All SADC members can renew your PDGA membership through the club and receive $5.00 off. You can also take the PDGA Certified Officials Exam for FREE ($13.00 Value). :cool: WOW, total savings of $18.00. Please ignore any mailings or emails for PDGA Membership Renewals and renew through the club. Even if you are not a PDGA member and want to become one, we can still save you $5.00. I will have the renewal forms with me at minis or email me if you want one. Please turn in your renewal form and money back to me by December 27, 2007. Thanks again to everyone that has supported San Antonio Disc Golf. You guy's Roc!!! :)

Don't forget this membership too. :)


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You mean if I get into your ace pot you will only give me half the money for hitting a Ace then you should only charge half the price for getting into it /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

You mean if I get into your ace pot you will only give me half the money for hitting a Ace then you should only charge half the price for getting into it /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif



Either that or you could join the club, help disc golf in the area, help improve the course, help get benches and bridges out there, etc. and receive all the cash and have voting rights to change that policy if you don't like it. ;)

That or you could just not join the ace pot, it is optional.

Either way the choice is yours.

If you like I'll be more than happy to mail you a membership form, just PM your address.

You mean if I get into your ace pot you will only give me half the money for hitting a Ace then you should only charge half the price for getting into it /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif



We are trying to give the money back to the players who play the minis. How many times do you see or hear about a local clubs ace pot grow pretty big and some joker comes from outta town hits an ace and leaves with all YOUR money? You won't see him again untill it grows back up with YOUR money. This is just an idea I came up with and will or will not be in effect pending on voting from members early next year. I would pay $10.00 a year for a chance at all the Ace Pot.....It's like .83 cents a month. :eek:

The Ace Pot and Club Fund dollars ARE NOT optional.

Read this thread http://www.pdga.com/msgboard/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=686807&an=0&page=2#Post6 86807

Whoops my bad on the optional part. :o

Just so everyone's clear ... what happens in the this situatoin ...
Ace Pot = $300
Joe non-club member hits the ace for $150
What happens to the other $150? Does it go into the next Ace Pot?

What happens if Joe non-club member and Jane Club Member both it an Ace? Would $225 go to Jane and $75 got to Joe?

I say we award 100% Ace Pot Money to members or non-members if an ace is hit until we actually sit down and discuss club issues and rules.

Hmmmm so how does LODGA do it? No membership fee, You get into there Ace Pot you win 100 percent, they run nice mini's and tournements, they are always improve their U.C course with very little city, Their help out other disc golf clubs and best of all they help out local golfers who's family are in need all this without charging membership fee or taken half the Ace Pot money from you. A matter of fact I think some non members have won the ace pot before and just not half :p.

Go compare clubs somewhere else. It is your choice to join or not to join. Of course I am a member of the FREE Club and I am also a member of the $10.00 a year club (as with other members).

This is a brand new club for San Antonio and we will also run tournaments........Give it time.

It's the second San Antonio Disc Club, the first being LODGA :D

It's the second San Antonio Disc Club, the first being LODGA :D



Your right since most of lodga members are from SAN ANTONIO and Live Oak is SAN ANTONIO. :confused: :D

All SADC members can renew your PDGA membership through the club and receive $5.00 off. You can also take the PDGA Certified Officials Exam for FREE ($13.00 Value). :cool: WOW, total savings of $18.00. Please ignore any mailings or emails for PDGA Membership Renewals and renew through the club. Even if you are not a PDGA member and want to become one, we can still save you $5.00. I will have the renewal forms with me at minis or email me if you want one. Please turn in your renewal form and money back to me by December 27, 2007. Thanks again to everyone that has supported San Antonio Disc Golf. You guy's Roc!!! :)



Back to the subject. We will have the PDGA renewal forms at saturdays mini.

Hmmmm so how does LODGA do it? No membership fee, You get into there Ace Pot you win 100 percent, they run nice mini's and tournements, they are always improve their U.C course with very little city, Their help out other disc golf clubs and best of all they help out local golfers who's family are in need all this without charging membership fee or taken half the Ace Pot money from you. A matter of fact I think some non members have won the ace pot before and just not half :p.



That's great that you have an opinion. It is certainly valid. From my perspective I don't really see the comparison. LODGA is doing their thing and they do it great. I play in many of the minis and will continue to support them in whatever way I can. Of course that also doesn't mean there is only one way to do things. My experience and research has shown that a lot of clubs charge dues. It is a way to raise money for the cause and hopefully parlay that into member benefits. It doesn't mean any one way it right or wrong, they are just different ways of promoting a club.

