Hey,Chuck if I take cash at a tournoment.Would that come in to play for college scholarships.

pm Dave Wiggins... i believe he's been looking into that for Jr.

Hey,Chuck if I take cash at a tournoment.Would that come in to play for college scholarships.


If you're not cashing in the sport or one that's very similar, then your college eligibility should be fine. However, I know some people haven't wanted to test that theory and have not accepted cash. Best to actually contact the NCAA and determine what the rules would be for the sport you want to play.

Thanks Chuck. :D

I have heard of quite a few guys get drafted in baseball out of high school, play minor league ball for a few years (for money), then come back and play college football. Can't think of a specific player but I have heard of it happening for sure.

Let us know what the NCAA says if you contact them.

John Elway did for one, playing 2 seasons minor league ball for the Yankees

so did weinke.

Who was the skier that had issues with the NCAA? Bloom? Didn't he have issues for taking $$$ for skiing? Or was it endorsement money?

There was a punt returner a few years ago that was also an Olympic moguls skier. By competing in the Olympics, he became a professional athlete and that voided his eligibility to play football.

The rules are complicated. You should check with the athletic department where you might want to go to school. I've looked into it twice but the rules change every year and there are exceptions for some sports.

He is planning on coming to my tournament and cashing..... and he probably will.

I was assuming you were talking about athletic scholarships. Academic scholarships won't matter.

dalton, as long as you arent going to college for disc golf i think you should be good! hopefully that will be a possibility by the time you get there! dont count on it but it would be nice to get a scholarship just for playing some d.g.

The rules are complicated. You should check with the athletic department where you might want to go to school. I've looked into it twice but the rules change every year and there are exceptions for some sports.



Just tell the AD that disc golf isn't a sport. ;) :o

The process now seems to be that they don't tell you the rules for amateur eligibility. You have to fill out a very long form. Then they tell you if you are eligible.

The rules for amateurism and eligibility are in NCAA By Law 12. Good luck finding the NCAA By Laws on any of the NCAA websites. I could not. Some colleges have a summary of the by law 12 on their website. Here's UWP's summary:


A student-athlete who loses his or her amateur status shall not be eligible for intercollegiate competition in a particular sport if:

� The student-athlete or family member negotiate, sign or enters into any written or oral agreement with an agent.

� The student-athlete or family member accepts or receives any extra benefits from an agent or anyone who wishes to represent the student-athlete.

� The student-athlete competes with a professional sports team or competes as a professional in an individual sport and receives any compensation for participation.

� The student-athlete uses his or her skills for pay or promise of pay.



I would advise not accepting cash or prizes at sanctioned tournaments if you want to be safe. Also, contact the athletic department of the school or school that wants to give you an athletic scholarship for further information.

Skier was Jeremy Bloom. The Olympics weren't the problem, all his endorsement $$ was.

Luckily Dg is probably the sport I would be best in so there wasn't a problem and I am still getting Academic scholarships.

Then again they don't really know I play DG.

You're from Texas anyway. You could go to A&M for free now anyway if your family makes less than 60k (adj. gross). :P

You're from Texas anyway. You could go to A&M for free now anyway if your family makes less than 60k (adj. gross). :P



If that's true, I'd go for it, as A&M is one of the better schools anywhere.

Chap
Texas A&M Class of '90

Just began this year, according to the article I read. Anyone with sufficient grades/scores who comes from a family with an adjusted gross income below $60,000 gets full tuition paid for, must maintain a GPA above 2.5 (which is so easy)... not bad. Makes me wish I was from Texas and about five years younger. Hell of a lot easier than an athletic scholarship for kids from impoverished families.

Thanks for the excellent info. What a mess this eligibility issue is.

Dave

Thanks for the excellent info. What a mess this eligibility issue is.

Dave



I'd make sure to check with NCAA ... remember that skier from CO that wasn't allowed to play football because he took cash as a pro skier.

Thanks for the excellent info. What a mess this eligibility issue is.

Dave



I'd make sure to check with NCAA ... remember that skier from CO that wasn't allowed to play football because he took cash as a pro skier.


see: earlier in the thread. repeatedly. :P

Take as much in prizes as you like. There will be an issue if you are sponsored and your sponsor put your name and/or image on there products and advertisements. Note, I think there is also a limit of $50 in prizes, but I might be off on the amount. So, if you have already had funny money cashed for over $50 then you are in the same spot as taking any amount of real money.

