jackinkc
Apr 05 2007, 02:03 PM
http://www.kcfdc.org/docs/07sponsor.pdf

Get a tee-sign sponsor, and play for free!! Get your boss to get their business name out there in the community, and play some great courses.

This will be another great event, and we look forward to having all the players have a blast. 3 days all divisions, 5 rounds for Am's, 4 for Pro's, tee times Sat/Sun for Pro's.

This is going to be an EPIC event, and the Party on Saturday at Blue Valley is going to ROC! We know that you love our courses, and we heard that you wanted to play more courses and more days on the Am side from last year, so come on out and play some of the best that disc golf has to offer in our small little part of the country.

Visit http://www.kcfdc.org or http://www.kcwideopen.com for more information. Click on the first link to get your entry PAID for!!

Apr 05 2007, 03:35 PM
$157 for Open entry fee? 3 days? Are you frigggin kidding me? :mad:

So your asking a player to take off of work Friday. (Costs me over $100 in wages, have to get a extra night at a hotel (3 nights at $70+) Gas is almost $3 a gallon. There is no way in hell I would spend over $500 to go play the Wide Open

Good Luck with that, I will pass as will many more people.....the A Tier in Emporia is 100 times the better value for a much better courses and better event.

my_hero
Apr 05 2007, 03:44 PM
....better be some good lunches. I do like the idea of free entry w/ tee sign sponsor.

twoputtok
Apr 05 2007, 03:46 PM
....better be some good lunches.



Yea, because those are $5 extra per day. :o

Correction, the printed entry forms says "Lunch will be available each day for only $15. :o:o:D

my_hero
Apr 05 2007, 03:50 PM
....better be some good lunches. I do like the idea of free entry w/ tee sign sponsor.



Yea, because those are $5 extra per day. :o

Correction, the printed entry forms says "Lunch will be available each day for only $15. :o:o:D



:D

Plus i was having fun w/ Kevey. I remember reading how well he liked the BBQ there. I believe he called it horse meat. ;) :p

Apr 05 2007, 03:52 PM
I will be in emporia this year.... KCWO 2008 for the discboomer!

Apr 05 2007, 03:55 PM
I have played in the Wide Open every year since 1996, but I think I will be spending my money a little wiser this year.

You can play both A-Tiers in Des Moines and St Louis for about the same price as playing the Wide Open.

Apr 05 2007, 03:57 PM
I will be in emporia this year.... KCWO 2008 for the discboomer!



Emporia is going to fill up fast and be hard to get into if you wait too long. Its hands down the best event in Kansas now.

jackinkc
Apr 05 2007, 04:09 PM
Not sure what you are reading, but the Open entry Kevey is only $135, pretty much in line with all NT events the $157 includes lunch, and the procesing fee for online, sooooo that is what you are tlaking about. Plus this being the 25th it wil be a blast, but hey, if you would rather to go Des Moines and St. Louis and play, you can, just won't be able to play the great courses in KC.Lunch is $5day for Open, or $4day for Am, so $15 for all three days is the correct stance. As for Emporia..not the KC courses now is it..........but hey have fun, just play disc golf. I also was under the impression that you already were not planning on coming Kev.

ninafofitre
Apr 05 2007, 04:29 PM
I just went to pre register on DiscgolfWorld.com and I about fell out of my chair when I saw that $157

Entry Fees in general are out of control. How in the world is a 950-980 golfer going to pay that kind of entry fee? Why would an Advanced player EVER move up when if they decide to do, they have to pay twice the entry fee, just to get their butts handed to them by the Super-Pro's. It's not good for the growth of the sport.

twoputtok
Apr 05 2007, 04:34 PM
I just went to pre register on DiscgolfWorld.com and I about fell out of my chair when I saw that $157

Entry Fees in general are out of control. How in the world is a 950-980 golfer going to pay that kind of entry fee?





You're right, any golfer at 980 probably doesn't have a real job. :D

Apr 05 2007, 04:40 PM
WHy is lunch for an Open player 1 dollar more expensive than the Advanced player ??? Are you putting human growth hormones in the open lunches ??? :D

Apr 05 2007, 04:41 PM
I will be in emporia this year.... KCWO 2008 for the discboomer!



Emporia is going to fill up fast and be hard to get into if you wait too long. Its hands down the best event in Kansas now.



Well , I will most likely be rolling up with e-mac, so I am not too worried .

ninafofitre
Apr 05 2007, 04:44 PM
I just went to pre register on DiscgolfWorld.com and I about fell out of my chair when I saw that $157

Entry Fees in general are out of control. How in the world is a 950-980 golfer going to pay that kind of entry fee? Why would an Advanced player EVER move up when if they decide to do, they have to pay twice the entry fee, just to get their butts handed to them by the Super-Pro's. It's not good for the growth of the sport.





I am not griping at this for my sake...I don't have any problem cashing at events but the newcomers that are just moving up and the local guys are getting hosed by these enormous entry fees. We are losing way too many of these good golfers before they can reach their true potential because the value isn't worth it for them.

