� a note for TDSA members and players who visit this message-board :
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� there have been some recent renewals and new-memberships through TDSA � the tulsadiscsports.org website will show all these updates the week after the Picnic (Nov.2) �
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� the club�s Board-of-Administrators will grow further as well to anticipate some of the predicted growth and improvements throughout the area � some aggressive and great Events are being planned �
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� 2 of the current Administrators have �retired with honors� � moving and job-issues will see Jose Mendoza -and- James Diel stepping aside from the Board � remember to thank both of these gentlemen for their volunteer-efforts and donated-time �
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� unless there were any late-additions (before tomorrow-night , Oct.16) to the printed-ballot ; the 2008 Fall Ballot will look like this:

Joyle Deering
Scott Schumacher (Furdog)
Bryan Hinds
Jake Regier
Josh Crowl
Doug Duff
Paul Dorries

� from those choices (or write-ins) ; there must be voted FOUR (4) names to serve as Club-Administrators � good choices , , , good people , , , all offering to serve and be active on your behalf � stepping up to make a difference �
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� ATTEND your local Club Picnic � play cheap � eat free � VOTE � above all , Enjoy �

I'd love to help represent the TDSA in this capacity. Thanks for the Nomination.

That�s right little bucko�s�.

Vote for ME!!!! :cool:

As your Admin I promise that I will fight for the �short arms� and bring a DG voice back to the little people and I will tax the money grabbing Pro�s like Coda and stop the greedy pro lobbyist like Wise who�s only interest is to stuff their divisions with your hard earned TDSA money and donations. :(

Face it. You newbie�s and Am�s are the middle class and backbone of this sport and it's about time for you all to get a �bailout� too. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

And that�s where I come in my friends. As a current TDSA tournament director and lifetime member I have been to some of these meetings and I have seen some of the �pork barrel� resolutions passed. Most are legit but some stink of the classic good�ol boy politics that has run our economy into the ground!!!! :mad:

For example�..

$100 for a padded heated toilet seat for Dave Wise because he complained that he couldn�t perform his �Treasurer� duties prior to the Am Worlds because Mitchell was kicking his butt at all the local minis back in the day. Now for the most part, everybody in his division is kicking his butt. :o

$5000 for a hot tub for Dave Wise because he complained that his back hurt and he couldn�t promote the TDSA at a media event if he was slouching all the time. :p

$2000 down the drain to E-Harmony for Andrew because he said his Admin abilities were not up to par because he couldn�t find anyone willing to mate with him.
(On a side note to that: $1000 of that $2000 was donated by Michael Treat in an effort to help get Andrew off the couch and out of the house.)

My friends, is this what you want from your DG club? Always rewarding Pro-street while Am-street has to sell plastic so it can scrape up $5 for a weeknight mini? :mad:

VOTE FOR ME!!!!.....A true Legend and the only true Maverick in this campaign!!!! :cool:

I have met with DG leaders in Arkansas and Oklahoma City therefore I have true foreign policy experience. On clear days,.....I can see Sapulpa from my mountain.

I have proven my leadership by running the evil Twoputt from this board and I will end the discussion wars within my first year in office. :)

And I will not be alone because I have chosen Lil�Moose to be my vice-advisor. Together we will get �Mavericky� with the TDSA and reach across the aisle and work for true policy change.

The purpose of a true grass roots organization is not to dump the roots on the Ams while the Pro�s smoke the grass.

The true purpose is to roll it all in one big stogie and pass it around so we all may partake!!!! :cool:

That is why I say vote for me. A great American Dog!!!! :)

My name is Furdog and I approve this message!!!!! :cool:

Paid for by the "Furry-Moose in 08" campaign committee

I have proven my leadership by running the evil Twoputt from this board and I will end the discussion wars within my first year in office. :)





Great, another american hero

http://seoblackhat.com/images/mission-accomplished.jpg

u aren't the only Maverick here. Hell that word pretty much defines what i'm all about. Plus i think I got 20 yrs more youth left in this mind than that of the VodkaDog.

