zbiberst
Nov 10 2008, 04:05 PM
this may be addressed somewhere, but here are a few questions.

if you are playing 'best shot' and one teammate foot faults, is it that person's warning, or the teams warning? does each player get individual warnings? if its alternate shot, same question. one warning per team?

also, what about practice strokes? if its best shot, and the two minute warning sounds, but one guy takes another practice drive, what is the penalty. if it is best shot do you add add a practice stroke to the teams score, or if its a practice stroke during a hole, would you apply the practice stroke to that teammates score for just that hole (with the option of using the other teammates score)?

also, what if on an alternate shot round, a player misses a putt and proceeds to walk up to it and holes out. would this be a practice stroke, playing someone else's lie, or simply would you assume that a stroke was taken for his teammate, and he was then taking another stroke?

the penalties for the practice stroke and the last option are the same except that they change who is teeing off on the next hole.

cgkdisc
Nov 10 2008, 04:15 PM
I would ask Houck and he rarely posts here any more.

krazyeye
Nov 10 2008, 05:18 PM
In 2007 at World doubles if I remember correctly Houck said something like. You could not call a foot fault on your partner and team mates could not second them. Essentially leaving them to officials.

I do not think he addressed the other items.

bruce_brakel
Nov 10 2008, 06:04 PM
this may be addressed somewhere, but here are a few questions.

(a)if you are playing 'best shot' and one teammate foot faults, is it that person's warning, or the teams warning? does each player get individual warnings? if its alternate shot, same question. one warning per team?

(b)also, what about practice strokes? (c)if its best shot, and the two minute warning sounds, but one guy takes another practice drive, what is the penalty. if it is best shot do you add add a practice stroke to the teams score, or if its a practice stroke during a hole, would you apply the practice stroke to that teammates score for just that hole (with the option of using the other teammates score)?

(d)also, what if on an alternate shot round, a player misses a putt and proceeds to walk up to it and holes out. would this be a practice stroke, playing someone else's lie, or simply would you assume that a stroke was taken for his teammate, and he was then taking another stroke?

the penalties for the practice stroke and the last option are the same except that they change who is teeing off on the next hole.

I run doubles tournaments. I'll tell you how i'd rule.

A doubles team is a two-headed four-legged monster. You penalize the team for rules violations, not the player, because there is no way to penalize the player. So it's more like football than hockey. Unless it is best score. Then you call it like singles and take the best score.

(a) Team gets warned if it is called and seconded.

(b) Penalty stroke. No warning.

(c) First throw is a warning. Any throw after the warning is a stroke.

(d) If it is called before another throw is made, I'd treat an out-of-order throw in alternating shot as a practice throw. Stroke without a warning that does not change your lie. You don't want them to change the order for strategic reasons, and I could dream up a scenario with a real team and a real hole where taking the penalty could be strategic if you also changed the throwing order.

The rules for doubles are not well fleshed out. If you are planning on playing doubles drunk, you should go over all these things in advance! :D