Apr 05 2007, 04:48 PM
I just went to pre register on DiscgolfWorld.com and I about fell out of my chair when I saw that $157

Entry Fees in general are out of control. How in the world is a 950-980 golfer going to pay that kind of entry fee? Why would an Advanced player EVER move up when if they decide to do, they have to pay twice the entry fee, just to get their butts handed to them by the Super-Pro's. It's not good for the growth of the sport.





I am not griping at this for my sake...I don't have any problem cashing at events but the newcomers that are just moving up and the local guys are getting hosed by these enormous entry fees. We are losing way too many of these good golfers before they can reach their true potential because the value isn't worth it for them.



Coming from the " good golfer who has not reached his full potential " perspective , I could not agree more. Coming from a disc golf promotor, we have to have some perception of value for the corporate world to take notice and sponsor our events.... This is a total catch 22... Damned if you do/dont...

chappyfade
Apr 05 2007, 05:20 PM
Guys, here's the breakdown:

Open is $135...unfortunately, that's about the minimum we can charge under NT guidelines. Believe me, we'd like to charge less.

$7 processing fee (if you mail us a check, you don't pay this fee)

$15 for lunch for 3 days...this means $5 per day (not $15 a day...just $5). If you don't want to pay for the lunch, let us know, and we'll refund the dollars (or not charge you in the first place)

Chap

Gregg
Apr 05 2007, 05:35 PM
$157 for Open entry fee? 3 days? Are you frigggin kidding me? :mad:

So your asking a player to take off of work Friday. (Costs me over $100 in wages, have to get a extra night at a hotel (3 nights at $70+) Gas is almost $3 a gallon. There is no way in hell I would spend over $500 to go play the Wide Open

Good Luck with that, I will pass as will many more people.....the A Tier in Emporia is 100 times the better value for a much better courses and better event.



WIN ALL THAT MONEY BACK!

Jeff_LaG
Apr 05 2007, 05:42 PM
I just went to pre register on DiscgolfWorld.com and I about fell out of my chair when I saw that $157

Entry Fees in general are out of control. How in the world is a 950-980 golfer going to pay that kind of entry fee? Why would an Advanced player EVER move up when if they decide to do, they have to pay twice the entry fee, just to get their butts handed to them by the Super-Pro's. It's not good for the growth of the sport.





I am not griping at this for my sake...I don't have any problem cashing at events but the newcomers that are just moving up and the local guys are getting hosed by these enormous entry fees. We are losing way too many of these good golfers before they can reach their true potential because the value isn't worth it for them.



Couldn't agree more with Kevin. Pretty indicative of the state of our competition system when even a 1013-rated player (who is statistically assured to cash) is griping about our outrageous entry fees.

bruce_brakel
Apr 05 2007, 05:50 PM
In other words, you pay $157 but only $135 of it goes to the payout. Somehow that makes it better? :D

Kev, you could play the Cryztal Cruise (http://www.pdga.com/schedule/event.php?TournID=6606) on Saturday and take in the Cub's game (http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/schedule/index.jsp?c_id=chc&m=6&y=2007) on Sunday. If you sleep in your car and eat peanut butter sammywiches, you could finish in the black! :D

ninafofitre
Apr 05 2007, 05:54 PM
Since KC has 6 courses that can be used, filling up wouldn't be an issue.

I just think it would be better for the sport to charge $75 and get 90+ Open players instead of charging $135+ and get 30-40 players.

Maybe I shouldn't have said anything on this thread because it's not just a problem with KC as it's more of a problem across the country.

jackinkc
Apr 05 2007, 07:08 PM
I tend to agree personally, thats why the Mighty Mo in April is $15/all am divisions, and $30/ll Pro Divisions. Water Works and Cliff Drive April 29th. Go to Omaha on Saturday, and drive home and stop in KC on Sunday to play this.....but it is not the Wide Open, and sorry, but Emporia courses are not 100x better than KC. Having played for over 20 years, KC courses are still in better shape than most courses I have played across the country, and collectively it is hard to seriously find a place with the diversity in courses across america within a 30 mile radius, but I am of course biased, and that is part of the reason I moved to KC, was because the courses were clearly better and better kept than most places in america that I have played.

But hey, I have only played 300 courses or so, so I have a few more to view before I can become an expert!
:)

I just know that I am buying a tee sign, and playing for the first time in 5 years in the Wide Open, I personally can not wait!!!! Less people mean a better chance for me to do better! (yeah right!)

Oh well, I have not visited the forums for quite awhile, and the reason is that so many people have tended to take things in here the wrong way. I think that there are many things that are working well with the current system, and I also have issues with other parts of the PDGA, but it is our governing body for the sport as we know it, price increases happen all over. it is tougher to make it happen, but if you can get your boss to pony up a tee sign, hey you get lunch and your entry for free, so work them, not the message board!! (I unfortunately work from home, so asking my boss is not an option, I will pony up the $300+ because I want to contribute to the event, but I should i love the sport and our courses!)

