KayakFisher
Aug 03 2007, 10:47 AM
I like to see that more courses are going in, but please keep it free! I switched to disc golf from ball golf, due to the cost (disc golf should always be free!) and the seclusion in the woods (which ball golf lacks). I'll pay for fundraisers, league play and tourny's, but can't see myself paying to play a casual round. If I wanted to do that, I would pick up my golf clubs and that little white ball, pay lotsa money, whack the little fella really far down 18 fairways, to try to find the little thing all over the course, get discouraged looking, drop another ball, hit it really far again, step on the ball I was looking for cause it disappears in 2 inches of grass, repeat. Also to get more people playing, charging money for disc golf isn't the answer! Anybody want to start a new website called "keepdiscgolffree.com" or something like that :) just my $.02

Erie needs a course, but if it was pay to play... I wouldn't support it. Duck Run is a nice little course, but don't enjoy playing in a trailer park.

If you wish to pay to play, read on... you won't see me there
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Seven Springs Mountain Resort has added another family-friendly activity to the ever-growing list of things to do in the mountains � disc golf!

Disc golf is played much like traditional golf.*However, instead of a ball and clubs, players use a flying disc.*The sport shares with traditional golf the object of completing each hole in the fewest number of strokes, or in the case of disc golf, least number of throws.*

The flying discs used in disc golf are very similar to the Frisbee disc. But a golf disc is much smaller than the traditional Frisbee. Also, a Frisbee has a rounded, flatter edge whereas a disc golf disc typically has a beveled edge. A golf disc has the potential to be thrown much farther than a typical rounded Frisbee and is not designed to be catchable.

An initial "drive" is taken from a designated tee area. Each subsequent throw is taken from just behind the spot where the disc came to rest. Then each throw is added to the player's score. The trees, shrubs and terrain changes located in and around the fairways provide challenging obstacles for the golfer. The hole is completed when the disc has come to rest in the basket.

Similar to golf, disc golf is scored in relation to par. Par is defined as the number of throws it should take to reach the putting area, plus two. If a golfer reaches the putting area on every hole in the desired number of shots and then putts twice every hole, he would shoot par for the course.

Disc golf shares the same joys and frustrations of traditional golf, fresh air in a beautiful landscape, the camaraderie of friends and the challenge of sinking a long putt or hitting a tree halfway down the fairway!

To schedule a �tee time,� please call 800-452-2223, extension 7645. Players can play a round of nine holes for $8 per person.

kUrTp
Aug 03 2007, 12:57 PM
I know some ski resort disc golf course are played from the top of the mountain and basically play downhill all the way. For instance, Deep Creek Maryland has a nine hole course where you pay $5 to ride the lift up the hill, same goes for one of the best courses i've played Solitude Mountain Resort in Salt Lake City.

I don't know if this is going to be the case for 7 springs or not. If there is no lift ride i would feel the same way but, if thats what your paying for it could possibly be worth the money.

kUrTp
Aug 03 2007, 02:54 PM
After looking at 7 springs website I might take back what i said prior. First off, they spelled Disc Golf "Disk Golf". Then after checking out some photos it looks very amateur. Just check out this photo - http://cu.7springs.com/pages/big_photo.php?mm=1505761&gallery=296992
No hard feelings to the gentlemen in the pic.
It probably won't be worth $8. But, look at the bright side of things, a ton of people spend thier summer days hanging out at 7 Springs. This is definately a good place to promote the Sport in general. So kudos to them for that.

sandalbagger
Aug 03 2007, 02:57 PM
So, basically we need to get in touch with 7 springs, redesign the course to make a beautiful 18 hole course that would be worth paying $8 for. And it would most definitely have to start from the top of the mountain.

gotcha
Aug 03 2007, 04:24 PM
I would gladly pay to play disc golf as long as the overall design was good, the facility was up kept and the course(s) was well maintained. I'm anxious to make it out to Timberlink Golf Course (http://pdga.com/course/courses_by_city.php?id=2785) to check out the new par-55 disc golf course by Fly 18. The dgc is designed on a ball golf course and you can rent a cart and enjoy a cold one as you ride around the layout! We definitely need more municipal parks (and state parks) to see the value of adopting this relatively inexpensive recreational activity, but I would like to see more private, pay-per-play courses as well. As for Seven Springs, I would be interested to hear how the course is. I've always wanted to take a chair lift to the top of a mountain and throw golfs discs back down!

