Sign up & Details Here (http://www.twistedflyer.com/tournament_details.php?t_id=30)

Doubles on Friday the 20th.

Course Map:
http://sanantoniodiscclub.com/images/BudOpenMcClainCourseMap.jpg

i like the obs on the alternates. takes a wide field and makes it fairly tight. two thumbs up

i like the obs on the alternates. takes a wide field and makes it fairly tight. two thumbs up



We'll be playing those holes this weekend and the mini if anyone wants to get a frist look at them.

Raffle Prizes are coming in :D.

Could this event be a super skins event?

I will be getting the player's list up and running ASAP. You can email me at redsealking@yahoo.com with all the appropriate info and I will get you on the list. You could post it on here too, if you want
Chris

jason smith - int - #35612 - ace pot yes - paid on twisted flyer
edwin nelson - rec - non-member - ace pot yes - i'm paying for him tonight on twisted flyer

The San Antonio Disc Club will be running the doubles on the Friday before the tournament 6-20-08. Flex Tee Off from 2:45-5:00 P.M.

Open $21.00 a Team
Advanced $11.00 a Team
Intermediate $11.00 a Team

Bring your own partner.

why the odd $ 1 amount

why the odd $ 1 amount



$1.00 per Team Entry goes to our club fund. The rest goes to payout.

ah ok thanks that is what I thought but was not sure.

why the odd $ 1 amount


A portion of the proceeds go to the Fi.C.Wa.C. Fund.

Find Chris Ware's Chair Fund :D

Do any local players have extra space?

Emily

Emily you have a pm... :cool:

We'll be playing those holes this weekend and the mini if anyone wants to get a frist look at them.



SADC played the 21 hole layout at McClain this weekend at our Saturday mini. The holes played well. One person on my card birdied all 3 additional hole (I only got one of them).

Don't forget to get registered for this event on Twistedflyer.com or sign up in person at the weekend McClain Minis.

We can sign up through Third Coast folks as well right?

We can sign up through Third Coast folks as well right?



I'd assume so since it is a 3rd Coast event. See Dangle for more details. :D

How many people know you mean Mike Smith? Trying to help your dialogue not make it more difficult.

How many people know you mean Mike Smith? Trying to help your dialogue not make it more difficult.


Everyone now. :D

Thanks for looking out!

That was my point.

Do any local players have extra space?

Emily



Hey Laura........me too, me too! :D

Do any local players have extra space?

Emily



Hey Laura........me too, me too! :D



:D:DOf course Matt... :cool:

Its the Karshis Hostel

for those who dont know, $127 is being transfered to the ace pot from the Beeville tournament...

for those who dont know, $127 is being transfered to the ace pot from the Beeville tournament...


Holes 1, 3, 4, 6, 7, 11, 12, 14, 16, 18 are all under 300' and aceable ... of course most of those are bogeyable too :D.

After some confusion with PDGA and who has the password for uploading the player's list, it is in my possession and the list will be posted tonight. Guaranteed.

i checked the players list... what happened? how many already signed up at least?

I can tell you exactly what happened. I went golfing after work yesterday, wore myself out in the heat and wind, went home and fell asleep. 4:30 today.

The infection spreads.

Any host hotel?

Player's list is up!! Get me your info if you want on it.

Any host hotel?



Yes ... I'll post the info today.

SADC has the course looking better every time I play it!!! Huge raffle, possible $500 Skins match???
Discraft, Innova and Millenium all available!!!

Will the results from Beeville be turned in by the 10th so they make the next update?


Anyway can't wait to see what McClain is like.

you'll love it,at least half the holes are flick shots. real nice design; hole #7 is probably the signature hole and its a nice 1. I am gonna hate missing this tourney. :(

you'll love it,at least half the holes are flick shots. real nice design; hole #7 is probably the signature hole and its a nice 1. I am gonna hate missing this tourney. :(




That's great considering I can't flick righty. :p

you'll love it,at least half the holes are flick shots. real nice design; hole #7 is probably the signature hole and its a nice 1. I am gonna hate missing this tourney. :(




That's great considering I can't flick righty. :p



i'd love to air out my lefty there. wish i could make this one. sucks to be me.

do you flick with your left hand like Landers? just curious all 3 of us are left handed and throw with our right. :cool:

do you flick with your left hand like Landers? just curious all 3 of us are left handed and throw with our right. :cool:




Yeah and I am getting a lot better at it. I feel good with it up to 250.

