. This is 5 star hotel and when will anyone get the chance to stay at a 5 star for $35/night.

Of course these are just my opinions.



I am taking my family (wife and 2 year old) with me so I am considering them in the process and think there would be a lot more for them to do while I am out golfing down town than at another hotel! Only thing is no one will be splitting the room with us! But it is still going to be worth it because my family wont hate me for leaving them in the burbs with nothing to do all day! I just have to go take a lean out on my house to afford it :p

ninafofitre
Jan 13 2009, 12:03 PM
yeah nothing like forking over a couple of mortgage payments to stay somewhere for a week :D

I promise I am about to shine some light in this, it just may take few hours cuz I'm up to my neck in baby pooh today.... ;)

chappyfade
Jan 13 2009, 12:23 PM
Kansas City is a great city (if you live in MO)



I think we can all agree on that since MO is the great state that is home to the 2006 World Series Champion Cardinals. Although Kansas can stake a claim to Boulevard Beer. Their unfiltered wheat is sooooooooooo good.



Actually, the Boulevard Brewery is on Southwest Blvd. on the Missouri side of the state line. It's only a few blocks from Kansas, but it's in Missouri. Boulevard is now Missouri's largest domestically-owned brewery. :)

Chap

ninafofitre
Jan 13 2009, 12:33 PM
I have been to 11 World Championships and I am going to share some cool things I got to do because I didn't have to spend 5 car payments to do it.

1996 South Bend IN - I'm 22 working for $8/h not alot of money but saved up about $400 to goto Worlds with my good ole buddy Zucconi. We shared a room at the host hotel and it was the first time I ever got to meet the SWEEDISH WOMENS DISC GOLF TEAM.....instant rise in the levis....well to save time...Brigitta's fine self wasn't quite on the team yet and there was a bunch of Helga's....but none the less I got to have extra money and we were able to go play another course in Niles MI and ran into Steady Ed Hedrick for the 1st time ever, there he was, and we found his sunglasses he lost...AWESOME! Experience pt tourney hotel for the 1st experience

1997 Charolotte NC. Scraped together about $500 with my buddy Mark Vasicek and we drove all the way from Tulsa to Charolotte straight through and we arrive and Mitch Mac has already got us a place at the KNIGHTS INN. A weekly rate of $200 for 4 of us....I left the 4th name out for a reason you are about to hear about. While we are out late after a long day at Winthrop we get back and our 4th roomate is going crazy. "DUDE DUDE DUDE!!! You won't believe what just happend" we ask anxious to hear about his fortunes...."I just got a h%**#r from this crack&amp;% for $10" :(
"NO YOU DIDN'T!"......In our room? I replied.....
Yeah it was great! right here on your bed I can get her to come back if you want" He says....
"Ah no i think I'll pass!" :mad: &lt;puke&gt; I was TICKED!!! pt Tourney Hotel

1998 Cincinnatti OH...Split a weekly rate dive motel with Mitch Mac and were able to afford going with Vinnie Miller and goto a REDS v BREW game at old Riverfront. Got to be part of a couple guys chunking discs on the field during the game. Got to be there with Mitch when the COP said "if you throw that on the field I will throw you in jail" Mitch launched and we sprinted from the cop running out of the stadium...AWESOME Experience Pt for Dive Motel

1999 Rochester stayed at the Tournament Hotel got to see Ken Climo and Ron Russel post up on each other at the flymart...they were the 2 players that were far above the rest that year and it was a very tense moment seeing King Kong and Godzilla about to scrap. Pt for Tourney Hotel

2000 Ann Arbor Michigan...Stayed at the Tournament provided Dorms Eastern Michigan University...I think it was only $100 for the week.... School was out.....no hotties/bunk beds/cinder block walls....good price but lack of atmosphere Pt Tourney Hotel

be back soon to continue ;)

discette
Jan 13 2009, 12:39 PM
By the way the Pure Resort at the JAPAN OPEN was only $600 for 6 days all the food and all you could DRANK! WOW Now that was a DEAL!!!




This is not quite a fair comparison for two reasons. First, the hotel rate in Japan was $600 per person - not per room. The rooms slept 4 people for a total $2,400 price tag. The room rate was actually higher than this and was subsidized by Hero Japan. For the record, the alcohol was supplied by Mr. Shimbo and not included in actual the hotel rate.

ninafofitre
Jan 13 2009, 01:00 PM
Yes you are correct about Japan but it was so awesome I had to talk about it again, I still get a huge grin thinking about it. The most incredible disc golf event on the planet.

I really just wanted to talk about the heated toilet seats, I must say I fudged the numbers kind of like a Chuck Kenenedyism kind of way to make my arguement sound that much better, you busted me out :D

cgkdisc
Jan 13 2009, 01:09 PM
Except when I display ("fudge") numbers a certain way for more impact, they're still correct. :p

Wallace Lee Gator
Jan 13 2009, 01:09 PM
I believe there is way too much argument about which hotel is better for what reason!! The focus needs to be on options for the 900 + players that will be attending this year�s worlds. It�s ridiculous to not list multiple options of hotels for the players and let them decide whether they want to be at the host hotel or elsewhere. To push the host hotel so hard that you basically say any other choice is dumb founded is not logical coming from someone that�s apart of the committee which is running the event. So far everything is going great and you guys are doing an outstanding Job but the best way to resolve this issue is to list three options for lodging based on location and someone�s knowledge of the area. Give us option A. Host hotel, B. and C. That�s my two cents!

rocguy77
Jan 13 2009, 01:42 PM
noone said you had to stay anywhere in particular.

the flymart, players meetings, etc will be at the host hotel. end of story. you can stay wherever the heck you want, just realize that if stay outside of the downtown KC area, you may have to do some extra driving.

cgkdisc
Jan 13 2009, 01:42 PM
Having been on Worlds hosting committees a few times, you're torn between pushing the host hotel versus the other lesser expensive accommodations you know about nearby. Why? Because there are other facilities that get comped at the host hotel if you meet certain minimum registration goals such as any combination of the following: FlyMart space, table &amp; chairs rental, Player Meeting room, scoring room, staff rooms, banquet room, catering, etc. If you have to pay for these facilities elsewhere because the host hotel can't handle it, the cost just comes out of the payout a different way. By getting it covered from room registrations, it does keep more money in the tournament fund which ultimately can get reflected in the purse.

ninafofitre
Jan 13 2009, 02:03 PM
continued

2001 Minnesota took the Host Hotel because it was accross from the Mall of America....great rate actually had extra money left over cuz we were being frugal and got to see the Twins vs Indians game. It was SO NICE to walk into the Metrodome when it was 98+ all those days and it was 72 degrees in the Homerdome...we had extra money and we were able to upgrade to 6th row right behind Twins dugout pt HOST Hotel

2002 &amp; 2003 RV'd it stayed at some really nice campgrounds.

2004 Des Monies.....Could have been the best Pro Worlds ever I must say Pt Des Moines

2005 Allentown Stayed with friends at the host hotel and thank goodness...I bust my knee open at Noxamixom and thank god Doc Doug from New England was staying near us and was able to Dr my knee...... pt Host hotel

2006 Augusta We chose the dive motel the Masters Inn...we thought it's called the masters inn it must be clean and green right? Every night at 10pm hookers everywhere, unless you were my so called buddy from the Charlotte Worlds pt Host Hotel

So in conclusion its best to stay in the host hotel...but unfortunatly me and I'm sure a whole bunch of other's won't be able to afford to stay there.

my_hero
Jan 13 2009, 02:06 PM
Except when I display ("fudge") numbers a certain way for more impact, they're still correct. :p



It's never a smart thing to argue numbers with a numbers guy. For one, the numbers guy could fabricate any number and reason for that number and make it sound fabulous. PT Chuck Kennedy :D

cgkdisc
Jan 13 2009, 02:08 PM
And that's my Pt :D

Interesting aside from yesterday. I commented on a sports blog on AOL correcting a percentage the author had quoted on Delhomme's interceptions Saturday. Shortly after my post, it disappears and his blog is corrected with the percentage I said was corrrect. :eek:

ninafofitre
Jan 13 2009, 02:10 PM
I think we can all to agree Chuckles is a pretty creative ;) funny guy

JerryChesterson
Jan 13 2009, 02:19 PM
Except when I display ("fudge") numbers a certain way for more impact, they're still correct. :p



It's never a smart thing to argue numbers with a numbers guy. For one, the numbers guy could fabricate any number and reason for that number and make it sound fabulous. PT Chuck Kennedy :D



Isn't there a quote something to the effect of ...

