The 2008 Waco Charity Open is on! Mark your calendars for June 7-8, 2008!

There were some concerns that it would not be able to happen this year because of construction, but Joey Harrell has given the go ahead. This long-running event is one of my personal favorites and I'm more than thrilled to help keep it going. MaceMan Disc Golf will provide pick-your-own plastic and much more :). This will be event #11 of the North Texas Series, helping qualify players for the Z-Boaz skins match at the end of the season. The entire field will be capped at 180 players, with a minimum of 10 spots held for Open Pro. Once we get close to filling, two flights of 90 will be established with preference given to the Pro and Advanced divisions. Waco has seen as many as 236 players in one event during Mr. Himings stay in the states, so a 180 cap is likely to fill very quickly. Get signed up today at http://www.titleDISC.com/ !

All divisions will play two rounds at each course. Advanced and Open divisions will play the longs. Intermediate and Rec will play the shorts. Come out and test your game against this mix of courses that definitely has something for everyone :).

Prices:
All Pro: $60
All Advanced: $50
All Intermediate: $40
All Recreational: $30

I strongly encourage everyone to pre-register for this one via titleDISC.com, or in person at either of the next two upcoming North Texas Series events. Click Here (http://www.titledisc.com/eventDisplay.php?eventid=338) for a direct link to the online pre-registration page. Snail-mail registration isn't quite as reliable but can be sent to:

Joshua Dann
titleDISC
3000 Blake St.
Corinth, TX 76210

Include the following information (a form will be available soon):
Name (First and Last)
PDGA Number
Division
Telephone number
and of course, the entry fee in the form of a check or money order.

All snail-mail entries *must* be postmarked by Monday, June 2nd or they will be refused. In the event that a snail-mail entry arrives after the flight for that division is full, I will contact the player and offer a refund or a spot in a higher division, if one is available. If (in that situation) no spots are available or the player does not qualify for any of those spots, the entry will be refunded.

See you all in Waco!

FYI - The sanctioning for this event has been approved and paid for. It should be up on the Tour schedule by early next week.

So who is running it? Is it Mace or is he just doing the payout?

I am the TD on record, but this will be a team effort. Mace obviously has the years of experience and know-how that it takes to run a great tournament. Joey Harrell (who ran this event for *years*) has been in contact with the City of Waco to be sure that everything will run smoothly. I have the technology and willingness to promote the event and make sure that all scores and PDGA fees are turned in on time. Everybody contributes, everybody wins :)

So Mace will give the Speech and handle the payout? :D

pretty much :)

don't forget about Mace's NTS rolling acepot. If it doesn't get hit @ Rockwall the week before, it should be pretty sizeable by the time Waco comes around

pretty much :)

don't forget about Mace's NTS rolling acepot. If it doesn't get hit @ Rockwall the week before, it should be pretty sizeable by the time Waco comes around



no way, cus im gonna hit it at Zboaz tomorrow :D

No aces at A-Z, so the acepot rolls to Rockwall. There are definitely some ace-able holes out there, but if it survives to Waco it should make Cameron West interesting :).

what is the rolling ace pot currently at?

I can't wait for this event! I hope the turnout is good.

It was hit in Athens by the legendary Jerry Power so it started fresh at A-Z. I believe about $150 was added at A-Z and there's already another $105 added from Rockwall pre-registration. Add in the rest of the field who has yet to register and it should get up close to $500 total before counting any of the Waco players. A good turnout at Waco could add another $500 easily

5 pre-registered already with over three weeks to go. Let's get this thing ramped up!

Rockwall is full, but Waco still has plenty of room! This long-running event *will* continue this year.

Set right in between North and South Texas, players from both regions can meet up and compete on a couple of great, challenging courses! Again, I'll reiterate: I personally guarantee that the tournament data will be submitted on time with payment to the PDGA, so everyone will get their ratings when they're supposed to :)

If anyone is interested in sponsoring the Waco event, please contact me or Brian Mace for more info. Cash sponsorships are currently the only offered option, but Brian may decide to change that.