Maybe its just me, and if that is the case then please disregard the following, but what is with all of the animosity between the LODGA and the San Antonio Disc Club? In my opinion it is ignorant, childish, and reeks of some high school clicks. I fail to understand why having 2 (and hopefully more) disc golf clubs in the San Antonio area is a bad thing. Why do people feel threatened by this? That means the game is growing, there are more courses. That is a good thing right? Look at the Austin area, they have at least three clubs if not more. That is a good thing. It spreads the work of maintaining a course and running the minis to multiple groups. That makes life easier on everyone. However I have personally felt like some people have started treating me differently, with animosity becuase I am now associated with the SADC. That's unfortunate. These 2 clubs can co-exist together and in fact they need each other to be successful. Maybe its just me, maybe I am paranoid. I sure hope so.
Note: The above comments are not directed any one person, just a general vibe.

It's the second San Antonio Disc Club, the first being LODGA :D



Your right since most of lodga members are from SAN ANTONIO and Live Oak is SAN ANTONIO. :confused: :D



Or San Antonio is trying to be another Live Oak :o:DIt was Live Oak who got San Antonio interested in the sports along with other surrounding city. and who got San Antoino their first Tournement about 5 years ago /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif :D

It was Live Oak who got San Antonio interested in the sports along with other surrounding city.



Not according to Brian: Post #644591 (http://www.pdga.com/msgboard/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=644372&an=0&page=0#Post6 44591).


I'm with Scott, why all the animosity? We're supposed to be working together to grow the sport, right?

Ok I should had said the first tournement hosted by San Antonio and the parks and rec. department :D

I am a member of both clubs and would like to see a coordinated effort towards a really big tournament like they have in other towns. Unless we all pull together and pull our resources and creativity we will never have what they have in Austin, Dallas, and Houston to put on a truly huge event. There needs to be some accountablility for the funds being raised. I have never been a member of a club that does not have a membership fee. I think officers and elections are a necessary thing. With them comes accountability. Not that everyone in either club is not doing a good job. But I feel that more people are represented when you have a board. That's just my opinion. I don't care what club you belong to - I belong to both. I love you guys - Jerry

Unless we all pull together and pull our resources and creativity we will never have what they have in Austin, Dallas, and Houston to put on a truly huge event.
I meant pool our resources.

I agree with many things people are saying and I know we have been through this before (the childish games of who's better). It's not a comparison, it's not which one I should be a part of, it's about working together. I try to show up to Lodga minis as much as I can. Can I play them all....No. This club is here!!! As much as you like it or don't like it......DEAL WITH IT!!! If you want to post your childish negative remarks, maybe you should read this http://www.pdga.com/msgboard/showflat.ph...e=0&fpart=1 (http://www.pdga.com/msgboard/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=ClubsGeneral&Number=69276 8&page=0&fpart=1) or this http://www.pdga.com/msgboard/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=623761&an=0&page=4#Post6 23761 before doing so. It was probably already said. :(

This is sooooooo stupid. :p

If I remember correctly, Shawn posted a suggestion some time back that maybe we could consider a central club with different chapters. The chapters would be to appease basically local governments. That part is another LONNNG story dealing in politics, beauracy, and other words that we as clubs have to deal with. I feel this is a viable suggestion, I also see the need for dues regardless of which format is taken.I play all the courses with the exception of Nani. Why drive 15 miles for 9 holes when I can play any of the courses nearer and less than 10 minutes away. Those being McLain, LO, and UC.

Hmmm. Interesting. I'm a SADC member and I don't play Nani, but I do play LO and UC. Oh yeah, thats right! I'm a LODGA member as well. Did I feel the slap in the face when COSA (City of San Antonio) refused to acknowledge LODGA members when McLain was finished? **** right I did. Am I smart enough to play their game in order to have even more facilities? **** right I am. If a group of golfers from UC decided to start their own club to advance the game and promote the course would I join? Hell yes.If LODGA wanted to start charging dues as well would I pay? Again yes.

