Zonedriven has just released the list for the 2008 Spectator discs good luck.

Good luck? I thought they were all sold?

good luck meaning it was an easter egg hunt and no one knows what they got until now

it kinda sucks that ice wasnt a color as i have 6 different shades of pink/purple and they are all classified under one designation.

What kinda sucks is those of us who donated to the tourney didn't get the opportunity to buy any [if we weren't physically there] ... because there were no limits on what was sold. I'm pretty sure last year we were only allowed to buy two.

this year the limit was 5 discs. of course that is only how many you can buy at a time. the last 3 years you could only buy 2 at a time, just had to spend time in the line to get more than 2

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Dammitt!

Just figured out that I gave away the most rare roc that I bought. I'm an idiot.

thats why i haven't jumped on any offers yet

5 discs? Well, that's just silly. But then, I guess that IS why they are called "spectator" Rocs. Wish I could have been there ... would love to have just one for the collection.

It was actually 10.

If you bought 5 rocs in the morning you could come back for the afternoon release and buy 5 more.

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It was actually 10.

If you bought 5 rocs in the morning you could come back for the afternoon release and buy 5 more.



Wow, cool. And now there's a bunch selling on ebay, and by the looks of it all going for over 50+. Not a bad deal for the spectators I see.

actually there was no limit you could keep getting back in line until they ran out of the mourning and afternoon allotment, but you could only get 5 max per purchase

next year innova should just ebay all the rocs themselves, so all this $ goes back into disc golf instead of the scalpers.

Not sure scalpers is the right term to use. How about investors. There are those of us who invested both time and money to make it a point to be there when they were released. Everyone had that option available to them.

That is why they are called "spectator" ROCS and not "buy them on the internet for the 2nd time in a year" ROCS. And not everyone sells them just for profit. I figured it out earlier this year and came up with almost $5500 spent on USDGC ROCS. More than 3/4 of those were resold at cost to folks who couldn't get there hands on any. (sold 10 out my 20 this year for that very reason) While I admit that I have sold some for profit it all kind of balances itself out. On top of the ROCS purchased we were also cash sponsors of the event for 5 years along with numerous hours of volunteer work there.

Next year just shoot someone an email and see if they will pick you up some. Ron Perkins did just that 2 years ago and I grabbed 10 for him including one of the rarer opaque ones. Had never met or spoken to Ron before that email. He got his ROCS at cost plus s/h and we both walked away friends.

Awesome story and viewpoint. It's pretty silly to get tweeked about this kind of thing.

BTW, I would love to get my hands on just one of the spec Rocs for my collection if anyone is interested.

ill sell you one for 50 boneman.

Rick-i was not looking for any. i do not throw rocs and am not a collector or "investor". being a regular to this board i realize it is actually fairly easy to aquire these and other rare discs if you are on it. I was simply commenting on the fact that some disc golfers make $ off of their fellow disc golfers in situations like this, instead of getting the discs to throw, which I believe is in the spirit of what innova is doing. i would rather see innova/usdgc getting these extra funds instead of the "investors". i do understand capitalism, and am not chastising anyone too much for going that route. Good on you for helping out others, you are setting a good example by doing that.

I just looked at mine and I have #164, only two made in that color and stamp and mine has pink splashed in the center, so one of a kind. :D

. Everyone had that option available to them.






Except for the people who were volunteering out on the course. They didn't set any aside for these people. Several spotters were unable to leave there post and by the time they got there all were gone. Peeps might think twice before volunteering on Saturday since they can't get one for less then $50. That's pretty LAME.

I was told the volunteers were complaining about just that problem and that they pulled a box back just for them, so that they all wouldn't leave their posts to go buy Rocs.

I was told the volunteers were complaining about just that problem and that they pulled a box back just for them, so that they all wouldn't leave their posts to go buy Rocs.



i was spotting out on hole 5 and didnt hear anything about that... i dont throw rocs but was actually thinking about picking one or two up (one to hang on the wall and the other to sell maybe or give as a prize). I didnt think to ask to have someone else buy one for me and dont know that I would since I would've liked to see what I had to choose from.

Either way... BS raises a good point

As far as the ebay thing... i think there is something to be said for this and Innova should auction off some the week before the tourney or something for even more added cash (to payout)... also think the idea of auctioning off a player spot (starting @ $750 or something) would be a good idea.

The rocs went on sale at 8am. The first card teed off at 8am. So unless you were spotting on the first 4 holes, there was no problem buying your Rocs and then getting to your hole to be ready for groups to come through. My dad was spotting on 9 with B.O.B Graham, and I was caddying for my buddy Kyle Enman, teeing off at 8:32 -- we were in line at 7:40 to get our Rocs and still have enough time to either get to our holes or be ready to tee off after we were done buying Rocs around 8:15. (Unfortunately they didn't actually go on sale right at 8...)