$100 per sponsored hole or $150 for one hole per course.

also, I just found out that I will be able to play this year! With Brian handling all the TD duties, I don't need to "mind the store" and since it's a B-tier I can officiate while playing as long as there is another official in another division, on the other course :). I think we'll have that covered so hopefully I'll be adding my name to the pre-reg list soon!

If anyone wants to carpool or camp or whatever from DFW, hit me up.

I'm gonna play, :cool:love those 2 courses.

Any FPO's making the trip?

I don't think that Edman & I are coming (maybe) - not sure about the other ladies. Maybe the quickie this weekend @ Twin Parks, then SOLO in Goeorgetown June 15th & Kyle the 28th.

Waco is gonna be awesome... and maybe the last chance for tournament play on the current layouts, depending on what happens w/ the construction. It would be great to have more FPOs turnout! Anyone wanting to help promote the event can download a flyer here:

http://www.titledisc.com/files/WCO-flyer3.pdf

post some!

I'm workin' it, but with trips to Massachusetts, Michigan, Arkansas & Alabama in a 9 week period, some of the tried & true Texas events will have to be a no go. Waco has been a long time family favorite, & I highly reccomend it, I just don't think I can pull it off this year. Will promote with all the Double R peeps & see about pumping it up!!

I know who is doing some of the park work.... :)

Thanks to Lance Burns, Don "Magoo" McGregor, Rockin' Jon, and Keith Guest for cleaning-up the back-9 on the bEast. (sorry if I missed anyone) Note: These guys are immune to poison ivy unlike the rest of us. Thanks, guys!

immune to poison ivy!! that is so not fair :mad::D

I'm glad to see the support coming from the local crowd. Waco has always had a strong DG community and it really shows! If there's anything you guys need from me before next weekend, please don't hesitate to ask. I'll try to respond more quickly than I have been :(

9 days till the Waco Charity Open!

26 players pre-registered so far. Keep em coming!

Someone at DiscNation today said these courses may be pulled. I played them on Memorial Day. Does anyone know if this rumor is true? So sad if it is.

No, they will not be pulled.

there is some construction that will start soon, but not before the tournament :)

titleDISC is back up and running after a few hours of technical difficulty. people can start signing up again!

They won't be pulled, but they will be redesigned post-construction.

During the construction, the idea is to have 9 holes on each side of the river available for casual play.

A branch of Kat's company is handling some of the design work. The city is planning on keeping the full courses, but in new configurations to accomodate some of the changes. She only knows that the Redwood Shelter area is getting a big redesign, but no specifics.

so what you're saying is that this weekend's tournament is likely our last chance for tournament play on the current course configurations? I guess that makes it even bigger than normal :D

get signed up today! I seriously doubt that there will be enough spots for everyone who plans on waiting until the last minute. If you want to guarantee your spot, get it very soon. The tournament we just got done with this weekend only had room for 100 people but I think there were over 200 interested in playing. The ones that waited too long missed out on all the fun...

5 days left! :)

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Mace has ordered a ton of fresh merch for this event! It's looking like a great turnout in all divisions!

51 players signed up so far, with 4 days left.

Advanced, Intermediate and Rec will be limited to 40 players each. That means 27 spots left in Advanced, 26 in Intermediate, and 35 in Rec. Those numbers could get much smaller very quickly.

Don't put it off, you may be sorely disappointed.

I hope I am not dissapointed either way. I will be the first to call a horse by its color

I hope I am not dissapointed either way. I will be the first to call a horse by its color




No you would be the 2nd Vinnie. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

send some sponsors my way and the chances for disappointment will get much smaller :)

sponsors are a beautiful thing. titleDISC is already in, who's going to join me?

I will bring you/Waco sponsors.......Mace will have to come up with his own sponsors. Kleanex will not be a sponsor So there will be no crying

send some sponsors my way and the chances for disappointment will get much smaller :)

sponsors are a beautiful thing. titleDISC is already in, who's going to join me?



I'll bring you some discs.

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that works. as long as they're good ones, I'll make CTP prizes out of them.

that works. as long as they're good ones, I'll make CTP prizes out of them.




I am getting in some new stuff from Discraft today so they should be good. :D

I will bring you/Waco sponsors.......Mace will have to come up with his own sponsors. Kleanex will not be a sponsor So there will be no crying


I will guarantee that all sponsorship money and merch goes back into the tournament. I will also do my derndest to leave the crying at home :D

that works. as long as they're good ones, I'll make CTP prizes out of them.




