After watching the USDGC from my laptop in my living room, I wondered what it would have been like to watch Ken post a sick 56 in the third round, and then do it again the next day! It got me thinking about what it is like to watch anyone shoot off the hook and surpass the field. In my opinion, Ken's performance in the third round (more so than in the fourth for some reason) was the most impressive round in 2007, considering the weight of the event and difficulty of the course. In your opinion, what was the most impressive round shot in 2007 and why?

I watched both rounds.

Ken was disgustingly consistent under pressure, Ive never seen someone throw that many good/great shots one after another.

http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournamen..._ratings=1#Open (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6372&year=2007&incl ude_ratings=1#Open)

end of discussion :D

Matty O's a balla!

I guess the rounds were more impressive than the payout, expecially for the women...

1096 is pretty stinkin impressive. How about Nate Doss' 49 in the fifith round at Worlds this year. I believe that was on Granite Ridge in the afternoon. Its only a 1073 rated round, but what a clutch time to shoot it. It was the highest rated round of the tourney.

http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournamen..._ratings=1#Open (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6277&year=2007&incl ude_ratings=1#Open)

Kyle Crabtree's 47 at Swope in the final round of the KC Wide Open was insane.

Climo shot a 51, which was the next best round. SSA was almost 56 with a pretty high ranked field.

1096 is pretty stinkin impressive. How about Nate Doss' 49 in the fifith round at Worlds this year. I believe that was on Granite Ridge in the afternoon. Its only a 1073 rated round, but what a clutch time to shoot it. It was the highest rated round of the tourney.

http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournamen..._ratings=1#Open (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6277&year=2007&incl ude_ratings=1#Open)



Yeah that round was pretty nuts.

1 and 2 were dueces, 3 was a bonus, 4 was a duece, 5 was an easy 3, 6 was a huge bonus, 7 was a par 4, 8 was a duece, 9 was a tough 3, 10 was a par 4, 11 was a duece, 12 was a par 4, 13 was an easy duece, 14 was a par 4, 15 was a semi tough duece, 16 was a very big bonus 2, 17 was a 3 and 18 was a par 5.

And Nate shot a 49 missing 1 and 2.

SICK.

Mike, whoever you are, nice freakin shooting last week. I hope this is not a typo by the PDGA, that is just one sick round.

http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournamen...eRatings=1#Open (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=7176&year=2007&incl udeRatings=1#Open)

No Fluke...well maybe just a little. Just kidding.

Milldog can play. He cant play as many tourneys as he would like because of work, but he has been a really solid player for quite a few years. He lives in Salt Lake now, but he used to live in Phoenix. Shelly Sharpe is where he learned to play. He once had back to back aces on the same hole there. 40 at Vista is SICK!!

His job does allow him to travel and play lots of different courses. He was spotted in Vegas at Sunset Park 2 days prior to the tourney playing in flip-flops. I wonder if he wore those to victory? :D

Nice shootin Milliscent aka Milldog

gangloff's 52 at the hollow, for a course record 16 hours after skinner tied the course record with a 53....

you can't miss anything to shoot 52....

actually you can miss 6 holes :D

Perfect would be...

223232422323233323 = 46

Still, an amazing round. Doubles record is 49 by myself and Kirk Yoo, so 52 is really really good.

i think you're being too generous on 17- it has only been deuced about once per tournament thus far. imo perfect is 47.

True about 17 - I still wish the tee was moved up for a little better score seperation on the hole.

When Kirk and I shot 49 we missed 8, 10 and 17.

that 1096 by Matty-O is unbelievable!!! Gets my vote!

the score separation is actually pretty good- i'd say approx 30% 4's or worse. if i move it up it may create a few more deuces but it will cut the 4's dramatically.

I can see where your coming from.

(Sounds like it might have scoring like the infamous "par 3" Granite 9 which some think was a par 4 :D)

Hole 17 at Hawk Hollow = roughly 430 with only OB long
Hole 9 at Granite Ridge = roughly 600 with OB the entire way

End of Discussion.

Just finished the stats for the top 68 Open and Masters who averaged exactly 1000 rating. On Granite 9: 1% 2s, 53% 3s, 42% 4s, 4% 5s, 1% 6s for a 3.5 average. Tweener hole for Gold. Solid par 4 for Blue as designed. But with tweener holes, the designer gets the call. No question that gold players would consider a 4 a bogey with a birdie being real tough. Sounds similar to the scoring on the hole you're discussing with Biscoe.

Please show me a hole in golf where 1% of the top players birdie.