Come on to Kansas City, Kansas City here I come!

kcdiscgirl
Apr 05 2007, 09:35 PM
ill finish that tune....they got some crazzzy little women and i'm one....hahaha.

yeahhhhhh KCWO, can't wait! love comin back to my true home courses!

yo kev, get a sponsor and get you and peavy there, comeoooonnnn, when else am i gonna see you guys.

ninafofitre
Apr 06 2007, 09:53 AM
Demaaaaaaaaark,

We will be in Bowling Green, It will be Peavy's last event, her belly is really starting to expand and the baby seems healthy. We find out monday if its a lil slugger or a lil heartbreaker ;)

Sorry i caused a ruckus on this thread, It's not just a KC thing. The prices are too high a lot of places. The new pros in this area are the ones that are more affected by the price increases that I am. For me it actually works out in the end, cuz I could possibly make more cash. Just trying to look out for the next generation of up and coming Pros. Don't want to see these guys lose interest and leave the game.

bschweberger
Apr 06 2007, 09:59 AM
Demaaaaaaaaark,

We will be in Bowling Green, It will be Peavy's last event, her belly is really starting to expand and the baby seems healthy. We find out monday if its a lil slugger or a lil heartbreaker ;)

Sorry i caused a ruckus on this thread, It's not just a KC thing. The prices are too high a lot of places. The new pros in this area are the ones that are more affected by the price increases that I am. For me it actually works out in the end, cuz I could possibly make more cash. Just trying to look out for the next generation of up and coming Pros. Don't want to see these guys lose interest and leave the game.

I heard that KMack, these high entry's are definitely a deterant for up and comers.

RonSTL
Apr 06 2007, 10:11 AM
I have played in the Wide Open every year since 1996, but I think I will be spending my money a little wiser this year.

You can play both A-Tiers in Des Moines and St Louis for about the same price as playing the Wide Open.



I go to Des Moines every year and those courses are BAD ARSE :cool: KC courses are good but I am a new pro and looking at cost I am planning on playing Davenport, working STL open, then definitely planning on Des Moines. The price of Davenport and Des Moines will be less than KC. Emporia is definitely on the list this year. I went from the top of the food chain right to the bottom. I call this my learning curve. I hate taking my lumps. :(

Pogis
Apr 06 2007, 10:13 AM
Speaking from someone who is not going to play at the am level anymore, This will not cause me to lose interest in the sport. I am going to have deal with this by playing fewer tourneys and smaller tourneys. It really sucks. I would rather play a smaller tourney, pay less, and have a better chance at cashing then play a big tourney and get my butt handed to me by super pros. But you learn more from the best compition.......... :confused:

twoputtok
Apr 06 2007, 10:18 AM
Yes, the price for lessons from the top pros is getting expensive. Now I understand why guys stay Am under our current structure. Lower entries and plastic. As it is now, I pay the higher entry and I have to buy my plastic, double whammy. :(

jackinkc
Apr 12 2007, 01:30 AM
Had some one call me from LA today and asked about where to find the sponsorship form to get in for free. Please look at the first post with regard on how to get your entry into the WOXXV for free......

jackinkc
May 18 2007, 11:29 AM
35 days togo

jackinkc
May 21 2007, 02:21 PM
less than month togo

RonSTL
May 21 2007, 09:26 PM
less than month togo



I will know tomorrow ;)

jackinkc
May 23 2007, 03:20 AM
I of course will respond to this thread. As a donater to the Open division, I am just glad that people come to play at all..... I love our courses, and I am glad that I will be playing for the first time in quite awhile, even though I need to MC a few topics!!

:)

andyn
May 23 2007, 04:56 AM
Do you know if there is a trophy-only option on any divisions, Am or Pro?

RonSTL
May 23 2007, 08:08 AM
less than month togo



I will know tomorrow ;)



Cannot get off Friday :( Maybe next year. :) See you Thursday. :cool:

sammyshaheen
May 23 2007, 10:07 AM
thinking about attending this event.
that is a very high entry fee. pdga is too blame for this.
i would love to see lower open fees. I would play. even if I am drawing dead.
I have have enough plastic.

ck34
May 23 2007, 10:43 AM
that is a very high entry fee. pdga is to blame for this.




Perhaps you should check other NT entry fees before claiming that. The Hall of Fame NT was $110 for Open, not $157 like KC. And the HOF had park fees included in that number. Several other NTs I checked also have/had lower entry fees.

xterramatt
May 23 2007, 01:25 PM
Register through the mail, sans lunches. $135. I tried to register online but it didn't subtract the lunches, and the $7 upcharge for online killed it for me.