There are lies, then there are dammed lies, then there are statistics

cgkdisc
Jan 13 2009, 02:27 PM
The statistics themselves can be factual. But just like magicians, they can make people see something that's not really there, or not see something that's really there.

sandalman
Jan 13 2009, 03:20 PM
in other words, when chuck tells you something you need tom wonder what his ulterior motives are for presenting it the way he did :):):)

cgkdisc
Jan 13 2009, 03:31 PM
Exactly. Keep'm guessing, sort of like a pawn sacrifice to set up a longer term play, to use another analogy.

my_hero
Jan 13 2009, 05:12 PM
PT well taken :D

pgcarlos
Jan 14 2009, 10:03 AM
I have a room reserved at the Host hotel. I want a Pool/Hottub and a mattress that will not kill my back. Central location is a major plus. I drove all over Kalamazoo last year, sometimes over an hour to the courses. My wife and kids also play so we had days of 3 different courses all in different directions.

Vanessa
Jan 14 2009, 10:51 AM
So here's the real deal. When single and childless, you can stay very frugally. I remember my first Worlds (Huntsville in 83 for those who are keeping track) and I think there were either 5 or 6 of us in the room. What I do remember for sure is that I had part of a bed!

You can even stay very frugally if you are part of a couple.

If you are staying frugally, maybe you don't mind the longer drives to the courses, the hookers, the doors wedged shut with a chair, the animal hair all over the floor, etc. that come with that territory.

But when you've got a significant other and one or more kids, the equation totally changes. You can't divide the room rate by 4 because there are already 3 or more of you coming out of one pocketbook. You can't stay with a bunch of buddies because kid schedules and buddy schedules just don't mesh. You even probably get to a point where you really don't want to drag the kid(s) around the hookers and other sketchy sorts. AND you've got baby sitting to cover if both you and the sig. oth. play.

I think the host hotel remains a pretty good deal. Convenience, good beds, and safety cost something. Its the family and one-pocket perspective that changes the outlook!

(And yeah, I know what I'm talking about. We have 2 adults and 2 teens. 4 entries. 4 appetites (you know what male teenagers eat). And 3-4 different course assignments. Sigh.)

schraj
Jan 22 2009, 01:39 PM
**** I was able to get a hotel (Holiday Inn) for $43 a night in KC through Hotwire.

Look for a 3 star hotel in the Lexana area.

7584
Jan 26 2009, 04:22 PM
La Quinta Inn-North&amp;#8206;Address:
2214 Taney St
Kansas City, MO 64116
(816) 221-1200

$75 a night for a double. I stayed here during the KC Wide Open last year and thought it was worth coming back. Great hotel located five minutes from Water Works. Right off the highway easy to get to any of the other courses. Just wanted to let the disc golf world know that this hotel is nice, quite (depending on how many golfers are there), great location.

Being from Atlanta I am use to driving 70 + miles a day, so having to drive 30 minutes to a course is no big deal for me. The courses in KC are easy to get to for the most part and are not that far removed. If you are looking for options this hotel is a safe bet.

I wish I could make it to the Worlds this year. KC has some of the best courses in the country.

7584

RonSTL
Jan 26 2009, 08:55 PM
La Quinta Inn-North&amp;#8206;Address:
2214 Taney St
Kansas City, MO 64116
(816) 221-1200

$75 a night for a double. I stayed here during the KC Wide Open last year and thought it was worth coming back. Great hotel located five minutes from Water Works. Right off the highway easy to get to any of the other courses. Just wanted to let the disc golf world know that this hotel is nice, quite (depending on how many golfers are there), great location.

Being from Atlanta I am use to driving 70 + miles a day, so having to drive 30 minutes to a course is no big deal for me. The courses in KC are easy to get to for the most part and are not that far removed. If you are looking for options this hotel is a safe bet.

I wish I could make it to the Worlds this year. KC has some of the best courses in the country.

7584



Thanks for the info all ideas are good .

Thanks and peace,

rhett
Mar 30 2009, 01:45 PM
Howdy Worlds Team,

We are staying at the Host Hotel, and it does seem like a pretty good rate. BUT....it is only $1 less than the AAA rate.

I was wondering if you guys could push the hotel and try to get our parking comp'd and included in the tourney rate. I know that would make a nice dent in my Worlds budget and, to me, seems like a pretty reasonable concession since our group rate is only a buck less than AAA. Someone was throwing around a rate of $13 a day to park.

In any event, keep up the good work. It's just a suggestion for something to try and improve what's shaping up to be a great Worlds.

Thanks,
Rhett

Andy_MN
Mar 30 2009, 04:44 PM
Holiday Inn Hotel And Suites, Overland Park West MO

My gf and I got roundtrip airfare from Boise and 8 nights in hotel for $800. Anyone familiar with the area and distance to courses?

BaKDut
Apr 03 2009, 01:13 PM
. Someone was throwing around a rate of $13 a day to park.

Rhett



Just called them, $14 a day for parking at the Hotel. Never imagined hotel guests would be charged for parking....so theres another 84 bucks.

GDL
Apr 21 2009, 02:33 PM
check travelocity.com, there's lots of hotels that cut that host hotel rate in two, and have free parking to boot. I don't live in KC anymore, but I'm from there. There's no reason that you have to stay at the HH. Crown Center has gobs of parking (for visiting) that is free with validation from any store in the Crown Center Mall, or even the Hotel Bar. Staying there would be nice, but it's not necessary. If you're seeking luxury and high cost, stay at the host hotel. Otherwise check around the area. KC is not that hard to get around, especially in this era of GPS's and mapquest.

warlocks00
Apr 21 2009, 03:04 PM
Just a suggestion but....You guys should try booking through hotwire. I know you can't pick the hotel, but my wife did it this way and we ended up getting a room at the host hotel for a lot less than the regular price. Like almost half per night. Something to look into....

JerryChesterson
Apr 21 2009, 03:34 PM
That really isn't good if you can get a cheaper rate than what is being advertised through the tourney organizers.

Any comment from the folks runnign it?

exczar
Apr 21 2009, 06:13 PM
Warlock,

If you can't pick the hotel, how did you get a room at the host hotel? Was it just luck, or did you keep trying and cancelling until you got the host hotel?

If you got the host hotel on your first try, what parameters did you submit to the website (location, price, days, etc). If we use the same ones, we might get that price too.

Also, if you could give some info on your rate, we could probably go straight to the hotel and ask them if they could match that rate.

warlocks00
Apr 21 2009, 06:28 PM
Warlock,

If you can't pick the hotel, how did you get a room at the host hotel? Was it just luck, or did you keep trying and cancelling until you got the host hotel?

If you got the host hotel on your first try, what parameters did you submit to the website (location, price, days, etc). If we use the same ones, we might get that price too.

Also, if you could give some info on your rate, we could probably go straight to the hotel and ask them if they could match that rate.



