dgdave
May 04 2008, 12:43 PM
Who got theirs? I did!! :D:cool::D:o:D
JackCO
May 04 2008, 12:53 PM
4
I just got a couple, seems to me they sold 400 in under 5 minutes! Although i'm sure not all of the run was released online huh....
dickybird
May 04 2008, 11:36 PM
Hey Jason, I was lucky and snagged 4, 2 of each stamp. Saw you're coming for the Treebash. Bring your oxygen!
Benefit1970
May 07 2008, 01:09 AM
They are already selling on Ebay for over $70!
Anybody have any idea how high these things are going to get?
I set my alarm and bought a few when theyt came out, so I want to know if they will continue to go up in value or if there will be a drop-off at some point.
Thanks - Brandon
BrokenPutt
May 07 2008, 01:14 AM
They are already selling on Ebay for over $70!
Anybody have any idea how high these things are going to get?
I set my alarm and bought a few when theyt came out, so I want to know if they will continue to go up in value or if there will be a drop-off at some point.
Thanks - Brandon
Those you're seeing are rare colors. If you read the auctions they tell you how many of that color were produced. I think the green is the only green one there is! Those are not the ones released to the public. There is only one as of right now that was purchased from the site. It is $31, but it has 6 days to go.
markpeterson
May 07 2008, 01:29 AM
Last year first run champion destroyers were over 150.00 bucks. Now there 17.00. It's not like they will be sold out and never made again. Of course they will frreak out and then be NORMAL priced discs. History repeats it's self.
kwibby1
May 07 2008, 01:53 AM
I don't know Mark the the star, football, and bar stamps still sell for around 50+ especially the original star stamp.. 150.00 won't be seen again on these but these Excalibers at least saying on the disc "first run" will help it retain a collectors value. The true 1st run champ destroyers had tourney stamps and most people will forget or not be impressed by a tourney stamp 1st run so those went way down in value. Just my opinion /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif OHHH i got some 1st run champ XCALIBERS for trade Mark :p
okcacehole
May 07 2008, 02:09 AM
1st run wraiths somewhat did the same thing in CFR though the price didn't go quite as high...then they went back to the original price and are slowly going back up
You never know...I would get rid of them now and make a few bucks
then again..check out USED SE Rhyno's...they can fetch 25-50 used..
I'll stick with Rocs, Midnight Flyers and other discs that have held their values for time
kwibby1
May 07 2008, 03:52 AM
1st run wraiths somewhat did the same thing in CFR though the price didn't go quite as high...then they went back to the original price and are slowly going back up
You never know...I would get rid of them now and make a few bucks
then again..check out USED SE Rhyno's...they can fetch 25-50 used..
I'll stick with Rocs, Midnight Flyers and other discs that have held their values for time
True about the Wraiths but there were a couple thousand i believe. A smaller run (200 each of four stamps) will help retain their value i think. I really didn't see the hoopla though with the Xcalibers as compared to the Destroyer and don't really know what most Discers think of them... the flat top one i throw(star) seems less stable than my pro destroyer but flys farther?? My pro Wraiths still get me the most D
dgdave
May 07 2008, 12:52 PM
did anyone get them this morning before the site crashed?
tacimala
May 07 2008, 12:53 PM
Still workin on it! Have two in the cart and going slowly through the checkout process...
edit: yep, got two
dgdave
May 07 2008, 01:06 PM
got 2 swooshes in the cart. anyone see the mini stars?
jtkustomizer
May 07 2008, 01:09 PM
I cant even get in to the site.
dgdave will you get me one?
dgdave
May 07 2008, 01:15 PM
Ok all mine got wiped out of my cart before I could check out.
Anyone wanna trade a bar stamp and a Big Star for a swoosh and mini star?
tacimala
May 07 2008, 01:29 PM
The mini star ones must have gotten scooped up before I got on there because I only saw the swooshes and grabbed two of those. I'd be interested in trading for a mini star as well if someone has one. I've got multiples of all 3 other ones.