Now I'll toot my own horn, I worked on holes at UC before I ever heard of LODGA, before I even played in the my first mini. My sole reason was to give something back. You know what I found? A bunch of other people doing it for the same **** reason! These are the same people that make and will continue to make BOTH clubs great. It's not about LODGA or SADC or ABCDEFG ........ITS ABOUT A GAME! These are the people that I want to hang with, these are the people that matter. If this isn't at least one or two on your list, do us all a favor don't join either club.
That being said, If you are offended by my post you are probaly one of those people. Now you can criticize me all you wish, I won't respond. If you agree with me lets share some ideas and go chunk some plastic. If you aren't sure, lets go chunk anyway, maybe I can help you make a committment.

RK
You are 120% correct!

It's not about LODGA or SADC or ABCDEFG ........ITS ABOUT A GAME!



Well said GROG!!! You are right, the part I quoted you saying IS what it's all about. :cool:

Have a Happy Thanksgiving everyone. Stacey and I will be gambling on the Texas Treasure tomorrow and eating our Thanksgiving meal at sea. :)

I am a member of both clubs and would like to see a coordinated effort towards a really big tournament like they have in other towns. Unless we all pull together and pull our resources and creativity we will never have what they have in Austin, Dallas, and Houston to put on a truly huge event. There needs to be some accountablility for the funds being raised. I have never been a member of a club that does not have a membership fee. I think officers and elections are a necessary thing. With them comes accountability. Not that everyone in either club is not doing a good job. But I feel that more people are represented when you have a board. That's just my opinion. I don't care what club you belong to - I belong to both. I love you guys - Jerry



Jerry's 100% right. I think we are tracking towards a December/January meeting of people who are members of SADC and those who wish to join. We should probably get an agenda of things to discuss, decisions to make, etc. That will be the first step. Since I prety much run large meetings for a living, I'll volunteer to organize the meeting. If you have any suggestions for topics you'd like to get onto the agenda, send them my way. Either on the board, via PM, or email will work. [email protected]

I'll post an draft/work in progress agenda soon.

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If I remember correctly, Shawn posted a suggestion some time back that maybe we could consider a central club with different chapters. The chapters would be to appease basically local governments. That part is another LONNNG story dealing in politics, beauracy, and other words that we as clubs have to deal with. I feel this is a viable suggestion, I also see the need for dues regardless of which format is taken.I play all the courses with the exception of Nani. Why drive 15 miles for 9 holes when I can play any of the courses nearer and less than 10 minutes away. Those being McLain, LO, and UC.

Hmmm. Interesting. I'm a SADC member and I don't play Nani, but I do play LO and UC. Oh yeah, thats right! I'm a LODGA member as well. Did I feel the slap in the face when COSA (City of San Antonio) refused to acknowledge LODGA members when McLain was finished? **** right I did. Am I smart enough to play their game in order to have even more facilities? **** right I am. If a group of golfers from UC decided to start their own club to advance the game and promote the course would I join? Hell yes.If LODGA wanted to start charging dues as well would I pay? Again yes.

Now I'll toot my own horn, I worked on holes at UC before I ever heard of LODGA, before I even played in the my first mini. My sole reason was to give something back. You know what I found? A bunch of other people doing it for the same **** reason! These are the same people that make and will continue to make BOTH clubs great. It's not about LODGA or SADC or ABCDEFG ........ITS ABOUT A GAME! These are the people that I want to hang with, these are the people that matter. If this isn't at least one or two on your list, do us all a favor don't join either club.
That being said, If you are offended by my post you are probaly one of those people. Now you can criticize me all you wish, I won't respond. If you agree with me lets share some ideas and go chunk some plastic. If you aren't sure, lets go chunk anyway, maybe I can help you make a committment.



Now that's what I was talking about without LODGA we would not even be close to where we are today dont cast out LODGA with the old dish water builded for it, add chapter to it and be proud of what we have acommplished. All area Disc Golfer's has a little LODGA in them. Let's build from the foundation that was given to us by others. LODGA Northside San Antonio Chapter. :D

I think Shawn has an excellent idea. LODGA could still be LODGA, South Texas Disc Golf Chapter (or whatever it would be called) the same with SADC, or what ever name Gonzales, Boerne, Cibolo etc would choose for their affiliate name. We need to save the politics for dealing with the different Parks Departments. Not every city has a some one on board like Live Oak did for years. If it hadn't been for the two Joes who knows where any of us would be. Prince Solms? (shudder)

If it weren't for the 2 Joes who knows where Live Oak would be right now. I do believe that "B Schmidt" deserves alot of credit for the state of disc golf in this area. I think we need a united effort to save or relocate the holes we are getting ready to lose at both Live Oak & UC. In the past "B", Shawn Hess, Tracy, RT, Hughey and others have taken it upon their selves to do such work. Just as Bird,Scott, Geoff & others have taken on McClain. Wouldn't it be sweet instead of petty of crap we could pull together and make this area a golf meca!!!
Later - Jerry.