I did not actually do it, my wife did.....but I will ask her what she did and let you guys know. I do know before she clicked the "do it" button, she said it was between 2 hotels in the area of the host hotel....and that it might actually end up being the host. I said just do it....and bam, it was the host. I don't think you have the option to cancel after you submit it, and I know you don't know the name of the hotel until after you make the reservation. So really it was just luck.....but my wife is pretty good with finding these deals. I'll see what I can find out tonight and post the info tomorrow.

warlocks00
Apr 23 2009, 11:23 AM
Ok, here is what she said she did.

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Okay I just checked it out and it is still there. They go to Hotwire.Com and then click on the Hotels tab at the top. Put in Kansas City, MO and dates and search it and then when it brings up the Hotels it is the second one listed. The description it gives on Hotwire is a 3 1/2 star in Downtown Kansas City and Crown Center. It is $62 per nt and the only hotel listed with a SPA for an amenity. It is there now, but like I said who knows for how long.

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Good luck....

JerryChesterson
Apr 23 2009, 12:43 PM
Are you sure it was the Westin Crown Center? If so I am cancelling my regular reservation and doing this one.

warlocks00
Apr 23 2009, 06:50 PM
Are you sure it was the Westin Crown Center?



As sure as I can be without driving up and actually seeing the sign. ;) I posted the info on the Texans at Worlds thread, and someone said they have already booked it as well. So I assume as long as it's the same discription, it will be the right hotel. I guess if you don't feel comfortable with it you can just keep the reservation you have?

LouMoreno
Apr 23 2009, 09:19 PM
Ok, here is what she said she did.

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Okay I just checked it out and it is still there. They go to Hotwire.Com and then click on the Hotels tab at the top. Put in Kansas City, MO and dates and search it and then when it brings up the Hotels it is the second one listed. The description it gives on Hotwire is a 3 1/2 star in Downtown Kansas City and Crown Center. It is $62 per nt and the only hotel listed with a SPA for an amenity. It is there now, but like I said who knows for how long.

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Good luck....



I got it at $59 per night. Thanks, Jason.

atreau3
Apr 23 2009, 09:30 PM
I did this through orbits yesterday at noon. I called the hotel to verify, and the receptionist said she had never seen it so low. booked it and confirmed the lower rate.

JerryChesterson
Apr 24 2009, 09:22 AM
I'll be doing this today and cancelling my normal reservation!

warlocks00
Apr 24 2009, 10:31 AM
I got it at $59 per night. Thanks, Jason.



Glad to help!

Jroc
Apr 24 2009, 12:03 PM
grrrr...forgot to do this last night. I better get on it tonight before it disappears!!

rhett
Apr 24 2009, 12:36 PM
Ok, here is what she said she did.

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Okay I just checked it out and it is still there. They go to Hotwire.Com and then click on the Hotels tab at the top. Put in Kansas City, MO and dates and search it and then when it brings up the Hotels it is the second one listed. The description it gives on Hotwire is a 3 1/2 star in Downtown Kansas City and Crown Center. It is $62 per nt and the only hotel listed with a SPA for an amenity. It is there now, but like I said who knows for how long.

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Good luck....



This is confirmed for real. I tried Orbitz first with the lure of the $59 rate, but the Westin wasn't listed.

Went to HotWire and looked for the 3.5 star hotel in "Downtown/Crown Center" with a Spa and got the $69 rate. It's the Westin.

Sorry Worlds Team, but I just saved over $600 on my 9 night stay. I'm sure you understand.

JerryChesterson
Apr 24 2009, 01:01 PM
Sorry Worlds Team, but I just saved over $600 on my 9 night stay. I'm sure you understand.



Same here. $69 is darn near Scottish Inn rates! :p

Jroc
Apr 24 2009, 01:02 PM
I would think the Worlds team wouldnt care; this will only serve to get more folks at their event. I guess once these "bid for" rooms are taken, the rest will have to take the Worlds rate for the blocked off rooms. I hope they're still around tonight....

shakenbake54
Apr 24 2009, 02:36 PM
Ok, here is what she said she did.

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Okay I just checked it out and it is still there. They go to Hotwire.Com and then click on the Hotels tab at the top. Put in Kansas City, MO and dates and search it and then when it brings up the Hotels it is the second one listed. The description it gives on Hotwire is a 3 1/2 star in Downtown Kansas City and Crown Center. It is $62 per nt and the only hotel listed with a SPA for an amenity. It is there now, but like I said who knows for how long.

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Good luck....



This is confirmed for real. I tried Orbitz first with the lure of the $59 rate, but the Westin wasn't listed.

Went to HotWire and looked for the 3.5 star hotel in "Downtown/Crown Center" with a Spa and got the $69 rate. It's the Westin.

Sorry Worlds Team, but I just saved over $600 on my 9 night stay. I'm sure you understand.



I got mine for $59. If you plug in Saturday to Saturday it's $69, but if you plug in Sunday to Saturday the rate is $59

rhett
Apr 24 2009, 04:12 PM
I got mine for $59. If you plug in Saturday to Saturday it's $69, but if you plug in Sunday to Saturday the rate is $59



Crap. We're staying Friday through two Sundays. I could've just made three reservations and saved more dough! D'oh!

rhett
Apr 24 2009, 04:15 PM
I would think the Worlds team wouldnt care; this will only serve to get more folks at their event. I guess once these "bid for" rooms are taken, the rest will have to take the Worlds rate for the blocked off rooms. I hope they're still around tonight....



They probably do care since these kinds of hotel deals with an event usually have incentives like "free meeting space if X number of rooms are booked through your group."

They now have one less reservation through the group. Sorry.

warlocks00
Apr 24 2009, 05:49 PM
I just saved over $600 on my 9 night stay.




And my fee is only a beer! :p

rhett
Apr 24 2009, 07:03 PM
And my fee is only a beer! :p



Let's meet at the Host Hotel and I'll gladly pay up. :)

JerryChesterson
Apr 24 2009, 08:20 PM
And my fee is only a beer! :p



Let's meet at the Host Hotel and I'll gladly pay up. :)



Dito!

Paul Taylor
Apr 25 2009, 11:07 PM
And my fee is only a beer! :p



Let's meet at the Host Hotel and I'll gladly pay up. :)



Dito!



You don't have to do it at the Host Hotel, you can do it on the 18th green. The tournament directors don't mind.

;) :eek: ;)

warlocks00
Apr 27 2009, 10:32 AM
And my fee is only a beer! :p



Let's meet at the Host Hotel and I'll gladly pay up. :)



Dito!



Sounds like a deal to me.

Jroc
Apr 27 2009, 01:17 PM
Got mine last night for $69 a night. More to spend at the fly-mart now!!

If there are a lot of incentives tied to how many sign up, i hope this doesnt negativly affect the Worlds team. But $600 savings is $600 savings....you just cant pass that up. At the beginning of the year, this whole trip was uncertain because of host hotel lodging cost. Now, its easily pheasible. Guess I'll have to buy Jason a beer as well :D

warlocks00
Apr 27 2009, 02:45 PM
Guess I'll have to buy Jason a beer as well :D



Oh no....for you it's 2 beers :eek:
;) :D
Glad they still had rooms available at that price for you Jerry.

jackinkc
May 01 2009, 04:26 PM
Those are GREAT deals, and I for one am not about to stop you from working on getting those deals. All I ask is that if you do get these rooms, that you call the hotel after getting the deal, and let them know that you are a disc golfer. When I asked about it, they said that they do work with some internet vendors, but also at times your hotel may be moved, so there is no guarantee that you will be at the Westin. Also that they were small in the numbers that they made available. (I am trying to get a lower rate, but.....)

The bottom line is that if 4 people get a room, you are looking about $35/night + taxes, you are going to be at a GREAT place to stay, have all the events right there, and really be part of something special this year. This hotel will work with us, we are going to have baskets all over the place, and you are only going to leave to play your rounds, then come back and enjoy the area.

