Do different colors make a difference in stability? Just curious?

Probably. I remember Green cyclones being the best ones back in 97

I would say no.
It could be true that when the disc is run, and what color it is run in, might be different than a disc run in a different color (later or earlier) and how it cools or other factors after it's run ... Might make the disc different from one color to another.
But I don't think the "color" makes the disc different. Flight differences have more to do with different production conditions.

At least this is my thought on the matter.

I was also curious if different colors cool differently when they are removed from the molds? If so does that difference in cooling effect the stability or shape of the disc (flat top, dome top, etc...)?

Franchise nailed it on the head. The colors affect the cooling time and that will cause the shape of the disc to be slightly differant.

It is not the color, it is the molding/cooling conditions. I believe some colors may cool differently enough to recognize the differences. Red Star always seem to be more stable. etc.

Examples Red fr surge, blue fr buzz!!!

Lol- beat me to it.
Also, its not just color- Its the environment in which the molding/cooling takes plastic.

I suggest going to an "ask Dave" thread and get the information from one of the experts.

Or you could go through the old posts where it has been discussed more than once. :cool:

the color itself has no effect, its when its run(time of year, who runs the discs, and how it cools(humidity)....i work with platic all day and this is aslo from erich at discraft.....

the color itself has no effect, its when its run(time of year, who runs the discs, and how it cools(humidity)....i work with platic all day and this is aslo from erich at discraft.....



I believe this for the most part, but I still think that there are exceptions. Dyes are chemicals. Different colors come from different compounds. Adding a considerable amount of dye (some plastics probably need more dye than others) to plastic has to have an effect on the way it cools, etc. I bring up this point because I have felt and thrown a lot of different plastic and I know some colors affect the surface texture of the disc. This has to also affect air resistance over the wing and ultimately flight. The two best examples of this I can think of is old Innova purple champion plastic. This dye would actually bleed on your hands. The discs were grippier than the other colors consistantly. Also this purple dye would deteriorate rapidly when exposed to UV (sun). The other example I can think of color affecting the way a disc feels is red star plastic. It always feels tackier than the other colors.

there is no dye....its color concentrate....plastic comes in pellets which are melted down and then molded. samegoes for the CC they just blend the color into the natural(Z,X, ESP) to create the colors.....

the only way i can see color having a major effect is if the LDR(let down ratio) is mixed incorrectly. colors are usually 50:1 or 25:1. if someone mixed the wrong amount i could see tthat making a disc fly differently....

I was told a while back I think by Dave D maybe last year even, that darker colors take a little longer to cool down causing the dome to flatten more. While lighter colors cool quicker causeing the dome to stay intact.
Of course they might have changed the cooldown prosess in order to make more consistant runs but its doubtful.

In the mean time I've heard conflicting reports on color stability. Like why are some runs of white and yellow star super stable like the last Destroyer run? Who knows.


Oh also I do know the wieght additive that Innova adds to the plastic effects the stability of the discs. You can tell at least in the champion plastic if it has the additive by the cloudy swirls. An example (from actual discs I used)would be 2 day glow lime starfires one new 174 with no additive and one 168 with the additive. The 168 one was more stable I think due to the concentration of the additive in the rim.

I wonder if the time of the year a disc is manufactured has any bearing here...Summer vs Winter?

I wonder if the time of the year a disc is manufactured has any bearing here...Summer vs Winter?



Maybe if the cool them down outside?...hahaha!

Humidity would effect the cooling process also.

California vs. Michigan

Am guessing there's some ambient temperature variances in the warehouse...perhaps not.


FWIW, I'm comfortable in my home in the upper 70s-lower 80s in Summer...and the mid 60s-lower 70s in Winter, a possible ~19-20 degree variance...but Kansas ain't sunny Cali (or yonder Michigan)!

Color can make a difference to the discs. If you are using one type of dry color (powder) in different colors, it probably won't make a difference which color you use unless you use large amounts of color. The more color used, the more likely it is to produce a difference in the disc. For concentrates or colors with carriers (plastic pellets); the carrier can make a difference especially if a lot of color is used. The carrier is a plastic that a concentrated pigment is put into to make color pellets. These pellets take the place of a certain amount of plastic and tend to adulterate it. If the loading percentage is 1%, it probably won't make a difference, but if it is much higher, like 4%, it certainly can. Different carriers can produce different effects also. Most of the effects are minor, but minor differences can produce differences in appearance, flight and feel for the discs.



From the Ask Dave D Thread....that is Dave's quote that is...

I agree with him..... :)