Original Four (Hobson, White, Ker and Lovers)


Are we playing the above courses for pro weekend?

Omit Lovers, add Phil Moore.

NT Clinic Series

Learn from the best for FREE :D

Friday April 11th 5:30-7:30
Phil Moore Park

Des Reading
Dave Feldberg
Avery Jenkins
Jay Reading

Everyone is welcome so help get the word out.

Non-Tournament players will also get raffle ticket for Spectator Raffle after Sunday's Final 9 for a Traveler basket, bag of discs and golf discs from Innova Champion.

Presented by the PDGA and the Touring Players

Omit Lovers, add Phil Moore.




Why no Lovers Lane?

Omit Lovers, add Phil Moore.




Why no Lovers Lane?




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This from the TD himself. We will be playing White, Hobson, Kereiakes and Phil Moore. We will use lovers if there is a lot of rain causing problems out at Phil Moor.

Thanks Larry!!

Sweet! That is so awesome! Now I can finally learn how to putt!

NT Clinic Series

Learn from the best for FREE :D

Friday April 11th 5:30-7:30
Phil Moore Park

Des Reading
Dave Feldberg
Avery Jenkins
Jay Reading

Everyone is welcome so help get the word out.

Non-Tournament players will also get raffle ticket for Spectator Raffle after Sunday's Final 9 for a Traveler basket, bag of discs and golf discs from Innova Champion.

Presented by the PDGA and the Touring Players



Sounds like a fun time. We'll be there on the 10th. See you guys and gals there!!

Josh

Lovers Lane will replace Phil Moore during the BG NT. The final nine and awards has also been moved to Lovers Lane. Player registration and pro clinic will still be at Phil Moore on Friday.

BG Disc Golf Club Inc.

anyone have directions to Phil Moore park? is it in the pDGA directory?

exit 22 off I-65, go east 2.5 miles, park on right, hole one by main building.........

thanks grover!

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You'll love Phil Moore Rebel! rWc3523

Better Directions.

From I-65 S take a left..going east...if N..take a right..going east. Go past all the hotels you will most likely be staying at. If you see Jimmy D's Bar-B-Que and Self Storage on your right....stop in...they close at 6pm...not open on Sunday and Monday. Bar-B-Que is excellent and the banana pudding will hit the spot...anyway...keep going east...until you think you are headed to the boonies...you'll come down a hill and see something on your right that looks like a finish line at a raceway....bam..you are at the park. Pull in...walk past the gym to hole #1. Play a round early and hit Jimmy D's Bar-B-Que on the way back to the hotel.

Well I heard we're now playing Lovers Lane not Phil Moore.

thanks for the better directions. love some BBQ too, i will check that out. who'd ya ask about the Moore/Lovers decision?

nevermind, i just looked at the BG website:

BG NT Changes (Course/Final Nine/Awards)
Lovers lane will replace Phil Moore during the BG NT. The Sunday final nine and awards will also be at Lovers Lane instead of Phil Moore Park. Players registration and the Pro clinic will still be held at Phil Moore Park on Friday.

I bet those trees at Lover's have grown a lot since the last time i was in town!

For those on the fence about the clinic, I would say go check it out. I went at The Memorial and enjoyed it, learned a few things.

What time is registration on Friday @ Phil Moore?

6pm to 9pm Friday at Phil Moore inside main building, take left at the first hall way, multipurpose room on the left.

Is that registration and check-in? We may not be in till after 9 on Friday. Is there Saturday morning check-in? I didn't see anything on bgdg.com...THANKS

The weather is shaky at this point, but the clinic will have a Q&A in the building if nothing else. We may even be able to use the gymnasium on site.
This will be a great opportunity to spend some time with top pros and ask some questions.

Phil Moore Park for clinic and registration check-in

Yeti

Good luck to all the pros this weekend. We'll be rooting for all our TX, KS, AL, CA, IA favorites... ok, we're pretty much rooting for everyone to have a great event.

Go Riley Brenner from South Dakota!!!!!!

Just rip it my mullet brethren

Holy 123 points above his rating.