I love what you do for the mountain but that is the only place i ever see you put effort into. All of our courses need love.

awesome, we need a video taped debate on youtube :cool:

So???.....What kind of �Maverick� are you Blindsight? Are you the Mel Gibson �Maverick� like me or are you as I suspect, more like the �Maverick� that crashed his plane and killed Goose in the movie?

I�ve put some effort into most all of Tulsa�s courses except for maybe Hunter & Sand Springs.

And before you go running negative ads on me let me ask you one thing. Do you have a �Golden Shovel� like I do????? :o

If so, I challenge you to battle!!!! :D

dang smear campaigns :p

I own this guy!!!! :D

Hey i know where i can get a freakin' Golden Shovel, that's not an issue. BTW I'm just pokin the dog with a stick to make sure its still alive. Not trying to start a smear campaign, I love all of the nominees. dont get all hissy with me. Ju :Dst make sure if your running you plan on being at all of the meetings. And you will never OWN me. how many strokes you need at Chan Chan.

when you sight surfers read past the comments of these two wind bags "which are both excellent nominees", I'm on the ballot with the Boone Pickens like campaign...vote for me because you know it's the right thing to do.

Hey Furdog, I sure missed you and that Golden Shovel at the tree planting and work that went on Saturday out at The Hawks. If you showed up later and I missed you I apologize but i just wanted to see your shovel skills on display. Last I saw It was just Wise penny C-Dub Geiger Bhoi, Forest, Zooc and Myself. Hope we got some late bloomers.

Duff you deserve a spot on the board theres no question about that.

Hey Furdog, I sure missed you and that Golden Shovel at the tree planting and work that went on Saturday out at The Hawks. If you showed up later and I missed you I apologize but i just wanted to see your shovel skills on display. Last I saw It was just Wise penny C-Dub Geiger Bhoi, Forest, Zooc and Myself. Hope we got some late bloomers.



So what are you trying to say Blindsight? I don�t show up for a work day and now I�m not worthy of an admin position? :(

Based on your big boast of 20 years of youth I figured you could have done the work of 20 of me. :confused:

You sound like a dis-gruntled Joe the Plumber.

Did you not see the illegals I hired to help you? :(

Well I�m sure this is not the first time someone has told you this but you know what you can do with that comment don�t you. :p

Hey you brought up the Golden Shovel, not I. And i probably did the work of 20 Furdogs. Of course i couldn't have done it without the help of Mr. Forest. No illegals spotted, maybee thay had the wrong course.

� NOVEMBER is upon us �
� lotsa c-o-o-l disc-golf-activities on a w-i-d-e v-a-r-i-e-t-y of Courses �
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� the TDSA mini-schedule is now available for November � all the latest -and- greatest -and- most-up-to-datest � � Singles � Doubles � QUADRUPLES (Team Golf) � Skins � including Chandler , Hunter , Dovillio , McClure , The Lodge , Mohawk , Westside YMCA � AND � MACK TAYLOR ! �
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� your tdsa website should have it now � or � you can get hooked-up at the DOUBLE-O � your TD-staff of Rotan, Watson, and Treat (triplets) have some now and we will carry them even more copies for their weekend �

... one of our esteemed Club Members (from the LoneStarState) was wondering :
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" didn't realize just how long it has been since I made a trip to Tulsa until I received my ballot for the 2008 elections. I read the list of names and could not put faces to most of them.

I figured that I'd have to jump on here and see what the election thread had going only to see that there was no election thread. Well, I think it is time to start one. Who wants to be elected, and why should I cast my vote for them? "
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... some of you candidates need to convince him ... what-do-you-stand-for ? ... what-do-you-stand-against ? ... what will you bring forth to benefit your local Club ? ...

bump!!!!


That�s right little bucko�s�.

Vote for ME!!!! :cool:

As your Admin I promise that I will fight for the �short arms� and bring a DG voice back to the little people and I will tax the money grabbing Pro�s like Coda and stop the greedy pro lobbyist like Wise who�s only interest is to stuff their divisions with your hard earned TDSA money and donations. :(

Face it. You newbie�s and Am�s are the middle class and backbone of this sport and it's about time for you all to get a �bailout� too. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

And that�s where I come in my friends. As a current TDSA tournament director and lifetime member I have been to some of these meetings and I have seen some of the �pork barrel� resolutions passed. Most are legit but some stink of the classic good�ol boy politics that has run our economy into the ground!!!! :mad:

For example�..

