McCabe
May 22 2007, 04:47 PM
Good times WILL be had!! If you haven't experienced a Dynamic Discs event yet, you WONT want to miss this one!
For more info, or to register, go here:
http://mysite.verizon.net/resr6nho/entry_forms/DynamicsDiscsLewisvilleOpenFlyer.pdf
chessguy13
May 22 2007, 05:03 PM
Jarred and I stopped by and played the Lewisville course on the way home from Tulsa Am Worlds last summer. We loved the course (mostly open if I remember right) and look forward to playing the tournament. See ya'll there!
McCabe
May 22 2007, 05:38 PM
Add an extra $5 for ACE POT!
okcacehole
May 22 2007, 10:22 PM
Discraft and Gateway payout only?
I saw a few Twisted Discs on your site
Smitty2004
May 22 2007, 10:30 PM
Discraft and Gateway payout only?
Rusco has it all. So to answer your question, No.
The man and his company are going to be big in the near future! He knows how to treat the players.
Everybody come and bring a couple of bodies.
Smitty
DOC65
May 22 2007, 11:54 PM
Discraft and Gateway payout only?
I saw a few Twisted Discs on your site
He will have everything including a CTP for a Chainstar!!!
http://mysite.verizon.net/resr6nho/images/DDLewisvilleOpen.png (http://mysite.verizon.net/resr6nho/entry_forms/DynamicsDiscsLewisvilleOpenFlyer.pdf)
okcacehole
May 23 2007, 12:56 AM
are you capping the event?
next question off the flyer :D
McCabe
May 23 2007, 01:06 AM
We are capping the event at 180...Registration is now open!!
DOC65
May 25 2007, 09:57 AM
Flyer updated with additional payment option to use paypal
i hear you throw a great tourney.. i will be trying to make a funky town presence felt there. we'll see.. hope lee's foot is healed by then..
anyways can't wait till the 30th.. see you guys then /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
McCabe
May 28 2007, 03:12 AM
This event WILL be a MUST! You Don't want to miss it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DOC65
May 30 2007, 02:13 PM
All you locals swing by Mr. Jim's Pizza in Carrollton and thank Bryan for helping to make this a can't miss event!!!
TeamUDGP
May 30 2007, 06:35 PM
When is TitleDisc going to have it listed?
Pizza God
May 30 2007, 06:42 PM
All you locals swing by Mr. Jim's Pizza in Carrollton and thank Bryan for helping to make this a can't miss event!!!
That would be South Carrollton, near Jimmy Porter :D
DOC65
May 31 2007, 09:23 AM
When is TitleDisc going to have it listed?
I'll see if I can find out.
Paypal is also an option listed on the bottom of the pdf.
Pizza God
May 31 2007, 02:01 PM
paypal done.
Unfortuatly, I don't know if my health is going to let me play any more tournament this summer. I can barely walk today.
however, even if I can't walk the course, I can help staff, maybe even spot a hole, as long as I don't have to stand up all day.
the_kid
May 31 2007, 02:18 PM
I may just have to fly down and play this one. :D
jbolstead
May 31 2007, 04:12 PM
I may just have to fly down and play this one. :D
Consider us all blessed to have your presence :)
Let me know if you and any other Gateway players make it down for this.
Rusco
May 31 2007, 10:39 PM
$350 in cash sponsorships so far! This is going to be an awesome event with great payout! More info to come very shortly as things are moving along quickly now! Fundraiser discs will also help increase payout.
An online registration list will be updated soon. Entries can be sent to
[email protected] through paypal. Please include relevant information and the $2 paypal fee.
Look forward to seeing everyone!
Rusco
Jun 05 2007, 05:05 PM
$1000 minimum in added cash for this event but more sponsorships should be on their way! $500 minimum to the pro divisions and $500 to the Am divisions. Put this event on your calendar. Full color fund raiser discs will really help increase this added cash as well.
There will be lunch served at Lake Park both days. Both days are all you can eat for just $5! Saturday is burgers and such and Sunday is beef brisket!!!!
Dynamic Discs Dubs will be Friday from 2-6 flex start time. Two Divisions: cash & plastic each at $30 per team. 100% payout
about time to bring this event's thread back to the top.
can't wait till the end of the month.
looking forward to playing my first one in lewisville.
/msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
just bringing this one back to the top again /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
anyone have a list of preregs?? :confused:
players list you tard (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6946)
thanks gimpy
Not a problem limpy :o:D
Pogis
Jun 13 2007, 04:07 PM
He may be gimpy, but at least he is playing where he should be! :eek:
He may be gimpy, but at least he is playing where he should be! :eek:
BURRRRNNNNN!!!!!!!
Perhaps he should come join the 1 stroke out club.. ;)
Pogis
Jun 13 2007, 05:38 PM
I say that you cant join the club until you have done this atleast 3 times. Just makes it fair. :D
cgflesner
Jun 13 2007, 06:10 PM
Just glad you one strokers are donating :o
Just glad you one strokers are donating :o
:) :D:eek: ;)
I say that you cant join the club until you have done this atleast 3 times. Just makes it fair. :D
Uh hum......
#1 - Crawford Park ( Mace Man North Tx Series ) this spring
one out of cash
#2 Flightline Open ( what an awful final 9 ) 1 out of cash
#3 Ardmore - one out of cash
Would you like a stool sample , and my mothers maiden name to get into this " one out " club ???
Dont worry " Natural one " I plan on leaving this club before you do !!!! :D
Just glad you one strokers are donating :o
Glad to be of assistance ......... Just make sure you remember those words..... They WILL come back to haunt you. :D
Liz_Lopez
Jun 13 2007, 10:15 PM
I say that you cant join the club until you have done this atleast 3 times. Just makes it fair. :D
Uh hum......
#1 - Crawford Park ( Mace Man North Tx Series ) this spring
one out of cash
#2 Flightline Open ( what an awful final 9 ) 1 out of cash
#3 Ardmore - one out of cash
Would you like a stool sample , and my mothers maiden name to get into this " one out " club ???
Dont worry " Natural one " I plan on leaving this club before you do !!!! :D
hahahahaha
Pogis
Jun 13 2007, 11:18 PM
I wasnt saying you cant be in it, I just didnt know you had one stroked 3 times. And as far as you leaving the club before I do, go for it. We all know what will happen.
cgflesner
Jun 14 2007, 08:41 AM
I don't want to hear it anymore. Look at the all the missed cash the last couple of years on my profile. Every time I am the first guy to not get paid.
And as far as you leaving the club before I do, go for it. We all know what will happen.
We shall see my friend....... We shall see ...
As for you CGF, you sir are well established in your disc golf career.... We are just trying to catch up with you!!
I don't want to hear it anymore. Look at the all the missed cash the last couple of years on my profile. Every time I am the first guy to not get paid.
coughcough a-z coughcough
Sup Miles ?
Pogis
Jun 14 2007, 04:56 PM
So um, is there a tourney in Lewisville? Or is this a Funkytown funnies thread?! :DWent out there yesterday and shot an amazing 1 down. That will most surely cash!!! :D
cgflesner
Jun 14 2007, 05:33 PM
Only if abunch of advanced players deciede to play open. :o
I think you need to average a -4 to cash.
-10 is there on both courses.
And if somebody was going by the same payout as the year before in A-Z we cashed.
TeamUDGP
Jun 14 2007, 05:59 PM
Fleshner, I'm going to put it in your eye.
DOC65
Jun 14 2007, 06:03 PM
Some tournament updates:
Jeremy is working on the entries on TitleDisc. All the information was given to them so it should be showing up any day.
The Reaper Stamp is available as a full color fundraiser disc. Let me know or email Jeremy if your interested in a Surge, Buzzz or Challenger with this stamp.
Entries are starting to roll in so a players list should show up next week.
Here is the Reaper stamp if you haven't seen it yet. You can also click on it to see the latest tournament flyer for any other info:
http://mysite.verizon.net/resr6nho/images/dynamic_discs_reaper.jpg (http://mysite.verizon.net/resr6nho/entry_forms/DynamicsDiscsLewisvilleOpenFlyer.pdf)
Only if abunch of advanced players deciede to play open. :o
Tisk tisk, take it easy on all the guys putting money in your pockeT ! :D
cgflesner
Jun 15 2007, 11:21 AM
What are you talking about?
Just messing with Miles. And that is the only way -4 for the tournament would cash. What do you care your not an Advanced bagger?
TeamUDGP
Jun 15 2007, 11:46 AM
http://www.spec2000.net/images/eyeball.jpg
DOC65
Jun 15 2007, 01:18 PM
Prices for the Reaper stamped discs are $20 for 1 or $40 for two plus a mini.
time again to bring this back to the top.
