Ackerman
Sep 16 2007, 12:27 AM
what are these things?? i've never seen one and would greatly appreciate some pictures if possible.
dgdave
Sep 16 2007, 08:54 AM
check out cam todd tb's (http://ironliondgs.com/)
in the collectable section. he has 2 for 110 each.
Ackerman
Sep 16 2007, 10:22 PM
thanks man.
20460chase
Sep 17 2007, 12:38 PM
check out cam todd tb's (http://ironliondgs.com/)
in the collectable section. he has 2 for 110 each.
Thanks! ;)
20460chase
Sep 17 2007, 12:48 PM
what are these things?? i've never seen one and would greatly appreciate some pictures if possible.
> The story I got from Avery:
He told me they were stamping discs that were going to the Team members and used the old school barstamp. There was around one hundred done, maybe a little more. He said alot the ones that Cam stamped personally were double stamped or had minor flaws as he couldnt get the machine to stamp them right. He wasnt familiar with the term "Cam Todd Teebird", as either all the Winnicrew or all of the Innova Team recieved the same discs, but suggested they were probably called that because Cam sold the most of them while out on tour. I also think he said that some were double stamped with the bar log and a Winniecrew logo, but that info may have came elsewhere, as they are about 10 stories going around about these discs. Im pretty sure RickB has some left as well, Im not sure whose stash his came out of though.
Im still looking for a Red one.
dgdave
Sep 17 2007, 01:20 PM
are those T or TL's?
mf100forever
Sep 17 2007, 01:29 PM
which plastic, CE?
dgdave
Sep 17 2007, 01:32 PM
ce
rickb
Sep 17 2007, 09:05 PM
Here's the story I got from Cam. Pretty much what Chase said except he wasn't having a problem with double stamping. All of the discs Cam stamped had an extra peice of silver foil hot stamp about 2 inches from the edge and at about 10:00 from the main stamp. This extra silver stamp piece was about 1/4" long. All of Cam's Teebirds were either white or orange with a silver hotstamp.
I'm thinking that Cam stamped about 50-60 discs if I remember right. Most of these were going to be for his personal use. When Cam decided to switch to Discraft in 2003 he approached me about buying his Innova discs. I wrote him a check, won't say for how much but he did use the money as a big downpayment on that Chevy Siverado.
What I got from Cam were about 40 of the CT Teebirds (all CE and all T's), 4 2001 CE Rocs including a ghost stamped green Zonedriven, mint pluto platter, 2 Shuttle Puppy's and a 100 disc case of other CE discs (most of which were 1st run CE Teebirds and CE Eagles, both mint and X-outs), a variety of San Marino Rocs (2 from Rico) and another case of Innova plastic.
Needless to say I sold all of the CE plastic. You'd have to go back in the traders row thread 4 years to see the clearance sale I had. All of the Cam Todd Teebirds were sold on Ebay minus a few that I still have locked away.
20460chase
Sep 18 2007, 12:28 PM
Somebody got a towel? I got some drool problems over here.
Yeah, according to Avery, those marks are the way to distinguish which Cam stamped and didnt stamp.
Im thinking all of Cams were due to his bonus for winning Worlds, if I remember correctly.
atreau3
Sep 18 2007, 01:01 PM
Somebody got a towel? I got some drool problems over here.
Yeah, according to Avery, those marks are the way to distinguish which Cam stamped and didnt stamp.
Im thinking all of Cams were due to his bonus for winning Worlds, if I remember correctly.
Hey Chase!!
Where did you get those Cam CE Teebirds from? ;)
dgdave
Sep 18 2007, 01:54 PM
Chase,
what are the weights on yours?
atreau3
Sep 18 2007, 02:22 PM
They should be 174 and 175...
That plastic is sooooooooooooooo sweet.
20460chase
Sep 18 2007, 06:31 PM
They should be 174 and 175...
That plastic is sooooooooooooooo sweet.
You got a memory. Thats correct.
