JHBlader86
Nov 08 2007, 04:37 PM
Might as well just compare all the discs!
Boneman
Nov 08 2007, 05:39 PM
Ha ... I was going to say something about this ... you beat me to it.
I have one suggestion for those looking to compare discs ... I find this guide helpful when looking to compare one disc to another ... but then it doesn't talk back and give you all kinds of silly recommendations like you get there, LOL ;)
Disc Golf Flightguide (http://marshallstreetdiscgolf.com/disc_golf_flightguide.html)
DreaminTree
Nov 08 2007, 05:55 PM
IMO
Orc = Crush
Firebird = Predator
TeeRex = ESP Pulse or FLX Surge
Valkyrie = Flash (Closest I've tried, faster and probably less stable)
Leopard = XL
Cobra = Meteor
Gator = Drone
no more threads?
JHBlader86
Nov 08 2007, 06:07 PM
IMO
Orc = Crush
Firebird = Predator
TeeRex = ESP Pulse or FLX Surge
Valkyrie = Flash (Closest I've tried, faster and probably less stable)
Leopard = XL
Cobra = Meteor
Gator = Drone
no more threads?
Well we've still got to find comparisons for the following...
Archangel, Beast, Destroyer, Dragon, FL, Max, Monster, Roadrunner, SL, Starfire, Viking, Wraith, Banshee, Cheetah, Eagle, Gazelle, TL, Viper, Whippet, Whippet-X,, Coyote, Cro, Kite, Panther, Roc, Skeeter, Stingray, Wolf, Aero, Birdie, Goblin, Hydra, Classic Roc, Polecat, Sonic and XD.
And this isnt including all the discontinued discs either!
lien83
Nov 08 2007, 06:58 PM
Birdie=?
dgdave
Nov 08 2007, 07:22 PM
birdie=rattler
jaymo
Nov 09 2007, 03:19 AM
polecat = rattler (or old birdie: Pre thumbtrack)
lien83
Nov 09 2007, 11:10 AM
thanks :D:D:D
Jamruss
Nov 09 2007, 07:07 PM
I asked a Discraft sponsored guy what the closest equivilent to a Star Wraith was and he told me to try an ESP Surge.
ChrisEads
Feb 15 2008, 02:42 PM
What does the starfire X fly like? Ive never even heard of one until I saw it on a website today.
accidentalROLLER
Feb 15 2008, 02:55 PM
Predator
discraft_elite
Feb 15 2008, 11:16 PM
I've been waiting for this thread for awhile. I actually thought that there was something already out there, but I was even too lazy to do a search for it.
Anyways, I throw exclusively Discraft, and it is annoying when somebody says "yea, a wraith is a good choice on this hole" and not knowing what that would translate into Discraft. I many not throw that same equivalent (for each player is different) but it would give me a better frame of reference.
If others post with equivalents, I will try and maintain a spreadsheet with the information on it. Granted I have no place to post it online, but if anybody would want it, they could have it.
Drew32
Feb 16 2008, 12:12 AM
A Starfire-X flies like a slower Teerex (Old Mold)
A Starfire flies like slower Wraith
And a Starfire-L Flies like a slower beat Wraith
You cant compair it to a Firebird as it has more glide and is less wind resistant than a Firebird
Hopefully Landon will chime in since he's the resident Innova/Discraft guy here in Lexington :D
thetruthxl
Feb 16 2008, 11:52 AM
starfireX is a faster tbird.
the firebird and the pred do not match up...yes they are both overstable, but the pred unless talking about max vs lighter weights don't have the glide. the flick is closer to the fb than the pred.
The closest thing to a max tb is an esp avenger(I throw a 172 and it is closest to the max weight tb.)
the esp tracker is also a good tb at lower speeds.
the closest thing to a star wraith is an x avenger.
same d, tighter flight pattern.
Big E
Feb 16 2008, 02:49 PM
starfireX is a faster tbird.
the firebird and the pred do not match up...yes they are both overstable, but the pred unless talking about max vs lighter weights don't have the glide. the flick is closer to the fb than the pred.
The closest thing to a max tb is an esp avenger(I throw a 172 and it is closest to the max weight tb.)
the esp tracker is also a good tb at lower speeds.
the closest thing to a star wraith is an x avenger.
same d, tighter flight pattern.
