Anyone have any more info on this tournament?

its a great tournament - usually 2 rounds of 21 at Ford Park -nice park mostly flat with huge Pine Trees that will stop a disc on a dime and a nice lake that doesnt come into play and 1 round of 27 holes at Clyde Fant Park -nice park next to Red River,downtown Shreveport,and Casinos with low ceiling shots and fast greens. I really wish that there was more talk on this one every year, there may be more info @ www.sndg.org (http://www.sndg.org) though.

I am thinking of attending this. I want to hit up the casinos for my birthday and figured I might as well paly while I'm there. Can I sign up the day of?

Thanks but we are planning on going and I do not have times, cost, or anything!

you can usually sign up the morning of but you may miss out on a towel if your playing AMs.I talked to Kevin the other day and I think he said Open- $65 ADV- 45 or $50 INT- 40 or $45.If you are at Ford park around 8:30,you should be ok but I would call Kevin to make sure;he is the TD and I am just a player from Austin that has played the tournament a couple of times.At the '05 Challenge they had a guy serving cajun food and always have a putting contest,etc..

This is a great event. I went to this tournament last year and had alot of fun. Ford Park is a great course to play. The other course is a little dinker course until they add the other nine holes accross the street.

Cool! I will definitely give him a call and find out the scoop..just trying to figure out somewhere to stay now.

It is a great tournament. I went for the first time last year and I'll attend every year that I can. Last year, Rusty Banks's mom cooked a huge amount of food that 80 people could eat and there would still be some left over. The Shreveport guys always do a hell of a job and you will be missing out if you do not go.

I've got the flyer right here and the divisons/cost:

Open - $60 Master - $50
Grandmaster - $40 Women - $30
Advanced - $40 Adv. Master - $40
Am Master - $30 Amateur - $30
Am Women - $20 Junior/Novice-$15*

Novices/Juniors play Saturday only and all non pdga members pay $5 extra.

Registration is on Saturday from 8-9 at Ford Park.

$500 to first place Open.

1st paid 50 entries get a free towel.

If you have any questions, send an email to ShreveportDGC@comcast.net

It is a great tournament. I went for the first time last year and I'll attend every year that I can. Last year, Rusty Banks's mom cooked a huge amount of food that 80 people could eat and there would still be some left over. The Shreveport guys always do a hell of a job and you will be missing out if you do not go.

I've got the flyer right here and the divisons/cost:

Open - $60 Master - $50
Grandmaster - $40 Women - $30
Advanced - $40 Adv. Master - $40
Am Master - $30 Amateur - $30
Am Women - $20 Junior/Novice-$15*

Novices/Juniors play Saturday only and all non pdga members pay $5 extra.

Registration is on Saturday from 8-9 at Ford Park.

$500 to first place Open.

1st paid 50 entries get a free towel.

If you have any questions, send an email to ShreveportDGC@comcast.net



Nice so what is the open field going to be like?

It is a great tournament. I went for the first time last year and I'll attend every year that I can. Last year, Rusty Banks's mom cooked a huge amount of food that 80 people could eat and there would still be some left over. The Shreveport guys always do a hell of a job and you will be missing out if you do not go.

I've got the flyer right here and the divisons/cost:

Open - $60 Master - $50
Grandmaster - $40 Women - $30
Advanced - $40 Adv. Master - $40
Am Master - $30 Amateur - $30
Am Women - $20 Junior/Novice-$15*

Novices/Juniors play Saturday only and all non pdga members pay $5 extra.

Registration is on Saturday from 8-9 at Ford Park.

$500 to first place Open.

1st paid 50 entries get a free towel.

If you have any questions, send an email to ShreveportDGC@comcast.net



Nice so what is the open field going to be like?



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Nice so what is the open field going to be like?



I heard there is some Houston folks going. Round Rock will be in the house too.

Nice so what is the open field going to be like?



I heard there is some Houston folks going. Round Rock will be in the house too.




Yeah Megan and I are going and so is Bratten.

Where is everyone staying?

Staying with friends.

Staying with friends.



I hear if you lose enough money in the casinos, they let you pass out drunk on the floor for free !!! :D

Staying with friends.



I hear if you lose enough money in the casinos, they let you pass out drunk on the floor for free !!! :D



Are the casinos 18+ or 21?

Staying with friends.



I hear if you lose enough money in the casinos, they let you pass out drunk on the floor for free !!! :D



Are the casinos 18+ or 21?



Sorry scooter, 21+ only.........

Staying with friends.



I hear if you lose enough money in the casinos, they let you pass out drunk on the floor for free !!! :D



Are the casinos 18+ or 21?