Here are some with single digit birdie percentages:
www.pga.com/pgachampionship/2007/scoring/course_stats.html (http://www.pga.com/pgachampionship/2007/scoring/course_stats.html)
www.golfsurround.com/openchampionship/2007/scoring/course_stats.html (http://www.golfsurround.com/openchampionship/2007/scoring/course_stats.html)

With scoring spread on open holes in DG typically having mostly two scores accounting for 85% to 100% of the scores versus three scores accounting for the same percentage in ball golf, you're going to find holes in DG with just birdies and pars, or just pars and bogeys. Both of these hole types can have the same par.

actually you can miss 6 holes :D

Perfect would be...

223232422323233323 = 46

Still, an amazing round. Doubles record is 49 by myself and Kirk Yoo, so 52 is really really good.


My round went like this
322332422 (23) 424234433 (29) 52
I missed 2 duece putts (holes 1& 4)
had 7 dueces (2,3,6,8,9,11,13)
4's on 7,10, 12 w/a circle, 15 & 16 - so yeah perfect would be 46 :)

wow a 2 on 3 is HUGE!!!

bonus deuce making perfect still 47. ;)

didn't me and Mose shoot a 46 on alternate shot or was it a 48

you shot 48 on best score and then 50 in best shot.

http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5563#Open

alternate shot, not best score. i don't dig best score as a format.

trust me John, we played best score the first round.

100% confident.

a new candidate...

http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournamen...eRatings=1#Open (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6681&year=2007&incl udeRatings=1#Open)

Heres one shot today.........

<font color="red"> Today in Vegas </font> (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6681&amp;year=2007&amp;incl udeRatings=1#Open)

:D

Go Rookies! Come on Cory, pull out another top ten! (Paul, you should play good too.) Nice shooting Cary, way to come back after that first round!

I will say the best I've heard about were Climo's last 3 rounds in the 07 USDGC, he rounds were very impressive in my book!

I would say this round....
1424!!!!!
http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournamen...=1#Intermediate (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=7257&amp;year=2007&amp;incl udeRatings=1#Intermediate)

Good Lord! Tom almost shot twice his rating! If there is a most improved award I think we know who gets it. 1400s, wow I did not think that was possible.

(Sorry to spoil it for you. Fixed)

1424 might set the record for the highest ever rated round by an intermediate player.

I think his total score of 8 for 18 holes is more impressive than the rating though... :eek:

yeah guess that means par should be lowered for some those holes to 0 and the tough ones to 1 :D

All we need to do is analyze the scoring spread on those holes and make the determination... :p

(Sounds like it might have scoring like the infamous "par 3" Granite 9 which some think was a par 4 :D)



Actually, they're different. Hollow #17 has and can produce deuces, where Granite #9 really cannot and has not.
:)

But I don't want to drift the thread....for the record, Crabby's round at Swope Bronze was disgustingly good.

He referred to that as a "bonus" deuce and that can certainly happen on GR9. It just hasn't been witnessed yet.

I think he said it was typically deuced about once a tournament. GR9 has yet to be deuced in several tournaments now, at least not to my knowledge. You would know better than I. The island hole at #8 Rosedale has been deuced a few times now over thousands and thousands of rounds. It's still a par 4, and it's effective length is shorter than GR9.

I'll quit drifting the thread now.

Chap

Justin Bunnell accidently dueced GR9 at worlds.

He yanked his tee shot and happened to get all the way across the OB to about 45 feet and made the putt

I think he said it was typically deuced about once a tournament. GR9 has yet to be deuced in several tournaments now, at least not to my knowledge. You would know better than I. The island hole at #8 Rosedale has been deuced a few times now over thousands and thousands of rounds. It's still a par 4, and it's effective length is shorter than GR9.

I'll quit drifting the thread now.

Chap



I though it was dueced by a few people at worlds?

No Open or Masters deuced it, and probably not the GMs, but I still haven't entered scores for one of their rounds on GR yet.

I deuced hole #7 about fifteen minutes before the round started :)

No Open or Masters deuced it, and probably not the GMs, but I still haven't entered scores for one of their rounds on GR yet.



No one has ever 2'd this hole, sounds like a par 3 to me. *sarcasm*

It's pretty simple really. If a hole has primarily or sometimes only two scores on it for players of the skill level it's designed for, like many holes in our sport, if 2/3 of them are 3s and the other 1/3 are either all 2s or all 4s, why should one hole be a par 3 and the other be a par 4?

arguing this with you is like arguing politics and religion.

no matter what you say, I'm going to believe what I believe.
no matter what I say, you're going to believe what you believe.

At least we can agree on that :D

Just answer why the pars should be different? We aren't like ball golf with typically three numbers or more on every hole. That's the problem and why our occasional "tough" par 3s like GR9 make players uneasy.

Once again WHO CARES ABOUT PAR!!! The round will be rated the same and the scores will be the same......Whether its a long par three that cant be dueced but can easily be foured or whether its a short part 4 thats an EASY 3 but should never be 5ed.........Who really cares??? At the end of the day your score is your score is your score whether Chuck wants to make his courses look harder than they are or not!!!