As a former Innova throwe rI agree with the above! I love the esp Avenger and the Z flash those disc's are money!
accidentalROLLER
Feb 16 2008, 02:51 PM
I've been waiting for this thread for awhile. I actually thought that there was something already out there, but I was even too lazy to do a search for it.
Anyways, I throw exclusively Discraft, and it is annoying when somebody says "yea, a wraith is a good choice on this hole" and not knowing what that would translate into Discraft. I many not throw that same equivalent (for each player is different) but it would give me a better frame of reference.
If others post with equivalents, I will try and maintain a spreadsheet with the information on it. Granted I have no place to post it online, but if anybody would want it, they could have it.
I know what you're saying. I have a mixed bag. But here's what to remember.....throw your shot, not someone else's.
But, here's my opinion of Innova to Discraft:
Wraith=Rogue, or Spectra
Teerex=Surge, (or Pulse, but I've never thrown one)
Destroyer=Venom
Sidewinder=Avenger SS
Beast=Flash
Orc=Crush (or beat pred or tsunami)
Starfire-X=Predator (except preds are way better)
Viking=Wildcat
Valkyrie=XS
Monster=Flick (sort-of)
Firebird=Xtreme (sort-of)
Teebird, TL=nothing, to be honest (beat avengers or tsunamis, but they are both faster, or a Z-Wildcat, or a Talon)
Banshee=Tracker (at least the ones I've thrown)
Eagle=beat tracker, or Wildcat
Leopard=XL
Stingray=Stratus, or Beat glide
Cheetah=Glide
Gator-X=Drone
Roc=Wasp, Buzzz
Beat Roc=Meteor (sort-of)
Kite=Beat Meteor
Cobra=???Hawk maybe
Gremlin=Torque
Ont. Roc=Comet (actually nothing flies like a Comet!)
Rhyno=Banger (not really)
KC Aviar=Beat Banger
Beadless Aviar=challenger
These are just my opinions, I'm sure others will differ slightly. Plus with both discraft and innova, stabilities vary quite a bit for different plastics. You'd really have to experiment to see what discs match your throwing style.
discraft_elite
Feb 17 2008, 10:45 PM
Thanks guys! I have my spreadsheet started, and will continually keep it updated / modified. If anybody has a place that they could upload it for others to view, let me know.
DeMagnet
Feb 17 2008, 11:22 PM
the starfire-x is nothing like a teebird! The starfire-x is far faster and far more stable. The teebird is a modified eagle mold made to be more stable and in my opinion the one of the most reliable discs ever made. The talon would probably be closest to a teebird.
I hope this helps.
Jeff_Peters
Feb 18 2008, 02:10 PM
...the firebird and the pred do not match up...yes they are both overstable, but the pred unless talking about max vs lighter weights don't have the glide...
2nd
gokayaksteven
Feb 18 2008, 05:25 PM
the pred has more speed and glide than a firebird.
thetruthxl
Feb 18 2008, 05:29 PM
after two pages... no one has been able to come up with a comparison to the Innova Ram. Most player have to carry 2-3 discs to support the magic the Ram produces.
:D
accidentalROLLER
Feb 18 2008, 05:35 PM
after two pages... no one has been able to come up with a comparison to the Innova Ram. Most player have to carry 2-3 discs to support the magic the Ram produces.
:D
Discraft doesn't make a round cinder block. :p
gokayaksteven
Feb 18 2008, 05:35 PM
please explain
my_hero
Feb 18 2008, 05:41 PM
after two pages... no one has been able to come up with a comparison to the Innova Ram. Most player have to carry 2-3 discs to support the magic the Ram produces.
:D
Discraft doesn't make a round cinder block. :p
(coming from an old Ram lover) The Xtreme mold was close enough for me. Same type cinderblock effect. One Z-Xtreme will last 50x longer than any of the old school Rams. Now, a Ram in Z/Champion would be sweet.
mikeP
Feb 19 2008, 10:49 AM
the starfire-x is nothing like a teebird! The starfire-x is far faster and far more stable. The teebird is a modified eagle mold made to be more stable and in my opinion the one of the most reliable discs ever made. The talon would probably be closest to a teebird.
I hope this helps.
