Maybe this one has been asked before.....

I have two players that pre-regged. They also happen to have registered with the PDGA to become new members. Since they did it late in the year, they are considered members today, and all of next year. The problem is that they did not understand the difference between Open and Amateur. No bad remarks please, they did register!!

So they have pre-regged for my event and both are registered as pro players (Open and Master). One of them has only played one tournament and the other has not played any (I believe). They do not have ratings and have registered for intermediate and recreational in my tournament. Now since neither have a rating I don't have a problem letting them play these divisions. I have also talked to the PDGA office and was told that if the players contact them, they will correct them, however, before ratings, if you were registered as an open player, you could not play am. If you don't have a rating, I think you can fudge it and play int/rec, but what if they had signed up at the event and I discovered they were registered as open?

I am just assuming that since they don't have a rating, it is allowed for them to play rec/int, is that a valid assumption?

first thing to learn as a TD. do whatever the hell ya want. the PDGA never says no.

: ) :

If I were you what I'd do is

First, delete my post asking the question. [Actually I'd never have asked the question, but taking things as they are, I have and I'd delete it.]

Second, I would not notice that they signed up as pros until after the tournament was done.

Third, I'd suggest to them that they might want to get that all sorted out with the PDGA before the next tournament.

bruce is a lawyer, he can't be wrong. ;)

actually, that's the gist of what i would do too.

In case you guys did not read between the lines, that is what I intend to do, I just wanted to know what others would suggest and I guess I know...... ;)

If they don't have ratings, they can play any division that meets their age, gender and TDs approval.

If they don't have ratings, they can play any division that meets their age, gender and TDs approval.



Chuck, can you expand on the TD approval??

Thanks...

If players don't have ratings, it falls to the TD to allow a player to enter a particular division. For example, a TD may know a player enters Advanced in local leagues and does alright. But then he joins the PDGA and enters the Rec or Intermediate division. The TD could require the player to enter Advanced. It is also true that TDs can require non-members to play in certain divisions if they want to enter.

If a player is registered with the PDGA as a pro and has no rating, I contend that the per the current PDGA rules they are not allowed to compete in any Am division. :)

Based on what? A defacto assumption the player must have a rating above 954 because they joined up as a pro?

J. All bump rules in PDGA sanctioned events are invalid and not applicable. Players shall be allowed to play in any divisions they might be eligible for, if those divisions are offered by the Tournament Director.



Chuck-
If a player is a PDGA Amateur member without a rating. A TD cannot limit him to the Advanced division regardless of how good the TD thinks he is.

incorrect- the rule you cite is only referring to limiting their division based on regional bump rules- there is another spot (and i'm sure chuck can quote it) which allows the td to place unrated players wherever they (the td) sees fit.

Note the word "eligible" as in has a rating in that range. No rating, no default eligibility.

Based on what? A defacto assumption the player must have a rating above 954 because they joined up as a pro?



No assumption necessary: Since they have no rating, they aren't rated less than 955. :)