Anyone have any info about this midrange?

from the looks of the advertisement, if you're not prepared for the arrival of this disc, the ground and earth will shift beneath our very feet! make sure that at least one person purchases this disc on october 1st so that the people at dga do not decide to further disturb the earth's pangaeic patterns. i don't wish to have my house collapse into an abyss of molten lava.

btw, it probably flies like a roc.

Is this the retooled Torque?

...or a Buzzzard? /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

btw, it probably flies like a roc.



We were lucky to try these this weekend at the Yetter A tier in PA this past weekend... the disc flies very straight and seems like a great touch disc. Unfortunately we were throwing them for a CTP (not during tourny) into a steady 15mph headwind and there were mixed results. I came close on all of my three throws, throwing it low with hyzer.

The plastic feels like esp, and it feels like it has the top of the meteor, not exactly sure what the bottom is, but it is very shallow with a bead (think q sentinel bottom).

You can Pre-Order the Shockwave HERE (http://www.sunkingdiscs.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1617)

Is this the retooled Torque?



Meteor top with a very torque-sounding bottom...perhaps it is the original Torque that flew straighter than Discraft intended.

I've spent a lot of time playing with the Shockwave and wrote about my experiences on my blog.

Stan's Disc Blog on SantaCruzDisc.com (http://www.santacruzdisc.com/blogs/index.php?blog=6&title=testing_out_the_shockwave&m ore=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1)

According to DGA's site, the Shockwave will only be available in weights 167g-176g? Are you sure you were throwing a 179-180g disc? If not, did you notice any difference?

I was hoping that they would have a few Shockwaves at the National Recreation and Park Association's Conference here in Indiana. But no luck, I'll have to wait...

Nice catch! I ran out to my bag and checked and your right, the two I'm throwing are 176 and 175. As far as a difference goes I'm not sure what you mean. I can't tell a difference between the 176 and 175. The Rocs, Buzzes and Squalls were all 179 - 180 as I originally wrote. I'll edit the blog post now.

(The third Shockwave is at my office and I'm at home..)

OK, enough, I just ordered one to try out!

http://www.discgolftv.com/

All Shockwave Pre-Orders (http://www.sunkingdiscs.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1617) are shipping tomorrow...thanks!

Mmmmh, can�t find it in the approval list? I do not see a reason why it shouldn�t be approved, but if you release a disc you should have it approved until it hits the market,.. or?

Mmmmh, can�t find it in the approval list? I do not see a reason why it shouldn�t be approved, but if you release a disc you should have it approved until it hits the market,.. or?



Ok approved since 29th of october. Mmmh, I am quoting myself :p

I got a chance to check some of these out last weekend and they looked like a Torque with a square bead.

what's the latest word on these? i've heard overstable.

what's the latest word on these? i've heard overstable.



Not even close to being overstable. I would say they are less overstable than an esp buzzz.

I've been playing with one for a couple of weeks. The closest comparison I can make is a slightly beat KC Roc. They will hold a hyzer well, they will hold an anhyzer quite well, and they can be thrown on a dead straight line with ease.

It fits exactly what a midrange should be in my opinion. Nothing special, it just holds each of the three main flight angles correctly with ease.

The grip is very nice. It's meaty enough to feel solid in your hand, and it comes out clean. The diameter is just a tad less than a KC Roc, and I'd say it's got just a tad bit more dome.

The description of it being a little less overstable than a wasp and a little more overstable than a buzz is pretty accurate, depending on what type of buzz you're throwing. I'd probably say it's very similar all in all to a buzz but it has a bit more glide, and just a hair more overstable than certain models.


Anyhow. I like it. It won't be going in my bag because it does the exact same thing for me as a slightly seasoned KC Roc, and I'm a Roc guy. But for people that prefer the ESP plastic, or people who don't throw Rocs or Buzzzs, the Shockwave might be just what you're looking for.

Solid analysis there

OOOHHH, a seasoned KC roc that won't crack in the winter. Just what I'm looking for.

I'll second that thought dgdave ... I was just thinking the same thing.

I definitely want to try one of these... I switched from Rocs to the Buzz at the beginning of '07, when I lost my perfectly beat in 11X... I like the buzz better overall, but it still makes me nervous sometimes. I'm not always confident with it. I'd like something just a little bit more stable, but not as much as a new roc.

So...if they ever run it in Sparkle then I won't need to try and find any more 1st Run Buzzz's- Interesting.... :cool:

Last night I picked one of these up. They had probably 50 of them to paw through at my local shop, so I got to be picky. Most were domey, but the one I bought is pretty flat. Definitely no pop-top. It is white and weights 175-176 (the sticker on this one was accurate as it flipped back and forth on the scale between 175 and 176). Anyway, I took it out this morning on my dog walk through the park to give it a few tosses. It was really windy, so I had second thoughts but took it out anyway. The one that I have is quite overstable. Even into a stiff wind it barely flipped flat from a 25 degree hyzer release and came back hard. One interesting thing of note about this disc is that its bead is squared off on the outside edge. You don't notice when it is in your hand, but I think that it really puts on the brakes when it lands. I had one hit the edge of the road from about 350' and it did a crazy back spin and only ended up sliding about 10' into the middle of the road. This could be a useful attribute. The disc was about the speed of a buzz, but with a faster fade. It carried about the same distance as a buzz as well, but more overstable for sure. It may replace my Wasp, as it carries farther on the same line. Very nice disc overall. A couple of asphalt hits barely touched the plastic as well, so it seems durable. I was initially concerned about hitting pavement, imagining that squared edged bead being sanded right off, but that didn't happen at all this morning.