Sorry scooter, 21+ only.........



Freakin alcoholics. Oh well I will just have to wait until I go back to Minnesota or maybe that was Michigan. :D

I'll certainly be returning to avange my crippling blow up during the last 9 holes of Clyde Fant. Here's a tip: Play those extra nine holes at least once before the tourney. ;)

This tournament is really awesome. Last year I vowed to return well before the tournament was over.

Oh, and the feast at Rusty's mom's was crazy good.

Rusty's Mom is awesome.........

. . .And sO Is rUsTY :D:D

10th Annual Shreveport Disc Golf Challenge July 14 & 15
PDGA B-Tier Event
Southern National Qualifier

Friday Night Doubles (optional), July 13 Clyde Fant Parkway
BYOP Doubles $20 Team
Pro, Adv, Am
Flex Start 6pm-8pm

Saturday, July 14 Ford Park
Register 8am-9am
Player Mtg 9am
TeeOff 9:30am
2 Rnds 21 Holes

Sunday, July 15 Clyde Fant Parkway
Player Mtg 9am
1 Rnd 27 Holes

$500 1st Place Open
Free Towel 1st 50 Paid Entries
Free Disc for All Novice & Juniors

Open-$60
Master-$50
GM-$40
Women-$30
Adv-$40
Adv Master-$40
Am Master-$30
Am-$30
Am Women-$20
Junior/Novice-$15 (saturday only)

TD- Kevin Pelton, 318-219-0440, ShreveportDGC@comcast.net

I CANT WAIT FOR THIS TOURNEY!!!!!
WHATS THE COURSES LIKE????
ANYONE FROM THE DFW AREA KNOW???
CEDAR HILL? BB OWEN??? AUTOBAHN???

Ford Park is an open course with scattered "huge" pine trees and clyde fant is a 27 hole course next to the Red River and casinos with low ceiling shots and elevation comes into play on the back 9.

Joe, are you going to this one?

oh yeah

Does anyone know of any ladies who plan to attend?

I know Jessica Clark will be there she will probably play advanced

Just talked to Matt Hall, his girl, Megan from CA is moving up and playing open. Is Emily L. coming to this one?

Just talked to Matt Hall, his girl, Megan from CA is moving up and playing open. Is Emily L. coming to this one?



Emily said she would be there......

Will everyone be playing the same course Sat?

There's 3 of us coming and we are all playing different divisions.

Do I need to make directions to the parks and bring a seperate vehicle?

Will everyone be playing the same course Sat?

There's 3 of us coming and we are all playing different divisions.

Do I need to make directions to the parks and bring a seperate vehicle?



You will all be on the same course.

Heard a rumor that there is a Skins match for the Top four MPOs! Is this true and if so any clue on how much will be in it?

There's 3 of us coming and we are all playing different divisions.






Correction, There will now be 5.

We will be there bright and early to sign up.

Heard a rumor that there is a Skins match for the Top four MPOs! Is this true and if so any clue on how much will be in it?



Very true.
Made $125 last year on all but one skin.

Giles and I will be coming with Phil and Jess!!

my buddy backed out on me looking for a roomate for this weekend!!!! if anyone knows of anyone please let me know i just dont want to get a room by myself....call me a cheap ***** but i am!!! lol call my cell 972 533 5975

Casino...Here we come!!!

Will registration be at the same place as the Ford Park Open?

Looking for someone to stay with or split a room. 936-328-0503

Call ASAP!

there was someone looking to split a room earlier..see the 9:25 pm post

Yeah sent a PM didn't get a response so I'm going to call.

JD Ramirez is in the lead in open after shooting a -7 in pouring down rain and a -4 from the long tees (red)- sick!!

Had a great time......I will be back and encourage others to attend

SCORES?????? :o

BUMP

JD won by 10
Fowler,Vinnie, and I tied for 2nd

I took 3 skins
JD-1
Vinnie-1
Fowler-1

how many open players were at this event? How much did the winner get paid?

Lake Bistineau was GREAT!! http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g175/haleigh_02/PHIL-1.jpg http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g175/haleigh_02/lakebisineau7.jpg http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g175/haleigh_02/lakebisineau16.jpg

how many open players were at this event? How much did the winner get paid?




The winner got $500 and we got $125 for 2nd.

there were 15 pros

SCORES?????? :o



SCORES

Way to go JD...

Would not expect them anytime soon.
Took about 2 months last year. :confused:

That and the birdie fest last round is why I stayed home.

how many open players were at this event? How much did the winner get paid?