Looks like he's been practicing since his last rated rounds at Halloween. Looks like they've set up the ratings properly so that 1061 looks legit.

Who's Ownsby?? Where'd he come from? Great shooting! Hope he follows it up with a solid second round.

He must have had the round of a lifetime. He's got to be pumped right now. Like Tank after the first round at the USDGC last year, leading the rest of the world by 2 strokes. At least most of us knew who Tank was. This guy, that's nuts for a 938 rated player to have that kind of round in an NT. That would be something else to see him play well and stay up there towards the top.

Shane-O is a local here in BG. When I was told he was winning needless to say I was WHAT!?!?! REALLY!?!? Shane is a fantastic player, one of the best BG has, but I really did not know he had it in him to perform like this against the worlds best. Here's hoping he keeps it up. I have to be getting back to the course now. Lunch is over!

Something is amiss with the Ladies scores... :confused:

NONE of the top players names dont match properly w/ the stats or PDGA #'s...

I was also wondering about that. Does anyone know which is right? Name or PDGA Number?

I'm not affiliated with the event, but I would pretty much guarantee that the names are in the correct order and that the PDGA numbers/ratings are mixed up.

The names are correct. We can fix the numbers tonight.

Something is amiss with the Ladies scores... :confused:

NONE of the top players names dont match properly w/ the stats or PDGA #'s...



sorry about that...it's fixed now...names were in correct order, but PDGA#'s were mismatched...Nicole Frazer is leading.


Chap

PDGA number is correct in connection to the ratings. I suspect maybe someone sorted the womens division in the TD report and forgot to include their Name column in the sort. So all of the ratings should still be correct because those are brought in from the online PDGA database referencing the PDGA number. But the names come from the TD report (with occasional misspellings) versus the online PDGA database for unofficial score postings because everyone doesn't have a PDGA number.

Looks like they have another huge event going. We have a few Texans in the mix with Mike and Nolan Grider and Donald Ellsworth looking good in Open and a very good friend, Ron Silliman, tied for second in Masters. Do it you guys, we all know you can.
It's especcially nice to see Bob Vanderboss playing in the GMs. I'm a big fan of his and it's really nice to see him back out. Keep it up Bob, you are admired and respected all over the country.

Which courses were played Sat. by the Open Division ? (A.M. & P.M.)

www.gotimmurphy.com (http://www.gotimmurphy.com)

Pool A - Hobson then White. B pool opposite.

Was Shane wearing shoes today?

yes, he put the shoes on for this one, and he even left his dog at home.

How were the winds at Hobson yesterday for A-Pool? I played it a few times when I was in town for BG Ams it didn't seem like that hard a course (3 down is a 1000 rated round?). Sick winds and bad weather?

thought it was windy rainy nasty- looks the same way now- any frontline reports?
scores are up from this am and seems like the drama's in the women with val throwin a 1026 & nicole right there, the young guns showin up...
whats that a 9down for the champ at keriakes...? hohum lol

Please correct typo in McCabe's score for hole 1 in the Live scoring.

Thanks.

Looks like Feldberg is chasing down Barry so far.
www.pdga.com/tournament/live.php?TournID=7283&Div= (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/live.php?TournID=7283&Div=)

I don't know if thats chasing down... his lead has gone from 4 to 3 in 8 holes. At this rate he'll squeak it out.

At the time I posted, Feldberg had closed within two after just 5 holes. Then, they corrected Barry's score to 2 instead of 3 on hole 5.

Right now it looks like EMac has the only chance, two to go and two back!

The only chance until the final 9 maybe. Lots of golf left after this round.

Ah I forgot that there was a final 9 at the BG Open. My bad. :)

will there be live scoring for the final any any idea of what the holes will be like

Looks like there will be scoring as it has been reset for a Final 9. Not sure of the holes, though likely the same as last year I'd guess. If I could get DGTV to load I'd link you to last year's final 9 video.

I'm surpirsed there were five women in the Final 9. I thought NT and Championship policy was to break ties for the 4th position?

