I've been playing for a while now, but I still have a lot of trouble putting in the wind. I've used (and still carry in my bag) a Bulldog, Hydra, E-series Wizard, and countless other overstable putters trying to keep a disc from getting caught up and blowing over the basket or being pushed underneath it. Does anyone have any suggestions of a really good windy putter I could try? Thanks!

I have always heard the Rhyno is a great wind putter...

Never used it myself.

I personally think that wind management can be done successfully with practically any putter though.

More about technique than disc selection....to a point.

You already tried it. Anyway if you are having problems going high or low it isn't the disc. If it us flipping in the wind then it is the disc but in this case I would say work on your putting.

I use a Champion Gator when it's REALLY blowing. Best bet is to practice more in the wind. I don't think anything works better than practicing in the wind and really paying attention to what the wind is doing while you're practicing to make you a better wind putter.
Try tying a flag/streamer to your practice basket so you are always aware of wind direction. Pay attention to what works best.
Use the wind ... don't let it use you.
Easy to say ... I know! Good luck.

For average windy conditions I use a KC Pro Aviar.
And for very windy conditions I use a midrange disc like a Roc or Buzzz.
Mainly its technique that gets you in the basket in windy conditions. Don't let the wind get a chance to get under an edge and flip it one way or another.
Practice in the wind, when you get a very windy day go to your course and practice putting. Practice putting, not play a round, but practice. Practice putting in a headwind, tailwind, right to left, left to right. Practice it all, that's the only true advice there is......

Thanks guys. I appreciate the help. So people would really advocate clubbing up and putting with a midrange in the wind? I was trying to avoid that if possible, but if it works, I'll give it a shot.

Thanks guys. I appreciate the help. So people would really advocate clubbing up and putting with a midrange in the wind? I was trying to avoid that if possible, but if it works, I'll give it a shot.




I wouldn't recommend that! Mids are more nose angle sensitive than putters and I'm sure even more so in the wind on putts.

That's what I figured. If anything, I'd say I'd putt with a firebird because it's predictable, but not a mid.

Thanks guys. I appreciate the help. So people would really advocate clubbing up and putting with a midrange in the wind? I was trying to avoid that if possible, but if it works, I'll give it a shot.



I wouldn't recommend that! Mids are more nose angle sensitive than putters and I'm sure even more so in the wind on putts.



Most Midrange discs have a bigger diameter than a putter. That is what makes them more nose angle sensitive in the wind. I use a Champ Gator when it is blowing hard. It has the same diameter as my BB Aviars, but is way less touchy. The Gator holds its height and angle no matter what the conditions. The lack of glide and its very over-stable flight path make it my go-to when winds are brutal!

I love the (ESP)Banger GT. That being said, I must reiterate that it is the person and not the disc that plays the wind correctly. I guess what we're really talking about are putters that do not glide...usually a bad thing, but good when its windy.

Rhyno or Challenger...or a Wasp if its a nasty head wind. But I wouldn't recommend a mid-rang as some others said unless you are VERY familiar with how it will react in certain winds and at different angles.

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FLX Drone.


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Whatever feels most comfortable in your hand upside-down.

I putt with a rhyno and if it is really windy I have used a Champ Gator.

Stack was telling me a few weeks ago about his experiences at the Crosstown. The wind was so bad that he was putting upside down and having the disc slide to the basket.

now i use the soft banget gt, but i am still an advocate that the best wind putter on the market is the soft rhyno.Now that being said, i hope my sponsor doesnt get mad at me saying that. But this comes from years of experience putting with the rhyno
mj

Nothing wrong with being REAL hippie especially regarding the Rhyno

I normally use the Aviar, but sometimes use the Gator in a real heavy headwind...
Have you ever tried putting with anhyzer in the headwind or putting upside down?

in a head wind you just have to put nice and level with out getting much flutter and you should be fine. And i was definitely being real about the rhyno B_S
mj

You should try the Latitude 64 Sinus SP.

Best windy putter on the market... is the one you putt with every day. I use a beat to hell Aviar Putt & Approach. It works just fine. The key is high wrist snap and low arm speed on a level line to the basket, keep the edge of the disc moving into the wind and don't show it the top or bottom, the wind will be enough to keep it moving and the snap will keep it on line.

It is basically the same principle as handling an UltraStar on a windy day. High snap, low arm speed, be firm.

I putt with a rhyno and if it is really windy I have used a Champ Gator.