Twisted1
May 07 2008, 01:30 PM
I will trade you a swoosh for a big star... I don't think the Mini Stars made it in... or did they? I had swoosh in my cart like 6 times and it got cleaned... I got in last minute style, when it sent me back to the site they were off again...
So did anyone see a mini in there?
dgdave
May 07 2008, 01:31 PM
No. They are already off the main page too
Twisted1
May 07 2008, 01:31 PM
Now it says they oversold them... we shall see... guess we missed the mini's
Twisted1
May 07 2008, 01:35 PM
Thanks DGD... Holla if you need a swoosh. My hats off to Mark and Crew for pulling this off twice in a week! Good Luck shaking it all out! Glad I can play Master this year and hopefully grab some of that LOOT!!!
zbiberst
May 07 2008, 01:43 PM
i have the three others as well and would be interested in a mini if anyone wants to trade, although they said they oversold, so we will see what happens. hope i still get mine :eek:
did anyone even see the mini stamp?
Frodo_Bagger
May 07 2008, 03:36 PM
The mini stars were there for a second , but when I put one in my cart it crashed . Luckily I had already purchased a swoosh. Maybe if they oversold , they took the mini down to replace some swoosh' stamped ones that were ordered.Wishful thinking on my part. :confused: :D
mick
sprdgr
May 07 2008, 08:28 PM
OK here I go - Peterson pessimist. You must've gotten shut out of these Mark or want to see them die.
First of all Ch. Destroyers went way over $150 at first - sometimes as much as $400, thanks to Donny Olow. Problem is, he's seemingly dropped off the face of the earth. They're still going for at least $50 to $100 depending on color and stamp. Where are you on the Ch. XCalibers Donny? I think these will be hot because of the low numbers and Innova TM stamps incorporated in to them. Yea, future designs will go for less but they did a sweet job on these CFR's.
pixel
May 08 2008, 02:58 AM
Thanks Mike. If tonight's auctions were any indication, it looks like the 150 mark is not that far off. I saw some at 120+ with 15 min left in auction (blueberry big star rainbow foil). Not sure how it ended, but I'm sure the mini star stamp will be popular in all the collectible colors. There is no scheduled release of the champion XCaliber into the CFR program. Its sure to happen eventually, but it could be a little while. The "blueberry" in particular is a rare color for champion plastic period. With the addition of the "first run" innova stamps, + the low release numbers I would bet these would hold value more than most first run discs. Of course the collectors market is an unpredictable beast and I could be completely wrong, but that's my opinion.
tacimala
May 08 2008, 01:51 PM
I never saw any get to $120 for the big group of them that ended on 5/5. All went for between $75 and $102.50 with most in the lower end of that range. Still a pretty penny.
zbiberst
May 08 2008, 02:01 PM
you can search completed listings
$75-$128.50
tacimala
May 08 2008, 02:14 PM
How do you search completed listings? I've never seen an option for that!
zbiberst
May 08 2008, 02:20 PM
either check the box for the search options to the left. or the 'advanced search' option by the search bar will take you to an advanced search page that has the 'search completed listings' box.
tacimala
May 08 2008, 02:24 PM
Very nice, that is good info thanks. I tracked the 5/5 ones but hadn't seen the ending price for the 5/7 ones.
tenWatt
May 08 2008, 02:38 PM
What site did you guys buy them from?
dgdave
May 08 2008, 02:46 PM
disc golf values
Benefit1970
May 08 2008, 08:31 PM
I'm selling my Champion XCalibers!
One is BLACK (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=290229188778&ssPa geName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=019) and one is Clear Yellow (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=290229187408&ssPa geName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=019) !
The yellow one starts at $30.00, and the black one's starting at $35.00.
Make a bid if you want, there's free shipping.