I know that that is how they did it for the Brent Hambrick Memorial Open a year ago. Interesting to see that Courtney came back from a bogey slip up on the first hole to take third place.

Nice win for the Ohioan, Val!

Congratulations to Bennett on his highest finish ever in an NT after a very slow start to the 2008 season at the Memorial! Along with, I believe, his first ever finish ahead of Climo in a tournament.

And nice win, of course, to Schultz. Another notch in the belt there.

-Chris.

Feldberg had 2nd placed almost sealed until the last hole when he was about to make that crucial putt and some [censored] comes strolling along the fairway. Completely broke Dave's concentration, and rythm. Needless to say he missed his putt. I offered to have some of us BG Boys beat that dude down but he declined.

Way to go E-Mac!
This guy is on fire this year. Goes to show you that karma counts for at least one stroke. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Congrats to E-Mac, Way to represent us Kansans! And of course hats off to all the winners as well! :)

Amazing comeback by E-Mac after tossing a 983 rated first round. I think he was in like, 58th place or something at that point. That's determination.

Way to go Sprout!

I'm surpirsed there were five women in the Final 9. I thought NT and Championship policy was to break ties for the 4th position?



First of all, there's no policy about having final nines. BG is one of the few NTs that still have a final 9. There is a rule on "reduction of field size." BG chose to cut to the top 4 PLACES, not top 4 players. This was also done at Women's Nationals in 2005 and 2006, so there is precedent.

Chap

So, Women's policy is different from Men's? I read the policy and there's no option to cut to places versus players. It does allow TD discretion on numbers. However, I was under perhaps the false impression that the NT and Championships had consistent policies across the board on cuts even if not followed in lower tiers.

So, Women's policy is different from Men's? I read the policy and there's no option to cut to places versus players. It does allow TD discretion on numbers. However, I was under perhaps the false impression that the NT and Championships had consistent policies across the board on cuts even if not followed in lower tiers.




I say it is better they try to break the tie over 9 holes.

Don't care what the policy is. Just thought the idea for our top events was to at least be consistent. If four players were tied for forth, would you have all seven play 9 holes to break the tie?

Don't care what the policy is. Just thought the idea for our top events was to at least be consistent. If four players were tied for forth, would you have all seven play 9 holes to break the tie?



Nope!

the Comp Manual says nothing about using players or places to determine how to reduce the fiel, so each NT can choose how to do this, if they cut at all. BG chose places. Since 5 women occupied the top 4 places, 5 women made the final. Since 4 men occupied the top 4 places in Open, 4 men made the final.

I'd even be fine if it was somewhere between always allowing tied players to play or always playing it off by saying something like if just two are tied for 4th then no playoff but if more than two are tied, then play it off to get down to either 5 or just 4. Seems like that tweener approach would allow more tied players to play final 9s but not become unwieldy with more than 5. After all, we allow groups up to 5 for regular play.

I know as a player I would rather have a 9 hole playoff for 4th rather than a one hole playoff.

I think we need to copy our cousin golf in some majors. I would like to see more 3 hole total score playoffs than sudden death playoffs, personally.

Presuming the TD followed this rule in advance by saying tiebreakers wouldn't be used, then the policy would have been to allow all tied for fourth to play in the Final 9. No problem unless three or four were tied for 4th. That's why the policy indicates tiebreakers be used unless TD is willing to allow potentially large Final 9 groups should that happen.

B. Unless announced in advance by the Tournament Director all ties for a semi final or final cut will be broken by the use of a tiebreaker

I'd even be fine if it was somewhere between always allowing tied players to play or always playing it off by saying something like if just two are tied for 4th then no playoff but if more than two are tied, then play it off to get down to either 5 or just 4. Seems like that tweener approach would allow more tied players to play final 9s but not become unwieldy with more than 5. After all, we allow groups up to 5 for regular play.

I agree 100%.

I solved that problem by saying, Top 3 + Ties. Lowers the odds of too many players. Also goes faster.

wow, nobody congratulated Val on a smoking third round. Am I the only one who noticed? a 47 to go from 1 back to 7 up!