The winner got $500 and we got $125 for 2nd.

there were 15 pros



You mean 14 pros and one donate r . . . :) :D:D

JD WON
matt hall john fowler and vinnie miller all tied for 2nd (10 strokes back)

phillip lynch won adv
shawn wiese 2nd
joe herndon 3rd

like a 4 way tie for 4th 5th 6th and 7th
i was one of those losers!!!!!

how many open players were at this event? How much did the winner get paid?




The winner got $500 and we got $125 for 2nd.

there were 15 pros



You mean 14 pros and one donate r . . . :) :D:D



aT lEAst u fINiSh THe eVeNts U sTArT. :D

how many open players were at this event? How much did the winner get paid?




The winner got $500 and we got $125 for 2nd.

there were 15 pros



You mean 14 pros and one donate r . . . :) :D:D



aT lEAst u fINiSh THe eVeNts U sTArT. :D



WHATS THAT ALL ABOUT ?

Shreveport left me wanting more once again. I felt like I played better than last year but it doesn't show in the results. I hope it's the competition getting better and not me just becoming stagnant. ;)
I believe I thanked everyone who volunteered already in person, but if I missed someone, thank you very much.

What's worse? Not finishing a tournament, or not returning to defend your title?

Here's the results:
Par for Round 1 and 2 is 63. Par for round 3 is 81.

OPEN(15)
J.D. Ramirez 56 59 68 183 $500 + $25 skins
Matt Hall 62 62 69 193 $125 + $75 skins
Vinnie Miller 62 63 68 193 $125 + $25 skins
John Fowler 61 59 73 193 $125 + $25 skins
Mike Kernan 63 64 72 199 $65
Paul Lowery 62 64 74 200 $55
Jamie Callis 66 62 73 201
Will Timmons 63 65 75 203
John Jennings 64 63 78 205
Jose' Ossa 65 68 76 209
Joe Hague III 69 64 77 210
Ryan Pickens 66 70 76 212
Guy Boyan 69 67 79 215
Mike Brown 62 74 79 215
Chris Farnham 69 62 DNF

MASTER(8)
Dieter Nuemann 63 65 74 202 $150
Ron Silliman 60 68 77 205 $90
John Taylor 65 66 79 210 $60
Mark Wilson 65 69 78 212 $50
Robert Randolf 64 70 82 216
Rusty Banks 69 69 80 218
Joe Matz 67 64 91 222
Johnny Reed 63 72 DNF

GRANDMASTER(2)
Joel Bennett 70 59 85 214 $70
Alan Byrd 78 68 85 231

SR. GRANDMASTER(3)
Marvin McVay 63 60 56 179 $65
Mark Robinson 77 73 62 212 $35
Joal McKenzie 76 77 68 221

WOMEN(3)
Jessica Clark 76 68 89 233 $50 mdse(didnt accept cash)
Megan Stroh 72 78 89 239 $25 mdse(didnt accept cash)
Susan Macaluso 75 75 92 242 $25

ADV MEN(19)
Phillip Lynch 70 70 74 214 $165 mdse
Sean Weise 64 67 86 217 $120 mdse
Joe Herndon 70 70 79 219 $100 mdse
Casey Cox 70 67 85 222 $80 mdse
Leon Gillard IV 66 71 87 224 $50 mdse
Phillip Hall 71 68 85 224 $50 mdse
Curt Youngblood 67 73 84 224 $50 mdse
Tim Thompson 68 73 84 225 $35 mdse
Brandon Jones 72 72 82 226
Chris Zagone 72 70 85 227
Phillip Clark 69 77 83 229
Jason Cowling 73 71 85 229
Giles Sowerby 73 72 86 231
Jamie Gomez 68 77 86 231
Brent Compton 73 79 82 234
Jordan Hudson 74 80 87 241
Pete Hays 70 73 DNF
Curt Young 71 DNF
Scott Ostenfeld 75 DNF

ADV MASTER(6)
Neal Martinez 67 66 79 212 $100 mdse
Ray Johnfroe 69 76 86 231 $60 mdse
Richard Rogers 73 77 83 233 $45 mdse
Paul Houston 77 77 86 240
Don Hill 76 79 85 240
David Dement 78 85 86 249

AM WOMEN(3)
Marie Findley 72 72 94 238 $35 mdse
Haleigh Shepherd 75 78 108 261 $15 mdse
Michelle Williams 72 71 DNF

