when did registration open for this?

The week in between USDGC and Sneeky Pete. I believe it filled within a couple of days.

nice of them to let people know.

when did registration open for this?



Are Ju Sirius? Must've been quite a birthday celebration Month

full.....wow I didn't even know that they were empty

That is not a nice comment. The flyer was released the same time as last year and it was published on SCDGO.net and our club website which is linked to the tournament info on PDGA.com

with the PDGA message board being down, I am sure a lot of people missed out on hearing about it. Heck, I don't think I heard much about it. First I heard was at SC Championships that it was full.

I was going to try to get back to this one after playing in it two years ago. It was a great time on the temp course. I'm not blaming anyone, I just wish I would have known.

didnt REALize i had to monitor SCDGO.net... guess i ASSumed a thread would be sTarTed like every other year (and every other SC event)

Jonas:

Any word on the course layout? I heard there may be some changes due to a wedding at the park on Saturday. Will all 4 rounds be played at Hampton Park?

Can't wait! Thanks Craig for the heads up!

Steve

It was a personal choice to not create a post on this board for the classic. I feel that this board is a joke and I don't want to use it anymore for official business. At the same time I am compelled to check it everyday. Terrible situation

I apologize to everyone who feels like they did not get a fair crack at registering for the tournament. It is my intention to seperate the Ams and Pros next year and play 2 courses. While this will disappoint some players it will allow for a bigger better event with a more challenging format using Trophy Lakes as the second course.

Wedding was cancelled and we have the only filed permit for the park. This year is all four rounds at Hampton Park.

sorry you feel that way. for some of the content on this board that opinion might have some validity, however this tournament info section on the board is one of the most used & recognized mediums to relay tourney info to disc golfers nation/world wide.

its unfortunate your personal feelings kept some in the dark about this great tournament. maybe next year.

good luck to all competitors on one of my (and im sure a lot of others) favorite courses.

, however this tournament info section on the board is one of the most used & recognized mediums to relay tourney info to disc golfers nation/world wide.

its unfortunate your personal feelings kept some in the dark about this great tournament. maybe next year.
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This is 100% correct. Jonas i have played multiple Charleston classics and traveled over 3 hours to do so. the temp course is one of my favorite courses out there. there was no malice in my post what so ever just disappointment in my lack of preperation. see you next year!

Jonas is not unique in this regard....many TDs do not post on the discussion board, and either the events don't show up at all, or the posts are started by non-TDs (frequently myself).

I'm one of those missing it this year, but no complaints here. I was surprised to find it filled so quickly.

I figured this would lead to it being a crosstown in the future. Which is the right thing to do, of course. But it's a little disappointing, in that Hampton Park is such a special course and you can't play it other than at tournament time, so I'd prefer to get as many rounds there as possible. On the other hand, if it must be done, Trophy Lakes is an excellent 2nd course.

, however this tournament info section on the board is one of the most used & recognized mediums to relay tourney info to disc golfers nation/world wide.

its unfortunate your personal feelings kept some in the dark about this great tournament. maybe next year.
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This is 100% correct. Jonas i have played multiple Charleston classics and traveled over 3 hours to do so. the temp course is one of my favorite courses out there. there was no malice in my post what so ever just disappointment in my lack of preperation. see you next year!



Yep a four hour launch for me and I really love the hampton park course. I look for all tournament info on the PDGA site and only travel to official club sites when prompted for more information, registration, and layouts. Wait list or next year I guess.

Hampton is an amazing slice of property and the course design that Harold started is awesome. We play local monthlies on it 2-3 times a year. The course should be up Thursday afternoon, I hope. Come and play it! Hang with your friends in Charleston. Play it after official rounds are over. Play Trophy Lakes during our official rounds. We have fixed that course up so much over the last year you may not recognize most of it. Come play West Ashley, our newest 18 hole course (Tidal Creek). It is a tight wooded layout that has some choice holes, wildlife and scenery.

I would rather play 4 rounds at Hampton myself, but the calling for this event speaks for itself and we need to let more play it, even if it means only 2 official rounds. The official rounds are the shortest and most frustrating part of it for most of us anyway. Play disc golf!

