I think that the DROT issue has bean beaten to death on other threads so please do not do the same here.

What I want to know is the probability that this rule can/will be changed. Lets hear from chuck,someone on the competition committee, or a board member who has some say on the matter.

can it? certainly.

will it? i have no idea. i'm not aware of it being discussed.

Do you want to bring it up?

I've seen no indication that anyone on the Rules, Competition or Course Committees is lobbying to change the current rule. That's not to say that the RC won't be taking requests from members to consider rules changes the next time the Board asks the RC to update the rules.

I will say that the Tech Standards Committee will be reviewing basket specs next spring. Currently, there's no requirement that a PDGA Approved basket have a deflector like the chain assembly. In other words, you could remove the chain assembly on currently approved baskets and they would still be approved. Kind of takes the wind out of the DROT argument when PDGA Approved baskets don't even have to have a deflector assembly upon which a disc could sit to produce a DROT.

jake, as a fellow member of the colbert nation, i am open to helping you out :) . just please understand that a BoD member has no greater influence than any other Member on matters such as these. its entirely up to the RC.

I think that the DROT issue has bean beaten to death on other threads so please do not do the same here.

What I want to know is the probability that this rule will not be changed. Lets hear from chuck,someone on the competition committee, or a board member who has some say on the matter. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Pat, while the committees do the work, the BOD can tell the RC that they want to see such-and-such rule looked at and changed. The RC has to listen. You as a board member are responsible for this organization and have a lot more influence than you give yourself credit for.

jake, as a fellow member of the colbert nation, i am open to helping you out :) . just please understand that a BoD member has no greater influence than any other Member on matters such as these. its entirely up to the RC.



Actually, Pat, that's incorrect.

The current procedure is that either the BoD or RC can initiate a rules update, but only the BoD can approve or deny proposed rules changes. The BoD is the only body that can change the rules, the RC can only propose changes....the RC cannot enact those changes. The RC serves at the pleasure of the BoD.

The RC proposed that DROT count as good in the last 2 rules update proposals. The BoD vetoed that change both times. The RC is responsible for interpreting the current rules and also working up rules update proposals when necessary. Typically, the rules only need to be updated every 4-5 years or so. The USGA and Royal & Ancient update their rules books every four years. Our recent rules updates took place in 1984, 1990, 1997, 2002, and 2006.

The earliest a rules update could take effect at this point would be 2009. I've heard no rumors or grumblings from the BoD that they desire a change, so I imagine that even gets back to 2010 or 2011.

Chap

Where did you get all this information? :cool:

senior, did you figure it out on your own? :)

disc resting on top

Where did you get all this information? :cool:



Well, I've been a PDGA member since 1990, RC member since 2002, and served on the BoD from 2004-2006 as Competition Director. That, and I'm a geek.

Chap

I was going to say Magic 8 ball but the geek answer is better, Chap.

there are way too many opinions here. stop it. he asked for "no opinions please."

limit your posts to "drots happen."

unless you're one of the important people who can voice opinions. then, you can say, "drots rule." or, "drots, they're what's for breakfast." otherwise, pipe down opinion boy.

The facts are that I tend to have at least one DROT every two rounds I play. My putting sucks!

DROT, I hate it when that happens!!!!

I've seen 1 DROT in any of the groups I've played with in the last 3 months, and that's 80+ total rounds between everyone playing.

If you had thrown it 1" lower, it would have bounced out (or clanked the chastity belt on an innova basket). So why should it be good because you missed by more?

Is that a fact, or your opinion. Answer truthfully as it is very important to the author of this thread! I mean, are you sure you didn't just imangine it? It's very hard to prove that DROT's even exist.... Kind of like UFO's

I've seen 1 DROT in any of the groups I've played with in the last 3 months, and that's 80+ total rounds between everyone playing.

If you had thrown it 1" lower, it would have bounced out (or clanked the chastity belt on an innova basket). So why should it be good because you missed by more?



Well then why do putts that stick in the side count??? They NEVER had a chance to go in but they still count..........Why not a disc resting on top that was atleast high enough to go in in the 1st place???

I say tighten up the holes on the bucket so nothing can stick in or stick out..........Then there is no argument for a DROT to count.........If its not 100% inside the chains or the basket I dont think it should count at all.......Just my 2 cents

Well then why do putts that stick in the side count???



Because it's possible the disc was actually high enough to go in over the basket rim and stick in it on the way out. If you can't see it from the tee, how do you know? So, the decision was made a long time ago to allow them, even if everyone watches it stick in the side. I just saw another one on Saturday.

Well then why do putts that stick in the side count???



Because it's possible the disc was actually high enough to go in over the basket rim and stick in it on the way out. If you can't see it from the tee, how do you know? So, the decision was made a long time ago to allow them, even if everyone watches it stick in the side. I just saw another one on Saturday.



Common sense would tell you if it was in and pushing its way out but I see what your saying.........Either way the baskets should be made so none of this is even an issue.........The basket has been around long enough thats its time to fix the problems we have with them so that in the future we have a much more efficient target on which to compete.......One that catches more effeciently and one that would not let anything wedge in or OUT so that this rule can be done away with altogether!!! Again just my 2 cents

Well then why do putts that stick in the side count???



Because it's possible the disc was actually high enough to go in over the basket rim and stick in it on the way out. If you can't see it from the tee, how do you know? So, the decision was made a long time ago to allow them, even if everyone watches it stick in the side. I just saw another one on Saturday.



Common sense would tell you if it was in and pushing its way out but I see what your saying.........Either way the baskets should be made so none of this is even an issue.........The basket has been around long enough thats its time to fix the problems we have with them so that in the future we have a much more efficient target on which to compete.......One that catches more effeciently and one that would not let anything wedge in or OUT so that this rule can be done away with altogether!!! Again just my 2 cents



The problem there is, retro-fitting courses. There are enough targets out there that wouldn't conform that it'd cost WAY too much to fix all those courses.