AM MEN(24)
Tyler Warehime 69 62 74 205 $75 mdse
Mo Findley 70 59 83 212 $67 mdse
Billy Williams 70 62 80 212 $67 mdse
Matthew Robidas 67 64 82 213 $60 mdse
Adam Andrews 70 64 81 215 $50 mdse
Justin Hurst 68 62 85 215 $50 mdse
Shawn Smith 74 61 80 215 $50 mdse
Chris Raach 74 60 83 217 $40 mdse
Hayden Henry 71 66 82 219 $35 mdse
Micheal Buckley 72 64 86 222 $30 mdse
Aaron Procell 77 61 85 223 $25 mdse
Chris Nix 77 63 83 223 $20 mdse
Kevin Wiemann 80 63 84 227
Jehu Trumbly 78 65 85 228
Brad Brooks 75 65 88 228
Adam Procell 78 64 88 230
Lance Hutchinson 72 68 91 231
Jarred Martinez 80 66 87 233
Tim Council 72 70 91 233
Donald tomasko 79 65 92 236
Jason Powell 81 65 92 238
Robert Raach 80 70 94 244
Scott Duffer 84 74 101 259
Donnie Powell 82 72 DNF

JUNIOR(3)
Daniel Powell 54 72 126 $20 mdse
Davis Dunn 54 85 139 $10 mdse
Dylan Belanger 54 90 144 $10 mdse

NOVICE(2)
Drake King 68 72 140 $20 mdse
Zachary Smart 95 87 182 $10 mdse

Jessica can't take merch instead of cash as this was a B-tier PDGA sanctioned event. Megan declined her cash and took nothing.

It would have been nice for her to have some real "pro" competition, so she could accept the cash.

Thanks Kevin for running a great tournament.

Yes, my dear I do understand. But the rules are the rules, so if you declined your cash, where did it go? And what did you use to purchase the discs you said were your payout.

the Division didn't say anything about OPEN.. It says "Women".. Could mean Advanced Women.

The PDGA is very clear on this subject. I'm not trying to ruin anyone's day, but just stating the facts.

Jessica can't take merch instead of cash as this was a B-tier PDGA sanctioned event. Megan declined her cash and took nothing.



Sounds like you're tring to ruin someone's day

Megan and I understood what division we were playing. I'm sorry and I'm sure they will figure a way out of this.

So Suemac, You took Cash?

Jessica can't take merch instead of cash as this was a B-tier PDGA sanctioned event. Megan declined her cash and took nothing.



I don't see anywhere on this forum where it says that Jessica did anything different than Megan. This is how it's listed in the msg before SueMac's:

WOMEN(3)
Jessica Clark 76 68 89 233 $50 mdse(didnt accept cash)
Megan Stroh 72 78 89 239 $25 mdse(didnt accept cash)
Susan Macaluso 75 75 92 242 $25

Reading that, it looks like both of them accepted merchandise. Just wondering...

Yes, I did. I also took cash in Arkansas in May. Now that I've figured out how to cope with my hand, I anticipate my game will improve as I figure out left handed putting.

I signed up for Peoria as a pro master. As I am still under 850, I can play advanced in most local events if I want to, too.

I was standing there when Megan declined her cash and it came to me. That was an error and will be corrected. Megan didn't get ANYTHING.

Jessica can't take merch instead of cash as this was a B-tier PDGA sanctioned event. Megan declined her cash and took nothing.



Sounds like you're tring to ruin someone's day



Funny, I bet if this was a guy pointing out the rules, you wouldn't say that. I am not trying to rain on anyone's parade, but as an official and knowing how the rules read, it is my responsibility to point out things that are not being handled by the RULES, not my rules, but PDGA rules.

preach on girl

Precisely, The TD made the call.. and I bet since the division didn't say Open or Advanced he can do what he pleases. Just because you insinuated it was an open division doesn't mean it was.

Oh yes it was, and it is being addressed. I've been on the phone with Will Timmons. I knew it was an open division as Emily Lawrence played it last year by herself. We actually thought she was coming this weekend too. The SN organization uses different wording and it can sometimes be confusing.

I was told it was advanced/open..Phil you are right, if the TD wants to give Jessica discs then by all means he can do it. She declined cash he offered discs, that would work for me!

Also, given the way you North Texas folks are responding, I'm sure glad I live in Houston.

Also, given the way you North Texas folks are responding, I'm sure glad I live in Houston.


we are too ;)

I think it was pretty generous to get paid cash for last place

Also, given the way you North Texas folks are responding, I'm sure glad I live in Houston.


we are too ;)



Glad to see we can agree on something.

Just because you knew it was open SUE that does not mean everyone knew, I did not..and everyone that came with us did not know. If they don't want it to be confusing it should be: Intermediate, Advanced, Open..that's not confusing to me.