Stack was telling me a few weeks ago about his experiences at the Crosstown. The wind was so bad that he was putting upside down and having the disc slide to the basket.



not just me... quite a few employing this tactic... and just so the visual is there... think shuffleboard style... literally throwing/sliding it upside down the whole way. This was crazy wind though... wind that would blow a disc out of the basket... blow a disc out of someones hands when they prepare to putt... wind that blew a putt into the front side of the basket (hit it flat) and rolled/blew up the chains and over the chastity belt over the basket and away from the basket.

i agree with a lot of other comments... best thing seems to be practice putting in the wind (something I still need to work on)... and one thing to think about that i dont think anybody has mentioned is to place your drive/upshot based on what type of wind you feel comfortable putting in. (read about this tactic on climo's website)

Stack you just need to practice some in the wind. that would really help you out
mj

Stack you just need to practice some in the wind. that would really help you out
mj




best thing seems to be practice putting in the wind (something I still need to work on)...



totally agree... as i said above :) I actually have a great resource for practicing it with Cam Yards but I tend to not go out when its windy instead of making a point of going out to practice.

Thanks for all the suggestions. I've seen several putt with a really flippy rhyno and thought that worked well. I haven't tried the Latitude 64 Sinus SP, but I'll give it a shot

piranha was the best ever but they stopped making the good soft ones.

piranha was the best ever but they stopped making the good soft ones.


I have 6 black, very soft ones in my basement. Since you'll be there tonite anyway, want 1 (or some)?

...could very well be, i'd probably put one back in the bag if i had more than one.

what you need a putter for wind at Hawk Hollow John?theres no wind there!?!?!?

On a pitch 'n putt course like HH, a reliable wind putter is very important. :p

what about a Mirage or Sky Streak? ;)

I have used (and still use right now) the Sinus AP and the Piranha. I think that the Sinus is better in the wind, only because It has less glide then the Piranha and more of a Midrange like rim. I think both are great, but in a headwind would go with the Sinus.

Agree with those suggesting putting upside down with the same putter you normally use. It's good to practice this throw anyway since it also is a good shot to get out from under low branches. Just used both of those shots earlier today.

Putting upside is smart if your laying up....if you actually want to make the putt then you need to learn how to putt normal in the wind.

exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!

Disagree. As a loft putter, I would rather miss low in the wind or any time for that matter. By loft putting upside down, although I shift to a little more of a line drive, I can go for it in the wind and will likely miss low and closer to the pin than trying to control the loft with the disc right side up.

yea but i dont condone being a loft putter in the wind!!!

As a straddle putter, I can be more accurate continuing my more familiar loft motion but with more line drive trajectory upside down than shifting to another style. Putting right side up with a deep straddle stance makes it harder to keep the nose down so you don't fly away on a miss.

ok, chuck whatever

Fortunately, I don't play in high enough winds most of the time to need that shot very often. I agree that those who regularly play in high winds need to learn how to angle their putts and putt right side up. At Mike's level, he has more pressure to practice and be as skilled as possible for those conditions. The upside down putt is still a less riskier way to "go for it" when the situation arises only occasionally and you haven't grooved your wind putting either due to playing less often or not playing where wind is much of a factor.

Wizard! Is there really any question?

I've got a Wizard and it's a great disc, but it doesn't really do the job for me. It's great as a driver in the wind for that 200 - 250 foot upshot, however, so I keep it in my bag. The thing is, it's not a once in a while thing that I see this happen. I live in Rock Hill and spend most of my time playing out at the Winthrop lake where there are constant 20 mph headwinds. That's why I was asking in the first place. Any more suggestions are much appreciated.

Winds 0-5 JK Aviar
Winds 5-10 KC Aviar
Anything beyond that DX Hydra

One of the courses i play has constant 20-30 mile an hour winds.
On a windy day it gets up into 40s and 50s.

I'm going to echo those saying the Rhyno. I played for several years in Texas, and had lots of wind most of the time. I played in the sick-windy (60+ mph the whole round) Crosstown earlier this year with Stack and others, and the wind-experience helped a lot. As sad as it is, I shot the same score in the crazy wind as I did the next day when it almost calm (probably less than 10mph).

I usually putt with a Wizard, but when it is windy (anything over 20mph) I put an old CE Fundraiser Rhyno in my bag for upwind/crosswind shots -- not just because it is more consistent as a putter, but because it is more consistent as an upshot disc.

As someone who still uses Piranhas, too, I agree that they work great in the wind, but for most people (myself included) they are too different from a regular putter to really be a comfortable substitute. A Rhyno is the closest thing I know of to the feel of what people are already used to that still works dramatically better in the wind. That said, a Piranha is a sick disc for flick-upshots in the wind if you can get your hands on one.

Ray -- I saw that you said you still had some old soft Piranha's in the basement. I only have one true softy -- my first disc ever -- and I've been searching for years for another in the same plastic. If any of yours are that soft, almost gummy plastic, I'd love to get one from you. I'm not sure what I have that you'd want, but there are enough discs that have piled up over the last 10 years that I'm sure something would strike your fancy.