<< Is where I got mine about 2 ( ?) years ago. I had one of the oranges already, but got another and 2 whites. 2 others have been thrown and sold.
lux4prez
Sep 19 2007, 01:22 AM
I bought a bunch of these from Cam. Unfortunately sold them all as well. :p They weren't all double stamped. In fact, I got about 20 from him and none were double stamped. They were real sweet though. Orange, white, and yellow max weights. YUM! Did he ever use any SE Teebird stamps? I have a dayglo yellow SE Teebird that is definitely NOT an SE Teebird. I didn't get this from Cam. It has to be 2nd run CE. Anyone know about these?
circle_2
Sep 19 2007, 11:18 AM
Cam had also unloaded a bunch (15+) of CE Tee Bird TLs here in Lawrence at our Play It Again Sports...for a set of used golf clubs. These had the Nike-type small black stamp and were mostly blues, purples, and maybe some reds...all 174-5. I bought one ($15) and still have it (well used)...and have always referred to it as a CTL - Cam Todd-L. All were translucent Champion-esque type plastic (later runs of CE) with subtle swirls...and were his roller of choice.
The day after my purchase I had to bring a picture of Cam in for the PIAS owner and employees to positively ID him - as he had claimed to be a World Champ and they're weren't too sure of this. Too bad he didn't autograph them.
20460chase
Sep 19 2007, 11:45 AM
I bought a bunch of these from Cam. Unfortunately sold them all as well. :p They weren't all double stamped. In fact, I got about 20 from him and none were double stamped. They were real sweet though. Orange, white, and yellow max weights. YUM! Did he ever use any SE Teebird stamps? I have a dayglo yellow SE Teebird that is definitely NOT an SE Teebird. I didn't get this from Cam. It has to be 2nd run CE. Anyone know about these?
Pretty sure I have one, I didnt get it from him though.
Also, by double stamped, I dont mean like x-outs. He would put the stamp down and it wouldnt take so he would apply it again. ( same spot. ) There is where the extra marks come into play.
Ackerman
Sep 19 2007, 11:37 PM
no chance of anyone maybe wanting to sell a cam todd teebird? right?
lux4prez
Sep 20 2007, 12:08 AM
Weren't they 2nd or 3rd run TL's with bar stamps? Speaking of which, does anyone remember or know of that mystical run of CE Teebirds that had the nipple on top, marked "T", but with a slightly tweaked TL lip? I have some of those and I'm guessing they are a small run made between the 2nd and 3rd. Just asking because I'm not sure.
20460chase
Sep 20 2007, 12:41 AM
Weren't they 2nd or 3rd run TL's with bar stamps? Speaking of which, does anyone remember or know of that mystical run of CE Teebirds that had the nipple on top, marked "T", but with a slightly tweaked TL lip? I have some of those and I'm guessing they are a small run made between the 2nd and 3rd. Just asking because I'm not sure.
If we are talking about the same disc, they were out before CE plastic hit. All I ever threw back then was SE TLs. I have 2 that are mixed plastic, similar to 10x KC blended stuff. One is Red/ Pink and is actually a friends. There were also Dayglo/ Lime colored.
Mine is White.
20460chase
Sep 20 2007, 12:47 AM
no chance of anyone maybe wanting to sell a cam todd teebird? right?
Not for less than 110.00$, and to be quite honest, they wont be priced there for much longer. I am in the process of loading around 100 new discs into the collectable portion of the website and some prices will be adjusted...upwards. BTW, alot of the stuff marked "Sold Out" isnt really gone. Some is, but on most the prices change to much from week to week and Id rather have it than sell it.
Almost all those are discs out of my collection I just dont need to keep, but dont want to sell all that much, which is why some of the prices are inflated.
Its an agreement of sorts between me and Jess..I can buy what I want if I make room selling other stuff. She just doesnt enforce a timetable on when I have to. ;)
Dana
Sep 20 2007, 02:01 AM
What about that red, opaque 11x kc t-b...is that going to be going up in price?
I'm crossing my fingers that it goes down :D
magilla
Sep 20 2007, 12:10 PM
What about that red, opaque 11x kc t-b...is that going to be going up in price?
I'm crossing my fingers that it goes down :D
Im sure it's going UP now! :eek:
:D
20460chase
Sep 20 2007, 12:45 PM
What about that red, opaque 11x kc t-b...is that going to be going up in price?
I'm crossing my fingers that it goes down :D
Thats a hard one to tell about. Its actually the same plastic the Tulsa Special Blends were done in. Ive seen lower weighted ones going for half the price on Ebay, but havent seen many, if another, max weight KC 11x.
Ive also seen a 11x KC Gazelle in the same plastic, and it was only around 168g. ( Most common weight of the Teebirds Ive seen also )
It came from an Innova East worker, and he told few exist.
Ackerman
Sep 20 2007, 09:36 PM
i have this pink kc pro teebird thats really marbly and kinda gummy...one of the best teebirds i have ever thrown, never seen another like it.