Player A and B are on a team and are playing against player C and D. If player A marks player C's disk with a mini and picks up player C's disk by accident thinking it is player B's disk. Would a penalty be given to player A and B's team? What about if player C and D don't use player C's disk?

Since it was marked, I think the only thing that could be called is a courtesy violation.

DGRZ's???

I doubt there is a penalty involved...perhaps a quick gander into the rulebook might explain a lot :o

Would this courtesy violation be called as a warning first then a penalty if repeated?

I've looked into the rule book but I couldn't find anything specific because of this being a situation only brought up by team play. As well as I don't remember seeing anything about marking another players disc during singles play.

803.07C It's a 2-shot penalty to touch another player's disc until it's been determined to not be in play by that player or team.

Not if you are checking for identification, if you mark it, check for a name and then put it back you will not be stroked, 803.07 C. How else would lost discs make it back to tourney central?

If you already know its Player C's or D's disc then you are violating the interference rule.

"803.7 C. Any player who consciously alters the course of a thrown disc, or consciously moves or obscures another player�s thrown disc at rest or a marker disc, other than by the action of a competitively thrown disc or in the process of identification, shall receive two penalty throws, without a warning, if observed by any two players or an official. "

Reread that rule again. It states consciously moves or obscures another player�s thrown disc. What if the player thought that this disc that was moved was his partner's disc? It is obvious that the player thought that this was his partner's disc b/c why would he mark the lie?

If a marker is placed down and the disc is then lifted, it indicates the player has "identified" the disc even if they didn't actually do it and a 2-shot penalty would be incurred. If the disc is turned over to identify it before a marker is placed, then no penalty. You clearly stated that a marker was placed and the disc picked up, thus a penalty. This penalty has been around for many years. I saw a woman on the lead card get this 2-shot penalty in the 1994 Worlds. I think it should be 1-shot to be consistent with the rule for playing from another player's lie, but that's the way it reads today.

I'm with Lance on this one.

I've read this a hundred times, and this is the first time I saw it as a complete clause.

"C. Any player who consciously alters the course of a thrown disc, or consciously moves or obscures another player�s thrown disc at rest or a marker disc, other than by the action of a competitively thrown disc or in the process of identification, shall receive two penalty throws, without a warning, if observed by any two players or an official."

Does the word "consciously" apply only to "moves or obscures" or to the rest of the phrase as well?
Do you have to realize that it is another player's disc in play before the two stroke penalty applies?

It's nuts to penalize someone who inadvertantly marks a disc he thinks is his, and picks it up. It's clear to me that that penalizing that action IS NOT what is intended by the rule. If anyone actually penalized someone two strokes for that honest mistake, I would view them as an extreme loser.

Don't be an unnecessary slave to rule language. Discern the intent, which is almost always rational and fair, and follow the intent; don't sqeeze some interpretation out of the language which clearly wasn't intended.

Yeah, my thought is that: you marked the disc and picked it up. You know where it was marked, if the other doubles team was anything but complete jerks, you would think they'd be cool with that. It's an honest mistake, and the disc is still marked for them to then throw from, right?

I believe this rule has been applied since the original rulebook. It's based on 15-3b in the USGA ball golf rulebook which is also a 2-shot penalty for picking up or playing another player's ball. You can say it shouldn't be a penalty but that's the rule. The poster asked what the rule was and that's the answer.

This doesn't match up to playing another player's ball because there is another rule for that.

I'm merely arguing the text of the rule. A phrase is a single unit of thought and meaning.

This rule applies to interference. The act of intentionally interfering with another player's shot or ability to play a lie. I would think that the rule as written requires that the offending player be aware that the disc he is moving belongs to another player before the rule applies.


Also, In keeping with the rules of BG, unless you are playing clean and place, it is a penalty to touch your own ball except on the green, therefore it should be a penalty to touch anyone else's ball. In disc golf we basically play clean and swap on every throw.

Just because the penalty is there for this scenario doesn't mean it will be applied. The rule goes on to state that the infraction has to be called by two players or official. I would be shocked if anyone on the Rules Committee or the Competition Director said anything other than a 2-shot penalty for this scenario because that penalty has been consistently applied over the years when observed. Doubles actually has no bearing on this unless the other team had already marked the lie of the other player's disc such that the disc in question was in theory out of play at that point.

I'm with Lance on this one.

I've read this a hundred times, and this is the first time I saw it as a complete clause.

"C. Any player who consciously alters the course of a thrown disc, or consciously moves or obscures another player�s thrown disc at rest or a marker disc, other than by the action of a competitively thrown disc or in the process of identification, shall receive two penalty throws, without a warning, if observed by any two players or an official."

Does the word "consciously" apply only to "moves or obscures" or to the rest of the phrase as well?
Do you have to realize that it is another player's disc in play before the two stroke penalty applies?



"other than by the action of a competitively thrown disc or in the process of identification" I would argue a disc must be marked and picked up period. so how can a penalty be imposed at all..? Another Lance weighs in.