Some were recovering from Playaz Party. But in past years they always set some aside. I don't throw them so I don't buy them or pay over 18 for a disc but was with some volunteers that were upset and the attitude that they were give when they inquired about them.

For those that volunteer I can kind of understand if they were a little upset. My question for them is why not set it up and pay in advance if you know you're gonna be on the course when they go on sale? Or have a friend or loved one get them for you? I know of players that were playing that had friends and or family pick them up.

On the flip side the volunteers also get some pretty sweet packages not available to anyone but them. Maybe Zonedriven should sell some of those to help raise money. After volunteering with the distribution of the "spectator" ROC for two years there is still something I was told early on that comes to mind. These are "spectator" ROCS, with an emphisis on the spectator moreso than the volunteer or player. It's there way of saying thanks to those that come, spend money and contribute in thier own way to the tournament.

As far as Zonedriven auctioning them off before hand, how is that going to be any different than those who go, buy and resell? With the exception of extra money going to the purse of course. Prices will still be higher than most will want to pay. Collectible or not 99% of disc golfers would shudder at the prospect of paying $50 to $125 for a disc. Then there would be a handful of us who would snatch them up and when we resell them the price would skyrocket.

I know of folks from Arizona, Arkansas and Indiana that made the trip just for the ROCS. I also stood in line at 8:00 sandwiched between two competitors including one on the second card. The system works. If you want them then you need to make the effort to get them. Like everything else in life nothing is going to be handed to you on a silver platter.

After volunteering with the distribution of the "spectator" ROC for two years there is still something I was told early on that comes to mind. These are "spectator" ROCS, with an emphisis on the spectator moreso than the volunteer or player. It's there way of saying thanks to those that come, spend money and contribute in thier own way to the tournament.


I know of folks from Arizona, Arkansas and Indiana that made the trip just for the ROCS. I also stood in line at 8:00 sandwiched between two competitors including one on the second card. The system works. If you want them then you need to make the effort to get them. Like everything else in life nothing is going to be handed to you on a silver platter.



Forgive my editing Rick, but a "yup" from here. :cool:

I know that there were some discs set aside for volunteers because on Sunday when I was helping clean up the pro shop we packed up the box that was labeled for the staff and there were a few remaining discs.

ROC SNOBS - nuf said.

Throw a Buzzz or Wasp - not a first run either, you'll never notice the difference.

ROC SNOBS - nuf said.

Throw a Buzzz or Wasp - not a first run either, you'll never notice the difference.



You'll notice the difference, maybe not at this minute but in twenty years when my ROCS are sold and I buy that little island off the coast while you sit at home trying to figure out why they put so many Z's in Buzzz.

:D

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ROC SNOBS - nuf said.

Throw a Buzzz or Wasp - not a first run either, you'll never notice the difference.



You'll notice the difference, maybe not at this minute but in twenty years when my ROCS are sold and I buy that little island off the coast while you sit at home trying to figure out why they put so many Z's in Buzzz.

I think that is the same year Kelsey is going to sell her Beanie Baby collection and buy the nexst island over.

Anyone that spends 2-4 days standing out on a course spotting for 6+ hours a day deserves a real shot at some spectator ROCs. Whether they are given preferential treatment in the line at 8:00 AM (which I think is more fair) or some ROCs are held out for them, they should have a fair opportunity to buy some.

To me, letting them in at 7:30 (shuttle drivers and hole 2 first) so they can be on the course before the players reach their hole is a workable option. Limiting buyers to one trip through the line until after the awards is another.

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is this (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=34.94 308,+-81.01627&ie=UTF8&ll=34.943153,-81.016271&spn=0.000992,0.001808&t=h&z=19&iwloc=add r&om=1) your island?!

:D

Anyone that spends 2-4 days standing out on a course spotting for 6+ hours a day deserves a real shot at some spectator ROCs. Whether they are given preferential treatment in the line at 8:00 AM (which I think is more fair) or some ROCs are held out for them, they should have a fair opportunity to buy some.

To me, letting them in at 7:30 (shuttle drivers and hole 2 first) so they can be on the course before the players reach their hole is a workable option. Limiting buyers to one trip through the line until after the awards is another.



Please pass this on to any volunteers who did not get Spectator Rocs.

Please call Jonathan Poole at 803-366-5028 and we'll see if we can get you squared away on Spectator Rocs. We understand that some missed out on the opportunity because they were working hard to make this a great Championship, and we want to make sure they were not blocked out of the Spectator Rocs.