I can not say enough how great this property is, yeah it seems a little pricey, but really this is your vacation and you want to spend it a HoJo? I don't think so. So go ahead and try to get a good deal if you can, but I would ask that you let me know (PM please) that you went in under a different plan.

Many of the rooms that we reserved, Fly-Mart, Players Meeting, were based on the room block that we went with, if we don't hit that number, guess what.....it hurts the payout, so your really cheating the rest of the group by not staying at the hotel. (those of you with the cheapie rates still count!!) So plan on staying at the Westin, and lets make this place the best 5-star disc golf hotel the world has ever seen! Its going to be great, and I am also working on a plan for those people staying at the hotel under the regular rate to have your room taken care of the entire stay through a raffle, but that is only if we get to the number of blocked rooms.....so you may be able to stay at the hotel for FREE....not a penny.....but you have to be staying at the room, and we will make the announcement at the Players Party on Friday night.

So...the choice you see is all of you reading this. If we don't hit the room block reserve, we pay for renting the rooms, if we do, then it doesn't affect payout......IDK, but I think that you owe it to yourself to help out all of disc golf this year at the worlds. We can make or break our name at this place, its really up to you!

keithjohnson
May 01 2009, 08:45 PM
Speaking from expierence - If your marketing person, or hotel contact person will give you the list of names that are booked for that time frame, you can check them off against known disc golfers to make sure EVERYONE counts.

I did this in Miami, and only about 60% of the golfers said they were golfers or there for the Event when booking. I was able to show them that over 75% of their hotel nights for that week were Disc Golfers by cross checking the names with signups.
Even though it bit me in the rear because of my own stupidity in not charging the players more for their rooms when the original hotel switched us 2 months out and the new one charged ME 13 dollars a night more (times 811 room nights) - the stuff they did to make things great for the golfers was well appreciated.

So do make sure to check those lists and you should EASILY hit your numbers with a COMBINED Worlds - unless you guaranteed 700 rooms :)

Keith

jackinkc
May 06 2009, 05:33 PM
Its been about a week, and no one has responded to me with their names and information.....again if you get these deals great, just PLEASE let me know. I am glad that people are able to save some serious cash, but if you are lucky enough to get it, just let us know......

jarmiller
May 06 2009, 09:01 PM
The best place to go is hotels.com. I got a room there for $80 a night at the Sheraton Suites Country Club. Super nice suite and can sleep 4-6. It has 2 doubles and a sofa pull out. On top of that the host hotel is less then 3 miles away so we can take a cab. 80 is more then we wanted to spend but it's better then 135.

jackinkc
May 07 2009, 04:20 PM
I got a few notes on the PM, THANK YOU!!!!

I don't know, but the best place to stay is still the host hotel, and if people are getting serious about winning a title, trying to put 6 people in the room with you is sorta Waltonish, I guess you are better than I, I think that 4 is the max I can do unless you get 2 bathrooms, then I could see 6.....

jarmiller
May 07 2009, 08:01 PM
Oh there won't be 6 in my room, just 2. All I was saying is that you could fit 6. Its a suite, not a regular hotel room. Wish I could stay at the host hotel but I'm in the automotive industry so I'm lucky to be going at all.

keithjohnson
May 07 2009, 09:08 PM
Its been about a week, and no one has responded to me with their names and information.....again if you get these deals great, just PLEASE let me know. I am glad that people are able to save some serious cash, but if you are lucky enough to get it, just let us know......

If you do what I suggested, you don't need anyone to tell you anything. :)

Heidi
May 08 2009, 04:01 PM
I just booked at the Westin (feel free to call and tell them I'm a disc golfer if that helps!) for $75 a night on hotwire. The price went up, but it is still on there following the same directions. If any WOMEN want to share a room, let me know and we can split the cost making it even less. I'm gonna be there from Sat 25th - Sat 1st. I don't smoke anything, so that's out in my room (just FYI). PM me or email me at heidinicole@gmail.com if you want to try to room together.

Heidi Tesch

wyattcoggin
May 09 2009, 09:53 AM
Sorry to change the subject but did not know where else to ask this question.

How often is the player list updated. 114 am 36 pros. in past years the numbers are higher by this time.

jackinkc
May 13 2009, 03:37 PM
Keep on booking them up folks, its going to be a great place to stay!!!

The PDGA handles all registration and updates, so I have no answers for that question!

chappyfade
May 14 2009, 02:57 PM
Sorry to change the subject but did not know where else to ask this question.

How often is the player list updated. 114 am 36 pros. in past years the numbers are higher by this time.

PDGA handles registration updates, but from now on, they should be occurring once a week. The last update took about 3 weeks, but they should be coming every week now, probably on Mondays.

Chap

g1iguy
May 15 2009, 04:46 PM
Jack I just went to book through the link from the worlds page. When you enter 4 people in one room the price jumps to $184.00 per night.

petershive
May 18 2009, 10:47 AM
I stayed in a Value Place in St Louis a couple weeks ago. It was very nice. I got a "suite" with a kitchenette (stove, refrigerator, microwave and sink). You can easily put two in the suite, but more would be a tight fit.

Value Place has four locations in Kansas City. I have reserved a similar suite at the Mission location for $169 for a week. That works out to about $24 a day, and I will also be able to save money by cooking in the room.

If you want to do this, be sure to bring basic cooking utensils (place setting, saucepan, frying pan, scrubber, etc). They will sell these to you for $50, but they won't rent them.

jackinkc
May 18 2009, 11:53 AM
Jack I just went to book through the link from the worlds page. When you enter 4 people in one room the price jumps to $184.00 per night.

Call them they will change the price point.

Remember if you don't stay at the host hotel, it will come out of some payout somehow, or a bigger charge. We are at about 1/3 of the way full of the book requirements, so please keep on booking the host hotel, it will be the best place to stay all week

GDL
May 29 2009, 05:38 PM
Homestead Studio Suites, 74.99/night in Merriam for double double with kitchenette. Good access to the KS courses that MA1 will be playing and prolly about 10 minutes from Crown Center.

RhynoBoy
May 31 2009, 07:44 PM
Cool! I just booked with Hotwire and got $63/night at Westin Crown Center. Thanks for the info. Is there some way I need to let them know I am a discgolfer, so it will count towards how many reservations they need?

GDL
Jun 03 2009, 09:44 AM
Homestead Studio Suites, 74.99/night in Merriam for double double with kitchenette. Good access to the KS courses that MA1 will be playing and prolly about 10 minutes from Crown Center.

OK, I bit. After making this reservation, the accountant in me went to hotwire to check out the skinny. Long story short, cancelled the HSS res, and booked the Hotwire deal at the Westin. Not sure if it's been said, but note that you are charged immediately for the room, and the terms say that the hotel reserves the right to charge additional fees.

rhett
Jun 03 2009, 06:34 PM
Not sure if it's been said, but note that you are charged immediately for the room, and the terms say that the hotel reserves the right to charge additional fees.

Parking is $13 or $14 a day. :( But you are gonna get charged that whether you pay $139 or $60.

My total comes out to about $80 a day including taxes before the parking charges.

jackinkc
Jun 03 2009, 06:43 PM
its still going to be a blast, and by far the best hotel venue world's has seen......maybe not the most scenic, but it wants for nothing for you and your family.

Keep on booking them up folks!!!

Thanks,

Jack

GDL
Jun 04 2009, 03:57 PM
IDK Jack, regarding the view. For those couples coming, the Skies restaurant is a nice romantic place, with an awesome view of the KC skyline. I haven't been there since high school, (20 years ago), but it's always been a KC icon, and is basically right across the street from the Host Hotel.
http://www.skieskc.com/about.htm

Also, going to the top of the Liberty Memorial is something I've always wanted to do. This may be the time to do it. Mini throwing contest off the top of the Liberty Memorial? (Whoops, did I say that out loud?)