Off subject, but do you think sponsored players should be allowed to play am divisions? In other sports I think sponsorship makes you a professional.

I don't see how being sponsored makes you qualified to play in the Open Division.

In the few sports that care about pro-am distinctions, accepting sponsorship causes you to lose your amateur status. It does not make you a professional.

I don't see how being sponsored makes you qualified to play in the Open Division.



Do you have to bee qualified to play in the open division? I thought it was open to anyone who had the ca$h? Is that not correct?

Oh true Mr. Antilla...

Technically, it is "Open" to anyone with the money.

I however like to think that the division that is supposed to represent the highest level of play in this sport. I myself would not feel qualified to play in it nor would I want people to think that my sub-900 rating is what the Open Division is about.

So, by making the blanket statement that sponsored players should be playing in the Open Division without taking into account their level of play is a bad thing IMHO.

what is an imho?

In
My
Honest
Opinion

my dad Sponsored me at a tourney a month ago, does that make me a pro

: ) :

In
My
Honest
Opinion



thanks! i am barley able to even use the interweb, let alone understand its special language!

H is traditionally Humble vs Honest but either way is accepted.

H is traditionally Humble vs Honest but either way is accepted.



correct... hence people using imnsho to be silly and say 'in my not so humble opinion'

roflmao ;)

my dad Sponsored me at a tourney a month ago, does that make me a pro

: ) :

In the few sports that care about pro-am distinctions, accepting sponsorship causes you to lose your amateur status. It does not make you a professional.

Hey,Chuck if I take cash at a tournoment.Would that come in to play for college scholarships.



Hope this is not off subject too much. my opinion only. If you are talking about an existing college sport the NCAA rules are tuff on taking money or reward of any type. If you are talking about Disc Golf which I hope Colleges will be having teams by the time Andrew and David Wiggins Jr are College age. It would be a huge mistake to turn Disc Golf over to the NCAA.

Colleges can have all of the teams that it wants but, once they start handing out scholarships they have to abide by NCAA rules...

In
My
Honest
Opinion



thanks! i am barley able to even use the interweb, let alone understand its special language!



check out http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Internet_slang

H is traditionally Humble vs Honest but either way is accepted.

In a decade-plus online, I'd never heard it as humble. Generally it comes across as the more condescending "honest"

In a decade-plus online, I'd never heard it as humble. Generally it comes across as the more condescending "honest"



In my decade plus online, I have never heard it as honest.

IMHO

Edit: I just did a search for "IMHO" and got slammed with results that said "In my humble opinion" or stated both, but honest was after humble.

IMHO you guys got off track

According to GoogleFight's HO it's close enough that we're both right. :P

Has any of this information changed in the two years since it's been discussed?

The reason I ask is that we give the winners of our tournaments a free entry into the next years event on the condition that they move up. This year, a 16 year old won Advanced and his parents are concerned that playing Open may affect his eligibility.

if he plays open and makes payout, he should be able to accept "merchandise payout" instead of cash. most td's that i know of allow that. i've never known one who didn't allow it. that way, he plays for free, and keeps his am status.

Ams can enter pro divisions and win merch instead of cash to retain their am eligibility. Or, the TD can offer the Trophy Only option with a reduced entry fee for those not wishing to pay as much and not play for cash prizes.

Has any of this information changed in the two years since it's been discussed?

The reason I ask is that we give the winners of our tournaments a free entry into the next years event on the condition that they move up. This year, a 16 year old won Advanced and his parents are concerned that playing Open may affect his eligibility.

From an NCAA website:

Awards Prior to Enrollment:
If a student-athlete has never enrolled full-time in any college, he/she may receive awards for athletics participation. The award(s) needs to conform to the rules of the amateur sports organization that governs the competition and cannot include cash. The awards presented to the student-athlete may include gift certificates and items that are not personalized, provided the awards are permitted by the rules of the amateur sports organization.
You may wish to consult with your high-school athletics director to determine exactly what type of award(s) you may receive. Please contact the NCAA membership services staff at 317/917-6222 should you have further questions.

Thanks for the replies everyone. I'll pass this info along.

I haven't had any problem.........although I am only receiving academic scholarships.

Good thing too since I would have burnt out playing AM for so long...........heck I am already wanting to take a few years off to just focus on school 110%