Tar Heel Tournament
April 7-8, 2007
NC Disc Golf Champions Series Event
B-tier 4 rounds

Division entries are as follows: Intermediate-$30, Advanced-$40, Pro-$60

For online registration go to the UNC Disc Golf club website:

UNC Disc Golf- 2007 Tar Heel Tournament (http://cf.unc.edu/discgolf/tournament.cfm)

The tournament flier will be posted here shortly.

The other option is to mail a check to me, payable to Matthew Halton Smith.

Make sure to include:
1.Name
2.PDGA #
3.Division
4.email address
5.mailing address

Matthew Halton Smith
213 Columbia Place West
Chapel Hill, NC 27516

right on here we go can't wait for this jewel of a tourney. one of my favorite courses for sure. are you going to string a bunch of fake o.b. again this year? will we get to play the temp holes again? sending my money in today. Halton you are not playing am at this thing are ya? :D

Another course I have wanted to play and never got the chance. Looking forward to it Halton, I'm all in.

**** i am not going to be able to get away from you this year am i? :D

I've only got one shot at it brotha, when that child is born my world will change and I am sure disc golf will slide down another rung on the ladder. I am sure I'll have to miss a few along the way, besides you're a more seasoned golfer than myself and your game is just fine. I'm no bother to the Big Wave! See you this weekend brotha!

When I tried to register as an Intermediate, PayPal is trying to charge me $42 instead of $32. Also, there is nowhere on the PayPal form to put my PDGA #.

Can't wait to represent NC State in this tourney. ;)

Thanks for that info Toomes, I am investigating right now!

Traditional OB Rope?

Added holes?

Intermediate button should be fixed as soon as our webmaster can get to it (sometime before 5 today).

As far as OB is concerned, I spent $35 on orange string last year, thinking about cutting it back to around $10 this year, stringing only the holes where safety is an issue. I am hoping to have the same holes #19& 20 as last year, will let you all know ASAP.

I think that the only hole that needs any string at all is hole 3, just b/c the island green makes it a make or break hole, when without the rope is at worst a 3 for most players.

Hole 4 is long enough and with OB left, in my opinion, doesn't need OB

Hole 6 is good hole without the OB as well.

Just opinions.

Looking forward to the tournament!

Hole 3 will be strung, discs far right are in the path of hole 2 and blind because of the pond berm. The rest are tbd.

I've only got one shot at it brotha, when that child is born my world will change and I am sure disc golf will slide down another rung on the ladder. I am sure I'll have to miss a few along the way, besides you're a more seasoned golfer than myself and your game is just fine. I'm no bother to the Big Wave! See you this weekend brotha!



seasoned? your pdga is older than mine? and what ever you whooop me on a regualr basis. i love it buddy i hope we get to play every tourney together it is always a pleasure playing wit G.I. Joe. Go Joe!

i see how it is yall, no mention of Vee, although i do love playing with both of all.

But yes this was one of my fav tourneys ive played, so im all in #$*&$!, ill get the cash in soon. cant wait

V at the Chapel thrill!!!

Where we partyin' HAL?? Chef's sisters'?

by seasoned, I thought that you had been playing longer than me. 2 years three months here......if nothing else you certainley have more courses under your belt. Nevertheless, I enjoy shooting with you. No one was trying to leave you out Vee, you da man!

When I tried to register as an Intermediate, PayPal is trying to charge me $42 instead of $32. Also, there is nowhere on the PayPal form to put my PDGA #.



Everything should be working fine now with Paypal.
When registering online please remember to fill out the information box (Name and PDGA# required)

Where we partyin' HAL?? Chef's sisters'?



Playas party at John Sheffields house, also check out this sweet flier:

2007 Tar Heel Tournament Flier (http://cf.unc.edu/discgolf/THT_flyer.pdf)

by seasoned, I thought that you had been playing longer than me. 2 years three months here......if nothing else you certainley have more courses under your belt. Nevertheless, I enjoy shooting with you.


I went to Dick's Sporting Goods on New Years Day 2005 and bought the begginers pack a DX leopard, shark and avair and went and played the payne i was pretty much hooked from that day forward. so 2 years 3 months and 7 days. you gota love it.

Well that explains why we shoot about the same then. We both turned into disc golf crack heads about the same time and never looked back. That's awesome!

ju said it man. see ya satedee.

Halton that is one snazzy fleir man that looks great!

Joe, you'll be a great Dad and having kids will make your disc golf all the more rewarding. That time will be here before you know it :)

I can't wait man, I am so excited!

ju said it man. see ya satedee.

