What I mean specifically is over the past few years it was always Feldberg, Schultz, Climo, Korver, and Des dominating every event, but this year we've seen alot of other top pro's step up. Not to say they havent stepped up before, but this season you really cant say who is going to end up #1 for a particular tournament, or for the year. Doss, Nikko, Rico Valarie, and others have really shown this past year that there other big names out there, and are providing excellent competition for every Open player. I am loving this season because it's great to see these players show they are true contenders, and it almost feels as if the torch is starting to be passed. Anyone else agree about the variety of winners we have this season over the usual??

I haven't checked the stats but I don't think the top players are traveling as much as previous years which may be opening up more opportunities for more different players to win. There are also more and more events each year with several weekends where A-tiers are on opposite coasts which helps spread the wealth. The Drive for the Championships is also highlighting the results of more players with the point system going deeper at each NT.

It will be interesting to see how the actual stats play out because your observation may be true. However, I'm thinking KC or Barry have a good shot at another Worlds title this year based on the courses but it is Feldberg's old stomping grounds. Cale could round out the top four in the Finals as the newest face in that group but he was also top 4 last year.

Geoff Bennett might be the dark horse in there. KC won Majestic last year and the other guys mentioned were the Final 9 this year. The courses being played at K-Zoo are similar to those played for the Majestic this year.

Heard some guy named Mick Cabe is having a good year too, winning a lot of events.

Not this weekend. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

I'm rootin for McCabe to be the newest world champ! He's been tearin it up this year. Just averaged like a 1050+ once again this past weekend.

I don't know for some reason I am thinking Feldberg might get his 1st during his little homecoming this year,

Did you also see what Barry shot this weekend? I'm not sure Feldberg will get to maximize his distance advantage, similar to the Majestic where he lost to Barry, and that keeps KC and BS as strong contenders playing at their best on these average SSA courses for Worlds.

Did you also see what Barry shot this weekend? I'm not sure Feldberg will get to maximize his distance advantage, similar to the Majestic where he lost to Barry, and that keeps KC and BS as strong contenders playing at their best on these average SSA courses for Worlds.




Yeah but what he loses in distance advantage he makes up for in the luck or Borg advantage.

Is someone doubting Dave Feldberg? He's obviously the best ever, just ask him!

Yeah but what he loses in distance advantage he makes up for in the luck or Borg advantage.


OK, $10 on it and I get Barry, Ken or Cale to win. You get Borg and pick two others. What ya think?

Yeah but what he loses in distance advantage he makes up for in the luck or Borg advantage.


OK, $10 on it and I get Barry, Ken or Cale to win. You get Borg and pick two others. What ya think?



No because I got Ken right behind Borg.

Yeah but what he loses in distance advantage he makes up for in the luck or Borg advantage.


OK, $10 on it and I get Barry, Ken or Cale to win. You get Borg and pick two others. What ya think?


Can we go BS, KC, CL vs. "the field"?

It would be interesting to see a list of like the top 20 players with PDGA wins for this year

I'll give you four Open players just for fun. The deal is off if any of our choices doesn't start or finish all scheduled rounds. I think Randolph lived or was from there at one point but you never know if he's playing. I would think Borg, Bennett, Doss and Rico would be a formidable set of players. I think this setup would be ideal for Schweb to win if he could come.

Definitely pulling for Bennett.... All about the local winning a world championship.

Chuck, I know you'll know this. Who was the last person to a win a World Championship in their home state?

Harold Duvall is the only Open winner in the first Worlds in 1982 where he also lived in California.

Hammock won Masters in 2006 Augusta.

Vernon McCulley won GM in AZ 1990.

Neither Juliana nor Des won in Iowa which was their best chance although Des won in Houston in 2002 and is now a part-time resident of Texas but not so much then.

I'll give you four Open players just for fun. The deal is off if any of our choices doesn't start or finish all scheduled rounds. I think Randolph lived or was from there at one point but you never know if he's playing. I would think Borg, Bennett, Doss and Rico would be a formidable set of players. I think this setup would be ideal for Schweb to win if he could come.

Thanks Chuck, I appreciate that, wish I could make iTT.

When I saw the courses, I thought of you and the way you've been playing on similar style courses. I think you'd tear them up. Your homeboys who play there can tell you all about it.

TThe van can geTT you TThere, Schweb....

I'll give you four Open players just for fun.



i'll take that action.

However, Coldbrook was the only course there when Dave lived there so he'll have to learn the others like everyone else so look for Bennett to do well.

However, Coldbrook was the only course there when Dave lived there so he'll have to learn the others like everyone else so look for Bennett to do well.



Isn't mazoo like 2-3 hours from Canton?

More than 4 hours between Canton, OH and Kalamazoo.

Cold Brook has been changed a fair amount since Feldberg last played it but it's still a short, technical course.