I am getting in some new stuff from Discraft today so they should be good. :D


Discraft makes good ones? :cool::D

seriously though... if there are any impacts in there I might keep them for myself :eek: /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

that works. as long as they're good ones, I'll make CTP prizes out of them.




I am getting in some new stuff from Discraft today so they should be good. :D


Discraft makes good ones? :cool::D

seriously though... if there are any impacts in there I might keep them for myself :eek: /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif




Don't think I am getting anymore of those but I may have one in my 1st stack I got from them.


Anyone know how the courses are looking? Also is this 3 or 4 rounds? If 4 I assume Pro/ADV will play the east twice.

all divisions will be playing each course twice - one round per course, per day. Adv. and Pro Men divisions will play the longs on the old course at least one round. Intermediate and Rec will play the shorts. Everyone plays from the same tees on the East course.

If we get over 50 in the Adv/Pro pool, Sunday's round on the old course will play from the shorts to get people on the road a bit quicker. If we don't fill, pools will be balanced by shifting the smaller divisions around.

all divisions will be playing each course twice - one round per course, per day. Adv. and Pro Men divisions will play the longs on the old course at least one round. Intermediate and Rec will play the shorts. Everyone plays from the same tees on the East course.

If we get over 50 in the Adv/Pro pool, Sunday's round on the old course will play from the shorts to get people on the road a bit quicker. If we don't fill, pools will be balanced by shifting the smaller divisions around.




There are short tees? :confused:

on the old (west) course, yes. Holes 10, 11, 15, and 16 (am I forgetting one or two?) have long tees and almost every hole on the back 9 has a long pin placement. How far we stretch it out has a lot to do with how big the adv/pro pool is.

edit: I'm also thinking about a temp. long box on a couple of the easier holes like #6 and #7.

on the old (west) course, yes. Holes 10, 11, 15, and 16 (am I forgetting one or two?) have long tees and almost every hole on the back 9 has a long pin placement. How far we stretch it out has a lot to do with how big the adv/pro pool is.



Ok that makes sense because I can only remember a few holes that had two sets. Because it is only 4 holes I doubt playing the shorts would cut the round by more than 15 min. You should also remember that the Pros will probably play the West an hour fater than the Ams will play the east.

add in the longer pin placements and a couple of temp long teeboxes... I might be able to make the pro round last as long as the am one ;). We'll see, I guess. Most holes are going to be what you remember, I just don't want it to be toooo easy :D

add in the longer pin placements and a couple of temp long teeboxes... I might be able to make the pro round last as long as the am one ;). We'll see, I guess. Most holes are going to be what you remember, I just don't want it to be toooo easy :D




I play like crap on the OG so don't worry about hearing that from me. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

By the way, there were no aces at A-Z or this past weekend at Rockwall, so the ace pot *starts* at $510, before counting up all the players who have preregistered and entered the acepot.

My opinion is since the course will change soon, it would be nice to play the tournament in original tee positions (6-7) while we can. There are longer positions for baskets like 17 and 18.

that's a good point. It may be best to leave 6-7 as they are, I was just trying to come up with a way to challenge the pros a little more :)

you just got done telling me to remember how much faster the open pool will play in Waco :D




They will play the West faster than the Ams will play the east.


moving this over to the Waco thread to let Brice have his thread back :).

Matt, get signed up dude! JD just called and said he is having a hard time justifying the second weekend in a row to his wife... but if a few more Open-types sign up it will be easier to convince her that it's worth the trip :). I know you pros are kinda slow when it comes to playing and signing up for tournaments, but the more people we get on that pre-reg list, the more will decide to make it to the tournament. Let's make it happen!

Also, if anyone can raise help raise some cash sponsorship, please feel free. I'm not in Waco to hit up the local businesses but the DG scene down there is a good one and I know we all want to see this remain a successful event. Every bit helps!

There is already a guaranteed $250 added to the pro purse. CFR sales and cash sponsorships will make this number go up!