$100 for a padded heated toilet seat for Dave Wise because he complained that he couldn�t perform his �Treasurer� duties prior to the Am Worlds because Mitchell was kicking his butt at all the local minis back in the day. Now for the most part, everybody in his division is kicking his butt. :o

$5000 for a hot tub for Dave Wise because he complained that his back hurt and he couldn�t promote the TDSA at a media event if he was slouching all the time. :p

$2000 down the drain to E-Harmony for Andrew because he said his Admin abilities were not up to par because he couldn�t find anyone willing to mate with him.
(On a side note to that: $1000 of that $2000 was donated by Michael Treat in an effort to help get Andrew off the couch and out of the house.)

My friends, is this what you want from your DG club? Always rewarding Pro-street while Am-street has to sell plastic so it can scrape up $5 for a weeknight mini? :mad:

VOTE FOR ME!!!!.....A true Legend and the only true Maverick in this campaign!!!! :cool:

I have met with DG leaders in Arkansas and Oklahoma City therefore I have true foreign policy experience. On clear days,.....I can see Sapulpa from my mountain.

I have proven my leadership by running the evil Twoputt from this board and I will end the discussion wars within my first year in office. :)

And I will not be alone because I have chosen Lil�Moose to be my vice-advisor. Together we will get �Mavericky� with the TDSA and reach across the aisle and work for true policy change.

The purpose of a true grass roots organization is not to dump the roots on the Ams while the Pro�s smoke the grass.

The true purpose is to roll it all in one big stogie and pass it around so we all may partake!!!! :cool:

That is why I say vote for me. A great American Dog!!!! :)

My name is Furdog and I approve this message!!!!! :cool:

Paid for by the "Furry-Moose in 08" campaign committee

good stuff

i will vote
none of the above!

And the canidates are:

Joyle Deering (In Headlights)
Scott Schumacher (Great American Dog)
Bryan Hinds (Wears His Sunglasses at Night)
Jake Regier (The Cable Guy)
Josh Crowl (Always on the Prowl)
Doug Duff (Lives in the Land of Muff)
Paul Dorries (Under Rated According to Wise)

Seven men enter. Four men leave.

Don't forget possible "write in's".

Dave Wise (The SheepHerder)
Jay Slack (Taco's R Us)
Bud Johnson (Beer's on Me)
Steve Naegele (Walking Sharpie Canvas)
Doc Morton (The Real World Champion)

my ballot has been casted

Dave Wise (The SheepHerder)
Jay Slack (Taco's R Us)
Bud Johnson (Beer's on Me)
Steve Naegele (Walking Sharpie Canvas)

do we get to do early voting

Cool.....

I really think we should bring Twoputt back. :)

I know he wants back in but he doesn't want to admit it to anyone. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

What can I do for the TDSA..........

Since I have joined the tdsa in November of 06 I have seen and learned about how this club operates.

I have an associates degree in marketing, I have used that in several differnt ways already to market the TDSA. Some examples are Riverside Glide 07, got some disc donations from Tom's for prize payouts. August 06,07, and 08 I have gotten donations from Tom's and Sunbelt Sports to donate for the annual CDB tournament for the prevention of Brain cancer. I have volunteered in events such as Am-Worlds 06 here in tulsa.

Recently I have hit the streets to try to get some assistance for any card carrying TDSA member. While it may not seem like alot, I think I have worked out a deal where if I were to get elected I now have the power to get 1 dollar off at Hobbytown on any disc purchase. I am currently trying to get the same type of deal at Academy and Tom's.

Just wanted some of our voters to realize how much I love this game and how much effort I have and will put forward to see this sport flourish. Occasionally I will even bring it up on Sports talk radio around our community. All of our canidates are good for the sport, but not all have the time it takes to promote disc golf that I do.

In closing, I would love to represent the TDSA and would consider it an honor.