110 for the HOF was great, as there were amenities that don't happen at a lot of events (free sport drinks, snacks, great food on site, free bbq dinner, silent auction, etc.

sammyshaheen
May 23 2007, 06:23 PM
i am just a low level player (854) i love the pdga.
i have never talked to anyone who disagreed that open fees are too high. maybe all the 1000+ rated players won't complain. i only know a couple but i do know 10 or so 950 rated players that just don't feel like they have a chance in open so they bag am.


i feel that as the governing body for disc golf it is up to pdga to
fix this problem. if it is not seen as a problem so be it.

i would also play for money - not plastic - if i could still play in my
division. i have seen nothing but problems come out of paying ams plastic. a lot of room too make money off the ams buy selling their prizes to them at full retail.

what ever really i just enjoy watching frisbees fly. i will always play.
win or lose i am winning.

sammyshaheen
May 23 2007, 06:24 PM
oh yeah mid nationals is how all tournaments should be set up.
at least for lower level players. table tennis has a great for cash tournament set up. has that ever been evaluated?
they don't have bagging problems. seems like a very simple solution.

jackinkc
May 23 2007, 06:30 PM
trophy only divisions-NO

Event price to high-AGREE

$157 entry-includes lunches and online fees, actual entry is only $135 for open....so.....

Get your boss to buy a tee sign and play in the event for free........

I agree that almost all PDGA events are to F'ing high priced.

Still our courses are GREAT, the people are great, the event is 25 years old, and gosh darnit were gonna have fun, with or without you here!

Jack

andyn
May 24 2007, 12:24 AM
I wasn't asking if there was a seperate trophy division. I thought the PDGA had opened it up where progressive TDs could offer trophy-only in existing divisions. I think it about doubled the Open Women's Field in a couple of tournaments, one where several paid for the chance to play with Des, knowing their reduced entry fee was something they had no shot at, just paying something for the experience, course fees, etc.
It's OK that there's no flexibility at KC. Everyone knows up front what they're paying. I never complained about the fee, just inquired about possible options.

xterramatt
May 24 2007, 12:31 AM
when tournaments fill, it's hard to offer the reduced rate entry until perhaps the last week. All full paying players should be able to bump a trophy only, IMO. Sucks, but it's common sense.

jackinkc
May 24 2007, 06:25 PM
No worries. I think that it would be hard to offer trophy only divisions in an A-Tier NT Event though no matter how you orchestrated it.

xterramatt
May 24 2007, 08:39 PM
Hey Jack, my cart is FASTER! Reckless driving? Not me!

RussaFuller
May 29 2007, 10:06 PM
Is anyone else going to stay in the Best Western? I booked my room today for 21-25 on Travelocity. Then I called then BW and they told me that not single player had booked a room with them. This concerns me because I had planned to get a ride to the courses each day. I am thinking maybe other players used Travelocity instead of calling them.

jackinkc
May 31 2007, 10:52 AM
Picking the faster cart is BS, maybe a rematch in MN this weekend.

As for the host hotel......you know there has been too many nice people in KC for too long with over 25 years of playing, a lot of people will be staying with people that they met here, chance are that you should still be able to find a ride from the hotel as many people will be in the area.

xterramatt
May 31 2007, 12:13 PM
It's not the cart, it's the driver. Won't be in Minn, but will see you in KC.

jackinkc
Jun 05 2007, 02:34 PM
Bumping the thread......

Who is planning on heading here? This is the 25th year for crying out loud......

Get someone to pay your way, buy a sign support their business, and support your habit.

jackinkc
Jun 07 2007, 12:53 AM
Blue Valley just got mowed today.....

Courses should be set this weekend for the Wide Open....

Swope is only course that will change over the weekend rounds, so I bet that the Red Baskets will be in play prior to the event, then taken out Friday Morning before rd 1, and then replaced Saturday afternoon. I believe (DO NOT QUOTE ME) that the holes at Swope Gold will be as follows:
Original #1, with MANDO on tree right side of pad, playing long on hill, then off to tee pad #4 to #5 long basket, then past the house to play 3 holes north of course, then back to #6, and finishing the course as it stands, with #13 going from long pad to Island basket (currently Red basket)

Not sure if all courses will be set this weekend, but it is the plan to make it happen, so if you come to town early, they should be ready to practice on.

THanks,

Jack

may
Jun 07 2007, 01:02 AM
Sounds great Jack. Look for me!!

jackinkc
Jun 07 2007, 06:08 PM
will do if you get here early there are Leagues every night in KC-$6/night for non-KCFDC members, includes ace funds, they are more like MINI's than leagues from what others have posted........all start at 6, be there by 5:45

Monday-Olathe or Cliff Drive
Tuesday-Swope
Wednesday-Rosedale
Thursday-Water Works
Friday-WyCo
Sunday-Blue Valley (10:00 am start)

xterramatt
Jun 12 2007, 11:32 AM
Not filling too fast.

jackinkc
Jun 14 2007, 01:20 PM
But filling none the less, good talent pool of top pros back this year (thanks to no JAPAN open the next week!!) The 25th is coming together nicely, and the pool of players is going to be great as well. Too bad I will be looking up at many of them from the first day on!!!!!