It was an OPEN division. Jess didnt want to accept cash. Kevin just threw in some plastic for her. As far as the $50 cash, I have no idea where it went. Good luck

that is how the PDGA works when everyone in front of you declines,. DUH

Jessica can't take merch instead of cash as this was a B-tier PDGA sanctioned event. Megan declined her cash and took nothing.



Sounds like you're tring to ruin someone's day


No, I about flipped when I saw those results posted saying that my daughter Megan accepted prizes in lieu of cash when playing in a Pro division, because I know that doing so in a PDGA sanctioned event makes you a pro.

Thank you SueMac for verifying that Megan declined the cash and took nothing. Megan knows the rules so that results list was confusing.

If you thought you could accept prizes in lieu of cash in a PDGA sanctioned event and retain your amateur status, you should be thanking SueMac for educating you instead of harping on her.

Megan knew about it. I wish that Matt was on line today to back me up on this, however they are getting ready for her to fly out in the morning. I'm sure he'll make a comment when he gets back to his computer.

And talk to the SN folks about the "unclear" labeling of divisions. That wasn't my doing. LOL

No matter what you might think at this moment, this was not intended to stir the pot in a negative light. Get over it.

It was an OPEN division. Jess didnt want to accept cash. Kevin just threw in some plastic for her. As far as the $50 cash, I have no idea where it went. Good luck



Wow, I wish when a TD "threw" some plastic my way, I got to go through the bins and select with a consult with my hubby on what to purchase and then call it a "throw out" from the TD. What I obseved was someone who had $50 to spend and was deciding on what to take.

I'm sure he'll make a comment when he gets back to his computer.





Im sure no one will care.

Sue you tried to stir the pot during the tournament...that was very uncool of you.

Im just glad to see women playing tournaments and playing golf in general. Im sure this will get resolved somehow. Im really not sure what happened because I was too busy sulcking in my own defeat.

Wow, I wish when a TD "threw" some plastic my way, I got to go through the bins and select with a consult with my hubby on what to purchase and then call it a "throw out" from the TD. What I obseved was someone who had $50 to spend and was deciding on what to take.


Uh oh. Sounds like we have a new pro who can now stop playing tournaments because of the high pro entry fees. :p

Get over it! You lost, I lost who cares!! We had fun when we went to the lake!

$50 bucks? what is that 2 discs? woohoo, only one more than Sue got.

Wow, I wish when a TD "threw" some plastic my way, I got to go through the bins and select with a consult with my hubby on what to purchase and then call it a "throw out" from the TD. What I obseved was someone who had $50 to spend and was deciding on what to take.


Uh oh. Sounds like we have a new pro who can now stop playing tournaments because of the high pro entry fees. :p



She'll be fine as long as she plays Sue Mac

$50 bucks? what is that 2 discs? woohoo, only one more than Sue got.



Nope, remember I TOOK THE CASH!

She'll be fine as long as she plays Sue Mac



That makes me laugh, she's half my age, and doesn't have the swollen hands l live with every day.

I PLAY FOR FUN HOW ABOUT YOU?

So you got money and a disc? What is a "throw out"?

I didn't take any discs. Got all I need.

The "throw out" I was referring to was the discs that Kevin supposedly just "gave" her. Did he select those discs? I know he didn't as I watched the whole event happen. She picked and took what she wanted, not what he gave her.

She'll be fine as long as she plays Sue Mac



That makes me laugh, she's half my age, and doesn't have the swollen hands l live with every day.

I PLAY FOR FUN HOW ABOUT YOU?



I love to lose. I'm such a winner at life, I need to play frisbee golf to balance it out.

I play cause I am a lard butt and need exercise! Plus it's fun!

You are a loser..but we let you stick around cause it makes us feel better about ourselves. You know I am kidding -

You are a loser..but we let you stick around cause it makes us feel better about ourselves.

ouch

You are a loser..but we let you stick around cause it makes us feel better about ourselves.



Thanks. I feel better now.

I may lose, but I beat you guys

Jess tried all three discs out at Lake Bistenau and LOVES all of them and thanks you all very much.. especially you SUE. :D

If the payout in a 3 person division was $50 for 1st and $25 for 2nd, and both 1st and 2nd declined the cash, then 3rd should've received $75.