Oh, and for those days when the wind is obscene -- like Crosstown was -- never feel bad about throwing upside-down shots as upshots. At Crosstown, 30-feet out was an upshot, and all you wanted to do was take a driver, turn it upside down, and try to park it by the basket.

i checked out part of rays stash last night and it wasn't a soft one- he does believe he has at least one of the true softies somewhere.

Yeah, I found it last night. Black, 174g, and exactly the same plastic as SE Rhyno. I do believe, however, that it is the only one of that particular plastic in my stash.

The heaviest Classic Roc you can find.
These hold really well in the wind, and don't feel too bad on a putt.

piranha was the best ever but they stopped making the good soft ones.


I have 6 black, very soft ones in my basement. Since you'll be there tonite anyway, want 1 (or some)?



So wher the ones you found in your basement max weight and not soft? I like the ones that arent very soft, and wouldnt mind getting some more. If you wouldnt mind trading or selling any let me know.

I'll have to check weights, but 5 of the 6 are relatively soft (like alate 20th century vintage XD) & 1 is SE Rhyno-supersoft, and spoken for by the winner of the Biscoe/Haynes cage match. Will do so this weekend (if I remember ) & let you know.

I'm thinking Wizard, I rarely see the wind do anything crazy to beaded putters and the Wizards bead is as big as any!

I see you say the Wizard doesn't do the job, can you explain whats going wrong with your putts in the wind,,,, maybe its technique?
Having the correct nose angle and spin really help in the wind.

a brand new heavy soft/medium glow wizard

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a brand new heavy soft/medium glow wizard



The really stiff Superglow Wizards are the most stable putters I have ever used. Not only are they great for windy putts and approaching, but their stability allows the disc to be thrown like a driver for those under 300 shots.

Superglow Warlock is #1

Superglow Warlock is #1



Warlocks for mild wind, Wizards for the heavier winds IMO.

A brand new med warlock is darn overstable. Like those first run dancing bears

A brand new med warlock is darn overstable. Like those first run dancing bears



That's true. I'm using a Med. Warlock for short drives, and wow that disc fades pretty hard for a putter. I think it's more stable than the Dancing Bears glow run.

I echo that it's the Indian, not the Arrow. When it's windy, I work on being smooth, flat and imparting a little more spin on the disc. That way it holds it's line better. Outside 10m I aim for the base of the pole unless it's downwind or I'm feeling confident. Inside 25' I go for it but really work on a little extra spin and throwing it light and smooth into the wind. I will on occasion putt upside down or with an overstable disc. Biggest thing is practice upshots from 40-120 feet in high winds so the putts are as short as possible. A good stable putter like a Wizard, BB Aviar, GT Banger or Challenger is good for that range. Find some wind and practice in it...that's how you really get better.

-MADMAX

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I use a gummy spider and it works great in high winds.

I can't believe the DH P&A(Devil Hawk Putt & Approach) has not been mentioned here. Gotta be one of the best fo sho.

Rhyno, nuff said!

I'm taking Madmax's suggestion ... Now I just throw Indians. They are not very hard to catch when drunk or stoned, and they fly really well in this condition. Not really good for practice though, because I can usually only get one in the basket at a time ... unless they are small.
I've found the "push" putt is the best method of getting an Indian in the basket. ;)

The legendary Ching Tank is by far the best windy weather putter. It' s a shame that the dont make them anymore.

or the Pro Rhyno, Byoung- you playing Waco

WIZARD RULES IN THE WIND - WHEN IT REALLY GETS UP 30 PLUS THERE IS ONE PUTTER THAT WILLL GIVE YOU A CHANCE - WIZAAAHD

The legendary Ching Tank is by far the best windy weather putter. It' s a shame that the dont make them anymore.



I'm kinda wondering if the Pig is going to very closely resemble the Tank?

I'm kinda surprised no one here mentioned The Bulldog. I used it for heavy winds when I 1st began, but that disc is very stable. If someone did mention it I'm sorry for my lack of literacy.

I'll second the Bulldog. Used mine today in the 30mph winds here in Tejas.

Champion Spider has been good to me putting into headwind. I'm a diehard DX Rhyno user 95% of the time, however, without a strong breeeeeze~~~~`~~`~~

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I've been using my Zone to putt in windy conditions lately. Lower profile to catch wind.

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WIZARD RULES IN THE WIND - WHEN IT REALLY GETS UP 30 PLUS THERE IS ONE PUTTER THAT WILLL GIVE YOU A CHANCE - WIZAAAHD



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wizard is not nearly as good into the wind as a rhyno. if it is really windy, use a midrange.

KC Pro Aviar regardless of the wind. The only time I don't use the KC is when its below 20-25 degrees; too stiff.

Rhyno, Rhyno, Rhyno, Goooo Rhyno!!

i now have to go with Zone, Zone, Zone

Champion Rhyno...got to be flat though....no dome!...did I mention Rhyno?

hands down the Wizard....no comparison