Beeville results will be in by the deadline, along with other 3rd coast events. No worries, man.

Any host hotel?


<u> Host Hotel </u>
Microtel Inn
15314 San Pedro Ave
San Antonio, TX 78232
(210) 404-1900
www.microtelinn.com (http://www.microtelinn.com)
4.8 miles from course
This is the likely location of the player's party on saturday night too.
Mention "PDGA Disc Golf" when registering for the special rate of $85/night.

Player's list is up!! Get me your info if you want on it.


Jayson Houston
26668
Ma1
I will be giving money to Scott H. this week!

The players party is scheduled for Saturday night at the host hotel. There will be lots of free beer from the presenting sponsor plus door prizes. Prizes include some discs and at least one entry into an upcoming tournament.

How many rounds do we play?

San Antonio Bud Open (B Tier) Disc Golf Tournament
Date: June 21 &amp; 22
Time: TBD
Location: Bryan McClain Park, San Antonio, TX
Cost: TBD
Format: Three rounds of 21 holes each, 2 rounds on Saturday, 1 round on Sunday
Details: 3rd Coast in collaboration with the San Antonio Disc Club as part of the 3rd Coast 6-Pack Series presented by Budweiser is proud to bring you the inaugural San Antonio Bud Open. More details as date nears. For more information contact the San Antonio Disc Club.

Click here to register for the San Antonio Bud Open

On Saturday SADC's Chief Officer of BBQ (a must have for any club) will be cooking lunch. The cost is $5/plate. We'll have burgers with all the fixings and Ernie's famous hot wings. Trust me, if you like hot wings you must try these. I'm a wing connoisseur and these are the best wings I've ever had!
http://www.wisebread.com/files/fruganomics/imagecache/blog_image_full/files/fruganomics/blog-images/hot%20wings.jpg

i'm definately down for the wings!!! - that's the only reason i'm playing the bud open

Acepot should be over $400 or $500 for this one....

sure alot of "not sure what to expect"
going on at these 3rd coast events
How about set in stone info....what a concept?....actual its expected!!!!!!
If there is a skins match...publish it! Not could be!
players list...publish it!.....not maybe, i can't find my password, internet is down, or whatever
Approved tournament basket will be used....shouldn't have to publish this....its expected!
So lets try......publishing a flyer with EXACT info....I am not a fan of surprises....with that said Do yah need ANYTHING to make sure the event is up to TEXAS standards?

San Antonio Bud Open (B Tier) Disc Golf Tournament
Date: June 21 &amp; 22
Time: TBD
Location: Bryan McClain Park, San Antonio, TX
Cost: TBD
Format: Three rounds of 21 holes each, 2 rounds on Saturday, 1 round on Sunday
Details: 3rd Coast in collaboration with the San Antonio Disc Club as part of the 3rd Coast 6-Pack Series presented by Budweiser is proud to bring you the inaugural San Antonio Bud Open. More details as date nears. For more information contact the San Antonio Disc Club.

Click here to register for the San Antonio Bud Open


How about filling in some of those TBD?

Vinnie- you were the biggest critic from our last event...We had a problem with baskets and printers, it happens!!! People find out who they can count on when something like that happens...
If you knew anything about our series we said initially that at two of our five qualifiers we would have a $500 Skins Match!! So, no I cant say yes or no whether we will be doing one at this event!!!
We just need people to be supportive and not so **** critical!!! Which I can only think of a couple that havent been..Not everyone has td'd 100 events, not everyone has the number of active club members that some of us have. So for the last year and the 8 events we have run, this was the first time any major problem happened. period....confused...

sure alot of "not sure what to expect"
going on at these 3rd coast events
How about set in stone info....what a concept?....actual its expected!!!!!!
If there is a skins match...publish it! Not could be!
players list...publish it!.....not maybe, i can't find my password, internet is down, or whatever
Approved tournament basket will be used....shouldn't have to publish this....its expected!
So lets try......publishing a flyer with EXACT info....I am not a fan of surprises....with that said Do yah need ANYTHING to make sure the event is up to TEXAS standards?



All of the info you have requested in on the flyers which are available on www.twistedflyer.com (http://www.twistedflyer.com) or at the course for on site sign up.