What happened?

from what I can tell is Jess took merch and turned pro so that left $25 which sue got. Welcome to the Pro ranks of the PDGA!! :D

"Turning Pro
A player relinquishes amateur status by registering in a professional division with the PDGA, or by competing in a professional
division at a PDGA Tour event and accepting prize money (cash) based on place of finish. A player also relinquishes amateur
status by accepting prizes in lieu of prize money (cash) for placing in a professional division at a PDGA event.
Reclassification"

You sure did beat us! That rain made me play like crap..

from what I can tell is Jess took merch and turned pro so that left $25 which sue got. Welcome to the Pro ranks of the PDGA!! :D

"Turning Pro
A player relinquishes amateur status by registering in a professional division with the PDGA, or by competing in a professional
division at a PDGA Tour event and accepting prize money (cash) based on place of finish. A player also relinquishes amateur
status by accepting prizes in lieu of prize money (cash) for placing in a professional division at a PDGA event.
Reclassification"



Why are you guys all under the assumption that because she turned the cash into plastic, she is refusing to turn pro???

you guys assume toooooo much

from what I can tell is Jess took merch and turned pro so that left $25 which sue got. Welcome to the Pro ranks of the PDGA!! :D

"Turning Pro
A player relinquishes amateur status by registering in a professional division with the PDGA, or by competing in a professional
division at a PDGA Tour event and accepting prize money (cash) based on place of finish. A player also relinquishes amateur
status by accepting prizes in lieu of prize money (cash) for placing in a professional division at a PDGA event.
Reclassification"



Why are you guys all under the assumption that because she turned the cash into plastic, she is refusing to turn pro???

you guys assume toooooo much



Why do you assume, I assume? you [censored]

You know what you do when you ASSume.

you win???
no wait.... you lose?
o yeah i got it... you don't win or lose.... you... damnit. nevermind.
no i don't know what happens. sorry /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

So, did she take the cash or not, it is an easy question. Why the need to make such mean and negative comments.


Clarification, communication, whatever you want to call it.

The answer to that question will solve everything. She just couldn't take merch valued at $50 and retain her am status. And if she declined, and Megan declined, the RULES state the money pays down to the next person who just happens to be me.

Sue the best thing would be to contact the TD and see how things were reported. It seems both sides are confused and he should be able to clarify everything.

OMG..Sue..she is not refusing to turn pro..she took her cash and got plastic..thats it.

Great to hear!

OMG..Sue..she is not refusing to turn pro..she took her cash and got plastic..thats it.


Then the results that were posted up thread should not say "declined cash".

TD will have to fix..
or you can just complain your butt off on a retarted message board, ignoramus

Bwahaha! Your sig line is great Phil!

Philthy and krazyputts, you have no idea what you're talking about. Sue just wants the cash she deserves as would anyone else. If your on the discussion board you must be a member of the PDGA, which means you have a rule book. I suggest you read it. I hope I never have to play or see you guys ever...



See ya at 6:30 :D

Love you too! :p

yeah, It's temporary hopefully.
"tactless" just didn't rhyme like I was hoping

I�ve been trying to decide whether or not I was going to weigh in on this issue. I wasn�t at the tournament, and I haven�t spoken directly to any of the parties involved. That being said, I�ve become increasingly frustrated reading this thread. There are too many accusations and assumptions being made and too much name calling going around. Still, from reading this thread, there are some important issues that have come to mind:

1) Divisions need to be clearly defined at a PDGA sanctioned tournament so that they match the names and descriptions given in the official PDGA divisions guide.
2) There is a need to review the divisions available to women playing both PDGA sanctioned and unsanctioned events. There are many tournaments that I have gone to where I was one of maybe 2 or 3 women, if that. If there are Open, Advanced, Intermediate, and Rec divisions available, and only 3 women playing, it is entirely possible that each woman has signed up for a different division. I�ve found myself jumping from Rec to Adv to Int and back up to Adv just so that I�ll be in a division with someone else (anyone else!). I�m not sure what the solution is at this point, except to get more women to play, but I think the situation which has come up certainly speaks to this point.
3) Perhaps most importantly, since female participation is lacking in disc golf today, it is important that we, as female disc golfers, stick together and work as a group to resolve issues. Suemac has brought up the point that because Jess accepted merchandise in place of cash at a PDGA sanctioned event, she is now obligated to move up to pro. Since Jess hasn�t said whether or not this is her intention, there is really nothing to argue about at this point. If it�s not Jess�s intention, the point I would make is that someone should have made the rule clear to her before she was required to make a choice whether to accept the cash, merchandise, or nothing. Stick together! If it is her intention, go Jess! She�s not going to have a problem. She�s a strong player and improving all the time. The thing is, that if I had been in her position, and been offered the merchandise, and the TD implied that by doing so I didn�t have to move up, I�m not sure I would have known what to do, so it�s great that Suemac has brought up this issue. The problem is when the inquiry turned into name calling... it's really not worth that!