A museum that I have been to, and really like is the Arabia Steamboat museum. It's a privately funded archaelogical wonder. A steamboat carrying every kind of supply you can imagine back in the late 1800's sank in the Missouri River. It was found in a field, as the river bed shifted, and excavated just in the last 20 years or so I believe. Awesome story behind the find. If you're a history buff, you won't want to miss this. It's amazing how well the items found were preserved lying buried in the mud/silt for about 100 years. Neat story of the steamboat and the museum on the website below. Check it out.
http://www.1856.com/

jackinkc
Jun 08 2009, 03:22 PM
Alright, folks, we need about 70-80 people to step up and make a reservation at the host hotel. We are close to hitting our target number, but the reservation deadline is fast approaching.

Also I can't believe in all the talking about wheeling and dealing and getting a cheaper rate that only 8 people have notified me that they took advantage of the Hotwire deal. Really, a rate that cheap, and you folks here in cyberspace did not take full advantage of it?

Really?

Let me know. Really, only 8 took advantage of it.....
WOW

Wallace Lee Gator
Jun 09 2009, 01:42 PM
Dont think that hotwire deal is still up.

Luke Butch
Jun 09 2009, 10:36 PM
Alright, folks, we need about 70-80 people to step up and make a reservation at the host hotel. We are close to hitting our target number, but the reservation deadline is fast approaching.

Also I can't believe in all the talking about wheeling and dealing and getting a cheaper rate that only 8 people have notified me that they took advantage of the Hotwire deal. Really, a rate that cheap, and you folks here in cyberspace did not take full advantage of it?

Really?

Let me know. Really, only 8 took advantage of it.....
WOW

you sound really bitter over this whole situation, when it is clearly the worlds host team who made a poor judgment call. $140/night for disc golfers....lol


why would anyone pay hundreds more to stay at the host hotel when it might earn them $20 more of payout?

(paging the_kid) Maybe if those outside of the top 6 or so would actually profit from attending our sports world championships, more people could afford to stay at the host hotel?

rocguy77
Jun 09 2009, 11:57 PM
i don't think he sounds bitter at all, in fact, knowing jack as i do, i'd say he's a little disappointed, as it sounds like everyone and their brother got the hotwire deal, yet only 8 people have notified him.

maybe if all the people that got the hotwire deal notified jack, that post never would've been made. just a guess.

JerryChesterson
Jun 10 2009, 09:21 AM
Alright, folks, we need about 70-80 people to step up and make a reservation at the host hotel. We are close to hitting our target number, but the reservation deadline is fast approaching.

Also I can't believe in all the talking about wheeling and dealing and getting a cheaper rate that only 8 people have notified me that they took advantage of the Hotwire deal. Really, a rate that cheap, and you folks here in cyberspace did not take full advantage of it?

Really?

Let me know. Really, only 8 took advantage of it.....
WOW
Jack I think I PM'd you but just to be sure. I got the hotwire deal.
PDGA# 33341

jackinkc
Jun 10 2009, 02:10 PM
No I am not bitter. But I am getting some more notes from people, so thank you. Parking for disc golfers is actually $7/day for the event.

So on the host hotel, I have spoken this over and over, but let me re-emphasize this AGAIN......the past few worlds we have had to drive to EVERYTHING, players meeting one location, fly mart another, registration another.....I hated it, and heard from many people that this sucked as well, this was at the Pro and Am Worlds that I have been to.

Now I could have found a hotel big enough to host us for a little less money say $99, but with the whopping $35/day savings we would have had to find an alternate location for the players meeting, the fly mart, etc.....so if you have a choice to spend $150 over the week to drive around and worry about getting lost and traveling to multiple locations, or just staying put and not having to worry about anything but your game what would you do?

It just makes sense to have everything at one location. You want the sport to grow, people have to see our money and our efforts in one location. I can guarantee you that this event will give may people in the future of hosting the event a measureable component for occupancy and what we can do to help a hotel in thier costs. Think 2012, I know that the property here is anxious to see what we do to see if it makes sense for them to bid on the future events. Once we have an established record in ONE PROPERTY for ONE EVENT we will get better deals, and in turn have better events. But we haven't really done that since Des Moines, and the Des Moines property wasn't big enough to house all of us. We only get bigger by making ourselves known. We are a force to be reckoned with, but if we are spread thin, then no one knows about us except us.

I am not bitter, and I did not think that all 1000+ players would stay at the hotel. I did think that we would get to 200 rooms though, and we are not even 1/2 there, and that is disappointing. I understand the price points are higher than many of us like to pay, but I also know that I did not want to go to a different location every night for a different item.

AS it stands right now here is what you get to do from the hotel, with minimal effort:
Register--Sat-Mon
Field events--Sun (just up the hill from hotel)
Players Meeting--Mon
Under par Talent show--Tues
Fly-Mart--Wed
Pub Crawl--Thu
Players Party @ Grinders--Fri (less than 5 blocks from hotel)

So you wanna do your own thing, thats cool, I get it. But in the long run until we all agree that we are an entity and we act accordingly we aer really just preventing us from moving on with more sponsors, and word of mouth with the community that we bring these events to. We can make a difference, but we have to make some simple sacrifices and unfortunately spending a little more money on one of the TOP hotels in the area is something that can help. I got a list more of 15 people now that got that rate. The room blocks that we had were not part of the Hot Wire/Orbitz, etc.....deals. With us only about 1/2 full at the event and our blocks expiring June 29th, there may be more opening at that time. If you get the deal, all that I ask is that you let them know when you check in, and let me know as well.

We are also giving away a $100 gift certificate to the restaraunt Benton's to one lucky person staying in the hotel. Also I did get a note yesterday about some issues that some of you may have had.

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I wanted to let you know on the additional rooms for July 23, 24, and 25 that we do not have a large amount of rooms with 2 double beds. We do have the rooms you requested, but they are mostly king beds. This is due to another program that is finishing up their conference on those days. They are taking the majority of the rooms with doubles over that time frame. Please let me know if you have any questions.



Thanks,



tara o'leary sales manager westin crown center

I am not bitter, I just really want to make this week vacation for all but a handful of world champions one to remember. This is time off work for many, and I feel that most of us are tired of sleeping on couches, hard beds, and uncomfortable locations. This place has it all. They will have a quick breakfast package ready for the people leaving in the morning on the go, you can come back and relax and get ready for the evening activities.

Its going to be a good time. If you are at the hotel, you'll probably have a better time, but if your not, you'll be visiting the hotel enough to know what you missed, and be mad at yourself.

We will make it great, but its only as good as you make it once it is all said and done.

Keep those notes coming if you are staying at the hotel at the Internet discount, unfortunately those people on that plan will not be eiligible for the dinner coupon, but it still counts towards our goals.

Its less than 7 weeks away, and if you haven't signed up yet you are missing it. Get here, sign up, and get here now!!

RhynoBoy
Jun 10 2009, 02:23 PM
Yeah I called the Westin and told them I was with the PDGA Pro/Am Worlds, I don't know if that meant anything, I also booked with hotwire

Chris Tyler
#25457

rhett
Jun 10 2009, 02:46 PM
Is the $7 parking available to the HotWire disc golfers? Are there any other discounts or benefits that haven't been made known?

I originally booked at the tourney rate. I had trouble adding the preceeding Friday and Saturday at that rate so I booked those days for a dollar a night more at the AAA rate. Then the HotWire deal appeared and I jumped on that, saving about $600 over the length of my stay.

I posted that I took the HotWire deal a while ago and was assuming you were counting me.

jackinkc
Jun 10 2009, 02:50 PM
I believe so, the hotel after you check in should have something put together for the list of names of people staying. I was reading the contract with them and it did not indicate anything about it that would indicate that would not be the case.