BTW - I just found out that we will have 50 CFR Destryers with this year's Waco Charity Open stamp. Anyone who wants one can send $25 to [email protected] along with a requested weight range and I will set one aside. I will also be adding this as an option for titleDISC registrations.

you just got done telling me to remember how much faster the open pool will play in Waco :D




They will play the West faster than the Ams will play the east.


moving this over to the Waco thread to let Brice have his thread back :).

Matt, get signed up dude! JD just called and said he is having a hard time justifying the second weekend in a row to his wife... but if a few more Open-types sign up it will be easier to convince her that it's worth the trip :). I know you pros are kinda slow when it comes to playing and signing up for tournaments, but the more people we get on that pre-reg list, the more will decide to make it to the tournament. Let's make it happen!

Also, if anyone can raise help raise some cash sponsorship, please feel free. I'm not in Waco to hit up the local businesses but the DG scene down there is a good one and I know we all want to see this remain a successful event. Every bit helps!

There is already a guaranteed $250 added to the pro purse. CFR sales and cash sponsorships will make this number go up!

BTW - I just found out that we will have 50 CFR Destryers with this year's Waco Charity Open stamp. Anyone who wants one can send $25 to [email protected] along with a requested weight range and I will set one aside. I will also be adding this as an option for titleDISC registrations.




Why would I do that? I don't want him taking all my money. :D


Actually it isn't looking good unless I get my car fixed or can get to Houston.

where's everyone staying? is there a hotel deal around the parks?

where's everyone staying? is there a hotel deal around the parks?



anybody know if you can camp at windway er... woodway?

dont know if you can camp there or not but I heard that the cops were Nazis around that area.

I should be there Joe. ;)

where's everyone staying? is there a hotel deal around the parks?


victorian inn

There isn't a hotel deal set up, but there are plenty of hotels in the area with available rooms. Camping is usually available at Woodway.

I may have room in the truck and hotel room for someone coming down from DFW. I'll be leaving Friday at around 3:30pm from Arlington

Overnight camping at Woodway is not permitted.

If you follow the road that goes by the beast west about 3-4 miles there is a state park on the lake that permits overnight camping. They have showers and bathrooms as well.

thats some good online sign up!!!
This looks good for all involved in running the event.

I want it to be good for those involved in playing the event, too :)

so no camping @ woodway but cfles knows a place. I'll be staying at the super 8.

I want it to be good for those involved in playing the event, too


Thats a given or expected may be a better word!

It's official, I'm gonna be there. I'll be unofficially representing Team Disqualified and be dedicating each round to Ray, Donovan, Dan, and Clay.

TD, I also left a special note for you.

HeY bAldgUY!!!! nIce jOb In :). . . .WOUld lOVe TO MAke THIs One . . MY sIsTer Is grAdUATIng HIgH scHOOl. . . .gOT TO be THere. . . . . .sO I cAnT WHIp All YOU TUrd cHUnkers Arses . . . . TrY And HAVe fUn WITHOUT Me :) reVerend MAce !!!! YOU rOck !!!!

will the players meeting be held on the west side ? Hey I'm current :)

Mace said he has the redwood pavilion (west side) reserved. If that's not the case I'll let everyone know. I accidentally left my phone at home today so if I don't answer it's not you, it's me :)

I accidentally left my phone at home today so if I don't answer it's not you, it's me :)



Hello???

Jun 6 Today
Windy...isolated thunderstorms this morning, then partly cloudy during the afternoon hours. High 93F. Winds SSE at 20 to 30 mph. Chance of rain 30%.

Jun 6 Tonight
Partly cloudy skies with gusty winds. Low around 75F. Winds SSE at 20 to 30 mph.

Jun 7 Tomorrow
Partly cloudy skies with gusty winds. High 89F. Winds SSE at 20 to 30 mph.

Jun 7 Tomorrow night
Partly to mostly cloudy. Low near 75F. Winds S at 15 to 25 mph.

Jun 8 Sunday
Isolated thunderstorms. Highs in the upper 80s and lows in the mid 70s.

Hey big J see ya in the morning . No refund this time :D:o

SCORES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

yes, scores are posted :)

last year's champ JD Ramirez made up some serious ground in round #2 to bring himself back within one stroke of the lead. Damian Power moves up to Open for the first time and is tied for he lead!