Thanks - Brandon
markpeterson
May 08 2008, 09:52 PM
Thanks Mike. I am surprised to see new discs sell for that much. You know there's alot more comeing. I didn't even try to get the first ones. I don't want to see them die. I just thought alot of people got caried away with over bidding, that's all. By the way, It's just an opinion.I take it you got about 100 of them. Take care Mike,see ya!!
sprdgr
May 08 2008, 11:19 PM
eBay is all about getting carried away with the bidding Mark. Join in on the fun - starting with these! Ice Clear Champion XCaliber (http://cgi.ebay.com/ICE-CLEAR-FIRST-RUN-CHAMPION-XCALIBER-175g-GOLF-DISC_W0QQitemZ140231537230QQihZ004QQcategoryZ20851 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) or Black Rainbow Champion XCaliber (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=140231542114&ssPa geName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=004) or even Blueberry Champion XCaliber (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=350058289321&ssPa geName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=022)
dgdave
May 08 2008, 11:55 PM
i was lucky enought to get a black with rainbow big star and a totally clear bar stamp. even the orange and yellow ones i got are exteamly clear
sprdgr
May 09 2008, 12:16 AM
Yea, this run was just about a sweet a batch of Champion plastic that I've ever seen - super clear rims on the ice and very clean black ones. Also, they did them justice by stamping them with rainbow and metallic/refractor foils on some instead of the boring black gloss and chrome that we saw on the FR Champion Destroyers.
Whoop! there goes MM/Values with a fresh batch of mini star and swoosh on ebay!
zbiberst
May 09 2008, 01:48 AM
matching set of orange star and bar stamp along with a blueberry bar and dayglo yellow.
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZspongezac
kwibby1
May 09 2008, 01:50 AM
eBay is all about getting carried away with the bidding Mark. Join in on the fun - starting with these! Ice Clear Champion XCaliber (http://cgi.ebay.com/ICE-CLEAR-FIRST-RUN-CHAMPION-XCALIBER-175g-GOLF-DISC_W0QQitemZ140231537230QQihZ004QQcategoryZ20851 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) or Black Rainbow Champion XCaliber (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=140231542114&ssPa geName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=004) or even Blueberry Champion XCaliber (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=350058289321&ssPa geName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=022)
:D love it those are sweet
dgdave
May 12 2008, 09:32 AM
Anyone have some black ghost stamped xc's?
Were the only ghost stamps the big and mini stars?
rhedd
May 13 2008, 11:58 AM
I got a black with a "party time" reflective stamp.
dgdave
May 13 2008, 12:13 PM
nice get! i got a full set of black with rainbow stamps. working on getting an offset ministar rainbow and the ghost stamps to have a full matching black set
jtkustomizer
May 13 2008, 12:25 PM
I am looking for an Ice clear xcaliber if anybody has one they would like to sell or trade please let me know.
sprdgr
May 14 2008, 01:21 AM
I got a black with a "party time" reflective stamp.
I didn't see any of those I don't think. Are they just like the '07 USDGC party time foil? Post a pic if you can.
sprdgr
May 14 2008, 01:27 AM
I am looking for an Ice clear xcaliber if anybody has one they would like to sell or trade please let me know.
I've got a few. Which stamp were you looking for?
tacimala
May 14 2008, 12:35 PM
I've got a yellow swoosh stamp with black foil I'm going to put on ebay later today unless someone wants to send an offer.
Luckymutha
May 14 2008, 01:45 PM
2 more on ebay. The ebay descriptions aren't all that great (I didn't put them up), but maybe that means you can get a deal?
They are max weight as I believe all are. Good colors for throwing too.
http://cgi.ebay.com/1st-Run-Golden-State...1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.com/1st-Run-Golden-State-Classis-Champion-Xcaliber_W0QQitemZ260239353281QQihZ016QQcategoryZ2 0851QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
http://cgi.ebay.com/1st-Run-Innova-Champ...1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.com/1st-Run-Innova-Champion-Xcaliber-disc-golf-disc_W0QQitemZ260239352811QQihZ016QQcategoryZ20851 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
jtkustomizer
May 14 2008, 01:52 PM
I am looking for an Ice clear xcaliber if anybody has one they would like to sell or trade please let me know.
