You are invited to play in what is consistently one of the top 50 tournaments in the world as the limited field of 72 pro and 72 am players will be treated to a disc golf vacation weekend at the 20th edition of the Scholl's Bicycle Center Pittsburgh Flying Disc Open.

The deal:

� $4000 (and rising) added to the pro payout
� Am player package worth $30
� Two World Class courses at Knob Hill and Moraine Lakeview to test your game
� PDGA A-tier and a Can-Am Series event
� Vibram Open qualifier
� First class special rate lodging 5 minutes from tournament HQ at the Comfort Inn Cranberry
� Merchandise and prizes powered by Innova, Discraft, DGA, Dick's Sporting Goods
� Cash bonuses for record setting Pro rounds
� CTPs and a Scholl's bike to be given away
� and the Dunham's Sports Players Picnic to conclude your weekend

The result: June 28-29 will be the best Pittsburgh disc golf tournament EVER.

All of the details are at www.pfds.org (http://www.pfds.org) and on the attached flyer.
You can pre-order lunch for Saturday and sign up online with Paypal or print out a registration form and snail-mail it in.

But do it now because the field WILL fill, and YOU want to be there at the end hoisting the trophy, the bike, the Fairground Market chicken dinner, watermelon or whatever you like to hoist after playing some great disc golf with the greatest players and people on the PDGA tour.

See you in Pittsburgh June 28-29th.

J. Gary Dropcho
Dave Olcott
SBCPFDS Co-directors

i have heard great things about the event and the courses are some of the best... this however, is for jerry,...
:p :D
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these are the super-color buzzz for sale as fundraisers for HHO '08- $22 postage paid or $20 if you catch me in person. pm me for address/info.

2 years ago the t-shirt was sleeveless.
Last year the t-shirt was neon green.

What can they top it with this year?

thats hillarious Perica.

Looking to be a great event. Check out the registered players here http://pfdo08.pfds.org/Registered.htm

We raised another $660 today for the pro purse with a fund raising event at Knob Hill today. You can thank Jerry Gotcher for that. Looks like we should be over $5000 added cash by the time the event rolls around in a few weeks. Don't miss the 20th anniversary PFDO.

Lots of money, world class courses, good clean fun...What could be better!!!

Alright, people I've spoken to are saying great things about the courses and the tourney, so I'm going to try to make it up from Northern VA. It should be just under five hours.

Before planning a trip, I'd love to find a local to crash with and who can show off the courses. My hope is to head up early, early on Friday morning, play both courses during the day, and then crash with someone convenient to the tourney for Friday and Saturday nights.

I'd gladly say "thanks for lodging" by bringing along some extra discs and/or high quality microbrews. Just let me know what you throw/drink.

My preference would be a place where anything of questionable legality is not happening where I will see it/know about it. I don't have a problem with people doing what they want, but if I can help it, I'd rather not be eyewitness to anything that should stay off-record.

So if anyone has a good place to crash -- floor is fine -- I'll bring along my own sleeping bag, etc... I know I could camp or get a hotel, but one of my favorite parts of visiting new tourneys, courses and cities is getting to know some of the disc golfers there, and no better way to do that than a couple of late nights with great hosts.

Thanks in advance for your hospitality. Oh, and for whatever it's worth, I'm turning 30 this month, would be playing Advanced, and work for a non-profit doing work with children's hospitals across the country (yes, Children's Hospital of Pittsburgh is one of our members -- I may try to drop in there while I'm up that way).

I would like to help you but, I live about a 1 1/2 hours from Knob Hill. These courses are definitely worth the trip so make the trip anyways.

$4,000 ADDED - What else do I have to say!!!

You forgot the "plus" symbol thingy, KP.... :D

[b]$4000+ added cash![/i]

I'd give you a place to crash, but I just moved far away from the courses...........but I have some friends in Slippery Rock that I might be staying with. If so, I am sure that there is room for you. I'll send you a PM later this week.