Bryan D. Hinds

as far as wearing sunglasses at Night? Don't think I have ever done that furdog. Maybee through a pair on top of the hat as it got darker but no sunglasses at night for me. Sorry if your misinformed.

That was a very good campaign speech Bryan.

I will vote for you buddy!!!! :cool:

ahh shucks...... stop it furdog your making me misty.

(you have PM)

Okay here is my two cents worth for the upcoming election. First off, good luck to everybody that is running. From my chair, here is what I am looking for in a representative. Someone who may have actually had some private industry experience would be wonderful for me. I got involved with this sport to help promote it. I see lots of potential to really grow this sport and some opportunities to really bring it to the mainstream public. This is not cheap. Although probably 99 percent of all discgolfers do not see it as a business opportunity, I do. I would like to see pro purses elevated to the point that pro players can actually make a living playing the sport. I would like to bring in more sponsors of tournaments so that the only thing non-pros have to look forward to at tournaments is not just some more plastic. I don't want to step on anyone's toes or offend anyone but I think this is coming and I would like to be involved with the process. I have had private parties at my house in years past where I gave away trips to Las Vegas or golfing day trips to some of the local courses, etc. This is very doable in disc golf.

Maturity is very important in leadership. If someone takes exception to little issues and makes big issues out of them, that must be overcome to promote the sport. Not everyone will agree with everything all the time, it is a democracy. The future of the TDSA has so much potential and I hope to be able to help bring that about but, the admin's must now start thinking of disc golf more from a national perspective than just a local club. It is coming. That is not to say anything in play needs to change. I hope this post does not get received as getting on my soapbox. We are now in a time where media coverage of the sport is very possible, purse money can be significantly improved, player packs can be enhanced, it is an exciting time for disc golf. I have made a substantial investment in this sport myself and will continue to do so. Talk about team OCD, that is me in a nutshell. Recently I have been having some conversations regarding the business of disc golf with sponsors and reps of the PDGA, there is much need for a concerted and cooperative effort by members to help elevate this sport to a level of play that guys like Kevin McKoy, Joe Rotan, Kelly Watson, Wayne Forrest and others have persevered for years to attain. I am a late comer but sometimes it takes someone from the outside to renew our enthusiasm and re-charge our batteries. If this post makes no sense to you then that is fine. Without going into detail, those who have a mind for business should be able to identify with what I am saying. The TDSA is absolutely the best [censored] disc golf club in America today. Let's re-visit some of the old enthusiasts that are on the membership list and try to get them to re-embrace the sport. I would be willing to host a dinner at some indoor facility in tulsa if we can get a cooperative effort by enough people. I AM NOT RUNNING FOR OFFICE but, I will be writing in Dave Wise on my ballot. I like the way Dave handled the team event issue. When issues came up, he very diplomatically sought input and made very deliberate decisions that I think everyone agreed with. It may not be perfect but it is a very good start.

I agree. Dave Wise should come back. He definitely has good business sense and a face (unlike mine) that can go on TV and promote the sport in a professional manner.

Maybe if we can get enough "write in's" for him he will reconsider. :)

there is no doubt that the professional side of this sport needs attention as well as the new player or regular player conversions to organized play circomstances . the largest feild of support is the untapped players who already love the game and can bring their talents to the table of the admin board. i can see personalities from each of the canidates that can help this club, the most evident is their willingness to run for a volunteer position in their local club.

I agree. Dave Wise should come back. He definitely has good business sense and a face (unlike mine) that can go on TV and promote the sport in a professional manner.

Maybe if we can get enough "write in's" for him he will reconsider. :)



Two Putt Two Putt Two Putt Two Putt
Oh yeah, I am voting for you furdog. :D

all very good points Jim. I like your style.

i all ways write in dave wise
even on the pdga ballot
look at the votes he all way get write in votes

and i think i have a new write in on my ballot
mr jim taylor

great post jim

� Great Stuff , Jim-bo � by-all-means , feel free to input and opinion-ize ANYTIME � you do well �on a soap-box� � :cool:

� and , an fyi � Wise �knows the drill� well � we STILL use him a bunch � he remains a golden-asset to his Club � we even show his info. still on the web-page as an additional-contact � he�s not shy ; he speaks his mind � we request him into many Administrator-Meetings as an advisor or for his specific expertise � just because he stepped aside from an admin-position ; he remains a viable and active resource � case-in-point , witness the installation of the New course in Owasso (as we are speaking) � :D

I would write in both Dave and Jim if they wanted to get elected. I don't want to write someone in that doesn't want to be part of the TDSA board. It sounds like Jim is not wanting to run at this time :(. Dave are you wanting back on the TDSA board :D.?