I've got a few. Which stamp were you looking for?
I sent you a PM
BobHarris
May 14 2008, 02:19 PM
Yes, I was fortunate enough to climb through the three minute window and snag a few. Not enough arm to throw one, but I consider myself a collecter. Even sold one at cost to a buddy but as yet haven't convinced him to throw it. My question- how do they fly? Anyone? The plastic is absolutely beautiful!
zbiberst
May 14 2008, 04:06 PM
i have one ice clear and one swirl smoke swoosh with rainbow foil. if youre still looking for clear. make an offer, or they may go on the wall. the other colors i have will hit ebay, (dayglo with rainbow swoosh, and orange with plain silver swoosh)
blueberry barstamp and a nice matching orange to yellow blend pair with bar and starstamps are already ebaying..
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZspongezac
dgdave
May 14 2008, 09:44 PM
Any one wanna buy some for less than ebay prices? Paypal only, $45 shipped each
I have
Orange with Rainbow Bar Stamp
Dayglo yellow with Rainbow Big Star Stamp
I also an Ice Clear with black Bar Stamp that is pending. If that doesn't work out, I'll post it.
dgdave
May 15 2008, 08:21 AM
Any one wanna buy some for less than ebay prices? Paypal only, $45 shipped each
I have
Orange with Rainbow Bar Stamp
Dayglo yellow with Rainbow Big Star Stamp
I also an Ice Clear with black Bar Stamp that is pending. If that doesn't work out, I'll post it.
Sold
dgdave
May 22 2008, 07:11 PM
has anyone tosed one of these yet? how do they compare to the ecos?i wish i would have kept one to throw.
anyone have ne they want to trade?
junky
May 22 2008, 08:53 PM
really overstable
dgdave
May 22 2008, 09:12 PM
more than the star and eco?
tdwriter
May 23 2008, 04:42 PM
Do they throw like a $50-$60 disc? ;) rWc3523
These champion ones are definatly different looking than the stars. Mine have no dome at all, all the star i have seen have pop top domes, especially the ECO's. I am curious to throw one but haven't yet. It seemed to me the eco's were more stable with the huge dome so i'm not sure i will like these.
If they truley are more stable than any others i may have to try one out though!
dgdave
May 24 2008, 02:27 PM
i have 10 champs nd i have some that are flat and some that are domey, not huge poppy top domey. the only reglar star xc i have is super flat and its not great for big headwinds. i have 3 ecos. e that have a nice mild dome and 1 poppy top mega dome. the mild dome ones are f-ing awesome. i wasn't a fan of these at first, but have reall come to like them over the last coupe of weeks.
dgdave
May 29 2008, 03:39 PM
I just got the last of th set I was trying to build and I want to show it off. :D
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2222/2533634045_6c3eb878ff_b.jpg
This is a full set of Smoke Champ XC's with rainbow stamps and ghost stamps. Both sets have the centered and off set variation of the Mini Star stamp
junky
May 29 2008, 07:19 PM
Nice collection dgdave
Luckymutha
May 30 2008, 01:24 PM
more than the star and eco?
Mine is more overstable than both of my Star XCs (1st and 2nd run); almost like a faster Max. The best part is that it will stay that way for a year rather than 2 months! :D
I haven't thrown Eco.
tdwriter
May 30 2008, 02:27 PM
So when will they be available to the masses? rWc3523
EricJKopit
May 30 2008, 11:01 PM
Alright, I think I may need one of those. I have TONS of RARE discs to trade. WHAT DO YOU NEED? I HAVE MIDNIGHT FLYERS FOR CRISSAKES! WHY AM I YELLING? WHO AM I TALKING TO???