Thanks Rhett!

wyattcoggin
Jun 10 2009, 03:41 PM
i just read the post about the price of parking you have to be jokingi! also doubles on saturday was left out of all the fun things we can do near the hotel. due to which adds two days to our stay at the host hotel which is not in the blocked out time frame. keep in mind those of us that are parents of JR. disc golfers mostly only attend the players meeting and fly mart. this is Andrews third wold championship and looks like the most costly todate.

JerryChesterson
Jun 10 2009, 03:51 PM
Really people are complaining about parking fees? Is this your first trip to a major metropolitan area? $7 is as cheap as downtown parking gets.

wyattcoggin
Jun 10 2009, 10:37 PM
Really people are complaining about parking fees? Is this your first trip to a major metropolitan area? $7 is as cheap as downtown parking gets.

i'm not sure how to take your post.

yes I am complaining about paying to park at a motel. i paid to park in battlecreek by choice a nicer hotel closer to Andrews course than the host hotel. ( above was valet parking ) so i hope we are not talking about valet parking you have to add tipping the attendent to the $7 .

guess i have been lucky empolyers have never charged me to park. i seldom go to downtown areas

i live out side of town on a private 9 hole disc golf course
.
i prefer privacy and not right next to other houses.

jackinkc
Jun 11 2009, 11:37 AM
I completely understand, and I thank you for stepping outside of your comfort zone. Kansas City disc golf is mostly in urban areas, and one of the great features of the Worlds this year with the hotel venue is that you will get to explore part of that culture that makes Kansas City great. I feel that exposing people to the wonders that are Kansas City may help you want to return to the Wide Open or just come and visit. We have a lot to offer and the last worlds in 2003 having us out in the “burbs” were not as ideal as I would have liked.

Now don't get me wrong, KC is not exactly a hotbed of cosmopolitan activity, but we do have enough to enjoy. I lived in downtown Chicago for about 10 years, and these prices are small in comparison, but drastically higher than what we are accustomed to. But there are trade off that I think many people miss......for example our airport is international, easy to get to, and price point wise one of the cheapest destinations available. With over 54 million people living within a 500 mile radius of Kansas City, and us having the most highway lanes per capita than any other large metropolitan area in the US, many can drive in a day on a single tank of gas to this destination. Some of those comfy features get lost, we are easy to get to and that helps out in lost time, destination anxiety, and just overall sense of ease while traveling.

You know this is the World Championship's. This is not a A-B-C Tier or an NT. This is a destination this year for your hard work, and a chance to shine. It is your vacation time, it is a chance to play disc golf on some if not the best courses collectively within the world with some of the most diverse challenges that we can create. Are there better individual courses out there, sure. But to find a collective group of courses this well balanced, and accessible within a 30 mile radius, well I challenge you to find the area and let me know, we can debate that over a Bell’s at the hotel I’d love to hear your location.

Kansas City has always been great about being hospitable to our visitors for our events. This is something different that has not been done yet, and hopefully will be repeated in the future. This is going to be a great week, and yeah with the economy in the tank for most of us, it is not as cheap as some of the past venues. But in order to secure this type of situation, this hotel was determined back in August of 2007. Planning and ensuring that the little details are taken care of for you is the #1 priority for us, and this hotel allows us to focus on other avenues to ensure your event is ready for you to play. It is about you, and I never forget that, but I always want to make sure that people have good options. So if you must, think of it as a small payment to the work that the Kansas City Staff has done to ensure your happiness. Is that worth $10-$20/day per room…..I think so.

Those of you from 2003 may remember that the host hotel had some new "remodeling" that was completed and yet your room A/C did not work......I don't want anyone to be uncomfortable in the room after the round. This hotel ensures that customer satisfaction, and that allows us to focus on other items for you. Price wise this hotel pricing is the same as it was in 2003 money, and though the Holiday Inn last time was $20/night cheaper their rates went up, and percentage wise this is the same difference in rates, so to me I was not going to let you stay in a substandard hotel and worry about that.

Now we just need to get about 50-60 people of the remaining 500 that need to sign up to book rooms for the week, and we will be all set with our goal to the hotel. If you can I would appreciate your supporting of our efforts that we took to decide on a property that can encompass all that you need, and not just keep your concerns on the wallet, but think about the rest of the week, and how much time you will now have to do other things to enjoy Kansas City instead of taking advantage of our highways that have over 50% more roadways to travel on. I'd rather see you enjoy something about Kansas City instead of your windshield. Like meeting some of the great people we have here!

Again, I appreciate all that many are doing to help ensure that the KCFDC looks good in the eyes of the community that we live. We are the ambassadors of the sport, and when we show how much fun we can have in a top notch venue, it will be easier for us to get that business in other communities to support our events, which is after all what many of us want correct? As many people run events, you could very easily have your hotel possibility call the Westin and get information that you can use to help you with your events in the future. We need that, we are an event to be considered high level, and I want others to use this in the future to help their events.

I for one hope that this event exceeds everything that you are looking to accomplish, and you end up having some of the best disc golf tournament of your life.

Only time will tell, and only you can make it happen, so I need you here. I can not wait to be here for your service!!

Thanks,

Jack

rhett
Jun 11 2009, 02:49 PM
Mike Kvasnicka and Chris Carpenter from SoCal got in on the HotWire deal, but they don't post here, so add them to your list Jack. I think they are traveling together and splitting a room, so it should be under one of their names. Hopefully that puts you one closer.

jackinkc
Jun 11 2009, 04:10 PM
Thanks Rhett!!

Keep em coming folks. Like I said we get credit for the rooms booked this way as well.

keithjohnson
Jun 11 2009, 10:20 PM
You can lead a TD to water......

wyattcoggin
Jun 12 2009, 07:57 AM
I

I always want to make sure that people have good options. So if you must, think of it as a small payment to the work that the Kansas City Staff has done to ensure your happiness. Is that worth $10-$20/day per room�..I think so.


Jack

Andrew has attended 2006, 2007,2008 and now 2009 Worlds (yes with his mother and I. so that is everthing times 3).

The reason some of us are upset about the hotel selection is as follows

2008 by choice stayed at a four (4) hotel $89 a night plus valet parking three nights at $10. use public deck other nights $2. a night. (This was to reward my wife for be the best none Disc Golfer, Disc golf mom in the world)

I can not remember the nightly fee the other years but I don't remember paying more than $70. a night. and there was no parking fee.

Sorry I said all that to show it's more than $10-$20 a day.

The cost is not a real issue to me. I can afford it. But there are a lot of people out there that can not.


PS I still fill like you guys are call me some kind of HIC, Redneck, use which ever applies best for your area.

I have traveled more than I let on, details where not need for the Discussion board.

Joseph
Jun 12 2009, 04:04 PM
Is the hotwire deal still available? If so, there are no refunds correct? I will have to find a deal like that one if I am gonna stay on site.

mannyd_928
Jun 12 2009, 06:29 PM
Wyatt,
I wouldn't worry too much about what other people say or even think about you. Those of us that know you personally, know that your not a hick or a redneck. Your a decent human being with legitimate concerns. With all due respect for the Worlds staff, I can't afford to stay at the host hotel either. It sounds like a great place to stay and the convenience level is unheard of, but $135 a night is just not in the budget. Even with the Hotwire deal it's still too much. When it comes right down to it, I've got 5 of us that I've got to provide for a whole 2 weeks on the road. And when your not splitting costs with anyone, that can get real expensive. We'll be staying down the road a little ways, but not so far that I can't make it to any of the planned events or to any of the courses from where we're at. Kudos though, to the Worlds team for being able to line up a top notch place for everyone. See you all in a few weeks in KC!!!....Manny

wyattcoggin
Jun 15 2009, 02:15 PM
Wyatt,
I wouldn't worry too much about what other people say or even think about you. Those of us that know you personally, know that your not a hick or a redneck. Your a decent human being with legitimate concerns. With all due respect for the Worlds staff, I can't afford to stay at the host hotel either. It sounds like a great place to stay and the convenience level is unheard of, but $135 a night is just not in the budget. Even with the Hotwire deal it's still too much. When it comes right down to it, I've got 5 of us that I've got to provide for a whole 2 weeks on the road. And when your not splitting costs with anyone, that can get real expensive. We'll be staying down the road a little ways, but not so far that I can't make it to any of the planned events or to any of the courses from where we're at. Kudos though, to the Worlds team for being able to line up a top notch place for everyone. See you all in a few weeks in KC!!!....Manny

Thanks Manny, people tell me not to take post on the board to heart. I don't I'm the guy that hits reply all just to emails just for the fun of it.