104 players, 104 degree heat index . more to come!

super 8 motel me do yo nail

what time do the rounds start tomorrow?

3 way tie for 1st,
3 players 1 stroke back.
9 players within 3 strokes of the lead.

Should be interesting tomorrow.

3 way tie for 1st,
3 players 1 stroke back.
9 players within 3 strokes of the lead.

Should be interesting tomorrow.




Someone better shoot under on the Beast! /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Scores??????????????????

well what happned??

scores??


please thanks

I beat you by at least 30 seconds!!!!!!! :D:D

doh !! **** viagra :o

How did you know what I was typing on my keyboard with?

SCORES???????

Who won open,advance????

Open
1-mike olse
2-chris albert
3-joel kelly
4-vinnie miller

Advanced
1-Jack Tabor

Open
1-mike olse
2-chris albert
3-joel kelly
4-vinnie miller

Advanced
1-Jack Tabor



Please tell me someone at least shot even on the beast. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

I will get scores posted in a bit... calm down folks, I just got home :)

scores are posted!

Thanks again Mace, Josh, et al for keeping the Waco Charity Open alive. ...had a great time.

Open
1-mike olse
2-chris albert
3-joel kelly
4-vinnie miller

Advanced
1-Jack Tabor



Way to throw, Turbo. The P90 must be working.

Open
1-mike olse
2-chris albert
3-joel kelly
4-vinnie miller




Headline: "AUSTIN OWNS WACO: Olse squeezes out Turdo and slaps the old guys"

Congrats to the Austin folks (especially Chris.....great job) and Ron for his continued domination at Waco.

WAY TO GO TAOR!!!!!!!! Just goes to show you, 40 is the new 18 and you can never underestimate the ole farts! :cool:

Way to go Francis! Represent Abilene!!

Also representing Abilene: Alan Rogers hit the $925 acepot on Hole #8, Old Cameron

To be fair, I warmed it up for him by hitting chains on that hole about 30 minutes prior :D.

Alan was very generous with his windfall. He bought $100 worth of discs and put $50 back into the acepot for the final! What a guy :). Grats again, Alan.

Thanks James and Lou, it was a great tournament for me, and yes Austin did represent. Now if I could could just lock in those 30 footers I might give Olse a better challenge. See y'all at McClain.

WOW! Thats great to know! Alan and Francis both have done a lot to help out Abilene disc golf. Alan specifically kept things going in the lean years. He looked on the edge of burnout when I started getting involved about 4 years ago. Francis wasnt event playing back then and now shes a real competative advanced player...and helps out behind the scenes as well. Im happy for both of them :D

He told me that the ace paid for his and Francis' entries into the Wild Hair. I should have just taken his money then and registered them via titleDISC :)

I played one round this weekend with Alan. I can honestly say that the ace money went to one of the nicest guys on the course and I was happy to write him that fat check!

Just curious: what was the best score shot on The Beast? It's one of my favorite courses and I try to play it every time I'm back in TX -- always curious how bad it eats folks up.

My best so far has been a 52 in casual play, and that was in the wind with a roll-away circle four on the first short pond hole (usually a pretty easy deuce). Of course, that was probably the best round of my life (on any course). I think my second-best score there was a 57, so there is a long way between good and best out there. I'm usually thrilled with anything in the 50s, and anything single-digits over par still feels pretty good.

Congrats to the winners -- I know Waco gets hot and humid this time of year and two days out there is a long weekend.

Pro / Adv played the Beast rounds 1 and 4. a quick (and possibly inaccurate) scan tells me that the best round this year was a 53 by Rob Lowrie. Mike Olse, Nick Rowton and Chris Farnham also shot 55 to tie for the second-best round at the Beast in this year's tournament. Last year, JD shot 50 and 51 for the historically most consistently great rounds on the beast, and Nolan Grider currently holds the course record at 49. That course certainly earns its name :)