Halton that is one snazzy fleir man that looks great!



Thanks to our web designer, Brian Naess for that one!
He keeps us lookin' sharp. Make sure to print and post all over your bedroom (and local courses)!

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The Tar Heel Tourney will be the first tourney of the year featuring both NC Champions Series Points AND USDGC Points!!!! :eek:

Disc Golf Easter Weekend!

Bringing a new meaning to the Easter Basket!

And we will have <font color="pink"> 20 </font> Easter Baskets for this years Tournament !!!

I am also soliciting opinions on OB for this year.
What did people who played last year think?
More? :)
Less? :(
Just right? /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Most of the OB last year was good. Definitely didn't like it on hole 4. Its already a tough hole to get but w/ the OB it was pointless to go for. I liked it much better w/ just the creek OB to the left. That should save you a bunch of $ for that string too. Just my opinion, but shared by almost everyone I played w/ last year.

I am also soliciting opinions on OB for this year.
What did people who played last year think?
More? :)
Less? :(
Just right? /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif



think that the only hole that needs any string at all is hole 3, just b/c the island green makes it a make or break hole, when without the rope is at worst a 3 for most players.

Hole 4 is long enough and with OB left, in my opinion, doesn't need OB

Hole 6 is good hole without the OB as well

I didnt like the way hole 8 was played. Just make the water casual or OB no drop necesary.

I would prefer to play without any o.b. on hole 4 other than the creek on the left. Hole 6 doesn't need anything artificial to make it tougher on lefties, it already is. I know something needs to be done on 3 and 8, but trust your judgement. Thanks for the effort

Hole 6 will not have any string this year

Where we partyin' HAL?? Chef's sisters'?



Playas party at John Sheffields house, also check out this sweet flier:

2007 Tar Heel Tournament Flier (http://cf.unc.edu/discgolf/THT_flyer.pdf)



Once again, Bagels on the Hill will be setting up a free bagel station BOTH mornings and catering the same awesome lunches as last year. Donna is discounting the lunches almost $2 just for our tournament. You can't get a better deal anywhere!

The players packs this year will include a DX Big bead Aviar and a DX Ontario Roc, both of which will be custom stamped.
I also realize that a number of folks prefer not to have discs with Tar Heels stamped on them. For this reason, I am planning to have box of regular DX Aviars and Rocs available for trade out with the Tar Heel stamped players pack discs. These trade outs will be on a first come first serve basis. So get to the course early on Saturday for check in.

why would anyone not want a disc with a tarheel stamp on it? i am confused. Go HEELS! 2007 ACC Confrence and Tournament Champion's. Halton does psycho T's big ***** play disc golf?

I got a super nice translucent green Discraft Crush with a Tarheel ghost stamp on in as part of my Am winnings at the THH a few years ago. I found the perfect use for it a couple weeks back. A Ript rule was pulled on me right before I had to drive over 150' of water: throw a scoobie. Well.....that disc made it almost half way across! :eek: :D

We are 1/4 full!!!!

For those interested in camping, Jordan Lake State Park offers tremendouse facilities within ~30 min of the course.

Jordan Lake State Park Website (http://ils.unc.edu/parkproject/visit/jord/home.html)

campground map (http://ils.unc.edu/parkproject/visit/jord/jord.pdf)

The players packs this year will include a DX Big bead Aviar and a DX Ontario Roc, both of which will be custom stamped.
I also realize that a number of folks prefer not to have discs with Tar Heels stamped on them. For this reason, I am planning to have box of regular DX Aviars and Rocs available for trade out with the Tar Heel stamped players pack discs. These trade outs will be on a first come first serve basis. So get to the course early on Saturday for check in.



Because of limited colors and weightsin the DX BB and Ont Rocs, the players packs have changed!!!

All Ams will get a Tar Heel stamped Star BB Aviar, other possible stuff TBD!

Tar Heel is 1/3 full!!!!!!

1/2 full!!!

Hello Halton,

Hey Bro, when will 17 and 18 be in for practice?

For tournament purposes, the holes you are referring to are #19 and #20. I would like to have them up full time, but due to the ropes courses and other facilities, these temp holes can only be installed for the tourney. I hope to have the pads and basket positions marked the entire week prior to the tourney so that people can practice throw the hole without the baskets.
I only ask that no one throw these holes if there are any people in the field or in the vicinity of any of the ropes course apparatus.

The baskets should be up for practice all day on Friday April 6th.

