dischick
Jun 12 2007, 11:40 AM
tournament rounds are not typically called when there is a wind advisory. so has there ever been a case in a tournament where a tree, possibly a rather large tree has come down and changed a hole drastically while the round is going on? if so- what was done? if not, is there anything that should be done?
lets say half the players have already played some sort of 350 foot birdy hole, at an NT. tree gets knocked down from the 50 mile an hour winds, in front of the basket or taking over the fairway. and there is still half the feild left to play the hole.
what would be done? is there any type of ruling here? or does the rest of the feild pretty much just have to deal with it?

ck34
Jun 12 2007, 11:48 AM
Deal with it unless it's possible to move the item which would be allowed since it happened during the round. It's only a little more dramatic than situations where a hole gets flooded or the shore line gradually changes during the round such that players have a different OB boundaries depending on when they play the hole. Even a common occurrence such as the wind itself kicking up during a round will make some open holes play quite different for players in different groups in the same division.

rhett
Jun 12 2007, 12:28 PM
A 350 foot hole that is a birdie hole in 50 MPH winds? Wow, y'all are really good where you're from! :)

ck34
Jun 12 2007, 12:36 PM
I think there's a point where "dealing with it" isn't a sufficient response. If a tree falling crushes the basket or literally makes the fairway unplayable, or a flood puts a basket under water, I believe my approach as TD would be to discard all scores on that hole for the round. Considering that we allow scores on 12-hole courses to stand as a round score, I don't see anything that would be a problem with recording a completed round as 17 holes let's say. Now, if a player had aced that hole before the problem arose, I'm not sure how to fairly adjudicate the ace pool in that case. :confused:

rhett
Jun 12 2007, 12:41 PM
Now, if a player had aced that hole before the problem arose, I'm not sure how to fairly adjudicate the ace pool in that case. :confused:


Ya gotta pay the ace, especially if you are going to throw it out and not let the guy/gal keep that Eagle towards their score. Denying them the ace pool on top of that would be downright cruel.

august
Jun 12 2007, 01:31 PM
I would think that if the weather was such that trees were blowing over and areas on the course were becoming flooded, then perhaps it's time to stop the round (ya think?). Continuing play under such conditions could end up with someone getting hurt or killed.

johnrock
Jun 12 2007, 01:51 PM
Events on ski hill courses are susceptible to those occurances. In Sipapu, NM one year a tree fell on Hole #9 during the round. Sure, it's only one tree out of a million in that area, but I could see where if a certain tree fell during play, it could cause different scores for groups that play it at different times.

junnila
Jun 12 2007, 02:23 PM
Events on ski hill courses are susceptible to those occurances.



Very true (http://discgolftv.com/dgtv/29/1/1)

dischick
Jun 13 2007, 09:45 AM
last thursday winds were like 40+, and it made me think of what would be done in a situation, considering rounds are never called when there is a wind advisory. i have played some events with winds that are even higher. i am surprised this hasnt already happened. i asked a staff person at DGLO and they had no idea what would be done.

it definately would not be right to deny someone of an ace- "yeah, sorry, your ace doesnt count". that might create some problems.

virtualwolf
Jun 27 2007, 01:06 AM
Now, if a player had aced that hole before the problem arose, I'm not sure how to fairly adjudicate the ace pool in that case. :confused:



How about letting the people that didn't get to throw that hole each take a shot at hole of comparable length? Then if someone makes it, split it, if nobody else gets the ace then the person with the only ace gets the pot.