Seriously though, PM me. TELL ME WHAT YOU WANT! besides actual $$$ of course...
:eek:
-E
dgdave
May 30 2008, 11:04 PM
more than the star and eco?
Mine is more overstable than both of my Star XCs (1st and 2nd run); almost like a faster Max. The best part is that it will stay that way for a year rather than 2 months! :D
I haven't thrown Eco.
I hear ya. I have an eco that I've been using for 3 weeks that is a hyzerflip, slightly HSS understable. It has had a few big tree hits. Its a nice disc
sun_king
Jun 18 2008, 05:23 PM
~Innova Champion XCaliber (CFR) - $24.99 (http://www.sunkingdiscs.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1877)
MTL21676
Jun 18 2008, 05:58 PM
I have some for sale for my tournament.
26 w/ Shipping and paypal fees. All Max Weight. PM me if interested.
MTL21676
Jun 18 2008, 10:25 PM
The CFR X-Calibers are ordered are here!!
These are getting gone quick.
They are all max weight and are the following colors.
Yellow
Neon Green
Dark Purple
Pink
20 dollars in person, 21 via paypal, 26 for shipped.
rudge
Jun 18 2008, 11:06 PM
What stamp is on them?
MTL21676
Jun 18 2008, 11:29 PM
The tournament I am running.
I have it via PDF and can email it to you or anyone else who would like it.
rudge
Jun 18 2008, 11:54 PM
PM Sent. THANKS!
disconsolator
Jun 19 2008, 04:47 PM
Hmmm, remember when discgolfvalues said there were no plans to run more of these any time soon? What a joke.
widiscgolf
Jun 19 2008, 05:01 PM
I think Mark at discgolfvalue was talking about no plans on running those Hot Stamps again.
scottreek
Jun 20 2008, 07:52 AM
The Champion CFR XCalibers are also available at www.underpardiscgolf.com. (http://www.underpardiscgolf.com.) These are fundraisers for the Wisconsin Junior Championships.
They are going for $24.99 with $3.00 shipping. If you spend over $40, shipping is FREE.
tacimala
Jun 20 2008, 11:06 AM
Hmmm, remember when discgolfvalues said there were no plans to run more of these any time soon? What a joke.
This is the same thing I thought when I saw these.
disconsolator
Jun 20 2008, 12:42 PM
The things I remember his ebay auctions and when you bought them was something along the lines of innova has no plans of running the disc any time soon, not just the hot stamp, that's a given. Also, I think on the boards people were speculating they may run them only for the big tournaments. I guess I can't blame innova for not being able to keep it in their pants! Although I feel with the destroyers, they at least waited more than a month.
MTL21676
Jun 20 2008, 01:02 PM
Still Champion X-Cals available through me.
Dark Purple
Yellow
Neon Green
Pink
26 dollars w/ shipping and pay pal fees. What a deal!!
PM me to get one!!!
dgdave
Jun 22 2008, 11:57 PM
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZdgdavedg
There are 2 sets of black XC's with the retro stamps. 1 rainbow set and one Ghost set. If you buy both, I'll knock $50 off the price!
chrispfrisbee
Jun 24 2008, 01:29 PM
Champ XCalibers (http://www.sdsproshop.com/pd-champion-xcaliber.cfm) are in! Get some for $24.95 and support the Alabama state points series.
shaunh
Jun 27 2008, 01:05 AM
They seem to be drop'n price pretty quick on Ebay.
EricJKopit
Jun 27 2008, 01:34 AM
Can someone comment on the relative stability of the first runs (star stamped Star plastic), the regular production run Star, EcoStar, and first run Champion?
I know the EcoStar is domey, but is actually quite overstable. The Champion I have is flat, but may not be quite as stable as the EcoStar.
Please post with any direct comparisons in flight you have done.
These things are sick for sidearm drives.