It would be safe to say that the added cash is right near, if not already over, 5 g's..... yes that $5,000..... where is everybody at? TWO SUPERB COURSES and great people. 20th anniversary. Come to Pittsburgh and join us yinzers. You'll be sorry if you miss this one.

Work Day At Moraine (http://www.pdga.com/msgboard/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=839768&an=0&page=0#Post8 39768)

Played Tuesday doubles at Knob Hill last night and I am pleased to report significant progress on improvements to the course. J Gary Dropcho spent Monday working with township employees......clearing rough, cutting wider fairways and backfilling/leveling the blue tees. Marshall Township paid for a set of Fly 18 pads and the word is those items arrived yesterday. All the tees are marked for leveling/grading and we noticed holes 1, 2 and 10 have already been completed. Park employees will continue the prep work this week and the pads will be installed next week.

You don't want to miss this one, folks......it's the 20th Anniversary for the Pittsburgh Flying Disc Open.....we've got great player packages for the ams and tons of added cash for the pros.....catered dinner for the players Sunday afternoon.... two world class courses, Knob Hill and Moraine State Park. This is also going to be J Gary's last event as TD and I must say it looks like he's going out in style...... :cool:

Wow! Knob Hill and Moraine State Park have never looked better! Get in while you still can.....this 20th anniversary event is gonna be big! As of this morning, 33 spots left in the pro field....18 spots left in the ams....

No Saturday registration, folks. Pay online this week or pay in person at Knob Hill Park on Friday, noon-6:00 pm-ish.

Courses are looking great better than ever........killer player packs for the amateurs and over $4,000.00 added cash to the pro payout. This event is also a qualifier for the Vibram Open.

Sign up now because this 20th Anniversary event will fill.... :cool:

Angela and I are attending and we are wondering if anyone would be willing to put us up for the weekend?

played Moraine monthly yesterday. The course looks AWESOME. I cant wait for this weekend.

Wow.....not many spots left.

Pre-registered player list (http://pfdo08.pfds.org/Registered.htm)

When and where is check in going to be on Friday? I remember last year it was at Knob Hill but I am not sure when we will be getting into town and would like to know how late check in will stay open.

From the mail box of Jerry Gotcher...
He writes, "Friday Registration at Knob Hill will be Noon to 7pm."

Right Now there is 29 Pro spots available so I think you should be safe to register at some point on Friday.

Check in on Friday for the SBCPFDO will be at Knob Hill from noon until 7 pm.

No Saturday Registration

As of this morning, we're down to twenty-something spots left in the professional field and only two spots available on the amateur side. I would register online to get in on this gig....it's gonna be a good one! :cool:

NO SATURDAY REGISTRATION

How's the weather looking?

Yesterday they were forecasting a 40% chance of scattered showers/thunderstorms for the weekend. Hopefully, it will all pass us by....

How 'bout that Grandmasters division, Sharky? :cool:

on and off Sharkster. We are amidst a disturbance that could create on/off storms all weekend. The news has said it will not rain all weekend, some will see no rain at all, but the potential for thunderstorms is definitely there, especially in the humid afternoon hours.

dont let that keep you away. This is gonna be one awesome tourney!

so yeah, what the Goocher said. :D

Our local club (PFDS) had a very productive workday this past weekend.....clearing lots of debris and undergrowth, installing a disc golf bulletin board, etc. Tuesday morning I emailed State Park managers with a list of things to do such as mow the course again (they did late last week), chainsaw select trees we had marked, clear brush/rough in areas, etc.

Yesterday I played an early evening round with Schultz, Olsen and Tschiggfrie.......and most of the things on the park's to-do list were done! The course looks really nice! (Knob Hill is looking pretty good, too) :cool:

Yesterday I played an early evening round with Schultz, Olsen and Tschiggfrie.......



Who Won???

Got all of the player packs done last night. Nikko called and is on a bus from St. Louis to come and play. Got lots of calls yesterday of people coming, so if you are planning on playing I would register today.

41 hours until Players Meeting...Are You Signed Up???