Thanks to all of you but I prefer the role that I have now. It allows me much more freedom to get things done behind the scenes. I have a few projects in the works and will continue to help the club any way I can. Maybe I will run again someday but for now I am very happy where I am.

The club is doing great, Its fantastic to see so many new faces around that want to get involved. I see nothing but good for our club and local disc golf scene in the future. Thanks to all those that submitted your names for the upcoming election, I wish all of you the best. If you're one of the few that doesn't get elected, PLEASE don't let it bother you or stop you from wanting to get involved. The club will have many new projects in the coming months and years that your help will be greatly appreciated. ;)

I will gladly accept Jim adn twoputts votes if they don't want them. :D

Thanks to all of you but I prefer the role that I have now. It allows me much more freedom to get things done behind the scenes. I have a few projects in the works and will continue to help the club any way I can. Maybe I will run again someday but for now I am very happy where I am.

The club is doing great, Its fantastic to see so many new faces around that want to get involved. I see nothing but good for our club and local disc golf scene in the future. Thanks to all those that submitted your names for the upcoming election, I wish all of you the best. If you're one of the few that doesn't get elected, PLEASE don't let it bother you or stop you from wanting to get involved. The club will have many new projects in the coming months and years that your help will be greatly appreciated. ;)



ok :cool:
is hicks on the ballot

ok :cool:
is hicks on the ballot


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... no need ... he's already there ... :cool:

� and , an fyi � Wise �knows the drill� well � we STILL use him a bunch � he remains a golden-asset to his Club � we even show his info. still on the web-page as an additional-contact � he�s not shy ; he speaks his mind � we request him into many Administrator-Meetings as an advisor or for his specific expertise � just because he stepped aside from an admin-position ; he remains a viable and active resource � case-in-point , witness the installation of the New course in Owasso (as we are speaking) � :D



Blah blah blah

That Dave Wise is SO overrated :o

I demand an audit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :o:D

I demand an audit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :o:D



ME TOO!!!!!!!!!!!

what are we auditing? :D

I demand an audit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :o:D



ME TOO!!!!!!!!!!!

what are we auditing? :D


how about a bar, we can do the count by drinking it dry!

Count me in Martin. :D:D

what time is the golf today?

vote none of the above!

� the annual Fall Picnic went very well for the Club on Sunday, Nov. 2� many non-members attended as well for disc-golf, food, and fun � many updates and announcements � introductions � the Club merchandise and banners were all about on display � and the weather was Perfect � purely enjoyable � the results of the 2008 TDSA elections were announced to the General Membership Meeting after they came in from afternoon-doubles � the morning round of singles was heavily-attended as well � the results of both the Singles and Doubles are e-mailed into the Tulsa World � I�ll get my e-mail copy from home and paste in onto this message-board also � votes from the elections: (alphabetically)
Josh Crowl = 25
Joyle Deering = 54
Paul Dorries = 13
Doug Duff = 43
Bryan Hinds = 15
Jake Regier = 28
Scott Schumacher = 57
( write-in-votes: Michael Barr=2 , Kyle Wilkes=1 , Dave Wise=1 )

Scott Schumacher = 57




Can you say....landslide!!!!! :o:) :cool:

I would first like to thank my campaign manager and "walking, talking, billboard" Chris Hicks for helping to get out there and get the word out and I would like to thank everyone that voted for me. :)

As I said yesterday, I promise to bring true reform to the TDSA and limit that Admin partying and spending of your money at Hooters to just 25% of the club annual income.

I will work to eliminate the "pork spending" and I promise not to take away anyone's gun's or religion.