21016
Aug 04 2007, 07:34 PM
" I would gladly pay to play disc golf as long as the overall design was good, the facility was up kept and the course(s) was well maintained."

I couldn't agree more. I love the fact that I only pay with blood, sweat, and many tears at Moraine. If I had to start paying to play, I would. I have no problem paying to play at Paw-Paw. They have private clubs in ball golf , and they have advantages that public courses can't. Thats what you pay for. I will spend money If the course and facilities are worth it.

Rex_Trimm
Aug 05 2007, 12:53 PM
Paying to play- I'm always putting in money on matches, loosing discs and ponying up at the pump. Hardly free. I just started chuckling to myself when I realized that my game is far more expensive this year than last and I still find a way to keep my scores high.

flyboy
Aug 06 2007, 11:36 AM
Pay for play is the way.The less you pay the less you care about it.The parks have been, where we have got our roots.Golf courses have evolved from that .I would like to think that I have led the way ,with 18 perm courses, on golf courses, in 7 states, in 7 years.We are where we play fact.
A pay for play course should have more ementities than free.I feel it should have some type of proshop with discs and employee 7 days a week with some cold sodas and snacks.A scorecard with map and a pencil would be great.There is a saying you get what you paid for.Our sport is not passive anymore there are hundres playing these courses everyday.There will always be free courses but the tide is turning pay for play.What fly 18 offers you dont find in a park.Same game different venue.Some people never change do you still ski :(....All courses have a purpose I hope to be 1.

KayakFisher
Aug 08 2007, 03:03 PM
If you notice, he is using an ultimate disc. Every one of the pictures are from the same basket at the bottom of Avalanche Slope. He is probably a poster child for their activities. They don't seem to be trying to draw people in, but to add to their "Summertime" activities while staying there. I wonder if they charge you to mountain bike there too? Either way, you won't be seeing me at a pay to play course... unless that $8 includes a cart, with a 6-pack of frosty beverages :)

garydropcho
Aug 13 2007, 01:02 PM
I played the nine hole course at 7 Springs on 8/8, and although the putting basket was installed over 100 yards from the Recreation Center and the beginning of the course, and all of the tees were on sidehill slants or downhill tilts, and there was only 15-20 feet of difference between the white and red tees, and the two par 4 holes were less than 290' with no other elevation or obstacles on them, and most of the holes played across the bottom of the ski slope with short downhill shots on only two of the holes, the layout itself presented no crossing fairways or dangerous situations for such a recreational course.

It is, however, a course that holds no appeal for me to return for a second trip . Perhaps it will attract some first time players who are already at the resort, but in no way is this a destination for the avid disc golfer. If you have your own disc(s) there is no charge to play the course. Currently, the Recreation Center rents or sells discs to anyone that wants them.

IMO the resort has missed the boat at creating a course that will bring people to the mountain. Existing ski resorts like Wisp in MD, Sugar Bush in VT and out west in Aspen have courses that generate revenuepay by starting at the top of the mountain and playing down hill. The resorts charge a lift ticket to get to hole 1. They may also rent/sell discs.

I spoke to one of the managers at the Recreation Center who apologized for the course, saying that they had no input or knowledge of it being done until it was put in the ground.

My contact at Innova and at Seven Springs back in May 07 expressed the hope that an 18-hole course could be done, with multiple skill level tees, for the summer '08 season.

I have a call in to Innova to try to find out what happened. Perhaps whoever bought the baskets has intentions of something better but just wanted to get something in the ground before the Summer season is over. Hopefully we'll have chance to do something bigger and better there.

sandalbagger
Aug 16 2007, 10:57 AM
Here here.....I would love to come and help out on the course if it gets redesigned!!!