MTL21676
Jun 27 2008, 01:45 PM
Still Champion X-Cals available through me.
Dark Purple
Yellow
Neon Green
Pink
26 dollars w/ shipping and pay pal fees. What a deal!!
PM me to get one!!!
From what I've been reading on this thread, this is the cheapest you can get one of these!!
They are going like crazy. Don't wait!!
MTL21676
Jul 01 2008, 12:58 PM
Still Champion X-Cals available through me.
Dark Purple
Yellow
Neon Green
Pink
26 dollars w/ shipping and pay pal fees. What a deal!!
PM me to get one!!!
From what I've been reading on this thread, this is the cheapest you can get one of these!!
They are going like crazy. Don't wait!!
MTL21676
Jul 16 2008, 08:14 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&i tem=150268695502
INCREDIBLE deal on 2 CFR Champion X-Calibers
mikeP
Oct 29 2008, 10:56 AM
Wow, I just read through 82 posts and only 2 commented on how this disc actually flies.
I picked one up this weekend after a recommendation from a friend. I've been throwing a domey, red, max weight Star XC. I've found it to be a more predictable version of a Destroyer in the wind. I had hoped it would be a true overstable disc like a Firebird/Monster/Max only as fast as anything out there. Not quite...
The Champion XC I have is max weight with a very small dome. Most of the others I felt were COMPLETELY flat. The Champion plastic is fairly grippy, though not gummy at all. Flightwise this disc is faster, more overstable, and has better lift than my Star XC. I throw Z Predators for my overstable disc, and the Champion XC to me flies like a faster version with the lift and glide of the Predator. I threw it yesterday in wind that definetely was messing with the timing of my Predator's flight characteristics. The Champion XC was smooth and fast and did not get knocked around by the wind at all. I only threw it once forehand and I was very impressed. Right now I'm pretty happy with it. I think that its probably the fastest, most usable truly overstable driver out there. If it keeps its stability over time it will be even better.
bruce_brakel
Oct 29 2008, 11:39 AM
Still Champion X-Cals available through me.
Dark Purple
Yellow
Neon Green
Pink
26 dollars w/ shipping and pay pal fees. What a deal!!
PM me to get one!!!
From what I've been reading on this thread, this is the cheapest you can get one of these!!
They are going like crazy. Don't wait!!
I've been selling them slowly for $20 each since August. I have six left, $20 each. PM me for colors and weights if you are interested.
Char
Oct 29 2008, 01:24 PM
We still have some 08 Worlds CE Xcalibers for $16.95 - but they are all 172g
http://gottagogottathrow.com/discgolf/2008-worlds-merchandise-c-71.html?page=2&sort=3a
peterkunoff
Oct 29 2008, 04:24 PM
discspeed, if I am reading this right you are prefering the xcaliber over the boss, force, and destroyer, correct???
John Keith
Oct 29 2008, 10:01 PM
Right on again DiscSpeed. The champ XC is what the disc should be, faster, further, overstable Max, with glide. I use it for long windy drives and can trust it unlike Teerex and star XC'x thanks man. and wow that Boss can fly......thanks again
John Keith
Oct 29 2008, 10:03 PM
He prefers it for a certain shot. You need the boss for all out Distance and room to "S" around, star wraith for consistant no room for error Distance, and Champ XC for stupid head wind but need more D than Pred can offer. So they are a 3 SET COMBO.
mikeP
Oct 30 2008, 01:06 PM
discspeed, if I am reading this right you are prefering the xcaliber over the boss, force, and destroyer, correct???
I was just saying I prefer the Champion XC over the Star XC and every other fast, overstable disc. I would not consider the Force and Destroyer truly overstable discs, but rather discs that are straight flyers that require a lot of torque to work right.
Like Hollywood said, right now I've grooving the Wraith/Boss/Champ XC trio for my distance needs.
peterkunoff
Oct 30 2008, 01:53 PM
thanks!