8 days to go, get here, you know you wanna play the Wide Open!!

Thanks,

Jack

jackinkc
Jun 18 2007, 02:06 PM
Registration needs to be done this week folks for coming to town.....Open Field looks TOUGH (with the exception of that player named Jack Lowe!)

RussaFuller
Jun 19 2007, 01:19 PM
Is anyone else flying to Kansas City? My flight lands at 8:05 AM on Thursday. I will buy anyone lunch who can pick me up and take me the Best Western.

I also still have an extra bed, if anyone still is looking for a place to stay. I am non-smoker.


If anyone can help me with the Airport please let me know.

[email protected]

jackinkc
Jun 19 2007, 01:32 PM
Russ,

I can probably commit to getting you at the airport on Thursday AM, what airline?

Jack Lowe
913.485.5123

Dana
Jun 19 2007, 03:19 PM
when is the last day you can register?

i'm thinking about cashing in my change and making the trip

xterramatt
Jun 19 2007, 04:23 PM
I arrive at 9:06.

I'll have my son and a silver revolution backpack. My son is about 6.

We are getting our bag (hopefully only one) and then getting a car from Thrifty. I can give you a ride. Not sure where the BW is, but I know a bit about the city.

Matt
704-906-6632

RonSTL
Jun 19 2007, 04:47 PM
I arrive at 9:06.

I'll have my son and a silver revolution backpack. My son is about 6.

We are getting our bag (hopefully only one) and then getting a car from Thrifty. I can give you a ride. Not sure where the BW is, but I know a bit about the city.

Matt
704-906-6632



I found this link pretty useful
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&om=1&z=11&ll=39.031453,-94.684982&spn=0.316297,0.477219&t=h&msid=108060702 362863002836.00000111c2ec0e7dea08b&msa=0

jackinkc
Jun 19 2007, 06:08 PM
I'mm gonna pick him up Matt. Forces me to get out of the house early on Thursday!!

CANT WAIT...I get to play disc in KC WOW what a treat!
:P

RonSTL
Jun 19 2007, 10:54 PM
I'mm gonna pick him up Matt. Forces me to get out of the house early on Thursday!!

CANT WAIT...I get to play disc in KC WOW what a treat!
:P



Make sure it is secure :o I will call you on the road ;)

jackinkc
Jun 19 2007, 11:39 PM
that is WRONG Ron, just WRONG!

RonSTL
Jun 20 2007, 08:34 AM
that is WRONG Ron, just WRONG!



Try again I pulled straight off KCFDC website

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&om=1&z=11&ll=39.031453,-94.684982&spn=0.316297,0.477219&t=h&msid=108060702 362863002836.00000111c2ec0e7dea08b&msa=0

Give that one a try. Make sure you pick up the whole string and paste into your browser. It definitely does not work if you only p/u part of the string.

jackinkc
Jun 20 2007, 10:59 AM
No I meant in reference to my house.......NOT NICE....remember you are sleeping here....
:P

RonSTL
Jun 20 2007, 11:20 AM
No I meant in reference to my house.......NOT NICE....remember you are sleeping here....
:P



:D :D :D :D

ZCRUSHER
Jun 20 2007, 11:35 AM
This Weekends Going to be Huge

olsen129
Jun 20 2007, 01:30 PM
Anyone have any floor space? Clay and I will be arriving probably late tomorrow evening. Also, when does registration close?

RonSTL
Jun 20 2007, 04:49 PM
Anyone have any floor space? Clay and I will be arriving probably late tomorrow evening. Also, when does registration close?



Here is what is what ya need to know.
http://www.kcwideopen.com/schedule.asp

twoputtok
Jun 20 2007, 05:11 PM
Good luck Ron, play well. :D

RonSTL
Jun 20 2007, 07:42 PM
Good luck Ron, play well. :D



Hopefully things will work out. I actually, have practiced since DM. :)

We shall see,

Peace :cool:

PS see you for sure, Emporia. Let me know if you want to split a room. Most likely traveling by myself, unless a fire is put under some of the AM1s by my post, on KCWO, on our site.

L8r ;) if you get any energy w/your fingers, check it out. I pasted it hard, but only truth.

Go Coda, in open. His style of courses, but also, others :Dwe shall see

circle_2
Jun 22 2007, 09:36 AM
Good luck to all competitors!! :cool:

(Wish I was playing... :()

dre
Jun 22 2007, 02:11 PM
round updates? :confused:

omegaputt
Jun 22 2007, 02:12 PM
they are still playing I would guess, they didnt tee off til 10

skaZZirf
Jun 22 2007, 02:40 PM
Climo with a 3 over..is that right?

MTL21676
Jun 22 2007, 02:43 PM
my guess is a date entry error - 47 sounds more like it.

But who knows...

skaZZirf
Jun 22 2007, 02:51 PM
i dont know...they ahvent changed it yet....Might be Climos worst round in years.