Jonas is not unique in this regard....many TDs do not post on the discussion board,


David i would have to dissagree with you. i think many TD's post here and promote thier event here. i know we have and the azalea disc golf tournament is a lot like Charleston and earlwood with respect to it filling quickly. i use this board to it's fullest extent to promote my tournament and get information out to the public to keep them informed. I also find it strange the way you guys are refering to the Chalreston classic having to go to a cross town. it has only been 4 rounds at hampton for the last 2 years. My first Charleston event was a cross town using trophey lakes and i thought many before where the same way.

To Jonas and David,

Lets try to drop this thread drift. the thread has been started so wether or not you fill this Message Board is a viable communication medium why not just use it to keep the good people that are fortunate enough to be in this GREAT event informed. I also look forward to getting back there in 2009 have fun everybody.

Dave---

Personally, I use the discussion board to promote my events as much as I can (Stoney Hill Challenge, March Madness, plus occasional non-sanctioned events).

But I'm playing the Upstate Classic in 26 hours, and there's still no thread for it. If the past is any indication, it will be full or close to it.

I post to the discussion board for Earlewood Classic & S.C. Championships, of which I'm a minor part of the club running them, and I don't even play the latter. The TD for these doesn't post on discussion board. At least I can pass along the information I have, which is mostly accurate.

I sometimes start threads for Chapin's Crooked Creek Classic and S.C. Disc Golf Championships. The TD doesn't post for these, either. I can't add much, other than general questions for those who've never played Crooked Creek.

I prefer TDs to post, so general questions can be answered to a wider audience....but Jonas is far from unique in preferring not to.

As for the "crosstown".....Charleston Classic was originally Hampton only---then Hampton/Trophy Lakes for a while---then Hampton only a couple of years---and looks like will be Hampton/Trophy Lakes again. As a "crosstown" it's a great event; as "Hampton only" it's even greater. But if this many people want to play, going back to crosstown makes sense. Though it is a lot of extra work for the locals.

Hampton is an amazing slice of property and the course design that Harold started is awesome. We play local monthlies on it 2-3 times a year. The course should be up Thursday afternoon, I hope. Come and play it! Hang with your friends in Charleston. Play it after official rounds are over. Play Trophy Lakes during our official rounds. We have fixed that course up so much over the last year you may not recognize most of it. Come play West Ashley, our newest 18 hole course (Tidal Creek). It is a tight wooded layout that has some choice holes, wildlife and scenery.

I would rather play 4 rounds at Hampton myself, but the calling for this event speaks for itself and we need to let more play it, even if it means only 2 official rounds. The official rounds are the shortest and most frustrating part of it for most of us anyway. Play disc golf!



Funny, I was discussing this option the other day. Charleston vacation, play Hampton all day Friday, sneak in a round during lunch on Saturday & Sunday.

Monthlies, huh? Extra chances to play Hampton? Might have to follow up on that next year.

David,
aggreed and all the tournies you listed are all S.C events so i guess the previous point you made about TD's not posting should have been edited to read S.C TD's dont usually post here. i personally appreciate everything you do for Disc Golf in your state. Keep posting so us northerners can stay informed. there are a lot of S.C. events i love attending.

Meanwhile, and in the spirit of stopping this thread drift.....

To those 90 who will be playing in Charleston in December, you have our envy.

To those 90 who will be playing in Charleston in December, you have our envy.


agreed :D

i haven't read all the posts but want to chyme in and say that I got an email about the flyer as soon as it went up (because I joined the charleston club out of support earlier this year)... I registered shortly after and posted a thread about it on the charlotte discussion board and was going to create a thread here but I think this was during the time when the board was up/down on and off and I couldn't at the time.

Also by the time I registered it was already getting pretty full and even people on the Charlotte board that saw my posts didnt get in and are on the waiting list. by the time this board was up and running smoothly the event was full so I never bothered to create a thread but have come back time to time to see if anyone else had.