I also think there are many who don't want par to be unnecessarily padded so that those who smoke the course aren't shooting so far below par to make the sport look silly or too easy.

Pimp,

Par is VERY important. If we are going to have rules BASED on par (i.e. par +4 for missed holes), then making sure par is correct is very important. Other than that, I agree with every word you said.

Had someone missed GR9 or Highbridge Gold 1 which WERE par 4's that were listed as par 3's and they took a 7 instead of an 8, that is not fair to the field.

Pimp,

Par is VERY important. If we are going to have rules BASED on par (i.e. par +4 for missed holes), then making sure par is correct is very important. Other than that, I agree with every word you said.

Had someone missed GR9 or Highbridge Gold 1 which WERE par 4's that were listed as par 3's and they took a 7 instead of an 8, that is not fair to the field.


Wouldn't it be easier to just not miss the holes?

No Open player took a 6 on either HG1 or GR9 so being late would have been at least a 2-shot penalty on the field. That 2-shot differential would have been common on many holes on all courses for a late penalty.

No Open or Masters deuced it, and probably not the GMs, but I still haven't entered scores for one of their rounds on GR yet.



I though Swieger Pimped it and JB was within 50ft twice.

Maybe that was during doubles?

Pimp,

Par is VERY important. If we are going to have rules BASED on par (i.e. par +4 for missed holes), then making sure par is correct is very important. Other than that, I agree with every word you said.

Had someone missed GR9 or Highbridge Gold 1 which WERE par 4's that were listed as par 3's and they took a 7 instead of an 8, that is not fair to the field.



How about we get rid of that rule and if you miss ANY holes your DQed..........Then we wouldnt have to worry about it!!!

Exactly, same as adding your score wrong, no more 2 stroke penalty, your just DQ'ed!

Exactly, same as adding your score wrong, no more 2 stroke penalty, your just DQ'ed!



You mean hold players fully accountable and not say "Hey, we're just having fun here"?

Shocking concept.

/sarcasm

I deuced hole #7 about fifteen minutes before the round started :)



I had a 45 foot putt from the cinder block mound during the first round. It was craziness. I missed it though...

BACK ON TOPIC.

Steve Rico shot a 1088 round in the third round of the Halloween Classic, bested the next best, (Some Feldberg guy) by 3.

Just another great round to get us back on track. Stop arguing with Chuck! He never accepts defeat!!!!!

He never accepts defeat!!!!!



Sure I do. You can search for examples. :)

BTW, since that was a 24-hole layout at the Halloween Classic, the SSA on an 18-hole basis is around 50. The 5th best rating ever for that SSA range is 1092. So Stevie's 1088 just missed but may make the top 10 for that range.

BACK ON TOPIC.

Steve Rico shot a 1088 round in the third round of the Halloween Classic, bested the next best, (Some Feldberg guy) by 3.

Just another great round to get us back on track. Stop arguing with Chuck! He never accepts defeat!!!!!



Stevie beat Dave by 5 that round. -17 beat the course record by three. Dave did shoot -14 on Sunday.

Steve beat me by three the 2nd rnd. Saturday. I shot -14 after shooting a +1 the first round. :confused:

Steve's round should definitely be considered for round of the year. This layout at sunset has been played numerous times by Feldberg, Rico, Schultz, Barsby, and many other 1000+ standouts. To break the record by three is insane.

Funny Thing-
Stevie was making everything. On hole 10 he throws his tee shot into a tree on the right side of the fairway. It kicks out leaving him about 120 to the pin. Anthon jokingly says to him "If you make that, Im leaving." Steve drills it like its a 30 footer and laughs as he jogs to the pin. :D

-41 for 3 rounds is awesome

Good to hear some first hand reports, Cary.

Zand Chuck always has to have the last word.

He MUST post a reply to this. right? :)

No need to.

(Oh, ya got me. :eek:)

ha ha!

ha ha ha

...funny... i saw feldberg at the park on friday and he had just shot a -17 practice round, he said no one would believe him.

How about Matt Orum's 18 on the front nine of the third round at the Gator Country Classic?

It's one thing to talk about sick rounds, but I'd rather watch the final 9 of one.....http://www.discgolftv.com/dgtv/372/wmv/newest?channel_id=0&amp;page=1

Try www.discgolftv.com (http://www.discgolftv.com), link above might not work.....

Here a NEW one from this weekend in Portland.... /msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

<font color="blue"> New HOT Round? </font> (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=7269&amp;year=2007&amp;incl udeRatings=1#Open)

:D

Andrew Rich can shoot out of this world sometimes. I'm starting to regret not going to this tourney, if not for anything to just see that round. Good shootin Kid!