In Mike's Defense...I was not there at the Beeville Tournament, but I was made aware of all the mishaps that occurred. Unfortunately, Third Coast is a pretty small club in the grand scheme of things, and so we're only as reliable as the members we put our faith in, and the word they give us that they have things under control. Mike has undertaken this entire tournament year after some other idividuals were not able to assist in the same capacity they had promised. Sure, there are a lot of should've, could've, would've from that weekend, but the point is it was what it was, and all we can do is learn from our misstakes and ensure that they don't happen again. Did we, as a club, bite off more than we can chew? Possibly, but the bottom line is we have several people in this town who love the game of Disc Golf and are trying to do all that we can to provide tournaments locally that everyone can participate in and enjoy. We will continue to do our best, and continue to welcome constructive criticism. Again, on behalf of Third Coast Disc Golf, I apologize for the situations in Beeville, but please don't think we would ever do anything purposely to jeopardize our club's reputation.

Now back to what's important ....

http://www.buffalofoods.net/images/HotWings.jpg + http://www.llanocrawfishopen.com/llanocrawfishopen/budwieser.jpg = http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb51/xmagicshep1/drooling-homer.gif

Yes, Mike and Third Coast have been a wonderful addition to the Texas scene.

I'm sure Vinnie has a legit point; he usually does. I'm also pretty sure he is grumpy. ;)

Yes, Mike and Third Coast have been a wonderful addition to the Texas scene.

I'm sure Vinnie has a legit point; he usually does. I'm also pretty sure he is grumpy. ;)



second on all points

We just need people to be supportive and not so **** critical!!!


I am supportive of all events bettering Texas Golf....and the 3rd coast events are good for Texas. But you can run the best events forever...all it take is one bad one to ruin all the that good work.

Vinnie- you were the biggest critic from our last event

I wasn't the biggest, I am the only one pointing out the issues with corrective solutions.
I want this very clear with you and the 3rd coast...I want to help and if there is anything I can do I will.
Thats alot different from complaining and not have a solution. With the amount events, cost of traveling to events.....It is very important to the player to know what is going on. I plan on being at the event....but I shouldn't have to ask ....whens the players meeting?
Now lets quit talking about the past and move on to the present.

In Mike's Defense...I was not there at the Beeville Tournament, but I was made aware of all the mishaps that occurred. Unfortunately, Third Coast is a pretty small club in the grand scheme of things, and so we're only as reliable as the members we put our faith in, and the word they give us that they have things under control. Mike has undertaken this entire tournament year after some other idividuals were not able to assist in the same capacity they had promised. Sure, there are a lot of should've, could've, would've from that weekend, but the point is it was what it was, and all we can do is learn from our misstakes and ensure that they don't happen again. Did we, as a club, bite off more than we can chew? Possibly, but the bottom line is we have several people in this town who love the game of Disc Golf and are trying to do all that we can to provide tournaments locally that everyone can participate in and enjoy. We will continue to do our best, and continue to welcome constructive criticism. Again, on behalf of Third Coast Disc Golf, I apologize for the situations in Beeville, but please don't think we would ever do anything purposely to jeopardize our club's reputation.


3rd coast maybe small but Texas is big and there are plenty of resourses outside 3rd coast that asked could and will help!
And no I aint grumpy.
I have played two events this year that fell short of PDGA expectations and we can't ask the PDGA for N.T. events or USDGC spots if we are running 2 day minis

I agree with you fully Vinnie, and I know you don't know me, but if we do need help, I won't hesistate to ask. Based on hearsal alone, I appreciate all that you do for Texas Disc Golf.
Chris

Now to the WINGS!!! Is that just a ploy for us out of towners? Feed us wings so we can't get a good grip on our discs?

San Antonio Budweiser Open- B Tier
6/21 and 6/22
Tournament #3 of the
2008 3rd Coast 6-pack Series by


BUDWEISER


Three rounds of 21 holes at Bryan McClain Park- San Antonio, TX!!!
$600 added cash to pro divisions with $100 added to amateur payout!
Registrations will be taken from 7:00 am until 8:00 am.
First round will begin at 9:00 am, after a short players meeting at 8:30 am.


Second round will begin at approximately 2:00 pm.


Big players party Saturday night to include door prizes and lots of beer!!!


Final round will begin at 9:30 am on Sunday. Raffle and awards ceremony will be taking place at approximately 2:00 pm.
Half of the raffle goes to the Womens Shelter of South Texas with the other half going to the San Antonio Disc Golf Club!


5% of each divisions payout will be used for bonus payout at finale and champions awards!
If ace pot is not hit, half the amount will be transferred to the next tournament in the series and the other half being thrown off as a CTP- 1st, 2nd and 3rd!

Great players packs for all amateurs.
Must make three of five qualifiers to make bonus payout at A tier finale! The Budweiser Select Corpus Christi Challenge will be played at Live Oak Park in Ingleside and West Guth Park in Corpus Christi with $2000 added to pro payout!!!

Now to the WINGS!!! Is that just a ploy for us out of towners? Feed us wings so we can't get a good grip on our discs?



We'll need to procure some wet naps.
http://www.brentschulkin.com/photos/uncategorized/moistinstructions.jpg

chris craig....not sure if I do know you I am real good at face....puTTing a name to a face....I'm not so good.
But If you would like to sit down and DISCuse Texas golf . Pull me to the side and let me get on my soup box :D

Something I would keep in mind is a plan B for these event...if it comes a gully washer

Come out and play the course this weekend ... then stick around for trash clean up day :D.

Mike -
I've had several people ask me, "what's the tournament disc you can pre-pay for?"

I bet it is a surprise.

Its more like $25 credit towards our club store, for only $20 pre-payment...

I would love to have some running water on the course, totally different course!!!
SADC has the course looking awesome, alt holes will not be easy....
For those interested, SADC just began league play at McClain Park, Wednesdays at 6pm Sharp(Scott H.). From shorter tees, but still very challenging....

Hey Mike, are y'all taking sign ups on Friday or Saturday?

do you have to pre pay to get a tournement disc?

Hey Mike, are y'all taking sign ups on Friday or Saturday?


I will be at the course on Friday, from 4 to 7pm taking registrations...
You have to prepay through twisted flyer to get the extra $5 off shop merchandise...

do you have to pre pay to get a tournement disc?


Nope- we will have lots of tourney stamp merch...

can't wait!!

Can we sign up on Friday afternoon? sign me up.

Me too!! I should be there by 3pm Friday. See you guys there.

me 3 I will be with el chile

12970 MPM

Can we sign up on Friday afternoon? sign me up.


I will be at the course friday from 4pm to 7pm to take reg..
We will put Chile and Cware on list...

thank you

add me to the list
MA1
Josh Barling

Me too please:
Mike Graham
MA1
33130

Thanks :cool:it's a little different being single :D:)
See ya friday afternoon.

Getting closer....
I hear the course is looking sick, which is a bad thing for me cause it was hard enough in the winter time with very little foliage.

Just got the discraft plastic for this weekend, WOW!!! Stamp looks awesome!!! FLX ESP 150 Flicks, FLX Surge SS, lots of Force's, Flicks, buzzs and challengers...

Did u get any Z- Forces?

Did u get any Z- Forces?



I don't those have been released to the general public yet :(

What hotel is the Player's Party at? What time does it start?

What hotel is the Player's Party at? What time does it start?



Microtel Inn
15314 San Pedro Ave
San Antonio, TX 78232
(210) 404-1900
www.microtelinn.com (http://www.microtelinn.com)
4.8 miles from course

On a side note y'all don't want to the miss the players party ... free beer and raffle prizes including an entry into the Live Oak Summer Open which is taking place 2 weeks after this event.

What hotel is the Player's Party at? What time does it start?



Microtel Inn
15314 San Pedro Ave
San Antonio, TX 78232
(210) 404-1900
www.microtelinn.com (http://www.microtelinn.com)
4.8 miles from course
This is the likely location of the player's party on saturday night too.

On a side note y'all don't want to the miss the players party ... free beer and raffle prizes including an entry into the Live Oak Summer Open which is taking place 2 weeks after this event.



Thanks Scott!! :cool:

Player's list at 56....

Where's all my MA2s at?

you can put me on the list!
i guess im paying on friday

This is going to be a fun one! I'm predicting right now that I will have more fun than anyone, this weekend, and thus leave on Sunday the victor. ....emoticon...

tried to sign up a friend of mine through twisted flyer.

please add Armando Urias #36527 to MA2 (intermediate). he will be paid by friday. thanks

might as well....puTT me down
#5521

Player's list at 56....

Where's all my MA2s at?

Bunch of them in MA1.

I need to get in contact with Mike. Can someone PM me his phone number please?

I need to get in contact with Mike. Can someone PM me his phone number please?



(911) 420-5689


JK ... I PM'd you his nunmber.

will the extra holes be set-up for dubs?

will the extra holes be set-up for dubs?



They will not be played for doubles.

The tee signs should be in place, OB string is in place, and the basket locations will be marked with spray paint but the baskets won't be in place until Saturday morning.

is there still room left for me to get in this weekend?

Asolutely, get me your info and I'll put you on the list.

Hey Vinnie....you want MPO or MPM?

mpm and if the feild stays small ...I'll jump to mpo

Right on. Got you in.

Don't forget to play the Pre-Tournament Doubles at McClain.
Flex start between 2:45-5:00 P.M.
Hole #1 at Pavillion.

Open $21.00 a Team
Advanced $11.00 a Team
Int/Rec $11.00 a Team

See you all tomorrow. :) :)

I just got the final update from Twisted Flyer, so if you signed up through them in the last week or so, and haven't already notified me, I will add you to the player's list tonight.

Call me I have the spread sheet updated as well.

Lance...PM me your number. I lost my phone.

Add me in Advanced Masters. I'll be out there Friday afternoon to pay and play.

Corey Peschke
#24319

Played the course today. It is going to be hot!
Make sure you have plenty of water!!!!

Lance...PM me your number. I lost my phone.



You have my number on one of the discs you have pulled from the water...Do not joke.

I would love to have some running water on the course, totally different course!!!
SADC has the course looking awesome, alt holes will not be easy....
For those interested, SADC just began league play at McClain Park, Wednesdays at 6pm Sharp(Scott H.). From shorter tees, but still very challenging....



It looks like you might get your wish ... forecast calls for rain today. If it rains that will definately add water to holes 16 &amp; 17 and may add water to holes 5 &amp; 6.

will there be cold water jugs on the course for sat and sun and will the temp holes be set up today? thanks

Played the course today. It is going to be hot!
Make sure you have plenty of water!!!!



Luckily McClain has a lot of shade. Be sure to stay in the shade.

We'll have water on the course too so bring refillable containers. I believe we'll also be vending gatorade at the main pavillion during play and between rounds.

will there be cold water jugs on the course for sat and sun and will the temp holes be set up today? thanks



See previous post regarding water.

Regarding the temp holes ...
The tee signs should be in place, OB string is in place, and the basket locations will be marked with spray paint but the baskets won't be in place until Saturday morning.

the real warether update..

Jun 20 Today
Variable clouds with thunderstorms, especially this morning. High 99F. Winds SE at 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 50%.

Jun 20 Tonight
Scattered thunderstorms during the evening. Partly cloudy skies after midnight. Low around 75F. Winds SE at 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 40%.

Jun 21 Tomorrow
Sunshine and clouds mixed. High 99F. Winds SSE at 5 to 10 mph.

Jun 21 Tomorrow night
Variable clouds with a slight chance of thunderstorms overnight. Low 74F. Winds E at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 30%.

Jun 22 Sunday
Partly cloudy, chance of a thunderstorm. ENE 9 mph winds Highs in the upper 90s and lows in the mid 70s.

Is that like the real peterman tour?

eggsactly. see you guys around 2:30 or so . should be ok to park in the school parking lot right since it is summer time??

eggsactly. see you guys around 2:30 or so . should be ok to park in the school parking lot right since it is summer time??



Yes. Please park ONLY in the school lot. Do not drive down the unpaved road into the park. That area is off limits to vehicles. Again park only in the school lot.

when will someone be out there to take money for registration?

when will someone be out there to take money for registration?


4:00 pm - 7:00 pm

We'll be offline starting now for the duration. If you have questions please come out to the course.

If you are not on the players list and you plan on playing this weekend, you need to come see me today at the course from 4pm til 7pm to register!!!

I am adding Smokey to the list.

Also need to add Ryan Sawyer and need to drop Wallace Hall...Hes skeeered...
Add Logan Sheets to Open...

****! What a tough Adv field, I might drop to INT!!! (just kidding lancey poo)

Got Logan adding Ryan dropping Wallace the weener. Come to INT and get whooped.

So when did Brandon Melton turn 40? Gotta tell me your secret BM.

Super D's prediction on ADV champion......narrowed it down to the ninjas but who will it be? ProPutt, LeadPipe, G Thing, or maybe even Wally Gagger.

Hopefully WG because he's been bottom feeding for quite some time...not that I haven't. :(

Wallice is out, ok ProPutt its all up to you. G Thing is gonna make it tough though. I think he plays that course in his sleep.

Why is everyone so hatefull towards me? Bottom feeding? One bad tour weekend and im now a bottom feeder? Come on SUper D! lol. Sorry guys couldnt make it!!

Where all the other Victoria folks at?

Why is everyone so hatefull towards me? Bottom feeding? One bad tour weekend and im now a bottom feeder? Come on SUper D! lol. Sorry guys couldnt make it!!



Sorry Wallace but Int doesn't count. You're swimming with the big fish now. Why so sensitive Wallie? Hey don't worry because when my rating comes out next week you can hail the remarks back on me....lol

SA Bud Open Pre-Tournament Doubles Results 06-20-08

17 Teams :)

Open

1. Phil M. / Joe T. 44 $75.00
2. Ernie H. / Ray P. 47 $45.00
3. Ben L. / Scott H. 48 $30.00
3. Fernando B. / Orlando P. 48 $30.00
5. Dusty V. / Larry V. 49
5. Shawn H. / Tracy O. 49
7. Seth L. / James D. 50
8. Carlos M. / John F. 51
8. Charlie C. / Marsh 51

Advanced

1. Jayson H. / Randall K. 48 $25.00
2. Ben B. / Julian J. 51 $15.00
3. Brett B. / Shannon M. 56
3. Bill K. / Matt M. 56

Intermediate

1. Mark A. / Charlie R. 53 $20.00
1. Billy W. / Bryan C. 53 $20.00
3. Dave S. / Mike Mc. 56
4. Jason S. / Edwin N. 60

If you cashed, see me anytime this weekend between rounds and I will get you paid out. Thanks for playing. See you all tomorrow.

3 aces so far 91 players...

S C O R E S ? ? ? :D:D

scores???????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????????????

SCORES??????????????????????????????

SCORES??????????????????????????????

who won Scooter?

Olse was winning by 6 with me in 2nd and Bratten 7 back. I caught Olse but lost in a playoff on the 3rd hole. Anyway I want to see the ratings because they might be big.

Anyway

Olse -25
Hall -25
Bratten- 13
Soete -11
Downs -11
Brown -10
Sawyer -10

that sucks would've been cool to see you win; I managed to hit another acepot for the 2nd weekend in a row. I hit the Peace mini acepot last weekend for $300 and I hit the Tyler Ace pot at their bagtag challenge on my 1st throw of the day for $25 because Jerry Power hit the ace last week. I am going to try and hit another ace at 1 of the Shreveport minis this week. I am in East TX watching over properties while my entire family is in Alaska for a week.

very good time and great people to hang out with.
3rd Coast did it right!

Will there be any scores up by Friday? :eek: :cool::D

Absolutely. I hope to receive the scores via email today and will have them posted by tonight.

Good Times Bad golf. congrats to the winners.. ok few suggestion.

1. once you have flyers with entry fees already circulating and have taken some sign ups you need to leave the price whatever the flyer says.. some masters paied $65 and some paied $70 :) glad I was one of the $65 ones.

also if you post information on here like
Final round will begin at 9:30 am on Sunday

then you need to start at 9:30 not 9:00.. there were people that were late to there hole due to this issue. :confused: thank you for running events and giving us golfers something to do.. but once it is in print you need to leave as is..

On behalf of the San Antonio Disc Club I want to thank 3rd Coast for having one of their 6 pack series events at McClain. We really enjoyed having all the players (91 players!) out at the course. The SADC and its members have worked really hard on improving this course since last summer and it is great to see such a good response to play an event at this course. We hope everyone had a great time and look forward to seeing you all at our upcoming events.

well done guys. well done!!! (i would add a little smiley face here but i don't know how) great job with the scores and cards and all. thanks for a great weekend.

that sucks would've been cool to see you win; I managed to hit another acepot for the 2nd weekend in a row. I hit the Peace mini acepot last weekend for $300 and I hit the Tyler Ace pot at their bagtag challenge on my 1st throw of the day for $25 because Jerry Power hit the ace last week. I am going to try and hit another ace at 1 of the Shreveport minis this week. I am in East TX watching over properties while my entire family is in Alaska for a week.



Me too! :D

what was the split on the ace pot?

4 way split at $140

Scores............day 4!

Is it tonight?

yah need to seemer......

Scores are finally posted!!! Sorry it took me so long, it was a long day back at work Monday.

Thanks C4!!!
I want to thank everybody!!! Couldnt have pulled this one off without the help of SADC, primarily Scott Hougland, Greg Galloway and Stacy and Orlando P.
Thanks to the sponsers; Budweiser, Twisted Flyer, Innova, Discraft, WJC Network, Sawyer Audiology, SADC, BADGE, HOTT Series/Team Justice and Lonestar Lumber!!! 93 Golfers, didnt turn anyone away, four aces!!! Awesome food on Saturday.... my bad on the third round start time....see everyone next month in Ingleside, SHULE SCHOOL!!!

yah need to seemer......




I think that is simmer. :D

Houston 234

1. once you have flyers with entry fees already circulating and have taken some sign ups you need to leave the price whatever the flyer says.. some masters paied $65 and some paied $70 :) glad I was one of the $65 ones.




That was the fault of only one person. Me. I C&amp;P'd a wrong line or two when I was in a hurry. I never claimed to be perfect, matter of fact my ankles get wet when walking across swimming pools.

USDGC spot update:
Mike makes up 6 points on Vinnie to be only 12 points back with 2 events left.

I wonder if Mike knows? If not someone tell him to play PIAS instead of Kyle.

I contacted him a few weeks ago.
Before he missed the South Texas Shootout, he was only 2 points behind.

I think with the amount of tournaments we have as qualifiers it makes it more about who plays the most VS who plays the best. It is just kind of hard to hit 90% of TX B-tiers to have a shot with gas the way it is.

That is part of the reason behind the method.
Participation counts and it should encourage the top pros to attend the smaller B-Tiers.

As of the San Antonio Bud Open, we have played 22 events.
184 different Texas Pros have competed in at least one event.
Of those 184 players:
86 have competed in exactly 1 event.
28 have competed in more than 5 events.
10 have competed in 10 or more events.
5 of those 10 have never had a top 5 finish (with all non-texas players removed and all pros grouped together)

The two leaders have played in 13 and 11 events.

don't worry your head Matt.....I told both Mike and Joe to their face. Where they stand and what my plan is.

and I told them before beeville

so do you get more points by beating more people in your division or by winning the division you are entered in? I would think the more players you beat the more points you should get it seems to add more pressure when playing against other high rated players.

its by score

It's by score, with a maximum number of points per event.
20 points for a B-Tier
30 points for an A-Tier

All events of the same tier carry the same max value so areas with large events do not have an advantage over events with less of a player pool. You never know when you sign up and travel to an event how many opponents will choose to show up. You should not be penalized for winning an event that only a handful of people chose to attend.

It's also to help increase participation of the top players at the smaller B-Tiers and maybe free up some of the C-Tiers for the local Pros.

It's by score, with a maximum number of points per event.
20 points for a B-Tier
30 points for an A-Tier

All events of the same tier carry the same max value so areas with large events do not have an advantage over events with less of a player pool. You never know when you sign up and travel to an event how many opponents will choose to show up. You should not be penalized for winning an event that only a handful of people chose to attend.

It's also to help increase participation of the top players at the smaller B-Tiers and maybe free up some of the C-Tiers for the local Pros.




So instead of being punished you are rewarded at the smaller events because you can get 15 points for 5th out of 10 just like the other guy who gets 5th out of 20.

Yes, that would be part of the incentive to attend smaller outlying events.

If you planned carefully, you could score very well by picking the events with small pro fields. I don't think you could win without doing fairly well in a few of the larger events too though.

There were only a handful of events (three) last year that failed to have at least 20 pro players from Texas in attendance. So 5th place is still ahead of quite a few players.

very interesting.. I vote next year we send the person from Texas who does the most promotion and good for the sport in the state of TEXAS. be a true ambassador for our state for the sport not just a player who can attend the most tournaments. or maybe even take suggestion on how to get our representative through asking the current TEXAS PDGA MEMBERS. just my thoughts.

Congrats V on the Texas spot.

Yes, that would be part of the incentive to attend smaller outlying events.

If you planned carefully, you could score very well by picking the events with small pro fields. I don't think you could win without doing fairly well in a few of the larger events too though.

There were only a handful of events (three) last year that failed to have at least 20 pro players from Texas in attendance. So 5th place is still ahead of quite a few players.




It also discourages players from traveling to out of state events. Maybe the qualifiers should just be 5 events with the same system we currently have just fewer events. I really don't like the quantity Vs quality aspect.

but players can and do qualify by going to other states, yes? I think the state spot should go to someone who plays well in the state. Or, as seahorse put it, someone who promotes the sport in the state... although, deciding the winner would be tough

but players can and do qualify by going to other states, yes? I think the state spot should go to someone who plays well in the state. Or, as seahorse put it, someone who promotes the sport in the state... although, deciding the winner would be tough



No, if you go to the memorial the same weekend as a TX event you get nothing. Why don't we just do it by PDGA points? I don't like the PDGA points but at least those who travel will be encouraged to do so.

says the guy who qualified in Tulsa?

all ideas for sure. I just dont think its the best way to do this having the same guidelines every year which are put in place by same person every year. I guess its time to run for texas state coordinator position if I want change ... :D

or just do it by highest rated TEXAS player who has not already qualified since we all love ratings so much

says the guy who qualified in Tulsa?



Yeah and by going there I was gambling that I would get a spot and if I didn't I would have dropped back in the Rep spot by missing COTO.

There have been several perfectly good threads about this in the past. Before I started doing it, it was done by whoever asked first. I tried to have it decided by a single tournament, ended up a couple of thousand in the hole on that one. The players wanted a competitive method, I wanted to promote the smaller outlying events. We could put it up on EBAY in late June.

It looks like Vinnie is going to win this year by playing 15 events in a year. He is likely to play a 16th as well, but that may not be necessary. That means he missed 8 events. Next year there will be even more to choose from because of the number of A-Tiers and new B-Tiers that have started this year.

If you have a better way that does not have me making a subjective decision (as in picking the disc golfer that most promotes the sport), I'm all ears. I may not use the idea, but I most certainly will listen and consider anything objective that promotes disc golf across the entire state.

Besides, I'd pick myself the first year under that plan. :cool:

Why not give points for all B-tiers and above instead of just Texas. It is hard for us up in DF/W to drive to drive down south all the time. And I think N/T points should def count for the tex rep spot.

Because I am not going to check the results for every event in the country (or world) searching for Texas players.

If I did find one, how should I rate his performance? In Texas events all non-Texas players are removed from the event and players grouped together by score before the finish order is established. If he is the only one there he would be in first place.

As it stands, Austin players have an advantage. But they have an advantage because the TDs in that area have stepped up and started running more B-Tier and above events while DFW and Houston are slowing. Northwest Texas is going gangbusters. Sanctioned events are on the rise and participation numbers are looking very good. They are doing something right out there. That is a good thing and part what I see as my job. I don't think they are directly related to the USDGC spot, but it doesn't hurt either.

The rules are simple, objective, consistent, and reward participation as well as performance.

Gary,
I like the state of the state part of that post. I'd like to see more stuff like that. An address or assessment of trends in Texas by the SC would be nice to see at least yearly. I don't much care if it's posted here, on lsdga.com, or even if I have to sign up for an email group. It's good information for those of us that are involved locally but don't travel much.
Thanks.

do it by highest rated player from texas who has not qualified else where...pretty easy

you could do it by total $$$ winnings, that way out of state tournies and NTs count...

do it by highest rated player from texas who has not qualified else where...pretty easy



rating takes more than a year's worth of play into account and isn't the person who is playing the best right now.

solid idea. :D probably easier to track as well

you could do it by total $$$ winnings, that way out of state tournies and NTs count...



No because Vinnie would never play MPO. :D

yeah, it would have to be MPO Cash only, that would keep him from bagging too :D j/k V.

:D

yeah, yeah, sure, sure.

As I said, my goals are to promote tournaments across Texas, especially those in smaller markets. I don't care to promote anything outside of Texas. I won't choose based on ratings because you only need about one event a year to maintain a rating. I don't want any system where I am personally choosing a player, or my choice would be me the first year.

I believe that the best 4-5 players in Texas should qualify by the normal process, not the State Representative spot. I don;t want it going to the best player, but to the player that is the most involved in events all across Texas. They still have to do fairly well and play consistently, but the best should be getting in by the front door.

Yeah we should get in easy.............too bad you have to travel 10 hours to the nearest qualifier.

I'll see what I can find out what we need to do to get A qualifier back in Texas.