I believe the AMS are full now and there are about 25 pro spots left. Just had a bunch more sign up tonight. Check the updated registration to see the current players.

24 hrs til I'm in the Subaru with the Indianaites rollin' to Knob. WOOT WOOT!!!

Team Yinzer ready to rep it!

Wow.....nice field of players, including many high-rated competitors who've never played in the 'burgh before.
Gateway is definitely representin' with several of their team players in town ready to play...... :)

Lot's-O-cash & prizes to be won at this 20th Anniversary event!

The finishing touches were taken care of today and the courses are looking great. Lots of players coming in and playing the courses today. Heard lots of great compliments and everyone seems to be having a blast. This has already been so much fun this year and the golf hasn't even started. 15 pro Grandmasters signed up and quite a few great golfers in that division. It's gonna be fun. I will try to at least update the leader scores tomorrow evening. Pros at Moraine tomorrow and the Ams are ay Knob Hill.

Schultz and Nikko tied the course record the first round with a pair of 57's from the Gold tees at Moraine. Barry carded a 58 the second round while Nikko scored a 67 I believe. Mela is leading the Pro Masters and Gobrecht is winning the Grandmasters. Johnny Sias aced hole 5 and someone else aced hole 7. Scores shoule be posted tonight. Also Angela is 3 strokes ahead of 10+ time PFDO winner Elaine King going into the round at Knob Hill. Should be interesting as Elaine has played the PFDO at Knob Hill every year since 1994.

Any more results?

scores are up. Ratings for the second round are wrong for sure as oif now, but the scores are all correct.

Yes....I also noticed the Rd 2 ratings were incorrect. I'm guessing they uploaded the Rd 2 scores against a par 54 layout.....should be a par 66.

Good shootin' Deitzel.....you'd be in good position if you were in the old men's division. :D

Yes....I also noticed the Rd 2 ratings were incorrect. I'm guessing they uploaded the Rd 2 scores against a par 54 layout.....should be a par 66.

Good shootin' Deitzel.....you'd be in good position if you were in the old men's division. :D


From the looks of it the problem is actually that they just didn't set up the layouts for the divisions, and they set the lower divisions as having played the same layouts as the higher ones.

sooooo, what were the t-shirts like this year?

Perhaps the ratings have since been fixed, but they look fine to me.

<u>For both Round 1 and 2, they are:</u>

Open: Moraine Gold Tees to Tournament Pins, par 66
Open Women: Moraine Blue Tees to Tournament Pins, par 66
Masters: Moraine Gold Tees to Tournament Pins, par 66
Grandmasters: Moraine Blue Tees to Tournament Pins, par 66
Advanced: Knob Hill White Tees to Tournament Pins, par 60
Advanced Masters: Knob Hill White Tees to Tournament Pins, par 60
Intermediate: Knob Hill White Tees to Tournament Pins, par 60

I tweaked it this morning guessing they played the same in R2 as R1.

whats the scoop any Gateway guys rundown the old veteran?

I tweaked it this morning guessing they played the same in R2 as R1.



Chuck, the layouts played for each divisions are here: http://www.pfds.org/PFDO2008Flyerpre.pdf

Looks like they need to set the round 3 and Finals layouts in POTSS.

Barry won. Mela Masters and Gobrecht grandmasters. Elaine pulled ahead by 1 this morning, but Angela pulled off the win in the last round. Local Tim Wright had the hot final round of 50, while the next best rounds were 52 by myself, Barry, and 2 or 3 others.

Scores will be up late late tonight or early tomorrow.

cool and thanks.

Wow.....

Great tournament. Fantastic payout. If you weren't here, you missed out... :D

How was the weather?

