I have some proto Wizards and proto Aviars and want to use them in sanctioned tournaments. How do I know if they're approved?

Check the PDGA Approved Disc List (http://www.pdga.com/discs.php)

That list seems out-of-date, there's no Torque, no Skeeter, no Inferno, no Warlock...

Up-to-date thru March 8.

I checked, the dics that you listed are on the approved list.

Is the DGA Rogue approved? It isn't on the DGA or the Discraft list.

I foresee this PDGA approved business getting way out of hand soon. The rules seem to leave a lot of gray area, let alone the enforcement of them. For example, there is no TL, no Beast retool, no Starfires at all...and I only looked at Innova. That list is a joke. It lists all of the CE drivers, which haven't been produced in 5 years, and does not list anything in pro or star, or champion plastic.

Anyway, the point is that this list means almost nothing and I'm not worried a bit about continuing to use my Rogue and anything else I want because the ambiguity of this whole subject makes practical enforcement completely impossible.

If I understand the approval process right it's the mold that is approved. Not the plastic.

Now, as for the Teebird and Teebird-L then that is a different mold so I'd expect to see the two on the list. Just like the Birdie and XD (Retool).

Maybe someone could clarify that one? :confused:

I suggest looking at the most current list. It shows the TL and the Rogue.

Approved list as of March 8, 2007 (http://www.pdga.com/documents/tech_standards/PDGA_approved_discs_and_targets.pdf)

Don't know why the CE discs are listed except that they may have been the first of the premium plastic types before it was decided not to retest every mold in every plastic.

I'm pretty sure that unless there is a complaint about rigidity that once a design passes technical inspection, that disc is good in whatever plastic it is made in.

All of the discs listed so far are on the list

If a disc is not on the list and is challenged, it can not be used in sanctioned play.

People are probably not looking at the pdf list which is actually up to date, the other lists on the site have not been updated in a long while

to answer the question - as long as you are sure that they are actually Aviars and Wizards, then they are fine.

In my opinion if the disc passes all the requirements for pdga approval and the discs' name eventually received pdga approval than YES, prototypes are legal.

The fee we pay for approval covers the testing and the marketing of the name of the disc and its ability to be used for pdga play.
If you change the name of the disc and not the mold you would still need to pay another fee and have it retested.

If you change the name of the disc and not the mold you would still need to pay another fee and have it retested.



This seems really lame to me :)

I dont really have a problem with the way the rule is set up now but it seems like there are an awful lot of discs with extra names like L, X and those listed with different polymer types and acronyms before the names that are getting by this rule without having to pay the extra fee.

I have been asking for a revamp of the tech standards and testing for over 3 years now.
Dave D, Jim K and I were working on a few rule modification that could help the integrity of the game without limiting technological advancement, but according to my comrades it wasnt going anywhere and the talks broke off last spring!.


What constitutes a new name you are using to market a disc that would require an additional fee?

We have "E" evolution discs and "S" Shur-Grip discs that are from the same mold but definitely different flying discs.
I'm not saying I want to pay any extra money but at what point does a disc require another testing and approval?
Is it when a letter is added before or after the name or when the disc actually looks and flies different?

If I retool the sabre into a high speed driver and still call it sabre I'm pretty sure I dont have to pay another approval fee., just get it retested.
But if I change the name sabre to apache and its still the same disc than I have to pay another $200.00

I agree this part is lame! :confused: