pathamill
May 21 2008, 06:06 PM
I'm a Teebird person but have heard people say the Eagle is more overstable.
So I took 2 teebirds and 2 eagles 1 star and 1 champ of each (the champ eagle was a white 10x blend) to the park to see the differance.
Sad to say but I found no huge differance.
Is it just me?

Boneman
May 21 2008, 06:39 PM
Eagle has more fade, but -1 high speed turn.
Teebird has less fade, but O high speed turn.
Not a huge difference, and a good teebird can glide pretty well.
It's all numbers ... your discs will vary depending on how broken in they are, what plastic, etc.
Personally, I like them both, and use what ever disc is flying better [broken in, or one I'm used to throwing] at the time.

poisonelf
May 21 2008, 06:46 PM
I've always looked at an eagle as more of an S turn disc (i used to use the eagle X for a head wind driver) and i can get on them a little more due to more fade at the end of the flight. Teebirds i usually put on a line and they hold it.

tkieffer
May 21 2008, 07:08 PM
I've found that they can be close depending on the run, the plastic and the amount of use or wear. The 9X KC Eagle wasn't much different than the 10X teebird, but the older SE teeebirds were much less stable and worked well into turnover discs. The 10X KC Eagles ('Tenagle') seemed to be a bit more stable new, but broke in to be about the same. The current Star Eagle ('Steagle') is more stable than the current Teebirds and is used by some of the older guys as a wind disc. It probably will stay that way longer as the star plastic is more durable. I had an old CE Eagle that was somewhat overstable, at least for my arm.

citysmasher
May 21 2008, 07:39 PM
I'm a Teebird person but have heard people say the Eagle is more overstable.
So I took 2 teebirds and 2 eagles 1 star and 1 champ of each (the champ eagle was a white 10x blend) to the park to see the differance.
Sad to say but I found no huge differance.
Is it just me?



The Star Eagle is actually more stable and is much better into a headwind. It also fades more relaibly, the Teebird is more straight.

The Star Eagle is like a longer, slower, Z Avenger when new and beats into a anhyser disc.

Both are great discs (unmatched really by the competition). I love the Teebird, but throw the Eagle a lot these days. If I had to choose, I would go with the Eagle.

mikeP
May 22 2008, 09:16 AM
The Teebird definetely has more glide. Also, I think that the Eagle needs more nose down angle to hold a straight line, where the Teebird can hold a straight line with the nose neutral or only slightly down.

cefire
May 22 2008, 10:47 AM
SE Teebirds were the TL mold so I think thats why you found those much less stable (diff. disc).

The main difference I see between the two discs is the low speed fade is much higher for the Eagle. I also find the teebird more forgiving than the Eagle for the reason discspeed brings up in the last post.

bazkitcase5
May 22 2008, 11:14 AM
I must have come across a bad mold for my star teebird, as it does not have hardly any glide and it is very very stable - its pretty much only good for water shots and going to the distance field, but yet I've heard so many good things about them...

I also fell in love with my first the first 2 star teerex's I owned, as they were stable, but predictable and eventually beat in very nicely - so now that their getting older, I thought I'd buy some back ups to start breaking them in for when the time came to replace the originals, but these new ones are stupid stable in comparison... they fly more like firebirds - I'm sure they'll beat in some, but not yet convinced they will be as good as the originals - all 4 of them are orange

boredatwork
May 22 2008, 02:09 PM
I have an orange Star Teebird (174) from the first run and it was way overstable with low glide just like a firebird. At first I hated it and set it aside. I started throwing it again on one unique hole that requires a short skip shot through a low ceiling. To my amazement after a year of breaking that sucker in it started to hold the most predictable straight lines with nice fade at the end and the plastic softened up so nicely. Now its my BABY! A workhorse driver that throws straight and glides nicely forehand and backhand and will always come back slightly at the end unless I make an error. Since then I have garnered several beefy Star Teebirds and use new ones mainly forehand until they break in. Best disc for my game that i've ever thrown... (i'm a 350' thrower for avg. golf shots)

tiltedhalo
May 22 2008, 06:03 PM
The old molds make a huge difference -- I've got a couple of the old CE Eagles around (both the E mold with the lip and the EL mold without) -- the EL mold CE Eagles fly very similar to CE TLs, but have a very flat "s" pattern to the flight and go a little longer, even though they finish on about the same line.

The old E molds can be stupid overstable -- I've got a couple that are like max-weight Firebird FXs -- super skippy and almost unusable on the course, compared to how I want them to throw.

They've made enough different Eagles across the plastics that I've gone out before with a bag of all Eagle drivers and a putter -- using the old CE Eagles for max stability and headwinds; the Champion Eagles for forehand shots and backhand hyzers; the CE ELs and the DX Eagles for straight shots; and beat up 9X KC Eagles for anhyzer and roller shots.

As far as variety, the Eagle mold has seen a wider range of stability and usability than any other disc mold I know of. You can play any course in the world and shoot a top-shelf round with enough Eagles in your bag.

Even saying all that, the Teebird is still my favorite driver ever produced -- it doesn't have as wide a range as the Eagle in terms of its variance across molds/plastics/runs, but Teebirds and Wizards are the most consistent and predictable discs in my bag -- every Teebird is a good Teebird (and every Wizard is a good Wizard).

citysmasher
May 25 2008, 08:34 PM
I have an orange Star Teebird (174) from the first run and it was way overstable with low glide just like a firebird.



Molding flash on the bottom of the disc... guaranteed.

Plankeye
May 25 2008, 08:45 PM
The old molds make a huge difference -- I've got a couple of the old CE Eagles around (both the E mold with the lip and the EL mold without) -- the EL mold CE Eagles fly very similar to CE TLs, but have a very flat "s" pattern to the flight and go a little longer, even though they finish on about the same line.

The old E molds can be stupid overstable -- I've got a couple that are like max-weight Firebird FXs -- super skippy and almost unusable on the course, compared to how I want them to throw.

They've made enough different Eagles across the plastics that I've gone out before with a bag of all Eagle drivers and a putter -- using the old CE Eagles for max stability and headwinds; the Champion Eagles for forehand shots and backhand hyzers; the CE ELs and the DX Eagles for straight shots; and beat up 9X KC Eagles for anhyzer and roller shots.

As far as variety, the Eagle mold has seen a wider range of stability and usability than any other disc mold I know of. You can play any course in the world and shoot a top-shelf round with enough Eagles in your bag.

Even saying all that, the Teebird is still my favorite driver ever produced -- it doesn't have as wide a range as the Eagle in terms of its variance across molds/plastics/runs, but Teebirds and Wizards are the most consistent and predictable discs in my bag -- every Teebird is a good Teebird (and every Wizard is a good Wizard).



I only owned/thrown 1 CE eagle and it was quite stable/overstable

dionarlyn
May 26 2008, 05:28 PM
The Thunderbird has a bit more glide and a bit less fade than the Eagle in my opinion. The best Eagle for me is the Clear Champion X mold, very stable, perfect for long hyzers and beats into a very strait predictable flyer. The Teebird either star or champion has wonderful glide and can be counted on to turn slightly but will come back unless its worn in, to which it finishes out smooth. The early run CE Eagles are sweet (stable) and the later EL runs make sweet rollers. Don't have any CE Teebirds :(