12 more days..
can,t wait /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
McCabe
Jun 18 2007, 04:53 PM
This is going to be a GREAT Event!! Sign up NOW!!!
DOC65
Jun 21 2007, 09:10 AM
TitleDisc issues have finally been squared away!!! Sign up now --> HERE (http://www.titledisc.com/Events/Lewisville_Open.php)
Get your entry in now!!!!
Phillipc
Jun 21 2007, 10:35 AM
I don't get it :confused:
your eye?
cgflesner
Jun 21 2007, 12:06 PM
Good. Thought I was the only one. :confused:
Can't wait for next weekend!
We are playing sidewalk and beyond OB at LL Woods right.
DOC65
Jun 21 2007, 12:13 PM
For the current players list go --> HERE (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6946)
Phillipc
Jun 21 2007, 01:18 PM
wait.. nevermind.. I got it.
:D
just signed up
the funky ones cometh :cool:
DOC65
Jun 21 2007, 03:19 PM
Cool, that's two now where are the rest of them? :eek: :D
24460
Jun 21 2007, 04:54 PM
I will be there....that is 3
miles and lee say they're coming too. chris (aka sissy llala) too
/msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
that's 6
miles and lee say they're coming too. chris (aka sissy llala) too
/msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
that's 6
Lee is still not 100% on this , unfortunately work may have to come first......... :mad:
Pogis
Jun 21 2007, 07:03 PM
My work will come second! I will be there!
Hey sissy llala, want to play doubles?!
DOC65
Jun 21 2007, 09:17 PM
that's 6
Keep'em coming!!!
cgflesner
Jun 21 2007, 11:31 PM
Sure.
EasyMoney :D
Phillipc
Jun 22 2007, 12:08 AM
Is it still easy money "con uno ojo?"
31296
Jun 22 2007, 02:36 AM
Hey Jeremy, have you figured out how you're going to work the OB on L.L. Woods? Himing ran that one last year and I found out the hard way just how much that guy loves OB!
Will you be doing ALL concrete and beyond OB?
gnduke
Jun 22 2007, 09:13 AM
It should play that way for the PRO and Advanced guys.
Or more precisely, Only the grass that is contiguous with the basket is in bounds. On holes 9, 15, and 16, the tee box is surrounded by OB and you have to cross the concrete to get in bounds.
If my memory is correct, the baskets for 5 and 7 have been moved to the same grass area as the tee, but if not, they need to be exempted.
If the wind is up, It makes it quite a challenging course.
cgflesner
Jun 22 2007, 11:49 AM
It must have been a while since you played LL Woods. Hole 5 is no longer long across the sidewalk, it is by the bridge on this side of the creek. And hole 7 was moved to the same side of the creek due to some construction work where they placed a bunch on rocks where the basket used to be.
DOC65
Jun 22 2007, 05:34 PM
Has anybody played the Lake? The water is just below the baskets on 3 and 7 and half of the fairway on 17 is under water. If it stays up it will make those holes very interesting.
I would guess OB and beyond and the 4 long tees will be the norm at LL Woods.
my_hero
Jun 22 2007, 06:01 PM
I remember a few years back seeing the lake take over 3/4 of 17's fairway from L to R. Sounds like a similar situation.
Did i mention that since i cant physically play that i'll *probably* be filming for DGTV? :D
Pogis
Jun 22 2007, 07:09 PM
ooh ooh. Film me film me!!! :D
17280
Jun 22 2007, 07:37 PM
I case you missed it on the front page:
The city of Port Arthur has voted to destroy a big piece of disc golf history.
I grew up playing this park and would like to go back and share it with my kids one day.
There are 10,552 current PDGA members, lets get 10,552 signatures.
Just sign it!!
http://www.petitiononline.com/cetb175g/petition.html
DOC65
Jun 22 2007, 07:57 PM
I remember a few years back seeing the lake take over 3/4 of 17's fairway from L to R. Sounds like a similar situation.
Did i mention that since i cant physically play that i'll *probably* be filming for DGTV? :D
Might be, the water was only about 20' left of the trees out in the middle of 17. So it's 3/4 of the fairway left of the trees.
The water is over the left side trail up 3's fairway and just under the rocks left of the basket. And all the big rocks right of 7's fairway are under water with just the left half of the fairway being dry.
DGTV sounds awsome!!!
Pogis
Jun 22 2007, 08:37 PM
Nuts. More water means lost discs for those that are not of the sponsorship level. And that could get expensive!!! Maybe I could just not throw it in the water. Think it would work?! :D
DRomo
Jun 23 2007, 07:23 PM
I just signed up last night and can't wait until next weekend.
it will never work miles..
you not throw in the water, nah, never mind never work, you'll never do it. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
is it friday yet????????????????? :confused: :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: :mad::mad::mad:
DOC65
Jun 25 2007, 09:20 AM
is it friday yet????????????????? :confused: :mad:
Just a few days to go!!! :D
Looks like more rain on the way the next few days so the lake may not have a chance to go down. :(
A few posts back the question was asked about playing LL from the long tees and all concrete and beyond as OB. My question is why wouldn't you just have everybody play it that way? Except maybe Rec plays all concrete pads? And give them some relief on 16 in case they don't make it on the right side of the path?
cgflesner
Jun 25 2007, 09:42 AM
For speed of play.
No reason for Int and Rec and Women to play long tees.
Pizza God
Jun 25 2007, 12:44 PM
ok, I will try to be there for saturday registration if you need me. I am working close on Friday (usually get home around 1-1:30am) and I am working open to close on Saturday, so I have to be at the store by 9:30am. (then work till about 1am)
So if and only if you really need me,. I will try to show up Saturday morning. (abet with only 4-5 hours of sleep)
is there going to be a prereg update soon? or better yet, just let me know you got me on the list.
thanks
DOC65
Jun 25 2007, 01:46 PM
ok, I will try to be there for saturday registration if you need me. I am working close on Friday (usually get home around 1-1:30am) and I am working open to close on Saturday, so I have to be at the store by 9:30am. (then work till about 1am)
So if and only if you really need me,. I will try to show up Saturday morning. (abet with only 4-5 hours of sleep)
Thanks, I'll let you know for sure later this week!!!
DOC65
Jun 25 2007, 01:48 PM
is there going to be a prereg update soon? or better yet, just let me know you got me on the list.
thanks
I know this link was updated last night: Pre Reg List (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6946)
If your name isn't there send me a PM with your full name and I'll find out for you.
DOC65
Jun 25 2007, 01:54 PM
After looking at that Pre Reg List (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6946) again I'm wondering where are all the 1000 rated Texas players? :confused:
I know one is planning on filming due to a confused groin :eek: :) but there has to be others out there.
DGBAMA92
Jun 25 2007, 03:14 PM
I was out there Sunday afternoon and #3 is nasty. It's a great anti shot. Almost aced #7 with a gut shot using a crush. Should be fun - I'm definitely in. I'm part of the Funkytown and I also represent Arlington. By the way My_Hero, liking the Plastic. :D
WE DONT HAVE 1000 RATED PLAYERS IN DFW....
Except My Hero, Nolan , and JD .......
The schedule for this weekend sucks. The McClellan Classic
will keep all of them Okies north of the red river. :mad:
But that is the way it goes...
DOC65
Jun 25 2007, 03:52 PM
WE DONT HAVE 1000 RATED PLAYERS IN DFW....
Except My Hero, Nolan , and JD .......
Now that the ankle is doing well it will be time to get that rating of yours up there? :eek: :)
It would be good if Nolan and JD can make it. But aren't there others in Texas as well? Not necessarily DFW. I'm just assuming there are, don't really have any reference to go by though.
Oh, I guess we could count EMac in that group since he's moved down. :D
DGBAMA92
Jun 25 2007, 04:05 PM
Yeah Lee... You should play open. :D
DOC65
Jun 25 2007, 05:04 PM
If anyone has any water jugs they'd be willing to bring to the tournament please send me a PM and let me know. We would like to have water around as much as possible.
cgflesner
Jun 25 2007, 05:10 PM
Ya, but I think Matt Hall is traveling. Mike Olse might show up and Joel Kelly will probally be there bagging in the masters division. Think that is all the 1000 rated players we have.
Probally be a bunch of 990+ rated open players.
Pogis
Jun 25 2007, 07:38 PM
Well I just signed up! So there is another 1000 rated (one day :D) golfer on the list!
Yeah Lee... You should play open. :D
I do play open, just cant this weekend..... This pesky little thing called WORK keeps getting in the way of my social life :mad:
Well I just signed up! So there is another 1000 rated (one day :D) golfer on the list!