The weather worked out quite well for folks that did not play the finals. :D
Day 1, a big storm hit after the golf.
Day 2, early maybe a few drops then just cloudy, after round 1 and just before the finals started some NASTY weather moved in quickly and I don't mind telling you that standing around up on that hill in the pavillion at knob hill everyone was really nervous, the clouds were roiling, folks were saying "I see rotation" , luckily no tornadoes hit us and the area was just hit with a good old rain storm. I drove home at that point and later heard from a buddy that the final round was played in the rain and included one 1/2 hour delay during the round. I did get a few pics of the weather moving in and will post them when I get a chance, probably in a few days as my internet is dead at home. BTW great tournament!!!

I won the Bike!!!

^^^ YYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH HHHHHH !!!

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Who won??? scores are not posted yeTT

Barry won. Mela Masters and Gobrecht grandmasters. Elaine pulled ahead by 1 this morning, but Angela pulled off the win in the last round. Local Tim Wright had the hot final round of 50, while the next best rounds were 52 by myself, Barry, and 2 or 3 others.

Scores will be up late late tonight or early tomorrow.

For those who are patiently waiting, I'm sure the scores will be posted later today. After helping to pack/clean up the pavilion, I left Knob Hill at nearly 9:45 pm and both TDs were still there. Hopefully, J Gary and Dave got some much needed rest after running the event.....they did a fine job. :D

nice trophy, is that glass?

yeah Matt that trophy is glass. A local PFDSer that works with glass threw that gem together.
His name is Rex Trimm.
Rex has long flowing locks of hair that drive the ladies crazy.
Rex is a pretty good artist too, but moreso a ladies man.
;)

sooooo, what were the t-shirts like this year?



actually, they were kinda sweet. When a pic gets posted with someone wearing the shirt I'll add it in this post.

I'm :( because I missed this. One of my favorite events, on one of my favorite courses.

those trophies look sweet.

His name is Rex TTrimm.
Rex has long flowing locks of hair that drive the ladies crazy.
Rex is a pretty good artist too, but moreso a ladies man.
;)


well done R-TTrim

Hey did Barry win past events at this place? Because I seen glass blown baskets at his house before. They look sweet like this one does.

Awesome trophy

His name is Rex TTrimm.
Rex has long flowing locks of hair that drive the ladies crazy.
Rex is a pretty good artist too, but moreso a ladies man.
;)


well done R-TTrim



That's "King" TTrimm.

I was waiting for your response... breathe unbaited.

Hey did Barry win past events at this place? Because I seen glass blown baskets at his house before. They look sweet like this one does.

Awesome trophy



this is the 1st time the PFDO has given out a glass trophy. Barry has been here before... not sure when or if he won. There is a list of past winners in the program, maybe I'll post that when I get home later.

Very hot golf by Barry and Nikko, Angela and Elaine, Joey and No Spin, Jay and Johnny.

Congrats to all the winners, kudos to all the players, and many many thanks to all the PFDS staff who put on the best Pittsburgh Flying Disc Open EVER!

JGD

Hey, what's up? (http://www.sharkysshots.com/albums/userpics/10002/Picture%20012.jpg) Oh, scarey stuff! (http://www.sharkysshots.com/albums/userpics/10002/Picture%20010.jpg)

Short slide show. (http://www.sharkysshots.com/displayimage.php?album=128&amp;pid=6443&amp;slideshow=5000 )

Barry has been here before... not sure when or if he won.



Schultz was here in 2005 (http://pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=4671) when the PFDO was a pro-only event. Matt Orum won open that year.

It's unusual looking at the Open Women and GMs, where only two of them shot better in the afternoon on the same layout at Moraine which boosted the SSA a full 2 shots. Fatigue factor maybe playing two 60 SSA courses in a day? Open and Masters had almost identical SSAs on the same longer layout there so I'm guessing the wind wasn't much different in the afternoon?

Thanks to the Pitt crew for their work and running a smooth event! Thanks for dinner after the last round. As for the Knobb Hill on Sunday, it rained hard all day, it was windy at times, and the course was a mess from all the rain. There were streams of water all over the place, very muddy, people were falling down, and not a dry spot anywhere.

Hey, what's up? (http://www.sharkysshots.com/albums/userpics/10002/Picture%20012.jpg)



awesome shot Sharky!