Starfire X is exactly a faster Teebird. Sure it has more LSS because of the speed, but when thrown hard it has a similar flightpath.
mikeP
Feb 19 2008, 10:50 AM
the pred has more speed and glide than a firebird.
The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth! :D
poisonelf
Feb 19 2008, 01:19 PM
Aviar--D Magnet
Aviar Driver-D Challenger
Archangel-XS
Banshee-Xtra
Beast-Z Flash
Cheetah-X Cyclone
Classic Roc-Hawk
Cobra-Storm
Coyote-Impact
Cro-Torque/Shockwave
Destroyer-nothing
Eagle E-Z Cyclone
Eagle-ESP Tracker
FL-Z Avenger
Firebird-Predator
Gator-FLX Drone
Gazelle-Z XL
Gremlin-MRV
Leopard-Xpress
Kite-Glide
Max-Venom
Monster-Flick
Orc-ESP Flash
Panther-Meteor
Ram-Xtreme
Rhyno-nothing
Roadrunner-Slipstream
Roc-Wasp
Shark-Buzzz
Sidewinder-Avenger SS
Skeeter-Comet
SL-Z Surge
Spider-Hawk
Starfire-Z Crushes
Stingray-Stratus
TeeBird-Talon
TeeRex-FLX Surge
TL-ESP XL
Valkyrie-Wildcat
Viking-Tracker
Viper-D Drone
Whippet-Z Xtreme
Wolf-Breeze
Wraith-ESP Surge
the_kid
Feb 19 2008, 02:18 PM
Aviar--D Magnet
Aviar Driver-D Challenger
Archangel-XS
Banshee-Xtra
Beast-Z Flash
Cheetah-X Cyclone
Classic Roc-Hawk
Cobra-Storm
Coyote-Impact
Cro-Torque/Shockwave
Destroyer-nothing
Eagle E-Z Cyclone
Eagle-ESP Tracker
FL-Z Avenger
Firebird-Predator
Gator-FLX Drone
Gazelle-Z XL
Gremlin-MRV
Leopard-Xpress
Kite-Glide
Max-Venom
Monster-Flick
Orc-ESP Flash
Panther-Meteor
Ram-Xtreme
Rhyno-nothing
Roadrunner-Slipstream
Roc-Wasp
Shark-Buzzz
Sidewinder-Avenger SS
Skeeter-Comet
SL-Z Surge
Spider-Hawk
Starfire-Z Crushes
Stingray-Stratus
TeeBird-Talon
TeeRex-FLX Surge
TL-ESP XL
Valkyrie-Wildcat
Viking-Tracker
Viper-D Drone
Whippet-Z Xtreme
Wolf-Breeze
Wraith-ESP Surge
One thing about that made me laugh
"Roadrunner-Slipstream"
Slipstream- worst disc ever.
poisonelf
Feb 19 2008, 03:59 PM
I feel the same
halton
Feb 19 2008, 06:36 PM
No one has said anything about the devilhawk??!!??
poisonelf
Feb 19 2008, 06:40 PM
i cant wait for them to actually make a disc called that. It will sell like crazy
Chris Hysell
Feb 19 2008, 07:55 PM
No one has said anything about the devilhawk??!!??
The devilhawk is what made me come back to the game.
mikeP
Feb 20 2008, 10:33 AM
The Banger GT would be Discraft's Rhino.
eveidel
Feb 20 2008, 11:55 AM
gator---> FLX Drone? nuh uh, not gonna cut it, the Drone glides so much farther, this I know. But thats your opinion...
my_hero
Feb 20 2008, 12:40 PM
Aviar--D Magnet
I think the APX is much closer to the Aviar P&P.
poisonelf
Feb 20 2008, 12:52 PM
The drone is the only thing comparable to the gator in the discraft line up. nuff' said
gokayaksteven
Feb 20 2008, 04:39 PM
because people are sick of wasting time on that played-out joke. give it a rest already.
JDesrosier
Feb 20 2008, 08:28 PM
Aviar--D Magnet
I think the APX is much closer to the Aviar P&P.
I am not familiar on how the apx flies, but today I purchased a pro d magnet for the first time, and so far I have made alot of putts from inside 25. I think it is different than the aviar p&a, but a great disc at that! :D