Dont spend that 200 bucks to fast! :D
DOC65
Jun 25 2007, 08:17 PM
Yeah Lee... You should play open. :D
I do play open, just cant this weekend..... This pesky little thing called WORK keeps getting in the way of my social life :mad:
That thing called work seems to get in the way of all the important matters doesn't it. :confused:
DOC65
Jun 26 2007, 12:56 AM
Does anyone know of any juniors who are going to play? A buddy of mine might bring his son if there are going to be any and his son isn't working this weekend.
Rusco
Jun 26 2007, 01:04 AM
Just got the titleDISC entries tonight! Looks like we'll be adding around 25 more to this list here shortly.
bcoxxx
Jun 26 2007, 12:31 PM
a couple of suggestions after playing both courses yesterday:
- dont use long tees at LLW...the ground will be way too soggy after all the rain this week to use muddy long tees when you have great concrete tees.
- use a drop zone on lake #3 that is visible to the basket. that hole will be a huge slowdown potential and an easy dropzone for those that go in the lake would help. even an easy dropzone will have water less than 10ft from the basket for the 3rd shot and will still be challenging.
- make anywhere in the water on lake #17 OB instead of casual if it's in the water and inside the fence. the fence is underwater and you really cant tell if a submerged disc is inbounds or OB, so make the whole thing OB.
Phillipc
Jun 26 2007, 02:59 PM
Why a drop zone on 3???
there are two routes to that hole.. you're not forced to throw over the water.
quit your job, sell your kids into slavery,keep your dog, and play disc golf /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif lee.
i don't know how many times i have to tell you this.
DOC65
Jun 26 2007, 03:05 PM
Why a drop zone on 3???
there are two routes to that hole.. you're not forced to throw over the water.
You will be this weekend. :eek:
Here is what appears to be a very recent photo of hole 3, 7 and 17. I've added lines and X to represent the tees and baskets as well as the OB fence on 17.
http://mysite.verizon.net/resr6nho/images/LakePark3.png
http://mysite.verizon.net/resr6nho/images/LakePark7.png
http://mysite.verizon.net/resr6nho/images/LakePark17.png
holy crap^^ :eek:
can i have my money back??? :confused:
just kidding, but this should be a different course than what i'm used to. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
besides the soggyness, hows ll woods look?
cgflesner
Jun 26 2007, 03:19 PM
****!
I always hit that tree on 17. Sure hope I don't this weekend. :D
I think he was saying that you can go up the right side on hole #3, there used to be a sally route there but it is **** tight now.
lauranovice
Jun 26 2007, 03:25 PM
Wow!
Is the road under water? That road next to 17 is one of the main entrances to the park, where some people have parked in the past. Did you get these photos from Al Gore with some sort of global warming alterations done? Was there a glacier in Lake Lewisville that melted?
DOC65
Jun 26 2007, 03:39 PM
LL Woods will be wet and the grass may be a bit long. But other than that it shouldn't be much of a problem. A skip hyzer might be tough on 4 though. :)
The right hand route on 3 is about a 8' or smaller hole right now. And if you clip anything slightly and hyzer left your in the water. Only the path is dry and then there is not much fairway to hit even if you do hit the hole clean.
No Al Core touch ups there!! :DYep the road is flooded and may force more parking into the parking lot by 12 tee.
You can tell on 17 that it was taken after the water started to recede a bit. I bet it will be higher today after all this rain last night and today.
bcoxxx
Jun 26 2007, 03:45 PM
those are some very recent pics...that is about what it was like yesterday..it might have gone down a little, but with all the rain upstream from lake lewisville it's not going down much by the weekend...might even be higher.
LLW was fine...it rained like crazy while we were sitting in the parking lot, and the course was playable and not very soggy just 30min later.
why a drop zone on 3? because even the inside route has water now. it's that high.
Pogis
Jun 26 2007, 07:08 PM
Lewisville is getting pounded again......... :confused:
baldguy
Jun 26 2007, 07:09 PM
that's actually a very old photo, but it does closely represent the current conditions. Those photos have been on google maps for about 4 years. That's how long it has been since the lake was this high... in fact, I think it's several inches higher now than it was then.
gonna be a fun tournament :)
DOC65
Jun 26 2007, 07:34 PM
that's actually a very old photo, but it does closely represent the current conditions. Those photos have been on google maps for about 4 years. That's how long it has been since the lake was this high... in fact, I think it's several inches higher now than it was then.
gonna be a fun tournament :)
Check out the photos from maps.live.com. Those look more like what it's been like before all this rain started.
seewhere
Jun 26 2007, 09:04 PM
if you zoom in with aerial (hope I dont getted Banned) :D it looks like a tournament !! see you guys friday. is there doubles? if so where and what time thanks
DOC65
Jun 26 2007, 09:15 PM
if you zoom in with aerial (hope I dont getted Banned) :D it looks like a tournament !! see you guys friday. is there doubles? if so where and what time thanks
Doubles will be at the Lake with flex start from 2:00 to 6:00.
seewhere
Jun 26 2007, 10:45 PM
thanks
seewhere
Jun 27 2007, 10:39 AM
are we going to be able to play the lake course with more rain on the way? maybe some portables could be set-up for the baskets right on the water
cgflesner
Jun 27 2007, 10:51 AM
80% today
60% Thur
50% Sat and Sun :D
Don't be scared c-ware. Just means that a 44 might win doubles this year instead of a 40.
How many open players is Austin gona represent?
I think we could get close to 25 or 30 if they keep coming in.
Pogis
Jun 27 2007, 10:51 AM
I will am heading out there later today to play or just look around. I will post what I see.
seewhere
Jun 27 2007, 11:12 AM
weather report for this weekend:
Jun 27 Today
A few showers this morning with numerous thunderstorms developing during the afternoon hours. High 81F. Winds SSW at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 80%. Rainfall may reach one inch. Locally heavier rainfall possible.
Jun 27 Tonight
Thunderstorms likely. Low 72F. Winds S at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 80%.
Jun 28 Tomorrow
Mixed clouds and sun with scattered thunderstorms. High 83F. Winds S at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 60%.
Jun 28 Tomorrow night
Variable clouds with scattered thunderstorms. Low 72F. Winds light and variable. Chance of rain 60%.
Jun 29 Friday
Scattered thunderstorms. Highs in the mid 80s and lows in the low 70s.
Jun 30 Saturday
A few thunderstorms possible. Highs in the low 80s and lows in the low 70s.
Jul 1 Sunday
A few thunderstorms possible. Highs in the low 80s and lows in the low 70s.
DOC65
Jun 27 2007, 11:38 AM
I'll be going out there later tonight as well.
I can say that it's higher this morning than it was yesterday. A friend here at work lives on the lake. He said when he left home this morning it was the highest he's ever seen it in his back yard in the 10 years he's been living there.
Number 3 and 7 may be island greens so bring your poles or disc divers!! :eek: :D
Right now the flow rate out of the lake is 3300cfs and it's 6.62 above normal. Ray Roberts is close to the same so it won't be going down very fast.
bcoxxx
Jun 27 2007, 01:50 PM
Just saw on fox news 12pm today that "All day use areas of Lake Park in Lewisville are closed to the public" for two weeks due to high water. They said that Tuesday the water was higher than it had been since 1992, and it had risen two more feet last night.
Whoever is running this thing needs to get with the city to see how it affects the tournament...is there a backup plan??
great :mad:
that sucks.
does this mean we will be playing ll woods all weekend? :confused:
that would blow. :mad:
great :mad:
that sucks.
does this mean we will be playing ll woods all weekend? :confused:
that would blow. :mad:
SUDDENLY I DO NOT FEEL SO BAD ABOUT WORKING SATURDAY! :D
seewhere
Jun 27 2007, 02:00 PM
WOW traveling players need to know what is going on ? if it LL all weekend count me out.
DOC65
Jun 27 2007, 02:21 PM
Just saw on fox news 12pm today that "All day use areas of Lake Park in Lewisville are closed to the public" for two weeks due to high water. They said that Tuesday the water was higher than it had been since 1992, and it had risen two more feet last night.
Whoever is running this thing needs to get with the city to see how it affects the tournament...is there a backup plan??
We are checking on that right now. I know the Corps of Engineers boat ramp just across the lake from the park is closed.
I'll let ya'll know what I find out as soon as I can.
I also noticed the the lake level website shows no water being let out which means it will still be rising since Ray Roberts hasn't changed anything. I'm hoping that is an error though.
Rusco
Jun 27 2007, 02:30 PM
We are working on it as we speak. We do have a couple options, The plan will be posted sometime tonight.
atxdiscgolfer
Jun 27 2007, 02:31 PM
Denton? not too far from Lewisville and a better course than LL Woods
Just spoke with E-mac, he is scrambling to fix this issue..