I understand in this day and time. with disussions board and email people no long stop and think before they type. I like to remind people to think.

What you said is how I live. I treat people the way I what them to treat me at first. if they treat me different I treat them differant.

can't wait to see you and the boy's, and the lovely ladies of the family.

wish you could stay the host hotel. we did not last year and missed all our friends.

jackinkc
Jun 15 2009, 06:45 PM
I don't think that anyone is a Hick or a redneck from reading a post. Its simply typing at a box. People thought I was irritated, wasn't.....at any rate.....

A gentle reminder that the worlds price is only valid until June 28th and then you are at the call of the hotel. I understand that many of you feel the price is too high, I might suggest staying at the host for a few nights, instead of the entire week, but its your call.

Right now we have 601 people signed up. If you know you are coming, I would suggest getting your room booked. The hotel is going to be the place to be, you really don't wanna miss it do you..... I love the line above....
"wish you could stay the host hotel. we did not last year and missed all our friends"

Its really worth it, it is your vacation and our reunion, why miss it over some money. The point about the room being $10-$20 more was the price points I was getting from other properties that could handle this many people, not saying it against the other events, but then again this is the biggest city that has housed the worlds since Minneapolis......

Still looking forward to a great week with you all regardless of where you stay!!

Thanks,

Jack

wyattcoggin
Jun 15 2009, 10:54 PM
I was one of the first to book a room at the host hotel. All my comments have been to try help the KC Team understand why people are complaining. there is no way I would book two hotels. it's bad enough that we have a none blocked room thurday and friday night and then have to move to our blocked room on saturday night. Due to Doubles taking place on saturday. and blocked room start on saturday. I understand how hard planning is. I just retired at 47 yrs old as a engineer/project manager for a major auto / Truck Manufacture (DTNA).

I know you guys have put a lot of hard work into this World Championship. As the father of a repete world champion I think I can speak for Andrew and say he will remember this Worlds the rest of his life win, lose or draw.

for myself I have my own memory's of each World Championship we have gone to. I play but not at this level.


I do Thank each and everone of you who have taken on this great task. I know you have, and will do your best to make it the best ever.

as a caddie and spectator I look forward to watching the Best players in world once again.

warlocks00
Jun 16 2009, 08:49 AM
he will remember this Worlds the rest of his life win, lose or draw. .

This will be my first worlds, and I can promise you this will be something I remember for the rest of my life as well....Plus who knows if I will ever make it back to one.

I play but not at this level..

Me either! :D

wyattcoggin
Jun 16 2009, 11:40 AM
Now that we are finish talking about hotels (i Hope) lets talk about the World Championship

I so glade this is your first, and hope not your last.

IN tulsa 2006 I got to talking to this big loud guy by the pool. as we talked we found out that he lived 1 hour and 1/2 from me. still to day one of the best friends I have ever had.
(yes Manny Big Rock)

I still get Pm and emails from people all over the country. Manny even watchs Big Rock and I shoot it out at tournaments here in NC all the way from AZ.

IMHO The PDGA world championship is the greatest sporting event in the world. maybe due Disc Golf being the best sport. But you can not forget about the people that make up the sport. you are going to make life long friends. And please make it point to meet some of the internations Disc Golfer. One more great memory from 2007 was meeting Team Japan.

In the past there has always been a thread for people to voice (type) there picks for winners so let me start that one

Here are some of my picks

Boys 16 and under is Nate Fellows.
boys 10 and under is nick Duran 2 time Jr World champion 10 and under.
Mens Adv is David Wiggins Jr. 5 time Jr World Champion.

These three young men are not only great Disc Golfer they are great off the course.

One thing that make this event so great is you guys that are playing are playing for your State, There is a lot of state Rivalries. But remember your also playing for your country


Go Team USA.

jarmiller
Jun 16 2009, 12:20 PM
Hotel disagreements aside, all I've heard for the last 3 years is KC is the place to be for World's. So I can't wait, because I know these guys will take care of us. Even though I'll probably be in the bottom 50 this was one World's I couldn't miss. See ya soon.

JerryChesterson
Jun 16 2009, 02:10 PM
OPEN MEN: Eric McCabe (he's baaaaaaack)
OPEN WOMEN: Des Reading (she's baaaaaack)

dwiggmd
Jun 16 2009, 03:11 PM
Now that we are finish talking about hotels (i Hope) lets talk about the World Championship

I so glade this is your first, and hope not your last.

IN tulsa 2006 I got to talking to this big loud guy by the pool. as we talked we found out that he lived 1 hour and 1/2 from me. still to day one of the best friends I have ever had.
(yes Manny Big Rock)

I still get Pm and emails from people all over the country. Manny even watchs Big Rock and I shoot it out at tournaments here in NC all the way from AZ.

IMHO The PDGA world championship is the greatest sporting event in the world. maybe due Disc Golf being the best sport. But you can not forget about the people that make up the sport. you are going to make life long friends. And please make it point to meet some of the internations Disc Golfer. One more great memory from 2007 was meeting Team Japan.

In the past there has always been a thread for people to voice (type) there picks for winners so let me start that one

Here are some of my picks

Boys 16 and under is Nate Fellows.
boys 10 and under is nick Duran 2 time Jr World champion 10 and under.
Mens Adv is David Wiggins Jr. 5 time Jr World Champion.

These three young men are not only great Disc Golfer they are great off the course.

One thing that make this event so great is you guys that are playing are playing for your State, There is a lot of state Rivalries. But remember your also playing for your country


Go Team USA.
Don't forget Boys 13 and under Andrew Coggin - I'll give 20:1 odds on that one

wyattcoggin
Jun 16 2009, 03:31 PM
Thanks David. He plans on doing his best to getting another world title for Scientific Disc golf.

Enjoyed visiting with you yesterday.

We need to do that more often.

GDL
Jun 17 2009, 04:28 PM
I fail to see where anyone is calling or insinuating that you're a redneck or a hick. Now if your name was Whistlebritches or something, I might have chimed in with a Jeff Foxworthy joke or two......I mean, hell, you do live in North Carolina, I thought being a redneck was a prerequisite.





Just kiddin', I grew up in WV, so I got nowhere's to talk.


Jack, I assume that you got me----I got the hotwire dealio, and Rusty Channon is staying with me.............#17921

jackinkc
Jun 17 2009, 05:16 PM
Jay I got you down on the list. I have a list now of 21 people that have indicated that they got into the hotel with the "hotwire deal" or "Orbitz" deal.

Book em on up folks. Please make your time here in KC even better.

dwiggmd
Jun 17 2009, 07:11 PM
Me too hotwire

RhynoBoy
Jun 17 2009, 07:15 PM
Do you need more room bookings, or more people? I might have a couple guys stay with me.

wyattcoggin
Jun 17 2009, 09:26 PM
I fail to see where anyone is calling or insinuating that you're a redneck or a hick. Now if your name was Whistlebritches or something, I might have chimed in with a Jeff Foxworthy joke or two......I mean, hell, you do live in North Carolina, I thought being a redneck was a prerequisite.