MTL21676
Jun 22 2007, 03:14 PM
just got texts from Justin Bunnell and Adam Olsen - Kenny DID shoot 57.

DSproAVIAR
Jun 22 2007, 03:18 PM
ouch. Is he going to cash? Wasn't the last time he didn't cash '89 or so?

MTL21676
Jun 22 2007, 03:20 PM
ouch. Is he going to cash? Wasn't the last time he didn't cash '89 or so?



if he shoots his average from here out, 945 1040 1040 1040 EASILY cashes.

shaolintrained
Jun 22 2007, 04:11 PM
After looking at the round scores I just assumed that Kenny wasn't competing for some reason. I would've never thought to have looked that far down for his score. I bet we see a redemption round 2...a 1075 is my guess.

doot
Jun 22 2007, 04:30 PM
How sad that I didnt even get a pick from our man Brinster in the DGFL.. :-(

Keep it up Brinster!!

And the future Brinster is one stroke off the lead at her other home course!!

shaolintrained
Jun 22 2007, 04:54 PM
I say let him pick himself, looks like he's shooting lights out.

gdstour
Jun 22 2007, 06:40 PM
ouch. Is he going to cash? Wasn't the last time he didn't cash '89 or so?



I was told the last time Kenny didnt cash was at the 1st leg of the triple crown in Rockledge Florida!


Btw,
I won that tourney in 89 and I think it was the only time I ever beat Climo in a tourney!!

ck34
Jun 22 2007, 06:52 PM
He was tied with Katy Schreder and Kathryn Manley so hopefully he can get it going...

20460chase
Jun 22 2007, 09:10 PM
Wow, after KCs first round even I had a chance of being on his card.

Good thing Barry retired.

ck34
Jun 22 2007, 09:21 PM
Wonder who's posing as Barry on the lead card then? :)

schick
Jun 22 2007, 11:15 PM
Looks like the champ bounced back....I bet he finishes top ten still!

How about Val's 1014 second round....beating big brother by three! Sorry Avery...I had to..Nice shooting Val, bring it home. :D

iheartdiscgolf
Jun 22 2007, 11:41 PM
Way to go TK! Keep it up.

Val...awesome come back.. as usual! 1014?! That's insane. Great shooting!

bschweberger
Jun 23 2007, 04:05 PM
Brinsta Brinsta Pooring it on again thru the first 5 holes today

shaolintrained
Jun 23 2007, 04:19 PM
Looks like Barry is having a meltdown. 2 up after 6 holes.

gdstour
Jun 23 2007, 06:28 PM
any further results?

dome
Jun 23 2007, 06:46 PM
po'boyZZ

bfunkyp
Jun 23 2007, 06:52 PM
Brinster (YEAH BOY!!) is in the lead at -22 after 1 holes, Doss is -21, Barry -18, JD is -15.

shaolintrained
Jun 23 2007, 07:52 PM
Brinster with a bogey-free 10 down. That's sick.

xterramatt
Jun 23 2007, 08:07 PM
That is the MOST righty favored course I have EVER played.

I played it blind. I am glad I did, as I would have been one whiny punk after about hole 5.I got up and down and threw more turnover bombs than I knew I had in me. Basically, I had to take cheat routes over trees so I wasn't either risking nasty lies, nasty OB, nasty upshots. Blue Valley needs a bit of a redesign. Walk it with a lefty and see how many hyzers they throw. I threw 2. Hole 2, and hole 10. Not that it is advised to be a lefty and throw hole 10 hyzer, but frankly, it was the only thing I could do.

I apologize to my group for whining about the ridiculous lopsidedness of this course.

I still shot 3 down with 4 bogies though. :D

Blind baby. 11,000 feet of vertical righty disc golf.

gdstour
Jun 23 2007, 08:22 PM
I heard blue valley had several 3.5's as well as some funky walks.

what was the par?


How was the flow of the course and flow of play?
Were there back ups?

marshief
Jun 23 2007, 08:40 PM
C'mon Brinsta, get the KC win that you know you can! You've come so close, now finish it tomorrow!! (this is Mitch)

xterramatt
Jun 23 2007, 08:53 PM
most of the par 3s are 3.5.... or legitimate 4s.

Hole 14, 406 feet (by no measuring system I am aware of), plays about 550. I was told there's a lefty gap over the road, but since there's an untrimmed apple tree and long weeds up at the road, any shot short of say 350 would have a basically blind shot to the basket. This was the only understable righty hyzer I can remember too. We were all over the map on this one. There were undoubtedly no 2s and plenty of 4s on this hole.

16, 440 feet uphill all the way. Not just slightly uphill, I seem to recall 47 feet uphill. Oh yeah, Par 3. Guess how many 2s were on that hole?

10, 449 basically flat but throwing across a valley, slightly uphill, through a crappy gap that was set up for about the only righty flexshot on the course. I tried to throw over the tree, yet another lefty turnover, but over compensated and threw it way too high so my distance was compromised. Frustration led to a 4 as I saw the flag but did not hike 100 feet up the hill to see that the basket was 40 feet farther than I had thought. My bad, and one of my only mental errors of the round.

