ztowndown07
Dec 20 2007, 08:22 PM
Ok instead of concrete tee pads why not have natural tee's and use cleets for traction? It would save lots of money for courses and on the expense of buying shoes every 3-4 months. Plus it would be much safer.

Its like this you have your shoes designed for concrete, for driving but if your in grass you dont have the traction. but if you wear cleets you cant use the concrete but your shots from the grass will have more traction. Plus in the rain you will not be sliping and sliding as much.

I think we need to decide and play disc golf with cleets like all other professional sports that are outside in the grass and woods.
We got baseball,football,soccerball,M.T.A., field hockey, golf, rugby, just to name a few.

Perhaps this is what this sport needs some cool nike commercials and more traction.

curt
Dec 20 2007, 08:30 PM
I play on many courses that have natural tees, yet cleats have not become widespread at these locations. Leading me to wonder why not, if cleats are the logical solution, simply because all other sports do.

I would argue that the motion of disc golf is significantly different than any other sport using cleats. In all the sports listed players use cleats to make cuts (except for golf), and each sport designs cleats different base on the types of cuts made.

Ball golfers' motion is also different from disc golfers. In ball golf players are trying to move their feet as little as possible, their cleats help in this purpose.

Disc golf potion is quite different. Pivoting on the ball of one's foot is an integral part of the motion. Using cleats will prohibit (or at least drastically reduce) the amount to which one can pivot on their foot. If you do this rotation without the follow through of the rotation (which cleats would cause) then you will quickly destroy your knees. That joint is not made to be rotated in such a manner.

xterramatt
Dec 20 2007, 09:28 PM
Plus if you land on adverse terrain - in the rocks, water, gravel, there's no advantage to cleats, in fact they could be much more of a nuisance. Balance is paramount in disc golf, there are many times when I would be annoyed by cleats more than I feel I would benefit from them. But that's just me.

cbdiscpimp
Dec 20 2007, 10:12 PM
Disc golf potion is quite different. Pivoting on the ball of one's foot is an integral part of the motion. Using cleats will prohibit (or at least drastically reduce) the amount to which one can pivot on their foot. If you do this rotation without the follow through of the rotation (which cleats would cause) then you will quickly destroy your knees. That joint is not made to be rotated in such a manner.



To be completely honest and truthful you want to be pivoting on your HEEL!!! Either way cleats prevent the pivot and destroy your knee and or leg!!! Plus it decreases your transfer of energy...........The cleat grips and you cant transfer that energy threw to your shot because your foot is not allowed to pivot and let you follow threw!!! Ive worn cleats before and they actually put ALOT of stress on my plant foot ankle and knee to the point where I am hurting for days after playing in cleats..........So I just wear a nice pair of shoes with a decent sole and that works just fine for me.

CRUISER
Dec 20 2007, 10:40 PM
If I had to wear cleats to play, my knee would seperate itself from my leg, jump up and b*t*ch slap me, and run away flipping me off with the last bit of ACL I had left.

Edit: And it would hurt really bad.

MCOP
Dec 21 2007, 09:44 AM
I use baseball shoes quiet often on a couple of our more natural courses. The right shows don't dig in to much, and make traction fine.

mikeP
Dec 21 2007, 10:23 AM
My guess is that if everybody was wearing cleats, natural teepads would end up being mud pits. Even NFL prescription turf has a hard time holding up in winter conditions (rain, snow), let alone whatever happens to cover the ground on most DG courses.

deathbypar
Dec 21 2007, 12:03 PM
To be completely honest and truthful you want to be pivoting on your HEEL!!!



Is this true?

michaeljo
Dec 21 2007, 01:03 PM
some poeple defintely pivot of off their heel, but it is not the end all of pivot points, i pivot closer to the ball of my foot

mikeP
Dec 21 2007, 01:08 PM
To be completely honest and truthful you want to be pivoting on your HEEL!!!



Is this true?



I start my pivot on my forefoot and end on my heel, so I guess I pivot my whole foot. If you start on your heels then your center of gravity is likely to get behind your momentum.

anita
Dec 21 2007, 11:02 PM
Cleats have their purpose, and that purpose is when it is sloppy time wet. I wore cleats during a tournament in a heavy rain. I actually HAD footing while everyone else was slipping all over the place.

Most of the time, they give too much traction and are useless on rocky surfaces. However, when there is NO traction to be had, they will provide it.

Greg_R
Dec 26 2007, 06:57 PM
Is this true?

Heel pivoting can lead to a better transfer of power but it is _very_ rough on your knees and ankles. Pivoting on the ball of your foot gives the leg multiple locations where it can flex (and absorb some of the shock of the plant).

eveidel
Dec 27 2007, 03:23 PM
I agree with the use of spikes on wet sloppy terrain. To say we as disc golfers MUST wear spikes would hurt our sport. Numbers would decline because more and more people would be injured. This is supposed to be a lifetime sport if you play it right. The most unique thing about our sport is that there is no stereotype for our athletic ability. Some people look like they suck, but in fact rock our worlds on the course. Our sport is all about diversity, as well as any other. What makes our sport what it is... is a disc and a basket...simple, yet not at all easy. As Climo said, "a day to learn, a lifetime to master" Forcing players to wear spikes is the most obsurd idea on this forum.