Just kiddin', I grew up in WV, so I got nowhere's to talk.


Jack, I assume that you got me----I got the hotwire dealio, and Rusty Channon is staying with me.............#17921

yes your are Right I was born and rased and plan on being buried in the great state of NORTH CAROLINA. And I have a the southern draw to prove it. it was the

" Is this your first trip to a major metropolitan area? ."

That got me going. I did not see what my travel history had to do with the price of parking.

Please the above is an attempt at another joke. if I would make a statement like to my old ECON professor it would be a three hour lecture.

AS a side note I have a lot of friend that grew up in WV. Some of the Jokes are wrong.


Just to tie in to an earlier post I made. just got the phone with PopaRoc. Met him for the first time in Tulsa 2006.

exczar
Jun 18 2009, 01:44 PM
He really needs more bookings, but if what you pay goes up as you add people in your room, that can't hurt.

jackinkc
Jun 18 2009, 02:31 PM
Do you need more room bookings, or more people? I might have a couple guys stay with me.


Its the bookings by the room. Having 4 people instead of 2 people in a room still is only one room of revenue in the hotel's eye's. Now me personally, I think at 4 is the max in any room, and that would make it under $50/night for a great place to stay, the best ever at a World's......(Japan is not a world's.....but I wanna go there as well!!!)

tacimala
Jun 24 2009, 03:14 PM
For those that want to be close by to the host hotel and downtown without paying as much, try the name your own price on priceline. Just had some good results with that, PM me if you want info.

tyson99duke
Jun 24 2009, 04:31 PM
I might have chimed in with a Jeff Foxworthy joke or two......I mean, hell, you do live in North Carolina, I thought being a redneck was a prerequisite.

You might NOT be a redneck if...you drive a Volvo. Your not a redneck, they all drive Fords.

wyattcoggin
Jun 24 2009, 11:24 PM
You might NOT be a redneck if...you drive a Volvo. Your not a redneck, they all drive Fords.

Thanks Tyson, but I'm remember a foxworthy joke. I have three Volvo's in the driveway only two of them run.

Joseph
Jul 01 2009, 04:17 PM
Are there rooms still available through hotwire?

GDL
Jul 01 2009, 05:19 PM
Are there rooms still available through hotwire?

yes, but the rate is $99/night now.....for the host hotel, I assume you meant. Follow the hotwire instructions posted, it's still the second one on the list.

I should mention thought that the only difference I see is that it's listed as 4 star whereas when I booked at the lower rate it was listed as 3.5 stars. I'm assuming it's the same place, but perhaps not..... It may be the Hyatt, though, but it's darn close enough to the festivities.

discette
Jul 02 2009, 10:00 AM
Yesterday a friend was able to book the host hotel for only $88.00 a night (including all taxes) by adding it to an Orbitz flight booking.

tacimala
Jul 02 2009, 11:16 AM
3.5 star hotel downtown on priceline for $45 a night for 9 nights...

nez
Jul 02 2009, 08:10 PM
what hotel did it turn out to be?

tacimala
Jul 03 2009, 01:35 AM
Marriott KC Country Club Plaza

chappyfade
Jul 04 2009, 03:21 PM
Marriott KC Country Club Plaza


Interesting, and a great price. It's not downtown, though. It's in Country Club Plaza area, a few miles away from Downtown.

Flash_25296
Jul 05 2009, 03:42 PM
I need to stay solo somewhere friday night and I want to be near Shawnee Mission and Praire Center and I need to know if there are any areas around there that are not recommended due to safety or high crime rates.

Is Lenexa a good area to grab a cheap hotel for one night? Hotwire is showing where the 87th crosses under the HYWY35 and the corridor from 79th down 35 to 97th.


Any help is super appreciated. I just got the week off from work and I am scrabbling to wrap up my plans!

rocguy77
Jul 05 2009, 06:12 PM
I need to stay solo somewhere friday night and I want to be near Shawnee Mission and Praire Center and I need to know if there are any areas around there that are not recommended due to safety or high crime rates.

Is Lenexa a good area to grab a cheap hotel for one night? Hotwire is showing where the 87th crosses under the HYWY35 and the corridor from 79th down 35 to 97th.


Any help is super appreciated. I just got the week off from work and I am scrabbling to wrap up my plans!

those areas are fine.

Paul Taylor
Jul 05 2009, 10:35 PM
Just booked La Quinta near downtown for an average of $53.00 a night. Only about 4 miles form the host hotel. Used the PDGA discount code for the rate.

See you in KC on Sunday

jackinkc
Jul 06 2009, 04:14 PM
Yesterday a friend was able to book the host hotel for only $88.00 a night (including all taxes) by adding it to an Orbitz flight booking.

I had heard that this rate was there as well. So please keep on booking, this property is great, and you will want to be there for sure.

jackinkc
Jul 15 2009, 01:16 PM
Please send me your name if you have not about staying at the hotel on an "internet rate" plan that did not account for you being a disc golfer staying at the hotel. Also please be sure to notify the hotel when you check in that you are there for the worlds. The room rate block for the hotel has expired, so......

Sign up quickly if you are getting here, and I am not sure if there are more rooms available now since our block was completed.

Thanks,

Jack

9524
Jul 19 2009, 11:40 PM
we are coming up to watch. Only will be there Friday night and Sat to see the finals. Any ideas where to stay? Thanks

eupher61
Jul 21 2009, 11:52 PM
If you want to be near Blue Valley (where the finals are, Saturday, but Mens' ams, I think, is there Fri also) look in Independence, MO. There's a Clarioin right near the Truman Sports Complex, also a Drury Inn. There are other places in the same general vicinity, but those are the closest to BV, I think.

Otherwise, there are several hotels in the immediate downtown area, a couple in the Crown Center area just south of the main downtown area, several on or near the Country Club Plaza, lots of places in Johnson County KS along I35 and I435. None of these are far removed from at least one course, but f'rinstance to get to Blue Valley from the 435 and 35 area is going to be a half hour drive. Not bad, actually, but just to give you the most info possible.

Have fun while you're here!!!

steve

petershive
Jul 22 2009, 06:01 PM
I have been at the Mission Value Place for two days. It is very clean and nice, well located (in a residential neighborhood near I-35), and a single kitchenette costs only $169 a WEEK.

exczar
Jul 22 2009, 07:03 PM
Peter,

I and a Am GM are staying there too, starting on Saturday. Any tips before I get there, like, what kitchen stuff I should bring, or towels, etc.?

TexBook
Jul 22 2009, 07:35 PM
Bill,

No utensils are provided. You get 1 roll of TP and a towl. They will sell you only a complete kitchen set for $50, so bring everything you think you'll need. Room includes: 2 burner elec stove (no oven), full sized refrig, microwave, waste cans w/ extra bags, telephone, cable TV w/ all local, 3 ESPN, Disc, Spike, CNN, NG, Ani. Planet, MSNBC, & Fox News, plus others. Fresh towl & sheet exchange is $7/wk. There is a laundry: $1.50 wash, $1.50 dry. Ethernet is $10/wk (its fast); bring a phone jack cord. So bring everything you'll need to cook & clean. Very nice Hi Vee grocery/deli/ bakery/ booz, 1.5mi away.

This is a very nice, quiet, & CLEAN place to stay. See you there!

TexBook

Luke Butch
Jul 25 2009, 01:11 AM
just booked my hotel for worlds, played around on hotwire and got the Westin for sun-sun (7 nights) for $76/night. no offence, but I really hope many people didn't pay the Worlds rate.

so add another room onto your total Jack

whoever posted that info originally, thanks a lot!