Dont cancell your travel plans , this issue will be resolved.
MarcusHazle
Jun 27 2007, 02:58 PM
Jimmy Porter is close as well but a swamp currently - not recomended. Greenbelt could be playable.
baldguy
Jun 27 2007, 03:00 PM
Denton? not too far from Lewisville and a better course than LL Woods
not too far... but a better course? that's debatable :) IMHO, neither course is all that spectacular. Denton is longer, but there are a few silly holes and lots of tall grass and weeds that can be a problem even a few days after a mow. LL is shorter, but more challenging when you play the tighter OB rules (and possibly move a couple teepads). Plus they have nice restrooms and a nicer parking lot... always a plus for tournaments
DRomo
Jun 27 2007, 03:00 PM
Is it possible to get a refund if we choose not to play this weekend ? I work nights and have to be at work at 10 pm Sunday night and I was already gonna be pushing it going to Lewisville. If its moved farther north its gonna make it more difficult on me.
baldguy
Jun 27 2007, 03:03 PM
The Denton course is maybe 15 minutes away from the lake course. Both are a few minutes off the highway. headquarters would have to be at LL anyway for this size crowd, so you'd be leaving from the same place.
McCabe
Jun 27 2007, 03:04 PM
This just in, Looks like the Tournament is going to be moved to Ceader Hill..Great courses a couple holes will be muddy, but better than under flood water...spread the word!!
baldguy
Jun 27 2007, 03:06 PM
seriously? I mean... Cedar Hill is some great golf and everything... but isn't that a bit of a drastic change?
lauranovice
Jun 27 2007, 03:07 PM
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McCabe
Jun 27 2007, 03:19 PM
seriously? I mean... Cedar Hill is some great golf and everything... but isn't that a bit of a drastic change?
Drastic? No, you must remember this isn't really our choice. We need 2 courses to run this event. Ceader Hill is just going to work out better than anywhere else..sorry for any inconvenience!
DRomo
Jun 27 2007, 03:21 PM
This just in, Looks like the Tournament is going to be moved to Ceader Hill..Great courses a couple holes will be muddy, but better than under flood water...spread the word!!
Sweet Im still in, that makes it closer for me and easier to go to work Sunday night. Good call two great courses one location. :)
baldguy
Jun 27 2007, 03:24 PM
it's not an inconvenience... I just meant drastic from the point of view that it's the Lewisville Open... Cedar Hill is 40 miles away :). Was the LL Woods / Denton option not available?
deathbypar
Jun 27 2007, 03:25 PM
Was the LL Woods / Denton option not available?
Why would anyone want to play those 2 courses when Cedar Hill is an option?
oceanjones
Jun 27 2007, 03:28 PM
I'm with Death on that one.
seewhere
Jun 27 2007, 03:29 PM
has anyone gone to cedar hill to check the conditions and to also see how much more water it will be able to hold? more rain on the way
lauranovice
Jun 27 2007, 03:35 PM
drastic is the amount of water that has come from the sky in the recent days...I say everyone that comes from KS takes a trunkload of gallon buckets of rain water back with them. ;)
Actually, I think Cedar Hill is a great alternative plan. Too bad Lewisville did not work out. I'm sure this has been a huge headache for the TD's already.
BTW, Don Q will have lunch available both days. He's working on the briskets right now...in the rain. Be sure to keep us posted if things change again. I'm assuming you have confirmed everything with Brian Lamarauex and the city of Cedar Hill.?
Although, I do think the post I erased about doing aboard an ark with 18/36 temp baskets is a better idea.
Heidi
Jun 27 2007, 03:35 PM
This is why Denton isn't such a great idea... these are pics from June 18th after the rain...
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2056448&l=d3017&id=25313661
Rusco
Jun 27 2007, 03:39 PM
We are working on it right now. We are for sure going to be running a Double D event at the Lewisville courses..not 100% sure yet just when...but for sure gonna happen...Like Sprout said, Might be Ceader Hill, Bryan is going to be in contact with us about how much water is on the course..
the final decision will be made by tonight..
seriously? I mean... Cedar Hill is some great golf and everything... but isn't that a bit of a drastic change?
Drastic ???? You are going from playing 1 ( at best ) mediocre course, and one nice course. To playing the nicest
36 hole facility in north texas ...... Sounds like a better deal @ Cedar Hill.........
Plus you will not need your scuba gear to play cedar hill...
In the wise words of Malli Vanilli " Blame it on the rain, yeah yeah... " " But what ever you do, dont put the blame on you, blame it on the rain, yeah-yeah " :D
Pogis
Jun 27 2007, 03:41 PM
Wow. Ok.
Wow. Ok.
Dont be scared Miles!
Phillipc
Jun 27 2007, 03:47 PM
Lets go to Rockwall!! :)
DOC65
Jun 27 2007, 04:05 PM
seriously? I mean... Cedar Hill is some great golf and everything... but isn't that a bit of a drastic change?
Drastic ???? You are going from playing 1 ( at best ) mediocre course, and one nice course. To playing the nicest
36 hole facility in north texas ...... Sounds like a better deal @ Cedar Hill.........
I guess your bummed out about having to work again. :D
sandalman
Jun 27 2007, 04:12 PM
is this change official? is there a refund policy for those who are adversely affected by the change?
is this change official? is there a refund policy for those who are adversely affected by the change?
Adversely affected ? I can hear it now....
" I dont shoot as well at Cedar Hill as I do L.L. Woods, so I am not going to play...." Pu$$ies
baldguy
Jun 27 2007, 04:32 PM
I understand the reasoning behind moving the courses, and I understand that Cedar Hill is better golf (I even said that in my original post...). Lee, the thing you're missing is that it's a drastic *location* change. Sure, it's a better deal at Cedar Hill, but in that case, why not just schedule it at Cedar Hill form the beginning? The question I was trying to ask is whether or not there was an attempt to keep the tournament in the Lewisville area. If that wasn't possible, then okay... but there's more to a tournament than just the courses played. Local sponsors, local players, those who have put time into helping make this happen, etc. A lot is affected when moving a location, especially when moving it that far. For instance, Greenbelt and Porter are closer to Lewisville and will be just as playable as Cedar Hill. Not as good, true... but closer to Lewisville. LL Woods will still be playable, so it could have been kept in the mix somehow.
it's true, Cedar hill is some of the best golf in Texas. Certainly a contender for the best 36 holes in one location anywhere. That's great for the players, but more goes into a tournament than the people who show up to play. If we want to continue asking for money from businesses and outside individuals to pad our payouts and help our charities... and help from local players and city officials... we need to be sure we take care of them.
Edit: fixed the spelling in the subject line
24460
Jun 27 2007, 04:36 PM
If the tournament moves to Cedar Hill, then I probably won't be able to play. My sponsor's business is located in Lewisville and he wouldn't want to pay my entry fee if the tourny is somewhere else.
seewhere
Jun 27 2007, 04:46 PM
Edit: fixed the spelling in the subject line
that did not last long :D
my_hero
Jun 27 2007, 04:50 PM
It's not IF. It DID move to Cedar Hill per Emac, Lamoreaux, and O'Connell.
Hey Josh, you know good and well that Greenbelt will be in no condition to play this weekend. With the rain we are expecting , it will be worse than MJCO 06. Sponsors have the right to dictate how their money will be spent. And I can appreciate trying to bring value to their sponsorship dollars.
Logistically , Cedar Hill is the only course that makes sense . Eric has explored all his options , and he has run out !
sandalman
Jun 27 2007, 05:17 PM
It's not IF. It DID move to Cedar Hill per Emac, Lamoreaux, and O'Connell.
last post by an officialite: "the final decision will be made by tonight.."
i would like to be refunded just to make this whole mess more of a pain....
just kidding man, i had to drive the same distance to lewisville as i would to cedar hill, give or take a couple of miles.
it is a bummer though. i was looking forward to playing my first sanctioned event in lewisville.
there's always next year.
and by the way brice you will be missed.... or should i say you would have missed the cash anyways.
just messing.
anyone else hate the rain??? :confused:
baldguy
Jun 27 2007, 05:20 PM
for whatever it's worth, greenbelt for MJCO 2006 was pretty comparable to what cedar hill was like for the cedar hill open 2007. I'd bet that both will be equally sloppy this weekend. Cedar hill isn't known for its spectacular drainage, epsecially on a few particular holes. Most of the ones on the hill(s) will be okay... the ones at the bottoms of those hills will not. Greenbelt is exactly the same. Logistically, neither makes more sense than the other... except that carrollton might keep some sponsorship dollars in the tournament. Throw in LL Woods (still very playable and still in Lewisville), and you've got yourself a tournament. If that option was explored, why was it turned down?