Are the posted payout amounts correct ? MA2 had 26 player's, 1st place payin 45 dollars, MA3 had 13 player's 1st place payin 55 dollars, 2nd place payin 48 dollars. :confused:

yes, they are correct. There was a mistake in the original payout posting for MA3 and rather than disappoint all of the people who already had discs picked out, MaceMan simply allowed the mistake to ride. He ended up losing over $200 on the deal, but you have to hand it to a man who is willing to give out of his pocket to keep the players happy. Hopefully the Rec players who received the extra payout will put the discs to good use, moving up to Intermediate for next year's Waco Charity Open :)

yes, they are correct. There was a mistake in the original payout posting for MA3 and rather than disappoint all of the people who already had discs picked out, MaceMan simply allowed the mistake to ride. He ended up losing over $200 on the deal, but you have to hand it to a man who is willing to give out of his pocket to keep the players happy. Hopefully the Rec players who received the extra payout will put the discs to good use, moving up to Intermediate for next year's Waco Charity Open :)




I bet he didn't come out with a net loss though. :D

yes, they are correct. There was a mistake in the original payout posting for MA3 and rather than disappoint all of the people who already had discs picked out, MaceMan simply allowed the mistake to ride. He ended up losing over $200 on the deal, but you have to hand it to a man who is willing to give out of his pocket to keep the players happy. Hopefully the Rec players who received the extra payout will put the discs to good use, moving up to Intermediate for next year's Waco Charity Open :)




I bet he didn't come out with a net loss though. :D


Matt,

You need to start running tournies. :eek: Maybe then you can understand that a very small net profit is equivalent to a loss if you could have made more somewhere else :D

When you insult and abuse your customers than a small profit is all you are going to get. Rusco from DD though knows how to make tournaments work for both sides, and I think that he is the future of disc golf in Texas. He is a PDGA member, he turns his info in on time, and he enjoys doing what he is doing.

hey flesner what was the last tourney YOU RAN??? ah thought so. now shut-it. dont throw stones unless you have been where mace stands. which I doubt. I dont disagree that mace needs to get sanctioning stuff turned in on time but having to listen to all the crying allot of YOU guys do gets old and would make everyone who runs event want to quit..

I bet he didn't come out with a net loss though. :D



...and he shouldn't.

hey flesner what was the last tourney YOU RAN??? ah thought so. now shut-it. dont throw stones unless you have been where mace stands. which I doubt. I dont disagree that mace needs to get sanctioning stuff turned in on time but having to listen to all the crying allot of YOU guys do gets old and would make everyone who runs event want to quit..



Second this.

Running an event is working for free (or at a loss). Imagine the crying if TD's took out staff wages.

When you insult and abuse your customers than a small profit is all you are going to get. Rusco from DD though knows how to make tournaments work for both sides, and I think that he is the future of disc golf in Texas. He is a PDGA member, he turns his info in on time, and he enjoys doing what he is doing.


I'm a PDGA member, I turn my stuff in on time, and I actually *live* in Texas. There are lots of other TDs in Texas who do the same. Rusco definitely puts on a good show but why would we want to rely on someone to drive down from Kansas to run our tournaments?

When you insult and abuse your customers than a small profit is all you are going to get. Rusco from DD though knows how to make tournaments work for both sides, and I think that he is the future of disc golf in Texas. He is a PDGA member, he turns his info in on time, and he enjoys doing what he is doing.


I'm a PDGA member, I turn my stuff in on time, and I actually *live* in Texas. There are lots of other TDs in Texas who do the same. Rusco definitely puts on a good show but why would we want to rely on someone to drive down from Kansas to run our tournaments?



Josh, Thank you for providing the service that we, the players, pay for....and by pay for i mean, part of my entry fee was for the PDGA, ie players fees.

shut it fleshner - you gripe no matter the circumstances, on any event and about anything, if you play or not

that was a nice ace , I was watching on 9 to be sure we didnt get hit , he is a great guy . Thanks for the great weekend Josh and Mace . I havent missed the charity open since I started playin , I just like feeding the beast ! :D

Nice tournament Turbo. I'm proud of you boy!

FYI - results for The Waco Charity Open and the titleDISC Open have both been turned in and accepted by the PDGA. Both events should be on the next ratings update!

How's that for "on time"? :D:cool:/msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

i do yo nail!

show me them line arts!

show me them line arts!



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That's almost all of the line art. You have a PM. :D