There are no Par 2s on this course!

The only hole I would say is best for a lefty is hole 1. Maybe hole 2. Of the par 3s, one is gettable reasonably for a lefty. Hole 2. It's about 500 feet downhill.

wit
Jun 24 2007, 11:05 AM
nice shoootin' Matt...

you apologized to your card for whinin'..... now what about us? :D

circle_2
Jun 24 2007, 02:36 PM
Yeah...I thought they were all lefty holes...! :p :eek: ;)

ck34
Jun 24 2007, 03:22 PM
No live scoring today?

seewhere
Jun 24 2007, 03:48 PM
live scoring (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/live.php?TournID=6271)

ck34
Jun 24 2007, 06:03 PM
Crabtree must be putting on quite the exhibition: 12 down with one to go.

MiTTenZZ
Jun 24 2007, 06:05 PM
Oh Steve...

moolie
Jun 24 2007, 06:17 PM
Any know know why Barry DNF'd?

MiTTenZZ
Jun 24 2007, 06:19 PM
I was just wondering the same. Great shooting by Kyle there at the end. That his first NT win?

g1iguy
Jun 24 2007, 06:23 PM
How about scores for the lead card of women?

MTL21676
Jun 24 2007, 06:37 PM
wow - 47 - best round by 4.

anytime you have the best round by 4 strokes in an NT, that is killing it.

ck34
Jun 24 2007, 06:49 PM
1080. If that holds up when the official ratings come out in August, that will knock Schwebby out of the top five rated rounds for courses in the 54 to 59.9 category and put Kyle in 4th.

cbdiscpimp
Jun 24 2007, 07:24 PM
Congrats to Kyle on his NT!!! And with a 1080 rated round that has to be the course record right???

MiTTenZZ
Jun 24 2007, 07:59 PM
1080. If that holds up when the official ratings come out in August, that will knock Schwebby out of the top five rated rounds for courses in the 54 to 59.9 category and put Kyle in 4th.


Was Schwebs high rating from Peoria in 2002 or 2003?

ck34
Jun 24 2007, 08:14 PM
I think it was 2002. The records are posted in the Highest Rated Rounds Ever thread in the Ratings topic area.

bschweberger
Jun 24 2007, 08:24 PM
My record at McNaughton will NEVER be Broke

junnila
Jun 24 2007, 08:40 PM
Any know know why Barry DNF'd?



shoulder injury

bschweberger
Jun 24 2007, 08:43 PM
Severe, or is he just being careful to get ready for World's?

moolie
Jun 24 2007, 08:45 PM
Thanks JuJu.

winonaradiosteve
Jun 24 2007, 09:18 PM
Anyone know for sure if Mr. Climo cashed or not, 22nd of 67 or so will probably be around the cutoff i would think (with little effort put into looking for the payout schedules). maybe the TD can extend it down if its not and pay them all like $5 or something just so he can keep the streak going.

Is this a sign that some of today's DG courses are getting too tough and long for him to compete amongst the young guns?

bschweberger
Jun 24 2007, 09:32 PM
not at all, he is 2 or 3 spots into the cash. Kenny can compete on any course at any time, he just happened to have a Very Bad weekend to his standards. He is Human.

junnila
Jun 24 2007, 09:32 PM
Anyone know for sure if Mr. Climo cashed or not, 22nd of 67 or so will probably be around the cutoff i would think



68 * .40 = 27.2

I am pretty sure he cashed.

junnila
Jun 24 2007, 09:35 PM
Severe, or is he just being careful to get ready for World's?



I'm not sure. I hope it's not severe, I want to see Barry, Kenny, and Cale battle it out up at Highbridge. Not that I'm rooting for anyone in particular. :D

denny1210
Jun 24 2007, 09:35 PM
Is this a sign that some of today's DG courses are getting too tough and long for him to compete amongst the young guns?


that's a joke, right?
you're talking about the reigning world champion.

Dana
Jun 24 2007, 10:34 PM
My record at McNaughton will NEVER be Broke



where was the pin for hole 16?

we're having a c-tier this weekend- 1st round mcnaughton longs. i'll let ya know if anyone breaks it :D

MTL21676
Jun 24 2007, 10:57 PM
yeah Dustin Fee!! That's my boy!

I still got that hat in the car - lol

dfee
Jun 25 2007, 01:08 AM
yeah Dustin Fee!! That's my boy!

I still got that hat in the car - lol



Come on man, that hat should be on your head!! :D

MarcusHazle
Jun 25 2007, 01:19 AM
they paid out the top 24 per what the TD posted at swope. KC should have cashed.