It's unusual looking at the Open Women and GMs, where only two of them shot better in the afternoon on the same layout at Moraine which boosted the SSA a full 2 shots. Fatigue factor maybe playing two 60 SSA courses in a day? Open and Masters had almost identical SSAs on the same longer layout there so I'm guessing the wind wasn't much different in the afternoon?



The divisions DID NOT play the same layouts, which was covered in the event flyer and can also be verified in POTSS.

Open and Masters played Gold tees at Moraine both round 1 and 2.
Pro Women and Grandmasters played Blue tees at Moraine both round 1 and 2.

The SSA for the Gold course stayed consistent for the Open &amp; Masters at 65.4 and 65.7 for the two rounds.

The SSA for the Blue course increased for the Open Women &amp; Grandmasters from 60.1 to 61.9 for these competitors likely due to the fatigue factor of playing two 60+ SSA rounds in a day, as you surmised.

It's unusual looking at the Open Women and GMs, where only two of them shot better in the afternoon on the same layout at Moraine which boosted the SSA a full 2 shots. Fatigue factor maybe playing two 60 SSA courses in a day? Open and Masters had almost identical SSAs on the same longer layout there so I'm guessing the wind wasn't much different in the afternoon?



The wind was not much different between the morning and afternoon rounds, however, fatigue is often a factor for many players on the par 66 course.

(I did say the Open and Masters played a longer layout)

R1 &amp; R2 scores will be combined for the official ratings anyway so both rounds for each of those groups will end up with the same rating for the same score.

As for the Knobb Hill on Sunday, it rained hard all day, it was windy at times, and the course was a mess from all the rain. There were streams of water all over the place, very muddy, people were falling down, and not a dry spot anywhere.



You got that right! I've lived here for almost 8 years and I have never seen Knob Hill that muddy and wet! I must say I was quite impressed with the Fly pads overall. I thought that they might be slippery when wet or muddy, but they had pretty good grip in those conditions. I did hear a couple of negative comments regarding the installation of some of the Fly pads over grass and tree roots. Last week, Marshall Township began building gravel foundations for the Fly pads, but they would have only completed 6-7 pads prior to the event. Those who played probably noticed the nice level pads on holes 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8 and 10. J Gary decided to install the remaining Fly pads directly on top of the grass so we would have pads on all 18 holes during the tournament. Now that the event is over, those pads will be removed and Marshall Township will build the proper foundations for reinstallation.

been playing Knob for 14 years. Haven't seen the course that wet ever!!!! We had rain all week long, along with the storm Saturday night and Sunday. I'm suprised the bridge on 15 didn't wash away.


Chuck, you gonna get the ratings up for the 4th round? Everyone played short tees at Knob.

The PDGA Online Tournament Scoring System (POTSS) doesn't do any ratings calcs on scores in the Finals column even if 18 holes. These will come after the official ratings calculations.

Chrissy, you are so right. That was no CRICK @ Knob... that was more like the 3 Rivers!

if Chris Hoeg waded out into 15's water he would have went chin deep!

been playing Knob for 14 years. Haven't seen the course that wet ever!!!! We had rain all week long, along with the storm Saturday night and Sunday. I'm suprised the bridge on 15 didn't wash away.



I think the time has come to examine whether Knob Hill should be used for future Pittsburgh Flying Disc Open tournaments. Rain or no rain, the drainage issues have been ongoing since the beginning and not getting any better - it was just as bad the last time I played Knob as it was the first time I played the course - Sunday October 26th, 1997! With the world class Deer Lakes Park course now coming into its own, I think serious thought should be given into replacing Knob with Deer Lakes for the 2009 PFDO.

http://www.glassartists.org/Gal33464_The_PFDO_Trophy.asp

I was so honored to get to be involved in this event. Wish I had played better, but glad my glass skills worked out.

Thanks to J Gary for an awesome club, courses and great times.

The next trophies are gonna be way off the hook.