mbohn
Apr 02 2007, 12:55 PM
Please think hard! This is an important subject and your teacher might be reading this...

MTL21676
Apr 02 2007, 01:14 PM
Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist & lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a total mses & you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.

veganray
Apr 02 2007, 01:19 PM
Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist & lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a total mses & you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.



Good thing 4 u, or none of your posts would be intelligible. :D

abee1010
Apr 02 2007, 01:31 PM
WOW that is amazing. I read that whole post just as fast as I would have if it was spelled normally...

mbohn
Apr 02 2007, 01:35 PM
mea 2

rollinghedge
Apr 02 2007, 01:51 PM
Yeah, but you still need all of the correct letters in each word. See: dmbhuset or dmbuhsit

Hogger
Apr 02 2007, 07:01 PM
You can only mix up the letters of each syllable. Otherwise it becomes a giant word scramble.

sandalman
Apr 02 2007, 07:54 PM
"Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy..."

seems to work no matter how many syllables are scrambled. its only the first and last letter

tokyo
Apr 02 2007, 10:39 PM
Then why do I get counted off for spelling on papers when they know what I am trying say. I am paying them so if what I am saying is correct then why should it matter if I miss spell a word or forget a comma?

specialk
Apr 02 2007, 10:50 PM
I don't never made speller erroneous.

sandalman
Apr 02 2007, 11:29 PM
i'm with you tokyo. if the purpose of language is to communicate, then as long as the message gets thru everything is good.

sandalman
Apr 02 2007, 11:34 PM
check the in-thread polling :cool:

specialk
Apr 02 2007, 11:37 PM
Then why do I get counted off for spelling on papers when they know what I am trying say. I am paying them so if what I am saying is correct then why should it matter if I miss spell a word or forget a comma?



Let me see if I've gotten this right... You're paying them to teach you English (I assume you are in school) and you can't understand why they take points away for doing it wrong?

marshief
Apr 03 2007, 12:38 AM
Then why do I get counted off for spelling on papers when they know what I am trying say. I am paying them so if what I am saying is correct then why should it matter if I miss spell a word or forget a comma?


I am a graduate student TA for a class on weather and the atmosphere. This class has 350 undergrads in it. One of the assignments is to keep a "weather log" for a week. Thankfully there is another TA for the class, so I only have to grade 175 of these puppies. Spelling (although I don't take points off for it) makes a huge difference, mostly in your grader's attitude toward you.

"There was no perception from the sky today."
Sucks for the sky!

"Once again, there was no participation in sight."
Participation in what?

"The weather today for boulder was sunny."
I'm glad the rock was sunny. Now what about the city of Boulder?

"The sun was shinning brightly today."
How exactly does the sun "shin"?

By the way, it's "misspell (http://www.yourdictionary.com/library/misspelled.html)" not "miss spell."

august
Apr 03 2007, 08:31 AM
i'm with you tokyo. if the purpose of language is to communicate, then as long as the message gets thru everything is good.



No. The manner of delivery sets humans apart from monkeys, who can also get their message through, albeit in a more archaic, less sophisticated way.

sandalman
Apr 03 2007, 09:50 AM
mike, are you saying then that the purpose of language is to communicate correctly? instead of just communicate? it is an interesting angle.

august
Apr 03 2007, 11:20 AM
Where do you get that from? The post clearly speaks of the manner of communication and does not mention its purpose.

The answer to your question is no.

sandalman
Apr 03 2007, 11:32 AM
i got it from your post that brought up "manner of delivery" in response to a post i made about the purpose of communication.

doot
Apr 03 2007, 12:17 PM
"Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy..."

seems to work no matter how many syllables are scrambled. its only the first and last letter



It's also the context in which it's used. Take the words out of a sentence, and it's a lot harder to decipher.




Dsicglof wlil fovreor rcok my wrlod





answer is obvious because it's a sentence.













sltaepr mfcoosirt tuesiss cnleaadr





=






stapler microsoft tissues calendar (can you tell I do office work?)

take the words out of sentence and it's harder to "read" the misspellings.

august
Apr 03 2007, 12:23 PM
I see. I made the mistake of not pointing out specifically that my response spoke to the part of your post saying that as long as the message gets through, it's all good.

My point is that humans have aspired to a higher form of communication. It's like table manners in a way. Eating with no utensils gets the job done in that the food still gets in your stomach and nourishes you. However, that method of eating is usually frowned upon, at least in the social settings in which I find myself. Similarly, poor grammar skills may still get the message across, but not in a manner that's universally considered "all good" or that sends a message of "I know what I'm talking about".

What a person says communicates much more than simply the subject matter of the statement made. The manner of delivery and command of the language being used are important factors in successful communication, in my opinion.

sandalman
Apr 03 2007, 12:49 PM
agreed that it does. i even agree that in many cases it should. exceptions are gonna be in things like cross-cultural settings or when (business example) an exec needs to get information directly from a much lower ranking person.

i wonder if monkeys have communication "manners" or styles that vary from group to group?

Coryan
Apr 03 2007, 01:07 PM
What a person says communicates much more than simply the subject matter of the statement made. The manner of delivery and command of the language being used are important factors in successful communication, in my opinion.

Proper grammer, spelling, etc. also reduces the chance of miscommunication or misunderstandings. Thus, it reduces the chance that we slightly evolved apes don't throw feces instead of disc! (Although some have said my disc throwing looks like siht.)

august
Apr 03 2007, 01:38 PM
i wonder if monkeys have communication "manners" or styles that vary from group to group?



An excellent question for Jane Goodall.

Jane? (don't know if she hangs here or not)