My apologies to Mr Lively and Mr Schmidt. There was no intention to snub Brian as I was referring to people who were employed by one of the cities we play in. I never knew Brian that well, I saw him at minis and occasionally while he was out playing recreationally, he was always a gentleman.

"Wouldn't it be sweet instead of petty of crap we could pull together and make this area a golf meca!!!"

Ok, on to the meat of the matter. Like Brian I have 2 priorites in front of my love for disc golf and both are related to family, my job that feeds and houses them, and my grandkids, of which I'm too young to be a grandpa!

Most of you barely know me, I'm crass, crude, and rude sometimes but if you need some one to cover your back I'll be there, because when I need someone to cover mine I'm calling one of you. I said it once before the people who are giving back are the people I want to hang with. This includes you Jerry! :D

Whoa !!! Whoa !!! Whoa !! Nobody owes me an apology for anything, I've done nothing other than express my opinion. I 've seen a lot of people put in a lot of work & just think they all need praise. My remarks are not meant for anyone in particular.I just don't want to see everyones hard work go down the drain. I think there is too much talent, creativity, vision, wisdom & pride in this area to squabble over . Together we could all create a truly awesome thing!!! That's just the ramblings of a drunk old man & all they have ever been. Just my opinion, not meant to offend. Let's just have fun! Love ya, Jerry

It wasnt my intention to seem offended, I was actually being a wise [censored], and emotions from a rough week took over it seems. Unfortunately in retrospect it came out that I was offended, and I'm not. I have found very little to disagree with in anything you have posted. Though disagree we will sooner or later but we'll get through it. Seems too often that we walk on egg shells when it comes to clubs.

The nitty gritty is that Brian did what he did for love of the game, should we expect nothing less of ourselves? Let's not dwell on what has happened, let's move forward. We have lots of work to do in the clubs and lots of golf to play.

My apologies to all, especially Jerry if I came across offended, I'm actually fired up and ready to help move disc golf forward in San Antonio this is an exciting time for us. :D

We also need to channel some energy back to LO and UC to assure we will have those courses to play on. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the mayor of UC somewhat anti disc golf.

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the mayor of UC somewhat anti disc golf.



:mad:

Well let's take him out for 18 holes. I've yet to have anyone not want to go back for more. Maybe gator or some one else paying UC taxes would like to try.

Before you say I'm crazy and beleive me I am, remember they laughed at Columbus, The Wright Brothers, and Iggy Stankweed.

Then maybe some one should invite him for a round. Any one paying taxes in UC up for that? Every noobie I've taken out to play has come back for more.

Before anyone says I'm crazy, and I am, remeber they laughed at Columbus, the Wright Bothers, and Igmar Stankweed.

I believe it is the Mayor of Live Oak who is anti disc golf. He voted against it when it was first brought up. Thankfully the city council approved it. Vote Joe Painter for Mayor in the next election! UC has always been supportive and have provided an additional 40 acres for new holes to be cut. These need to be done soon as they will be pulling out the front holes.

Time to put the animosity aside and be thankful for the disc golf courses we have. Please take care of them!

How many and which holes are they pulling?

Brian P is working on it, I gave him the UC contact #s Friday.

Thanks for correcting me Brian. No animosity here. So now we need to invite the Mayor of LO for a round. As for Joe I plan to write him in for the presidential election.

40 acres! What? No mule?

That's more than three holes worth. Does UC have a plan where we may be losing more holes? If so maybe the 2 clubs should get together soon and work on a long term plan. This way more people will be informed that holes will be moving and the city doesn't come off looking like the bad guys to the DG community.

Does anyone know a contact a UC that we can work with? This is what we are about.