Her 47 was the hot round of all the Open, Masters, and GM in the B pool. Most local guys around here cant shoot 47 at Lovers Lane. Heck, I average either -4 or -5 out there.

wow, nobody congratulated Val on a smoking third round. Am I the only one who noticed? a 47 to go from 1 back to 7 up!



<font color="purple">You said it man. 47 is such a hot score, especially for the weather! It was really windy and super cold! She was shooting like the superstar that she is! I saw her mangle every piece of the chains on hole 16 at Lovers for a spit out ace.

Congrats to You miss Valarie! </font>

Local news in BG had a segment on top two places in final nine for men and women this morning. It was the second story just behind PGA Masters. Sure was nice to see. Thanks to the women who gave my 12 year old daughter encouragement as we watched from hole #1 at Keriakes during the 4th round. She has been bit hard by the golf bug.

You can view this story on WBKO.com under the sports heading. They have a video of it there.

Great job Bowling Green Team. Tough conditions all weekend and you can't do much about the weather, but move a little further into Spring/Summer. Some great hospitality and awesome rounds out there none the less.

Val's 47 was truly fantastic with an ace chain out no less. Her 1027 could have at least been a 1032 if played in the afternoon even though it was same conditions.

I will assume Chuck has some work to do on the Ratings and it could be the Open Pool B scores added in that are the clouding factor.

The round of 47 that Barry and E-Mac shot at White in that wind was spectacular. The 1069 hardly gives it justice when you think that a 43 is the perfect round and most likely only doable under perfect conditions. We had no where close to even decent conditions out there which makes their scores nutty good.

To the Bat Mobile Chuck...................... ;)

The NT Clinic Series saw over 50 folks show up for a great clinic with Feldberg, A Jenkins and the Readings.

We also had over 100 spectator raffle tickets turned in on a very shaky weather day. Impressive!

Thanks to Josh and The Cellar in downtown Bowling Green for sponsoring the clinic. Treat your sweetie to a first class meal down there. Innova Champion sponsored the Spectator Raffle with included premium plastic, bag of discs and a Traveler basket.

All rounds on the same layout are now automatically combined to calculate ratings UNLESS the TD sets them up as separate layouts in the TD report because they need to be separate due to different conditions morning versus afternoon. A 5-pt difference is too small to determine whether random variance or actual wind difference caused it. So, my thought would be that the rounds be combined.

All rounds on the same layout are now automatically combined to calculate ratings UNLESS the TD sets them up as separate layouts in the TD report because they need to be separate due to different conditions morning versus afternoon. A 5-pt difference is too small to determine whether random variance or actual wind difference caused it. So, my thought would be that the rounds be combined.



I agree.

The temporary ratings will be a little screwed up for the Saturday rounds, because some people switched pools for Sunday, but the Sunday rounds (rounds 3 and 4) should be nails on. 1027-1032...either way it's an awesome round.

Chap

I think there should be differences between the ratings of rounds on Sunday. Pete Caldwell was in the B pool and we talked about the difference in conditions. The second round of the day had worse weather and harder conditions to play in than the first, so there should be a difference in ratings of the same score if played in the morning or afternoon. Val's 47 is hot, but a 47 in the afternoon should have been rated higher. Now on the other hand the afternoon round for the B-pool should have a slightly higher rating for a similar score in the morning round.

Actually, I disagree. Lovers is more open, and you feel the effects more at Lovers than at Kereiakes. I think the conditions both rounds were pretty equally miserable.

Chap

I think the conditions both rounds were pretty equally miserable.


WORD!

So the worse weather happened in the 2nd round. Agree? And we both agree the weather would affect the scores at Lovers more than at Keriakes. than in that case than Val's 47 in the morning should be rated a little less than a 47 in the afternoon. ???

Looks like the ratings changed a little bit...

The weather for R4 was definately awful at Lovers.

Anyways, thanks to the BG Staff for running a smooth event.

Way to go Valarie. Now get your bro up there with ya!