Also, there will be random doubles on Friday April 6th, probably at 5:30.

All OB should be strung by Thursday.

sweet thanks for the info. do you expect 19 and 20 to be reatlivley similar to last years placment's?

sweet thanks for the info. do you expect 19 and 20 to be reatlivley similar to last years placment's?



#19 & 20 should be almost identical to last year, hoping to have disccatchers on all 20 holes. Anyone with a disccatcher mounted on a freestanding base please let me know if you are interested in 'sponsoring' hole 19 or 20.

That is great. both holes where great additions. downhill crush and tight up hill i loved them.

I only ask that no one throw these holes if there are any people in the field or in the vicinity of any of the ropes course apparatus.



I've played this course probably 40 or 50 times. I've only seen people on the ropes course once, yet almost every time I'm there someone else is playing disc golf. Hmmmmm.....

Just sent in my registration today! Excited about finally playing in a tourney in Chapel Hill. Looks like April is gonna be a fun month! First this and then the Azalea the week after!! Yeah baby! :cool:

I agree completely Eddie, the problem is that the ropes course(Carolina Adventures) is a private entity that generates its own money, while the disc golf course does not. Furthermore, the course was installed by Carolina Adventures, and has been threatened to be pulled if people continue to throw holes 1-4 when the ropes course is in session. We've had a few people go agro on the ropes course facilitators on the past, which is the real reason that old #17 and 18 were removed.

For those interested in camping, Jordan Lake State Park offers tremendouse facilities within ~30 min of the course.



I am thinking about hittin up Jordan Lake, anybody else thinking the same? If I camp out there, will I be able to make the Player's party, only worries...

It's not too far, Sheffy's place is about 5 min from the course.

Whats up with the open division?

Come on guys, this is a great course and a great tournament.

Not to mention one of the NC qualifying events for THE USDGC

This is a list of people who are scared :( :confused: :confused: :( ::mad::eek: :eek:

Player Name PDGA# State Country Rating Division
Brian Schweberger 12989 NC USA 1026 M Pro
Walter Haney 6001 NC USA 1025 M Pro
Brad McCoy 11410 NC USA 1015 M Pro
Mike Edwards 11411 NC USA 1003 M Pro
Larry Leonard 3832 NC USA 1002 M Pro
Benjamin Budd 12655 NC USA 1001 M Pro
Brent Mabry 12880 NC USA 992 M Pro
Rory Joyce 26809 NC USA 991 M Pro
Jack Schmalfeld 25378 NC USA 991 M Pro
David Leamy 7520 NC USA 988 M Pro
Alan Beaver 1213 NC USA 988 M Pro
Carlton Howard 2300 NC USA 987 M Pro
Carter Honeycutt 11923 NC USA 984 M Pro
Scotty Faison 14844 NC USA 984 M Pro
Matt Peckham 21325 NC USA 983 M Pro
Brad Benton 6823 NC USA 980 M Pro
Scott M. Anderson 12585 NC USA 980 M Pro
David Y. Gray 19571 NC USA 979 M Pro
Ryan Slim Pickens 12234 NC USA 978 M Pro
Greg Watson 16533 NC USA 975 M Pro
Jeb Bryant 24658 NC USA 969 M Pro
Logan Sheets 23780 NC USA 967 M Pro
Brett Byerly 9858 NC USA 966 M Pro
Neil Myers 13325 NC USA 966 M Pro
David French 16937 NC USA 966 M Pro
Rob Kelly 21143 NC USA 965 M Pro
Steve Millward 4128 NC USA 965 M Pro
Lance F. Campbell 31146 NC USA 963 M Pro
Perry Hardison 3464 NC USA 963 M Pro
Tripp Cole 24219 NC USA 961 M Pro
Fred Jarrett 25363 NC USA 959 M Pro
Craig Whitney 17596 NC USA 958 M Pro
Scott Crouch 18551 NC USA 957 M Pro
Michael Watson 10324 NC USA 957 M Pro
Brian S. Jones 24617 NC USA 955 M Pro

If you see any of these people, make sure to give them a big hug, a tissue, a warm bottle of milk, and tell them that everything is going to be OK..............as soon as they get signed up!!!! :D

I'm asuming most aren't scared, just having conflicts with Easter

Yeah, I agree, I was a little sceptical of scheduling on Easter, but Southard ran it a couple of years on this weekend with great turn out.
I am pretty sure that we will fill this year, hopefully we may get a few out of towners to hang around after the Pro Crosstown until Bowling Green the following week :o

I just played this course for the first time yesterday. I had heard it was cool, and it exceeded my expectations!! It's by far the most fun course to play in the Raleigh area in my opinion. That place is awesome!

i aggree it is a beautiful course and i thought you would like it with a great mix of open and wooded holes. not sure if you could tell but 15 14 and 13 are on what used to be the old carolina ball golf course. The same course Davis Love III learned to play on.

agreed - lots of good holes....14 and 15 are two of the most fun holes in the triangle.