I was hoping by at least getting it on the charlotte board that people might see it there since we saw a lot of extra traffic while the pdga site had issues... especially from the guys that are saying they missed out. Sucks that a lot of the people that missed out are guys I would love to play a round with too.

Order of events...
-Tradd made the flyer @ 4p on 10/10
-Jonas sent email to Charleston club ~5:30p on 10/10 and I posted on Charlotte board soon after
-over 1/3rd full by 10/13
-filled by 10/15

again... i haven't read further than the first couple posts so maybe some of this was said already. If i repeated anything sorry.

and if you havent done so yet... get on the wait list... i think its a long list but you never know... lots of sally's might pull out if the weather is less than perfect that weekend. (i actually might have to pull out because of work :( so there's 1 spot ;)

also... plan on playing the next weekend instead now and patron a great event (that i've still never had a chance to attend) @ TUPELO!!!

and obviously just as an FYI... here's the info from the flyer...

CHARLESTON CLASSIC
DECEMBER 6-7, 2008
Sponsored By:
Charleston Disc Golf Club
LionHeart Auto & Truck Repair
City of Charleston Parks & Recreation

Saturday, Dec. 6th
9:30AM Players Meeting
1st Round Following Players Meeting
2nd Round Tee after Lunch
Sunday, Dec. 7th
3rd Round Tee 9:00AM
4th Round Tee after Lunch
Awards Ceremony after 4th Round

PRO $50
ADVANCED $40
INTERMEDIATE $30
PLAYER PACKAGES FOR ALL AMS
**NOT A PDGA MEMBER? ADD $10**

For More Information Call Tournament Director, Jonas Card, at 843-819-6126 OR
Visit the CDGC website: http://home.bellsouth.net/personalpages/PWP-CDGC/
Pre-Registration Form
Online payment via PAYPAL is available through the CDGC website, OR
SEND CHECKS PAYABLE TO:
JONAS CARD 1128 SHOREHAM RD CHARLESTON, SC 29412

Jeff I got your back here. Jonas, that was a sorry [censored] comment. What better place than the MESSAGE BOARD for the PDGA to let people know of a tournament than itself? Us who don't play many tournaments and spend all of our time at the ULTRA NICE (haha) SCDGO site wouldn't have known!

Dave---

But I'm playing the Upstate Classic in 26 hours, and there's still no thread for it. If the past is any indication, it will be full or close to it.




Sorry for the drift, but anybody know Open scores for the Upstate? Gracias.

Unofficially.....
Mel Shuman shot 40-40-41-46 to win.
Mike Jo shot a 37 (!) in the final round to pull within 1.
I think Matt Dollar and Brad Hammock finished 3rd & 4th, or 4th & 5th; can't remember who the 5th person in the top 5 was.

To drift back a little, Upstate filled with no Discussion Board notices at all. Charleston, too. Apparently a lot of disc golfers did get the message. I suspect that most disc golfers, at least in South Carolina, rarely if ever visit this board.

To drift back a little, Upstate filled with no Discussion Board notices at all. Charleston, too. Apparently a lot of disc golfers did get the message.


David,
good for you guys. my tournament will fill a month before the tournament if not sooner. but what i will still do is put up a thread so if anyone out side of your little area would like to attend they will know about it. i give players form all over the region oppertunity by letting them know, not just locally. by the way at my tournament it is impossible to shoot anyhting in the 40's and only one person (brian schwebberger) has shot 4 rounds in the 50's (upper 50's) in the 8 years it has been held.

Unofficially.....
Mel Shuman shot 40-40-41-46 to win.
Mike Jo shot a 37 (!) in the final round to pull within 1.
I think Matt Dollar and Brad Hammock finished 3rd & 4th, or 4th & 5th; can't remember who the 5th person in the top 5 was.




From Peckham on the Charlotte discussion board..

Mel Shuman wins -48
Johansen shoots -17 last round to lose by one stroke (closed the gap by 11 strokes last round) -47
Orrick -44
Dollar
Hammock

I got last cash at -30

Sarah Stanhope wins Open Women (dominating... ok, she was the only one)

Jay Phillips wins advanced -29

Thanks

To drift back a little, Upstate filled with no Discussion Board notices at all. Charleston, too. Apparently a lot of disc golfers did get the message.


David,
good for you guys. my tournament will fill with no south carolina players in it what so ever and we will be full a month before the tournament. but what i will do is put up a thread so if anyone out side of your little area would like to attend they will know about it. i give players form all over the region oppertunity by letting them know. by the way at my tournament it is impossible to shoot anyhting in the 40's and only one person (brian schwebberger) has shot 4 rounds in the 50's (upper 50's) in the 8 years it has been held.



Hey, I'm with you. For my own tournaments, I use the discussion board....and e-mail clubs and anyone else I can find within 100 miles or so....to get the word out.

But I'm reluctant to criticize TDs who are doing the heavy lifting so I can play. Especially the one who's setting up a temporary course---a big undertaking---and offering to run a tournament on 2 courses, 1 of which will have to be set up and taken down, next year.

Also, I'm just pointing out that the assertion that almost all TDs post to the discussion board is not supported by the facts. I'd prefer that they do, but they don't. In addition to those I cited before, Augusta holds many events with nary a mention on the discussion board.

Nor is the assertion that this should be a pimary means of communication sustainable. It seems most disc golfers, at least around here, rarely if ever visit this board.

And one or two posts on this thread rather prove Jonas's point. No wonder he's not a fan.

As for Upstate, Timmons Park is what it is---a very short, but fun, course. At my Stoney Hill Challenge, no one will shoot in the 40s, either. Nor at March Madness, I guess, since it's match play.

First of all David i don't fill that my 7 word post was much of a criticisim and i made that very clear in the post following Jonas comment about said post. secondly i made no assertion that almost all TD's use this forum. i said it was my belief that many do. lookin at the number of threads in here i will stand by that opinion.
wether jonas is a fan or not he has his right to his opinion. but if you take the opinions here at face value some stand up people (i am not including myself in this list) have voiced there sorrow of not knowing about this great event extremely professionally. this is getting a little silly!

Apologies to Dave, and everyone else.

no appologies needed.

I got last cash at -30



1st cash Stack? Good going!

no, _I_ got last cash. he was quoting my post on the CDGC MBoard.

yeah what he said :)

c'mon now Tyson... surely I wouldn't done better than that! You were there for my only 'pro' appearance @ Reidsville ice bowl ;)

waitlist should be BUMPed up by a couple... heard of a local from chucktown that will have to drop and I have to drop as well (work :( )

will be sad to miss this one... have fun fellas!!!

I am waiting for confirmation from 4 players on the wait list now. I will post the updated list tonight.

For those who are in the event:
Sat (11/22/08) morning will be the last day to withdraw and receive a full refund of your entry fee.

Friday, Dec 5
High: 61 �F RealFeel�: 62 �F
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Friday Night, Dec 5
Low: 40 �F RealFeel�: 40 �F
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Saturday, Dec 6
High: 66 �F RealFeel�: 58 �F
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Saturday Night, Dec 6
Low: 44 �F RealFeel�: 35 �F
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Sunday, Dec 7
High: 73 �F RealFeel�: 67 �F
Partly sunny and warmer http://vortex.accuweather.com/adc2004/common/images/wxicons/blue_frcst_bg/03.gif

Sunday Night, Dec 7
Low: 46 �F RealFeel�: 42 �F
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NICE!!!!

How deep is the waitlist Jonas?

bump bump bump iTT up........ Jonas you have an IM

Here is the current wait list, and this may change today. I let 2 guys in and have not got confirmation yet. I'll give them until the end of today to decide then we bump again

WL Mel Shuman
WL Mike Newman
WL Robert McCalpine
WL Steve Boucher
WL Howard McIntyre
WL Stuart Krall
WL Kenny Peace
WL Jeff Maimone
WL Chris Kilgus
WL Skipper Craddock
WL Nancy Norton
WL Jeff Yahn

Jonas:

Course layout the same as last year? Are we playing the gazebo hole? When do you expect to have the course up?

Thanks for your hard work!

Steve

Same course, no gazebo, Thursday by dark. No hard work at all. Everyone in Charleston is giddy with anticipation of Hampton Park.

Yeah, Yeahee!

Mel Shuman is in off the wait list Pro Masters!

I'm glad Mel is the one who got my spot!

We're glad Mel got your spot too Robert! ;)

Ha, funny.

My grandfather passed yesterday so I have to be in Florida for the funeral. Not exactly what I want to be doing during the Charleston tournament, but obviously, not missing the funeral.

Good luck everyone!

condolences from myself and Joy, Robert..... be safe.

Robert,
Thanks for your kind words. Sorry for your loss. We'll keep your family in our prayers.
Mel & Anita Shuman

Hampton Map (http://bellsouthpwp.net/c/h/charlestondiscgolf/Hamptonmap.GIF)

one more can be taken off the wait list... Robert McAlpine said he won't be able to make it

Unfortunately, I am out as well :(

Any Idea where we can find the 1st 2 rounds scores? ;)

Congrats on the repeat win MJ!!!

Just wanted to say thank you to Innova, Jonas and his crew for their fine job and hard work this past weekend. This event ran very smoothly!! I had a great time, and I can't wait for next year. Congrats to MJ!

JJ

Jonas and the CDGC:

Many thanks for another great Charleston Classic! Hampton Park is such a great course. Thanks to the gang at Innova for coming south and setting it up. Thanks to Discraft for the Saturday group CTP's.

Lionheart, Sweet Olive, and a couple other sponsors I am sure I have forgotten. Thanks for making a weekend of disc golf in one of the most beautiful parks in the SE a reality.

Bring back the gazebo hole!!!!!!!!!

Steve

We probably will bring it back next year. We will also be using Trophy Lakes next year to let everyone in the event. Go ahead and let your opinions be heard on Trophy Lakes for next year.

Thank you for the complements players! See you next time

gazebo hole... sweet
trophy lakes next year... sweeter

thanks Jonas!

and anyone can answer but I forgot how it works... when the gazebo hole is added did we lose a hole somewhere else or did another one get added and we played 20 holes (can't remember)

Regarding the Gazebo, there are a number of ghosts of former holes at Hampton Park, as the layout gets tweaked a little every year. There has been the straight-on shot with O.B. all around and, usually, wind.....and a big anhyzer shot (RHBH) out of the gazebo.

Regarding Trophy Lakes in December, promises to be a little cooler than the June tournament, with less chance of Armageddon-class thunderstorms. Also, going crosstown next year should mean no more fivesomes, always a benefit.

Interesting to see that after all the turmoil, everyone who wanted to get it in and showed up, did, and apparently there was room for a few more of us.

We had 2 extra spots that we couldn't fill because it was just too late for the wait list peeps to make/change their plans. No wait list next year is a good thing.

The gazebo hole is pretty sweet. We will probably have a couple tweaks next year also, hopefully they will go over well. We will test them out at our January monthly at Hampton Park (date TBD)
We have had 19 holes (last year), I am not sure about 20. My first classic was in 2004 and this was played on 2 courses with only 18 holes each. 2005 was 2 courses also. I think 06 was 2 courses and the last 2 years have been Hampton only. So we'll see how it goes.

Jonas:

I noticed a few small cahnges this year. Tee on #10 moved up. Liked it...brought OB in play for the big arm. Seems the tee on #6 was moved up and to the right. I think. Liked this also... created a sweet little tunnel shot.

For what it is worth, I love TL, and if the CDGC and Trevor continue to make more improvements, we are all in for a treat.
What are the changes being considered?

Hope to see the whole gang from Charelston in Savannah. Also we would like to see the entire Sauls clan as well! Flyer posted at savannahdiscgolf.com, and on line reg should be up at ZoneDriven soon!

Steve

Tournament Director Jonas Card wrote a nice article about the 2008 Charleton Classic that can be viewed at:

http://www.1000rated.com/2008/12/johansen-wins-charleston-classic/

Thanks Jonas!