AMEN BROTHER!!!! :D:D:D

All SADC members can renew your PDGA membership through the club and receive $5.00 off. You can also take the PDGA Certified Officials Exam for FREE ($13.00 Value). :cool: WOW, total savings of $18.00. Please ignore any mailings or emails for PDGA Membership Renewals and renew through the club. Even if you are not a PDGA member and want to become one, we can still save you $5.00. I will have the renewal forms with me at minis or email me if you want one. Please turn in your renewal form and money back to me by December 27, 2007. Thanks again to everyone that has supported San Antonio Disc Golf. You guy's Roc!!! :)



Again, I will have the PDGA renewal forms with me at this Saturday's Mini.

PDGA Membership Costs:

$50.00 Am With Magazine
$40.00 Am Without Magazine
$25.00 Junior (Am Born 1992 or Later, Includes Magazine)
$75.00 Pro With Magazine
$65.00 Without Magazine

Letting everyone know the costs in case you want to bring the money this Saturday. The costs listed above are before your $5.00 Club Discount so remember to subtract from that. :cool: Also remember even if you are not currently a PDGA Member, you can still take advantage of the Club Discount. :) See everyone on Saturday. :cool:

All SADC members can renew your PDGA membership through the club and receive $5.00 off. You can also take the PDGA Certified Officials Exam for FREE ($13.00 Value). :cool: WOW, total savings of $18.00. Please ignore any mailings or emails for PDGA Membership Renewals and renew through the club. Even if you are not a PDGA member and want to become one, we can still save you $5.00. I will have the renewal forms with me at minis or email me if you want one. Please turn in your renewal form and money back to me by December 27, 2007. Thanks again to everyone that has supported San Antonio Disc Golf. You guy's Roc!!! :)



Don't forget, if you all are interested in taking advantage of the renewal discounts I will need all forms and money by next Thursday. Bring it to the mini on Saturday.

This Saturday will be your last chance to renew your PDGA Membership through the club and take advantage of the savings. I will have the forms available then. If you are paying with a check, you need to make it out to me (Orlando Pereida) so I can deposit the money into my account and pay the PDGA with a credit card. Don't forget to check the box for your FREE PDGA Certified Officials Exam. :o:cool: See you tomorrow. You can still renew if you can get your money to me by 12-27-07.

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PDGA Membership Costs:

$50.00 Am With Magazine
$40.00 Am Without Magazine
$25.00 Junior (Am Born 1992 or Later, Includes Magazine)
$75.00 Pro With Magazine
$65.00 Without Magazine

Letting everyone know the costs in case you want to bring the money this Saturday. The costs listed above are before your $5.00 Club Discount so remember to subtract from that. Also remember even if you are not currently a PDGA Member, you can still take advantage of the Club Discount. See everyone on Saturday.

Stacey will also have the 2009 PDGA Affiliate Club Program Discount Package tomorrow if anyone want's to join (or Re-new) the PDGA. You get -$5.00 off PDGA Membership Fees and you get to take the Certified Officials Test ($10.00) for FREE. Save $15.00 by joining the PDGA through SADC.

Costs before discount:

Pro $75.00
Am $50.00
Junior $25.00 (Am born 1993 or later)
There are also family discounts available.

I was wondering when PDGA was going to be wanting their money.

Stacey will also have the 2009 PDGA Affiliate Club Program Discount Package tomorrow if anyone want's to join (or Re-new) the PDGA. You get -$5.00 off PDGA Membership Fees and you get to take the Certified Officials Test ($10.00) for FREE. Save $15.00 by joining the PDGA through SADC.

Costs before discount:

Pro $75.00
Am $50.00
Junior $25.00 (Am born 1993 or later)
There are also family discounts available.



ARE WE TOO LATE FOR THIS!

Stacey will also have the 2009 PDGA Affiliate Club Program Discount Package tomorrow if anyone want's to join (or Re-new) the PDGA. You get -$5.00 off PDGA Membership Fees and you get to take the Certified Officials Test ($10.00) for FREE. Save $15.00 by joining the PDGA through SADC.

Costs before discount:

Pro $75.00
Am $50.00
Junior $25.00 (Am born 1993 or later)
There are also family discounts available.



ARE WE TOO LATE FOR THIS!



It's never too late. I am taking the lead on the PDGA Mermbership drive and I admit i have been slacking a little. So far we have Greg, Stacey and I renewing through the club. I will have forms at this Saturdays' McClain Mini and also at the UC Mini on Sunday if anyone wants to renew. I will also have some SADC Bag Tags with me that all Members get FREE with your $10.00 annual fee. Spread the word....let's get over 200 members this year. :o