Kyle's round was incredible - most likely two strokes from perfect. I beleive he missed 7 and 8...some of the other guys got em. Congrats

TheGatewayKid
Jun 25 2007, 02:12 AM
yeah feezy, way to deezy. great job danny as well. go pro already you baggers.

kgomez
Jun 25 2007, 11:40 AM
Great playing Crabtree! Congratulations on your first NT win!!

chappyfade
Jun 25 2007, 11:49 AM
they paid out the top 24 per what the TD posted at swope. KC should have cashed.

Kyle's round was incredible - most likely two strokes from perfect. I beleive he missed 7 and 8...some of the other guys got em. Congrats



We paid 27. Kenny cashed. I'll have that info up later today.

Kyle's round was almost flawless. He missed the short #7, and reachable #8. He also parred #18, which is very deucable for those guys, but with the 5 shot lead, I think he was just playing it a little bit safe on that hole. Otherwise, it was as mistake-free a round as I've ever witnessed.

Barry hurt his throwing shoulder on 17 at Blue Valley on Saturday, and tried to gut his way through it at Swope on Sunday, but finally he shut it down after a few holes. He said he's going to get it checked out soon by a doctor....hopefully it's nothing serious.

Bruce Hudson cut open his calf on something at Water Works Friday, and had to withdraw.

Also, Feldberg apparently is playing with a broken right hand. I guess he whacked it on something at the DGLO 2 weeks ago.

USDGC Qualifiers were:

Adam Olsen
Ross Brandt
Matt Hall
Ron Convers
Chris Boro (won in a playoff over Matt Peckham)....it's too bad, too...I'd like to have seen both Chris and Matt get in.

Matt is right...Blue Valley is pretty righty-friendly. Maybe next year, we'll put Rosedale back in the pro rotation. Rosedale can be set up 2 ways....lefty-friendly OR REALLY, REALLY lefty-friendly.

Chap

DSproAVIAR
Jun 25 2007, 01:20 PM
Nice win DFee, congrats.

smurphy29
Jun 25 2007, 06:43 PM
Nice win DFee, congrats.


Nice Shooting D.Fee. When are you going to lose that good attitude? :D

paul
Jun 25 2007, 06:56 PM
Isn't time to cut him open and use him for research? He can't be human . . . .but I'm sure us mortals could benefit.

xterramatt
Jun 25 2007, 06:58 PM
Had a lot of fun. Great weekend and great people to play with. Nate was really composed when he took his 7 on his second to last hole of the round. A 4 would have given him 45, and a birdie on the last hole (one of the easiest) would have given him a 44. It was an awesome round to watch. Such a smooth confident putter.

I was a little pumped after my Blue Valley round. I don't underestimate how hard the course is for lefties. It's mainly just frustrating to play lots of turnovers over and over. But it did give me some good practice on a part of my game that I don't get to use a whole lot. It's a fun course, and ironically, the one par 4 that bent left to right also had an advantageous "shortcut" over the top of hole 11s green. So even though I would havebeen able to throw a couple hyzers, I would have essentially been playing the hole solo while the others went the other route. So yeah, I guess that's a lefty hole, but not having played it before, I followed my group (even though I had the pad).

It felt good to finally put 4 1000 rated rounds together, and it was even nicer to keep getting better each day instead of doing the peak valley peak sorta thing.

Thanks for some good memories KC. I had fun.

dfee
Jun 25 2007, 06:58 PM
Nice win DFee, congrats.


Nice Shooting D.Fee. When are you going to lose that good attitude? :D



I'll make sure to have it gone the next time I shoot with you.. :D

cornhuskers9495
Jun 26 2007, 12:35 AM
Glad you came Peckham, It was good to see ya... Nice shootin'!

jdflyer
Jun 26 2007, 03:36 PM
Well, it only took me two years to figure this out, BUT the KCWO (and DGLO) articles on PDGA Tour (http://www.pdgatour.com) now feature interviews with the round leaders at the end of each day.
I think this gives readers a better perspective, rather than regurgitating scores and generic info. Enjoy...enjoy!

michellewade
Jun 26 2007, 08:00 PM
Besides the pics on the pdga web site for this event, has anyone seen any other photos?

CONGRATULATIONS KYLE!!!! ;)

brock
Jun 26 2007, 08:39 PM
"Without Dave [Feldberg], I think I would have made some wrong disc selections," Kyle [Crabtree] said, telling of the growing friendship and rivalry between the two. "I saw Dave throwing a Wraith and switched discs a couple times."

this is some good stuff John, thanks for the link.
All of the interviews were fun and informative.

The Val and Des battle at Highbridge will be sweeeeet

ck34
Jun 26 2007, 09:33 PM
Val will have her hands full with approach shots at Highbridge with the women playing the most wooded set of three long courses of any division.

olsen129
Jun 26 2007, 11:59 PM
Thanks all who helped with this event. Thank you to Brian and Leslie Palmer for hosting and welcoming us into your home. Leslie, the food was great! We will definately be calling next summer.

Tkeith
Jun 27 2007, 01:18 AM
Yea matt, i will agree with you that blue valley is definatly not a lefty friendly course, it cost me some strokes for sure.

TK