I'm just looking for an explanation... something more than "it's moved, deal with it". I don't think I'm the only curious party.
DOC65
Jun 27 2007, 05:22 PM
Having to make a move has been a tough decision to say the least. And it has made a day feel like a roller coaster ride, with one very long free fall!! :(
And to cap it off, I just got an email that I won a 2007 USDGC Partner Pack. :) And then I find out I received the email in error. :eek: :(
Will this roller coaster ever start the uphill climb. :p
bcoxxx
Jun 27 2007, 05:27 PM
to me, CH will always win out over either carrollton courses playing in heavy rain or after a rain just because all 36 holes at CH have concrete tees. that is a major issue for me with GB and JP...i cant stand alot of the non-concrete tee areas, especially when they're muddy and dangerous.
atxdiscgolfer
Jun 27 2007, 05:35 PM
maybe you should look up at the sky;i bet you get your explanation. :Dwhat is wrong with Cedar Hill? :confused: those are 2 great courses and theres not a creek running through every hole like those crappy Carrollton courses which IMO suck!! you are probably the only guy on here who would rather play Carrolton than Cedar Hill.It seems to me that you are being way too difficult for no apparent reason.I sure wish I could play now that I know it is at Cedar Hill but I have other things going on.From what I hear Eric runs a great tourney, I almost went to Emporia last year to see what all the hype is about.I'm sure everyone on here would rather have the tourney at the lake course but apparently it just cant happen,just like I cant go play Circle C today because you cant cross Slaughter Creek.
Pizza God
Jun 27 2007, 05:39 PM
I talked to Eric this afternoon, I told him I had no problem with using one or both Carrollton courses, however they are REALLY wet. Jimmy Porter was a lake yesterday.
one option to consider would be use LLWoods and Greenbelt. As long as it does not rain much, the course is pretty playable. Only hole 4 has problems. (and we had #11 stolen a few months ago)
I am unable to play this weekend anyways.
on the Water jugs, If held in Cedar Hill, someone will have to come get them from me. I will not be able to show up Saturday morning that far.
On my sponsorship, I sponsor the TD more so than where the tournament is held. So I don't have a problem with that.
the_kid
Jun 27 2007, 05:42 PM
Well if it goes to cedar Hill what H-town golfers are looking to split gas? Ode?
for whatever it's worth, greenbelt for MJCO 2006 was pretty comparable to what cedar hill was like for the cedar hill open 2007. I'd bet that both will be equally sloppy this weekend. Cedar hill isn't known for its spectacular drainage, epsecially on a few particular holes. Most of the ones on the hill(s) will be okay... the ones at the bottoms of those hills will not. Greenbelt is exactly the same. Logistically, neither makes more sense than the other... except that carrollton might keep some sponsorship dollars in the tournament. Throw in LL Woods (still very playable and still in Lewisville), and you've got yourself a tournament. If that option was explored, why was it turned down?
I'm just looking for an explanation... something more than "it's moved, deal with it". I don't think I'm the only curious party.
2007 Cedar Hill is no where near as sloppy as MJCO 2006.
Even after the ice and snow melted.
Eric had mentioned bypassing the problem holes on Beaver ( 5,6,7 ) and setting up some temps.... That takes majority of the slop out of the equation...
ATX- you hit the nail right on the head man! - :D
not that it matters, but i understand that some sponsors would not like the "lewisville open" held at C.H., but desparate times call for desparate measures. i don't think i have ever seen this much rain in june. royally blows.
at least don's bbq will be there. maybe he has some of that "ace beer" left from the z. mmmm beer :D
Nobody can anticipate an act of god... Deal with it , put on your seal skins and play some golf!
Nobody can anticipate an act of god... Deal with it , put on your seal skins and play some golf!
since you will not be playing... may i borrow yours?? /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
sandalman
Jun 27 2007, 05:58 PM
wear chacos and your feets weigh the same wet as dry :) someday the rest of you will see the light :O
wear chacos and your feets weigh the same wet as dry :) someday the rest of you will see the light :O
I would almost be tempted to give the Chacos a try, but with all the underbrush, ivy, thorns, and pokey things I know I would get torn up. How do you keep your feet from getting trashed ?
Nobody can anticipate an act of god... Deal with it , put on your seal skins and play some golf!
since you will not be playing... may i borrow yours?? /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
You are not man enough to fill those shoes ! :D
I mean socks !
sandalman
Jun 27 2007, 06:14 PM
wear chacos and your feets weigh the same wet as dry :) someday the rest of you will see the light :O
I would almost be tempted to give the Chacos a try, but with all the underbrush, ivy, thorns, and pokey things I know I would get torn up. How do you keep your feet from getting trashed ?
um... have you heard of fairways?
Rusco
Jun 27 2007, 06:14 PM
The final decision will be made later this evening on where to play but we are pretty sure that Cedar Hill will be the best fit for the rainy conditions. We would hate to move locations but under these circumstances it might be the best alternative to move to Cedar Hill and host the Lewisville Open later in the year when there is a free weekend.
my_hero
Jun 27 2007, 06:14 PM
How do you keep your feet from getting trashed ?
Have you ever looked at his feet after a rough round. Ewwwwww.
Pat, if your feet are wet they are heavier than if dry. :D
wear chacos and your feets weigh the same wet as dry :) someday the rest of you will see the light :O
I would almost be tempted to give the Chacos a try, but with all the underbrush, ivy, thorns, and pokey things I know I would get torn up. How do you keep your feet from getting trashed ?
um... have you heard of fairways?
I dont get to play on pristeen manicured fairways like you Pat... I am still stuck here in the real world , marching through the woods. :D
baldguy
Jun 27 2007, 06:17 PM
maybe you should look up at the sky;i bet you get your explanation. :Dwhat is wrong with Cedar Hill? :confused: those are 2 great courses and theres not a creek running through every hole like those crappy Carrollton courses which IMO suck!! you are probably the only guy on here who would rather play Carrolton than Cedar Hill.It seems to me that you are being way too difficult for no apparent reason.I sure wish I could play now that I know it is at Cedar Hill but I have other things going on.From what I hear Eric runs a great tourney, I almost went to Emporia last year to see what all the hype is about.I'm sure everyone on here would rather have the tourney at the lake course but apparently it just cant happen,just like I cant go play Circle C today because you cant cross Slaughter Creek.
you obviously didn't read my entire post. I personally don't care where it's played. If I had my choice, I'd play Cedar Hill and rockwall almost exclusively since they are my favorites. The point I was making is that sponsors don't necessarily care that Cedar Hill is awesome if they are located in Lewisville. This is a PDGA B-tier event. added cash is required. sponsors are necessary. volunteer help is necessary. Lots of things go into making a big event. Moving it from one city to another is no small deal, regardless of the quality of golf in one place versus another.
I'm not trying to be difficult, I'm trying to voice concern for an element that has seemed all but ignored. Like many of the posts here, you are focusing on the players. Look at it this way: if all the sponsors pull their money and none of the volunteers can help make this event happen because of the drastic change in location on such short notice... it won't matter where you or I prefer to play because the event will have to be canceled.
The sponsors are supporting the golfers , not the courses.
If they want their recognition, they will stay on board.
You make an extremely valid point. But once again, tournaments are not held for anybody but the competitors.
24460
Jun 27 2007, 06:53 PM
Well I just talked to my sponsor and I have convinced him to pay for entry fee so I will be there. I was really looking forward to playing the Lake course in Lewisville, but I guess the lake course at Cedar Hill will work as well.
See you all this weekend.
baldguy
Jun 27 2007, 07:38 PM
The sponsors are supporting the golfers , not the courses.
If they want their recognition, they will stay on board.
You make an extremely valid point. But once again, tournaments are not held for anybody but the competitors.
individual sponsors like brice's are supporting individual golfers, yes. tournament sponsors are usually not supporting anything in particular, they're trying to attract business. 10% coupons in players packs, their name on teesigns and flyers... maybe even discs and minis... all effective advertising... as long as their target audience is within reasonable distance of their business. 40 miles away? if I'm running a pizza store (let me put myself in Bryan James's shoes for a minute or two) and I have one location, I understand that my business comes from local residents and visitors to my immediate area. I want to target those people, so sponsoring a local disc golf tournament makes sense. maybe they'll stop by for a pizza for lunch, maybe they'll order one form their hotel tonight, whatever... but at least I know that everyone there will be exposed to my business and will likely pick me before they hunt for one of my competitors. That's how advertisement like this works. On the other hand... if I target people outside my delivery area, or people far enough away that it doesn't make sense to drive to my location... how would I get any value for my advertisement dollar?