I don�t want to go on and on, I just wanted to get these thoughts out there! I hope to see everyone out there this weekend at the Fahrenheit Fling!

-Heidi

WOMEN(3)
Jessica Clark 76 68 89 233 $50 mdse(didnt accept cash)
Megan Stroh 72 78 89 239 $25 mdse(didnt accept cash)
Susan Macaluso 75 75 92 242 $25



ok, if this was a pro division, if Jessica or megan excepted anything other than a trophy, they are now a pro and no longer have Am status. They can still play in there rating group, but can't play Am Worlds.

if this was a pro division, and both of the 1st 2 declined the cash, all the cash should have gone to Susan.

Susan, how much did you win????

Jess is BA!! She kicks my butt all the time!

ok, i just read the rest of the thread.

Looks like the totals were listed wrong and Jessica is now a pro.

Good for her.

As for jumping all over Sue, there are better reasons to jump on her than this :o

Suzan, bring up some women to the Carrollton Open, Just ask D, we had a Pro Masters Women division last year.

Jessica welcome to the "Pro" ranks and Megan didn't take anything. Heck she had to use my discs all weekend and could have used some new ones but she knows the rules.

just to make things clear i never took the cash and the tournament director tried to give me merch i told him the PDGA rules were to send it down to the next women player and i took NOTHING.. so i am still an AM PLAYER...

Heidi, you're awesome for being the only one to post with a view from both sides.
As for the name calling, I apologize. I was in a defensive position because of the way comments are interpreted when they're in writing. Sue, you could have said something at the Tourney when you were "watching the whole thing". Jessica and I are relativley new players and Jessica asked the TD a question and she took his answer. She didn't know any different.
All that aside and burying the hatchet, Jess is looking forward to playing in the Pro division regardless of how the TD "Officially" places the division. Maybe someday she'll get a login for this silly board and I won't have to open my fat mouth anymore /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Heidi, you're awesome for being the only one to post with a view from both sides.
As for the name calling, I apologize. I was in a defensive position because of the way comments are interpreted when they're in writing. Sue, you could have said something at the Tourney when you were "watching the whole thing". Jessica and I are relativley new players and Jessica asked the TD a question and she took his answer. She didn't know any different.
All that aside and burying the hatchet, Jess is looking forward to playing in the Pro division regardless of how the TD "Officially" places the division. Maybe someday she'll get a login for this silly board and I won't have to open my fat mouth anymore /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif



Before and during the awards, it didn't even occur to me what was taking place. Only, the next day when I saw the TD posting did I have a question. As Jess's cash didnt' flow down, I assumed she'd taken cash.

Unless you are going to Worlds, it isn't a big deal. And as long as our ratings are under 850, you can still play FW!.

So, Congrats and hey guys, I'm not a bad person. Just want to follow the stink'n rules. :D

you cant really blame anyone for thinking that she turned downed cash for merch. because usually pros dont immediately purchase discs. at the awards.

when scores posted?

OPEN(15)
J.D. Ramirez 56 59 68 183
Matt Hall 62 62 69 193
Vinnie Miller 62 63 68 193
John Fowler 61 59 73 193
Mike Kernan 63 64 72 199
Paul Lowery 62 64 74 200
Jamie Callis 66 62 73 201
Will Timmons 63 65 75 203
John Jennings 64 63 78 205
Jose' Ossa 65 68 76 209
Joe Hague III 69 64 77 210
Ryan Pickens 66 70 76 212
Guy Boyan 69 67 79 215
Mike Brown 62 74 79 215
Chris Farnham 69 62 DNF

MASTER(8)
Dieter Nuemann 63 65 74 202
Ron Silliman 60 68 77 205
John Taylor 65 66 79 210
Mark Wilson 65 69 78 212
Robert Randolf 64 70 82 216
Rusty Banks 69 69 80 218
Joe Matz 67 64 91 222
Johnny Reed 63 72 DNF

GRANDMASTER(2)
Joel Bennett 70 59 85 214
Alan Byrd 78 68 85 231

SR. GRANDMASTER(3)
Marvin McVay 63 60 56 179
Mark Robinson 77 73 62 212
Joal McKenzie 76 77 68 221

WOMEN(3)
Jessica Clark 76 68 89 233
Megan Stroh 72 78 89 239
Susan Macaluso 75 75 92 242

ADV MEN(19)
Phillip Lynch 70 70 74 214
Sean Weise 64 67 86 217
Joe Herndon 70 70 79 219
Casey Cox 70 67 85 222
Leon Gillard IV 66 71 87 224
Phillip Hall 71 68 85 224
Curt Youngblood 67 73 84 224
Tim Thompson 68 73 84 225
Brandon Jones 72 72 82 226
Chris Zagone 72 70 85 227
Phillip Clark 69 77 83 229
Jason Cowling 73 71 85 229
Giles Sowerby 73 72 86 231
Jamie Gomez 68 77 86 231
Brent Compton 73 79 82 234
Jordan Hudson 74 80 87 241
Pete Hays 70 73 DNF
Curt Young 71 DNF
Scott Ostenfeld 75 DNF

ADV MASTER(6)
Neal Martinez 67 66 79 212
Ray Johnfroe 69 76 86 231
Richard Rogers 73 77 83 233
Paul Houston 77 77 86 240
Don Hill 76 79 85 240
David Dement 78 85 86 249

AM WOMEN(3)
Marie Findley 72 72 94 238
Haleigh Shepherd 75 78 108 261
Michelle Williams 72 71 DNF

AM MEN(24)
Tyler Warehime 69 62 74 205
Mo Findley 70 59 83 212
Billy Williams 70 62 80 212
Matthew Robidas 67 64 82 213
Adam Andrews 70 64 81 215
Justin Hurst 68 62 85 215
Shawn Smith 74 61 80 215
Chris Raach 74 60 83 217
Hayden Henry 71 66 82 219
Micheal Buckley 72 64 86 222
Aaron Procell 77 61 85 223
Chris Nix 77 63 83 223
Kevin Wiemann 80 63 84 227
Jehu Trumbly 78 65 85 228
Brad Brooks 75 65 88 228
Adam Procell 78 64 88 230
Lance Hutchinson 72 68 91 231
Jarred Martinez 80 66 87 233
Tim Council 72 70 91 233
Donald tomasko 79 65 92 236
Jason Powell 81 65 92 238
Robert Raach 80 70 94 244
Scott Duffer 84 74 101 259
Donnie Powell 82 72 DNF

JUNIOR(3)
Daniel Powell 54 72 126
Davis Dunn 54 85 139
Dylan Belanger 54 90 144

NOVICE(2)
Drake King 68 72 140
Zachary Smart 95 87 182

thanks but i ment with pdga!

After AM worlds. :mad:

Patience, Daniel San.

Patience, Daniel San.



Well it is BS on why they are witholding the scores.

Patience, Daniel San.



Well it is BS on why they are witholding the scores.


Please explain the BS part. You seem to be alluding to something here, let's hear it.

Thread. (http://www.sndg.org/forum/read.php?2,103995,104127#msg-104127)

Someone took cash in a pro division in this PDGA sanctioned tournament, and is now attending AMATEUR Worlds and competing as an amateur??? And the TD of the Shreveport tourney is intentionally not reporting the tournament results so that this new Pro can compete in Am Worlds??? Is that what is going on here that you guys want to hint at?

Yet you guys only want to "kind of" bring it up without really bringing it up? What a bunch of friggin' wimps. Either shut the hell up and be party to the conspiracy or else speak up say something about it, and name names.

Like this:


MASTER(8)
Dieter Nuemann 63 65 74 202 $150



He is also registered in Pool E for Am Worlds.


It's not such a tough thing to do.

he can and will be DQ'd from Am worlds if he took the cash.

It does not matter if the TD report is turned in late, it just means he will be DQ'd and any prizes/trophies will be forfeited.

Of course, the TD could just refund all the players there PDGA fees and thereby unsanctioning the tournament.

What was he thinking.

Am Worlds being held this month is not the 2006 Am Worlds, it is the 2007 Am Worlds. After the tournament, several players will go pro.

If it makes you feel any better, a pdga BOD candidate suggested it.

Yes...but does he not hate the rules and the PDGA itself :o

**** i didnt mean to start [censored] i just wanted to have my first two under rouonds on the site...lol bigg shawn

Dang, look who's in third place after round 1. :o

If Dieter didn't take the money then where did it go?He told me that he was going to the am worlds?He said "going off of last year"?I asked him if he was taking the money and he said" yes".So if he didn't take the money then where did it go? I had to get home so I didn't stay for the awards,I just checked the results and saw that there was no money next to his name?

$150.00?????? He only payed me $90.00!!!Hey Kevin you can mail me my $60.00.Thanks 307 Paula Rd McKinney Tx 75069

Yo Ron,

Looks like your friend Dieter could win ADV AM MSTR Worlds. He's in 2nd one off of the pace with the semis and final to go. :confused: :D

John My friends are your friends too

:eek:!