Or Canton Mi which is buck forty five away

Or Canton Mi which is buck forty five away



Yeah that's where I was talking bout.

ive never personally played the courses but i think that as always KC has a good chance but feldberg has his shot at it the way hes been playing. and dont count out young gun paul mcbeth hes a got a good chance at doing it too as hes shown all year. also leviska, tank, avery,mccabe, and schultz are gonna make up the top 8 i believe. what do you all think?
and your top 8?

ive never personally played the courses but i think that as always KC has a good chance but feldberg has his shot at it the way hes been playing. and dont count out young gun paul mcbeth hes a got a good chance at doing it too as hes shown all year. also leviska, tank, avery,mccabe, and schultz are gonna make up the top 8 i believe. what do you all think?
and your top 8?



I don't know man there are a lot of good players that will be in the top 8. It is a long week so I always look for the Vets to be up at the top because ONE sub 1000 round will cause you to drop many strokes.

Cold Brook is the course where you have to shoot hot, close to double figures. Albion has the water hazards with a few holes that statistically a few will have enough trouble to to drop several shots. I'm not sure you'll see as much scoring swing on Oshtemo or Timber at the top although there are a few holes at each of those that favor the bigger guns like Doss, Feldberg, Leiviska and Kallstrom who may gain a few.

Cold Brook is the course where you have to shoot hot, close to double figures. Albion has the water hazards with a few holes that statistically a few will have enough trouble to to drop several shots. I'm not sure you'll see as much scoring swing on Oshtemo or Timber at the top although there are a few holes at each of those that favor the bigger guns like Doss, Feldberg, Leiviska and Kallstrom who may gain a few.



How far are the long holes?

I'm talking about tweener "par 3s" for most people in the 410 to 465 range with some woods to contend with that can be birdied with both accuracy and power.

I'm talking about tweener "par 3s" for most people in the 410 to 465 range with some woods to contend with that can be birdied with both accuracy and power.




I get that chuck just trying to get a fell for how long those tweener holes were as I plan on getting them. I also plan on missing most of the birdie holes. :p

I'm talking about tweener "par 3s" for most people in the 410 to 465 range with some woods to contend with that can be birdied with both accuracy and power.




I get that chuck just trying to get a fell for how long those tweener holes were as I plan on getting them. I also plan on missing most of the birdie holes. :p


I've been doing that lately. I've also begun to notice how much easier a 275 foot up shot from the fairway for par or birdie on a long par 4 is compared to a tee shot. Odd.

Cold Brook is the course where you have to shoot hot, close to double figures. Albion has the water hazards with a few holes that statistically a few will have enough trouble to to drop several shots. I'm not sure you'll see as much scoring swing on Oshtemo or Timber at the top although there are a few holes at each of those that favor the bigger guns like Doss, Feldberg, Leiviska and Kallstrom who may gain a few.



You forgot Peckham....

and I'm sure Feldberg likes that you have him on that list... but not Avery? :)

Just listed the guys who came to mind that finished in the top 5 at Worlds last year. Randolph would be on it also but not sure if we'll see him. Whereas Highbridge had many opportunities for these players to gain an advantage, Kalamazoo will be a different set of challenges where distance won't pay off as much. It's going to be a lot more like Worlds in Flagstaff in 2003 or Augusta 2006 with a ski hill course in place of Hippodrome.

I eagled your puny Par 6. ready to double eagle your first Par 7. ;)

That's only because John couldn't get the boulder buncr done on that hole before the event. :D You'll wish you had a par 6 and some more 5s at Kalamazoo. Maybe two par 5s total on all pro courses with one at Albion. Haven't seen Timber but I heard there's at least one. Unless they're doing something tricky in rerouting at Cold Brook, 360-400 might be the longest hole there. I think Oshtemo has two holes in the 500s but no 5s.

I can do that. Getting excited to play KC for Worlds next year. Love that Blue Valley course. Just awesome.

Is there gonna be BUNCRs at worlds this...humbug.

Not likely but maybe at USDGC and certainly Players Cup.

BungCr.

Just listed the guys who came to mind that finished in the top 5 at Worlds last year. Randolph would be on it also but not sure if we'll see him. Whereas Highbridge had many opportunities for these players to gain an advantage, Kalamazoo will be a different set of challenges where distance won't pay off as much. It's going to be a lot more like Worlds in Flagstaff in 2003 or Augusta 2006 with a ski hill course in place of Hippodrome.



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Comment by Mike Randolph on June 11, 2008 at 5:58pm
Hello Lansing!

So I've got my flights booked to come home for the CCR open. Been awhile since I played a tourny back there...like maybe 8 years?
Flying to Midway and driving in...hoping to play Timber Ridge on Friday in prep. for Worlds. Anyone want to join?
Also would like to register or reserve a spot. Is Bob Walz a member here? Guess I'll just give him a call.
Anyway, just wanted to say hey and Ill see ya in 5 weeks!

-Mike
CCR #5 (i think...it's been awhile)



looks like you'll see him

That's great. He ought to have Timber Ridge in his pocket for sure. I'm guessing he'll make A pool to start this year although it doesn't matter since there's only one Open pool to start.

Chuck, to your earlier question...Randolph is playing, so I'd expect to see him in the top 4.

I hope he makes it. He's a crowd pleaser to watch and a great ambassador for the sport when he has the time to play.