This is just one factor, but it's an important one. Some thought should be put into protecting the interests of those who have worked or paid to get this event off the ground. I'm not one of those people, so I don't have a personal interest... but I do spend time promoting local disc golf and I do work hard to help some local tournaments get sponsorship. I understand the value of disc golf to the sponsorship community, and I think that moving a tournament 40 miles south is a bad idea if there's a reasonable alternative close to the original location. True, some things cannot be avoided. The weather will force the issue in many cases. More than I care about this particular tournament's location, I care about the ongoing attitude towards sponsors. The posts made here are often read by businesses before they decide if they want to be associated with an event. They are often read after sponsorship money changes hands to see if they are getting their money's worth. If the community doesn't stand up and voice concern when a tournament is uprooted without a good explanation... sponsors will notice. All I'm asking is that all options for keeping it in the lewisville area be exhausted. I want sponsors to know that the TD(s) at least tried. A little effort can say a lot in matters like this. I'm sure that the TD(s) will give a more detailed explanation soon, but we as disc golfers need to understand that what we say and how we act towards an event affects more than just our personal space.
atxdiscgolfer
Jun 27 2007, 07:48 PM
I would think that since we are talking about suburbs here that the sponsors wouldnt just bail because it is another suburb due to rain; I could see your point if they moved the event to houston,ft worth,or austin though.
cgflesner
Jun 27 2007, 07:53 PM
Who cares!
I don't want to read all that krap. Play or don't play, keep your sponsorship money in or don't. I'm gona aveage 1000 for the weekend to try to get my rating back where it should be and could care less how much added money there is.
There is much merit in what you have to say josh, but you must realise, the golfers that wish to play this tournament still live in that area, still spend their tax dollars in that area.
If this event were full of Lewisville locals, you argument would hold water, but considering the bulk of the players live nowhere near lewisville, you perspective does not apply to a majority of the attendees!
MarcusHazle
Jun 27 2007, 08:17 PM
Amen to what Chris said. Thanks for getting the moves and decisions made with in a day of finding out the lake was closed. Keep doing you're thing DD crew. Nobody in Texas is scared of a little rain and wet conditiions. We are Texans right.
Pizza God
Jun 27 2007, 08:20 PM
Who cares!
I don't want to read all that krap. Play or don't play, keep your sponsorship money in or don't. I'm gona aveage 1000 for the weekend to try to get my rating back where it should be and could care less how much added money there is.
Isn't this the guy who said he didn't play anything but A-tier or higher because of the added money :D
Pogis
Jun 27 2007, 08:44 PM
Just got back from cedar hill about 10 min ago. I left early because of rain and the only holes I didnt play were the "sloppy" 5,6,7 on the Beaver. Everything else was very playable. Aced 11 on the beaver. To bad it was 3 days early......
Pogis
Jun 27 2007, 09:08 PM
Isn't this the guy who said he didn't play anything but A-tier or higher because of the added money :D
:eek:
Rusco
Jun 27 2007, 09:09 PM
The tournament has OFFICIALLY been moved to Cedar Hill "Cedarville" for the sake of the tournament. The Lewisville tournament will be rescheduled for later in the year when there is a free weekend. We felt like this was the only way to have the tournament run smoothly and at a park that will be the most playable.
I apologize about any inconvenience that this causes for some players but as a whole it looks like this is the best way to go about things. I think that for every player that we lose, someone else will take their spot. If you paid your entry fee and will not be able to attend just contact me after the event on Monday and we will work out a refund.
Friday doubles will take place at Cedar Hill now at Beaver unless something gets in the way. Flex start time between 2-6 still.
The tournament player meeting will be pushed back to 9:00 A.M. just to make sure that if anyone goes to Lake Park they will have the chance to make it to Cedar.
If anyone has questions or concerns contact Jeremy at 620-786-5314 or email to
[email protected]
Hope to see everyone this weekend. The rain has to clear up sometime right!!!
deathbypar
Jun 27 2007, 10:31 PM
Give it a rest baldguy. :p
Pogis
Jun 27 2007, 10:41 PM
Cool Beans!
cgflesner
Jun 27 2007, 10:42 PM
Who cares!
I don't want to read all that krap. Play or don't play, keep your sponsorship money in or don't. I'm gona aveage 1000 for the weekend to try to get my rating back where it should be and could care less how much added money there is.
Isn't this the guy who said he didn't play anything but A-tier or higher because of the added money :D
Because of the amount of open players that play Texas C-tiers smarty pants. Your tournament isn't an A-tier and has a great payout.
DOC65
Jun 27 2007, 11:30 PM
I went over to the Lake Park course this evening and it is just amazing the amount of water. I walked down to 1's basket and the water is almost up to the base. The bridge to 7 fairway was floating.
The water was even with the top of the railroad ties down the left of 2's fairway and the basket was also just a few feet from the water. Water is over 3's tee and just inches from the basket up on the rocks. 4's tee was under water. Went over to 17 and the tee looked like it was under water and the bottom of the basket was in the water.
Also talked to a Park Ranger. And she said they finally closed the flood gates at Ray Roberts this evening. Last night the water started going over the spillway so they had to open them up which caused Lewisville to rise several feet today. Lewisville is currently 2' from the spillway and they are not letting any water out due to the trinity being so flooded.
Anymore big rains, which we are already getting, and it will most likely be a 100 year type of flood in these parts. Probably is in some areas already.
Moving the tournament was not an easy one for all involved and all options were considered. So please help spread the word that it has been moved and no one is left out!!!
baldguy
Jun 28 2007, 12:05 AM
Who cares!
I don't want to read all that krap. Play or don't play, keep your sponsorship money in or don't. I'm gona aveage 1000 for the weekend to try to get my rating back where it should be and could care less how much added money there is.
This is exactly why our sport suffers in so many ways. a "professional" disc golfer with this attitude... it's truly a crying shame. This, of course, is the same guy who complains about *everything* that affects him in any way, shape or form... basically, if it affect Chris Flesner, it's a huge deal that everyone needs to pay attention to. If it doesn't affect Chris Flesner, who cares? Why even bother reading two paragraphs?
Sometimes it can get so sickening... some people care so little about how things happen, but when they don't, there's he[/b]ll to pay. I pity the tournament directors in our sport, especially when people like this are the ones we have to deal with.
baldguy
Jun 28 2007, 12:14 AM
There is much merit in what you have to say josh, but you must realise, the golfers that wish to play this tournament still live in that area, still spend their tax dollars in that area.
If this event were full of Lewisville locals, you argument would hold water, but considering the bulk of the players live nowhere near lewisville, you perspective does not apply to a majority of the attendees!
this is precicely the point. lewisville sponsors have a captive audience for visiting disc golfers. it's much easier to sell to someone who doesn't know the area over someone who does. plus, every time they come back they are going to remember the good experience they had with the business they found because of sponsorship. At least that's the reason sponsors put money into the events. it's not about where people live, it's about where people *are*. If you really don't get that... I can't help you understand it.
atxdiscgolfer
Jun 28 2007, 12:42 AM
man you should really take a chill pill;if this move that is beyond anyones control and influenced by weather conditions is bothering you then maybe you should go to Lewisville saturday and play your own tournament. Why bash on someones event becuase of weather issues,everyone on here is pumped about the event being at Cedar Hill except you.I have sponsored tournaments before and didnt mind that some of the players lived in the burbs.
baldguy
Jun 28 2007, 12:51 AM
man you should really try reading my posts before responding. I've said more than once that I'm perfectly fine with the event being at Cedar Hill. I'm sure it will be a blast. I've also said that I understand why it needed to be moved. None of what you're trying to say in the above post has anything to do with me or my posts...
What's your point?
jbolstead
Jun 28 2007, 01:06 AM
A. It has been recognized that the tourney is being moved as the only available alternative. I would suggest that these sponsors be recognized at both event to ensure that the local angle is covered.
B. There are not any courses "in the immediate area" that I would see as legit alternatives for the tournament. Moving the tournament south may encourage the huge Austin contingent to show as well while bringing the tourney to better courses that most have played.
C. If open players stopped worrying about trying to make a living at disc golf, casual pros like myself wouldn't be stuck with high entry fees. A $70 entry seems pretty reasonable compared to th $100+ for Z-Boaz. If I am luck, I will play with McCabe at this tourney too!
D. Disc golf suffers many problems. This isn't the thread to discuss such items.
BG - The horse is dead. So, quit beating it.
I hope that this tournament goes off really well because Jeremy's positive attitude and enthusiasm could be a great infusion to the local disc golf scene.
jbolstead
Jun 28 2007, 01:08 AM
Jeremy,
I received your emails. Call me tomorrow to arrange pick/delivery.
baldguy
Jun 28 2007, 01:24 AM
A. It has been recognized that the tourney is being moved as the only available alternative. I would suggest that these sponsors be recognized at both event to ensure that the local angle is covered.
agreed, this is a good idea.
B. There are not any courses "in the immediate area" that I would see as legit alternatives for the tournament. Moving the tournament south may encourage the huge Austin contingent to show as well while bringing the tourney to better courses that most have played.
there are alternatives... my point was that it should be made clear by someone running this tournament why Cedar Hill was chosen over those alternatives.
C. If open players stopped worrying about trying to make a living at disc golf, casual pros like myself wouldn't be stuck with high entry fees. A $70 entry seems pretty reasonable compared to th $100+ for Z-Boaz. If I am luck, I will play with McCabe at this tourney too!
not my complaint since I still stink at this sport... but I understand what you mean. strange that this point preceeds the next, though...
D. Disc golf suffers many problems. This isn't the thread to discuss such items.
I disagree. This thread contained a very good example of the problem I was trying to bring to light.
BG - The horse is dead. So, quit beating it.
since you've been mostly civil, I'll take this the best way possible... but even then, it's hardly your place to decide what I'm allowed to discuss. Besides, the only reason it's still being discussed is because people keep responding with ridiculously out-of-context responses that tell me they don't get my point. It obviously needs clarification, at least for some. I'd prefer to just post once and have everyone actually read and attempt to comprehend it... but that is rarely the case.
I hope that this tournament goes off really well because Jeremy's positive attitude and enthusiasm could be a great infusion to the local disc golf scene.
agreed again. I've been supportive all along and I honestly hope this thing goes off as well as possible given the weather we're having. It's encouraging to see a group of local golfers get off their respective tushes and make something happen and anyone who does so will forever have my respect - even if we disagree.
Hopefully someone read and understood the point I've been struggling to make. Perhaps next time a major change has to be made at the last minute, the person making that decision will think about the sponsorship and public representation aspects of that change and will act accordingly. The good news is that (most of) the people running successful tournaments generally have a decent head on their shoulders and will learn as they gain experience. The unfortunate flip-side to that coin is that there are so very many participants who really couldn't care less about anything beyond their own participation. There are a few examples in this thread...
Some of us are working to improve the sport. Some are just having fun playing and that's okay... but if you're not going to help improve the sport... for the love of hedrick please don't stand in our way. What seems like a nuisance now could someday have a very good effect on the events you enjoy.
Pogis
Jun 28 2007, 01:49 AM
So how about this awesome tourney taking place this weekend in Cedar Hill?! I heard it will be a blast?!
Phillipc
Jun 28 2007, 09:01 AM
Don't forget your eyepatch
jeterdawg
Jun 28 2007, 09:19 AM
Does anybody else think it's ironic that the movie Evan Almighty opened last week?!?
McCabe
Jun 28 2007, 09:24 AM
So how about this awesome tourney taking place this weekend in Cedar Hill?! I heard it will be a blast?!
Thanks Miles! Let's get this thread back on track, where it should be!
sandalman
Jun 28 2007, 09:40 AM
josh, you point may have been too subtle for some. a number of us did comprehend you were not dissing the event but making a larger point about the relationship between sponsors and the sport. not everybody needs to get it though. (thankfully :) )
ericb45696
Jun 28 2007, 10:22 AM
jeterdawg..I was thinking the same thing .
Man..I did my first tournament in Abilene last week and had such a good time I signed up for this, of course moving up to intermediate. I figured the two parks in lewisville would be a great challenge but was concerned about the rain also, but kinda figured..hey,it might make it more interesting and fun anyway.
I'm ready for cedar hill though, I still think it will be a Blast even if it does rain!!
Don't forget guys, you have newer people to tournaments like me comeing in every weekend and the impression y'all make lasts a long time.
I met some cool people in Abilene and even though it was competitive everyone had a great spirit and I even got some tips and in turn tried to help a few guys myself.
see y'all out there!
cgflesner
Jun 28 2007, 10:29 AM
Give it a rest.
If you think this sport is ever going to go anywhere you are living in a pipe dream. Excuse me for wanting to play a tournament instead of complaing about the sponsorship situation.
seewhere
Jun 28 2007, 10:39 AM
Good luck to all playing and the TD's..
Pogis
Jun 28 2007, 11:08 AM
Yeah!! The Ablinie tourney was awesome! It was well run and done in a timely manner. I would expect this one to be bigger and better!
Rusco
Jun 28 2007, 11:31 AM
http://www.frootloops.net/blog/upload/lewisvillelakecourse/
Take a look at the photos from the Lake....now it makes more sense why we have moved to Cedar Hill!
my_hero
Jun 28 2007, 11:39 AM
Good call. Those pics are worth a million words. I've known that course since it was installed, and have NEVER seen it that high.
james_mccaine
Jun 28 2007, 11:44 AM
Wow, hole 3's pin position is awesome.
Phillipc
Jun 28 2007, 12:04 PM
I second that.. It is now my desktop wallpaper
thank god that cedar hill was an option...
lets all just get pumped that it's still going on and not cancelled.
bring on the hill, or cedarville open.
wahoo
31296
Jun 28 2007, 12:44 PM
Ain't skeeeeered! Bring your dragon and a hydra and we can play lake park all day ya weiners! You might want to bring a snorkel too. Maybe even an Ark...
There's been a lot of whining on the board. Those KS boys are doing an awesome job. That's a tough spot for a TD to make a clutch call at the last minute like that. I can imagine how crappy it must feel to drive down from Kansas to run a show, and the course looks like Katrina blew through it. They've got my support and I can't wait hit up Cedar Hill.
holy crap they moved this event???
wahoo, why did,nt it get moved to zboaz?
that's alot closer... to me.
lauranovice
Jun 28 2007, 01:57 PM
These days most people read the board, but has anyone posted anything at all the local courses to inform people that were planning on going to Lewisville? I also realize anything posted at a local course will be soggy and unreadable, but just wondering. Perhaps Friday afternoon/evening, if possible, there should be someone at / near / as close to as possible to Lewisville Lake course, just hanging out to inform anyone that just drives up thinking they can sign up at / during doubles. There might be some people out there that don't have computers, but somehow heard about the upcoming tournament. just and idea?
DOC65
Jun 28 2007, 02:55 PM
These days most people read the board, but has anyone posted anything at all the local courses to inform people that were planning on going to Lewisville? I also realize anything posted at a local course will be soggy and unreadable, but just wondering. Perhaps Friday afternoon/evening, if possible, there should be someone at / near / as close to as possible to Lewisville Lake course, just hanging out to inform anyone that just drives up thinking they can sign up at / during doubles. There might be some people out there that don't have computers, but somehow heard about the upcoming tournament. just and idea?
We will be putting something out there this evening. I was there last night and talked to the hearty souls who were getting their practice rounds in during all the rain.
jbolstead
Jun 28 2007, 03:19 PM
All of the players the pre-registered listed phone #'s and emails. I would highly suggeest that these individuals be contacted via both means.
Jeremy - I have two huge boxes from that disc maker in NC at my office for you. Hope you got some Gateway in there too!
okcacehole
Jun 28 2007, 03:45 PM
I offered my services to help make the calls or emails last night...I am sure if he ends up needing some help there are many out there that can contact the pre-regs
rcazares
Jun 28 2007, 06:02 PM
SuperGirl (Nicole) was very disappointed to here that the Lake Lewisville course is unplayable. It is one of her favorite courses.
We are trying to decide whether or not to play Cedar Hill. Is there a description or review of the Cedar Hill courses anywhere? Someone told me last year that there are a lot of tight, densely wooded fairways. Tight, densely wooded fairways (like the Beast in Waco) are hard for Nicole. Half of her throws end up in the thick bushes and trees. Even when she hit the fairway the disc slid into the bushes.
If there is no detailed course description I can read, are there any courses that are similiar that we may have played? We have played the following courses:
Dallas area
Zboaz?
Veterans
Bear Creek
Lewisville
Austin area
Please Park (COTO),
Cirlce C (Slaugher)
Bushy Creek (TWC)
Wilco
Waco
The Beast
Cameron original
Houston area
Tom Bass
Woodlands
Oak Meadows
TC Jester
Agness Moffit
McDade (Conroe)
Jake Brooks
Corpus Christi
West Guth
Gonzales disc golf course
San Antonio area
Live Oak
Any info would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks............Rick
THIS JUST IN ........... THE DISCBOOMER COMETH TO CEDARVILLE........
woooooooohooooooo
Pogis
Jun 28 2007, 06:55 PM
YES!!!! Another donator!!!
the_kid
Jun 28 2007, 07:09 PM
SuperGirl (Nicole) was very disappointed to here that the Lake Lewisville course is unplayable. It is one of her favorite courses.
We are trying to decide whether or not to play Cedar Hill. Is there a description or review of the Cedar Hill courses anywhere? Someone told me last year that there are a lot of tight, densely wooded fairways. Tight, densely wooded fairways (like the Beast in Waco) are hard for Nicole. Half of her throws end up in the thick bushes and trees. Even when she hit the fairway the disc slid into the bushes.
If there is no detailed course description I can read, are there any courses that are similiar that we may have played? We have played the following courses:
Dallas area
Zboaz?
Veterans
Bear Creek
Lewisville
Austin area
Please Park (COTO),
Cirlce C (Slaugher)
Bushy Creek (TWC)
Wilco
Waco
The Beast
Cameron original
Houston area
Tom Bass
Woodlands
Oak Meadows
TC Jester
Agness Moffit
McDade (Conroe)
Jake Brooks
Corpus Christi
West Guth
Gonzales disc golf course
San Antonio area
Live Oak
Any info would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks............Rick
Rick,
The beaver course is open and only 2-3 holes have a lot of brush. The Coyote is short and tight but nothing like Cameron East. The Coyote has a lot of trees to go around but the brush isn't that bad and even if you go in it you should be able to make a good throw out.
If I were Nicole I would definantly try to make this one as they are some of my favorites in TX.
Also do you know any Houstonians that are going that have rooom for another?
ericb45696
Jun 28 2007, 07:43 PM
Cedar hill is an awesome 2 courses!!
oh, and to whomever calls the preregs,... I know :)
YES!!!! Another donator!!!
We shall see now wont we !
ericb45696
Jun 28 2007, 07:46 PM
Yeah!! The Ablinie tourney was awesome! It was well run and done in a timely manner. I would expect this one to be bigger and better!
of course it was..you won!! I kid, but thank god your in Open !!
DOC65
Jun 28 2007, 11:53 PM
Just wanted to remind everyone that there will be doubles tomorrow at Cedar Hill starting at 2:00pm - 6:00pm. You can register then or sign up Saturday morning at 8:00. Players meeting will start at 9:30.
I also wanted to let any Sr. Grand Masters know that there will be a division for you. It was a mistake that it was omitted from the flyer. I just found out about that mistake this evening and I apologize for the late notice and correction. Please help spread the word on this if you know any Sr Grand Masters who don't read the boards!!!
Looking forward to a great weekend and one heck of a tournament!!!
okcacehole
Jun 29 2007, 12:33 AM
anyone playing DOUBLES at the CH/LL
my partner and I can make 2 or 3pm....
can we play twice????
is 2pm realistic??? driving back to Addison on FRI is nasty!
Rusco
Jun 29 2007, 12:53 AM
Things are really starting to look good for this event! Everyone should be excited for this as I think we will be very close to a full field!
Doubles will start at 2 pm. I can't let you play twice though as I don't think that would be fair to the players who only have the time to play one round.
If everyone can help spread the word in anyway possible that would be greatly appreciated. "Old Man" Tom will be at the Lake Lewisville course Saturday morning and on Friday to help direct the few that might miss the memo. That is the reason to the later start time at Cedar Hill.
If anyone has any other questions don't hesitate to ask. We look forward to seeing everyone in Cedar Hill. The Lewisville tournament will be rescheduled for later in the year so lets not forget about all the sponsors that are willing to make this event happen at a later date. We promise that the Lewisville tournament will have more added cash and sponsorships as there will be more time to get sponsors lined up and excited about the event.
YES!!!! Another donator!!!
We shall see now wont we !
i'm just glad that he's donating some duckets for breakfast this weekend.
and chris.. go ahead and hand over the #1 tag so you won't forget when i whip your tail.
man that sounds funny as hell :D
Pogis
Jun 29 2007, 01:33 AM
Thanks for working hard guys! It is greatly appreciated!
ericb45696
Jun 29 2007, 01:35 AM
anyone need a doubles partner for AM? otherwise I'm not sure if I wanna drive there and back to richardson 3 seperate times this weekend.
hmm..
sandalman
Jun 29 2007, 09:30 AM
question... i heard Don Q is serving BBQ. is there any signup for that? it will be awesome to be able to just hang out rather than running up 67 for grub.
lauranovice
Jun 29 2007, 09:42 AM
That is one of the reasons we do it. I figure most players enjoy a hot meal at the course especially when they are muddy. If you are playing the tournament or helping with the tournament, no sign-up required, just $5 for a plate. Eat all you want as long as there is enough for the last card to do the same. We've got hamburgers and hot dogs Saturday, chopped brisket Sunday. We'll try to find some way to keep it dry. Wish we could get the old van to working so that people could hang out in it, but no one seems to want to fix it.
cgflesner
Jun 29 2007, 10:43 AM
YES!!!! Another donator!!!
We shall see now wont we !
i'm just glad that he's donating some duckets for breakfast this weekend.
and chris.. go ahead and hand over the #1 tag so you won't forget when i whip your tail.
man that sounds funny as hell :D
lets see my rating is 52 points higher than yours so I shoule beat you by an average of 6 strokes per round. I have dominated you the last 4 or 5 minis what makes you think that will change. If anybody takes my tag I think it will be mr mcabe.
Pogis
Jun 29 2007, 11:00 AM
Somebody else is a possible new owner for that tag as well!
like i said earlier.. just hand it over when i see you.
not even the great mccabe stands a chance.
:D :D
ericb45696
Jun 29 2007, 11:32 AM
this sounds fierce!!
24460
Jun 29 2007, 12:05 PM
that #1 tag has Longerbone's name engraved on the back of it and it shall return to its rightful owner.
manderson
Jun 29 2007, 12:08 PM
Rusco posted that the players meeting would be at 9:00. Doc65 posted that the players meeting would be at 9:30. Which one of these is correct? Since I don't know you guys yet, I don't know who has the official say.
sandalman
Jun 29 2007, 12:14 PM
just be there early. you need the practice
manderson
Jun 29 2007, 12:52 PM
not to beat you!
sandalman
Jun 29 2007, 01:10 PM
thats right.. you WILL need something more than practice to beat me. Skill comes to mind :)
in the words of the Immortal Technique; "i've got skills unused like Fallopian tubes on a dike" :eek:
cgflesner
Jun 29 2007, 01:24 PM
that #1 tag has Longerbone's name engraved on the back of it and it shall return to its rightful owner.
LOL.
Ya right.
There are no hyzers Brice.
manderson
Jun 29 2007, 01:26 PM
remind me this weekend to give you one of my trophy minis from world doubles. I had a partner with some game this year /msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif
With all this smack talk going on it will be interesting
to see how it all goes down by Sunday afternoon..........
Rain+mud+ beaver's and coyote's = One interesting b tier!
At least there is no Ice and Snow this time around!
DOC65
Jun 29 2007, 01:50 PM
Rusco posted that the players meeting would be at 9:00. Doc65 posted that the players meeting would be at 9:30. Which one of these is correct? Since I don't know you guys yet, I don't know who has the official say.
9:30, we moved it back an extra 30 minutes to allow for more time for last minute registration and anyone that shows up at the Lake last minute.
oceanjones
Jun 29 2007, 01:59 PM
Lewisville was ready, the courses primed and pruned
Till the rain began to pour some humid afternoon
Now the Lake Course lays, more than 3 fathoms deep (seems like it)
We put away our discs, another day they'd have to keep
With worried posters posting the news sure looked grim
The chances for a disc golf tourney seemed very slim
But then from the depths and darkness we heard a voice arise
We could play Cedar Hill to compete for the prize
Oh the 'yote and the Beaver, how the Hamster dances proudly
We'll play them once again, but this time I'll beat them soundly
Talk your smack all you want the winner will prevail
You tree haters do your worst, it will be to no avail
Whether you play Open, whether you play Am
These muddy courses will work you over...wham, bam, thank you ma'am
I'll be here all week :cool:
BRAVO.. BRAVO
i especially like the hamster dancing proudly.
that would be a sight... /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
BRAVO.. BRAVO
i especially like the hamster dancing proudly.
that would be a sight... /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
With beavers and coyote's , the hamsters run in fright....
the_kid
Jun 29 2007, 02:52 PM
So is nobody going from Houston??????????????? I don't want to go if I will be unable to split costs because with worlds coming up the funds are tight.
cgflesner
Jun 29 2007, 02:55 PM
You can crash here if you want Matt.
Looks like we could have around 25 to 30 in open.
space76
Jun 29 2007, 03:39 PM
Well, The location change really bummed me out. Totally not interested in Cedar Hill!
the_kid
Jun 29 2007, 04:01 PM
Well, The location change really bummed me out. Totally not interested in Cedar Hill!
Either that was sarcasm or you need to lay off the CrAcK.