After it hit the road like that, could you still slice tomatoes with it?

After these reviews I might have to go pick one up. I've been looking for something to replace my Wasp. I tried a Storm but I think that it's still too understable for what I need.

Discspeed - have you tried any with the domier top? If so, how did it compare with the flatter top?

After it hit the road like that, could you still slice tomatoes with it?



Absolutely. Great for peeling apples and carrots too! I would rather get hit in the head with a Destroyer than that sharp bead on the Shockwave.

I have not tried the domier ones, but since most of them were domey I assumed the previous reviews that described the Shockwave as barely overstable to straight were based on the domier versions. Mine was exactly as the marketing on DGA's website claims. I'm taking it out to the course tonight and more opinion will follow. If I really like it I will probably buy a domier one as well to compare.

I have four shockwaves, two first flight and two regular run. The first flights are both 173 with moderate dome - I have only thrown these a handfull of times and they are as described earlier - very similar to a wasp in grippier plastic (I don't throw rocs). The regular runs are both 175-176, I have only thrown my white one, not the orange yet. This particular color (white - I have discussed it with a couple other guys at my course) is more overstable than any of the others I have thrown or seen thrown. Maybe it is the weight, but it is more overstable than a wasp.

Jordan

Yeah my domey one was pretty overstable at first but it didn't take more than a round or two before it started losing its hard fade. It still fades out when it slows down but it loses elevation quickly as it fades which makes me feel like it has less glide than say a roc or buzzz. less glide but more speed

It is worth noting that the second run of the Shockwave is much more overstable than the first flights. Although there is a significant difference between the two they have both found a place in my bag.

So I checked out the shockwave today, and it seemed like it was a cross between a storm and a gator. They all had the flat tops and pretty good grip. I was going to buy one but they had a new shipment of X-out champ Teebirds in so I picked up a couple of those instead.

I've only thrown a 2nd run, pretty flat white max. weight and it flew like a beat up Demon- pretty **** stable. This was after a few hits even.
Nice plastic and meaty grip.

it flew like a beat up Demon- pretty **** stable.


Now THAT'S intriguing. Am on the hunt now. :cool:

I can give a little better overview of the Shockwave now that I have played a few rounds with it in my bag. First of all the white 175g Shockwave I bought is a straight flyer with an overstable finish. Basically a Buzz that does not glide as long with a more predictable fade. Soon after I posted my review of the white one I picked up a reddish/pinkish one that weighs 177 on my scale. This disc is truly overstable and it has replaced the white one alongside my Buzzes. This Shockwave has a different flightpath from any Roc, Buzz, Wasp I've thrown and is really a useful disc. I've not thrown a drone or demon much for comparison, but this disc is faster than a Gator but slower than the Gremlin with a stability between the two. It has more glide than either. It is a nice disc with plenty of room stability-wise to break in. I have not had a true overstable mid in my bag for some time because I have issues with all the ones out there. So far this seems to be working better for me for those hyzers in the 220-320' range. It really presents an advantage over what I was using for these shots (buzz/predator) because its fade is more predictable than the Buzz and this disc really does not skip hardly at all (UNlike the pred).

Welp, here are my .02.

I had about 10 or so throws with them last night. They are blue, domey 1st flights.

Definatley not as overstable as toubted. That being said, these are very nice discs. Super straight with a strong finish. Hold a line very well. I threw some turnovers with these and the held it the whole way and just leveled out at the end. Couldn't handle a wind like a KC Roc, but it thrown with touch it could hold its own. Its slightly faster than a roc and flies like a 3 or 4 month old KC Roc.

My biggest complaint is that the stop is super slippery and the bottom is grippy. I will take some acetone to it and see if that helps out at all.

This disc is staying in the bag for further testing, and will most likely be a seasoned KC Roc replacement for the cold monthes. We got some snow yesterday.

I also have a non first flight one on the way. those are supposed to be flatter and more overstable. That would be a nice compliment.

It seems that there is quite a bit of inconsistency among the different runs/colors of the Shockwave. This must be why its the Shockwave and not the Torque. Anyway, this is not a bad thing if you can get multiples of the same disc. If you are looking for overstable pick up a red/pink domey max weight, you will not be disappointed.

I just got a Shockwave. I think this is where it fits.
Wasp is to Buzzz as Shockwave is to Meteor. It's a beaded Meteor.

What is the rim like on the Shockwave? Roc/Wasp/Buzz like thickness or Q-Sentinel, Stingray, Gremlin like thickness?

Thanks,
Matt

Thicker than SENT, STING, or GREM. Blind tests very similar to Wasp, and flies like a nice Roc or Wasp. KP