I would also like to say don't give up or be discouraged to those not elected. Your participation is still important so don't be afraid to bring your idea's or suggestions before the Admins.

All of us working together can only make a great club even better. :cool:

Can you say Chandler Park and two or more courses?
How about 3 courses at the park, one entry level one mid grade and one to frustrate even the pro players?

furdog would also like to say don't give up or be discouraged to those not elected. Your participation is still important so don't be afraid to bring your idea's or suggestions before the Admins.

All of us working together can only make a great club even better.

what
how many votes did he get?
did llmoose count the votes ?
and is having an election at the moose mnt. with big moose on the ballot legal ..

furdog would also like to say don't give up or be discouraged to those not elected. Your participation is still important so don't be afraid to bring your idea's or suggestions before the Admins.

All of us working together can only make a great club even better.

what
how many votes did he get?
did llmoose count the votes ?
and is having an election at the moose mnt. with big moose on the ballot legal ..


Dude, the dog got passed over last year on the election but he kept on "dogging" the board meetings and contributing to the club so he has shown staying power and will make a fine addition to the board.
From the looks of the hill there will be a lot of changes to consider in the comming months before the Chandler stock of 09. we may have our hands full getting it all done but I am sure that we can do it.
"get er done" eh?

Congradulations go out to Crowl, Furdog, Reiger, Duff, and the Incumbant Mr. Deering. I am a little disapointed I didn't get picked, However the club is still in strong hands with these new admins.

I will continue my efforts to make the tdsa as strong a club as there is in disc golf. Hey, theres alway's next year.

Congradulations go out to Furdog, RegIer, Duff, and the Incumbant Mr. Deering. ... and kudos and congratulations to ALL members who offered to step-up on the 08 Ballot ...

I will continue my efforts to make the tdsa as strong a club as there is in disc golf. Hey, theres alway's next year. ... thank you Bryan ...

Bryan, if you want to take my place as the "Non-Admin Club Drunk" who just shows up to gripe about everything Opie has to say I'm sure nobody will mind. :)

He's an Aggie his thought process started out diverted. :eek:

DISC GOLF



TDSA Fall Picnic
Sunday, Nov.2
Chandler Park



Singles Tournament:

Pro Division: Cris Hicks 44

Pro Masters: Joyle Deering 46

Pro Women: Kim Click 51

Advanced Masters: Brad Zimmerman 46

Amateur: Robert Perkey 46

Novice Men: (tie) Jason Herzog, Caleb Green, Charlie Chung, Caleb Chung 49

Novice Women: Jamie Collette 64

Junior Boys: Zach Barton 60

Junior Girls: Phoenix Rogers 70



Doubles Tournament: ( 20-Hole Course )

Bill Moyers / Drew Custer 42





Next Events:

Saturday, Nov.8 at Pawhuska Lodge (Team Challenge) 9:00am

Sunday, Nov.9 at Course Dovillio 1:00pm

� those results were copied from the <u>Tulsa World </u> � check out the Sports section of the newspaper �
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� having them printed onto a chat-board somewhere is okay , also � but :
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� getting them in media-print , in the newspaper (which is also online on the web) ; now that�s heavy-duty � good recognition and enhanced credibility � just a li�l habit and routine we need to get-back-into � imo �

It ain't gonna be nothing until you get'em on the cover of the Rolling Stone though. ;)

� those results were copied from the <u>Tulsa World </u> � check out the Sports section of the newspaper �

� getting them in media-print , in the newspaper (which is also online on the web) ; now that�s heavy-duty � good recognition and enhanced credibility � just a li�l habit and routine we need to get-back-into � imo �



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... thank you Georse ... looked good , don't it ? ...

It ain't gonna be nothing until you get'em on the cover of the Rolling Stone though. ;)



This one is for furdog...

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Looks like my partner is ready to play this weekend!! Nice job Hicks! :D

Yep! I congratulated him earlier tonight. Can't wait for this event! At least one of your other partners is ready too Penny!

I saw you play at the OO. You're ready Mel!! These other teams better be practicing, its gonna be a dogfight.

I know the Dover would chime in, but I 'm pretty sure he is out putting /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif :D