Anybody here play on PokerStars? I usually just play the .01/.02 tables. Username is PDGA 27965

Yes, its the best out of all of em. Much easier to use and navigate, although they should probably rename the site JokerStars or DonkeyStars cuz I've seen some of the worst hold em players ever on there.

Just took top 10 in a NL tourney, 4.40 entry just won 12 bucks but still nice. First time trying a real money tourney online.

Yes, its the best out of all of em. Much easier to use and navigate, although they should probably rename the site JokerStars or DonkeyStars cuz I've seen some of the worst hold em players ever on there.



trust me there are terrible players @ every limit of poker, up through high stakes.


PS- stars is rigged, everyone knows that!

What's your favorite site Luke?

Rigged? How so?

Pokerstars throws out impossible hands a little too much, I've seen one in a million hands nearly every week. Granted they deal millions of hand quite frequently,

Some quick examples off the top of my head...
Having JJ close to the cashline in a 1000ish player tourney, flop is Js, Ts, Th, Someone pushes before me and another push, I wasn't at risk from either so I call. The other 2 hands were Tc,Td, and AsKs, their way of narrowing the field a little quicker.
The worst I've ever seen was a 3 handed flop into a limp pot, 6d,7d,8d.
3 instashoves with one person having 4d,5d, the other having Ad, Kd, and the last with 9d,Td.
That's 9 of 13 diamonds, the bottom and the top straight flushes, and a hand that is easly interpreted as the nuts. Pretty lame if you ask me.
I've also benifited from some of these less than typical hands... I once went all in with AQoff, only to get 2 callers, one with AA the other with QQ , i got a K on the flop, and then got runner runner J, T, to get my straight and triple up

I liked Fulltilt the most until my account got shut down after I was accused of cheating, no explaination, no rebuttal.
Now I am reduced to playing on Pokerstars, but there still are some good tournaments. I especially like the double ups and the $11 rebuy with 30k guarenteed .
I usually play 1/2 PL Omaha 8 though
SN PieChucker

Rigged? How so?



ok its not really, but its kinda a ongoing joke in the online poker community.

not sure if any of you guys heard, but there were actual cheaters/rigged games at UltimateBet in the past few years. While supposedly its fixed now, that is one site I would avoid. IMO its better to stick with either full tilt or Pokerstars, your money is very safe with both.

I would definitely avoid any small sites, even if they offer great bonuses- I lost a significant amount a couple years ago when one of them basically shut down and didn't payout their players. Many of them are quite shady, and a lot have issues with payouts.

I liked Fulltilt the most until my account got shut down after I was accused of cheating, no explaination, no rebuttal.




how long ago was this? did they confiscate your money, or just shut down your account? I'd constantly send them emails asking for explanations if I was you- dont stop just because they didnt reply to one of them. what most likely happened is 2 other people at your table were colluding, and because of some hands you played vs them it looked like you were as well.

The worst I've ever seen was a 3 handed flop into a limp pot, 6d,7d,8d.
3 instashoves with one person having 4d,5d, the other having Ad, Kd, and the last with 9d,Td.
That's 9 of 13 diamonds, the bottom and the top straight flushes, and a hand that is easly interpreted as the nuts.



That is easily one of the worst I've ever heard of too.

Another thing to consider is that from a programming standpoint, there is no such thing as random number generation. You can write code to attept to randomly pick numbers (or cards) but it is always going to be based on a formula. So online poker may not be 'rigged' per say, but the hands are not going to be as random as shuffling a deck and dealing cards. This may attribute to the 1 in a million hands that one of the previous posters regualrly sees.

We covered this topic in a programming class I took. To generate a random number we would look at the time at a given moment, and multiply the seconds by the minutes then add the hours and a couple other minipulations. In the end it effectively genereated what seemed like a random number, but it would be tough for me to gamble on...

So, although it isn't actually random, it is effectively random unless one knows the formula?

I guess my point is that it follows a pattern. You can't necessarially predict it from the outside looking in but I am skeptical that the computerized process succesfully mirros the manual shuffling process all that well. I guess alot of the basic strategy holds up once cards are delt and you are trying to figure out what cards your opponents have. The hard part for me would be trusting the probability of the cards I need coming. It would bee an interesting study to do some comparisons of computer delt hands in relation to manually shuffled decks and how accuratelly each corresponds to the mathematically predicted probabilities of a given card coming. I have heard of studies where these probabilities were found to hold up against hand shuffled decks, but never for computers...