Actually, holes 1-6, 8, 13-15 and 18 still play at least partially on what used to be Chapel Hill Country Club fairways. The CHCC was a 9-hole private course that was moved away in the mid 70's (for obvious drainage reasons) and the University bought the majority of the land, some of it going to the Mormon Church. After years of building tennis & volleyball courts, ropes courses, softball fields and parking lots, only about 5 of the original fairways remain intact.
Davis Love III probably never played the CHCC, he played Finley Golf Course as a Tar Heel. Great golf course and open to the public!

Not sure which hole it is, however, it is down a valley, and back up to the crest of a hill, basket sitting beside a tree. Now to me, that is the best and prettiest shot to watch in all of Carolina. Beats out hole 18 hickory, but just barely. If I could only throw it far enough to be able to watch my shot before it lands. UMMH
mini thumber, and cupcake thumber proud members team FFF

I do believe that would be Hole #14. It is a beautiful hole to watch a disc fly!

Actually, holes 1-6, 8, 13-15 and 18 still play at least partially on what used to be Chapel Hill Country Club fairways. The CHCC was a 9-hole private course that was moved away in the mid 70's (for obvious drainage reasons) and the University bought the majority of the land, some of it going to the Mormon Church. After years of building tennis & volleyball courts, ropes courses, softball fields and parking lots, only about 5 of the original fairways remain intact.
Davis Love III probably never played the CHCC, he played Finley Golf Course as a Tar Heel. Great golf course and open to the public!


so who designed the disc golf course?

definitely not scared, just have to pick and choose my weekends, since I have to werk 2 a month. Sorry, I have won that event 3 times, so defintely not scared.

Are Avery and Dave staying around, or are they flying home after the Dogwood?

Would make a good week of events in NC.

what is the field limited to.

Field will be limited to 110, however, any registrations received after April 5th will incur a $5 late fee.

When did you say the course would be layed out officially for practice rounds?

110?

Do you mean 100?

If need be, I will place a ghost hole on #1 and #6, neither should cause back up. Both are coming off long walks and play quickly. If the divisions fill in similar fashion to last year, I hope to ghost hole the pro women on hole #1, and pro masters on hole #6.
I am hoping that I will not have to turn anyone away from this tournament, if need be, I will give up my spot.


All baskets will be in the tournament position by Monday April 2nd (except #19 and #20). There will be a flag marking the basket position for these holes all week; baskets will be in place on Friday. String should be up by friday morning also.

Random doubles will be Friday evening at 5:30, meet at hole #8 (General Administration parking lot) $3 entry, $1 ace pool

cool, thanks for clarifying.

Anyone interested in sponsoring this year's Tar Heel Tournament?!?
We are offering 3 levels of Cash Sponsorship. The Gold Level Sponsor is $100+, with your logo/ information appearing in the Premier section of the players packages, website, all tournament fliers, and on at least three hole/amenity banners, as well as being announced before the mandatory players meeting and awards ceremony. The Silver Level Sponsor is $50+, with logo/ information appearing in the Silver section of the players packages, website, all tournament fliers, and on two hole/amenity banners, as well as being announced before the mandatory players meeting. The Bronze Level Sponsor is $30+, with logo/ information appearing in the Bronze section of the players packages, website, all tournament fliers, and on one hole/amenity banner.

PM me or call 919-883-6284

John Sheffield has already claimed sponsorship rights to hole #5.
(Hole #5 has a new long teepad, playing over 450 ft with lots of trouble, it is a deuceable par 4 {if that is not an oxymoron})
All divisions will be playing this new pad!!

dang, hole 5 is my third favorite hole on the course behind 14 and 15.

Oh well....look forward to the new hole.

Oh... I think it will still be one of your favorites... you'll see. It's a reachable 450

awesome then - I'll see it for the first time next Friday afternoon!

Oh... I think it will still be one of your favorites... you'll see. It's a reachable 450

Sounds like a Champion Shark Shot

Oh... I think it will still be one of your favorites... you'll see. It's a reachable 450

Sounds like a Champion Shark Shot



I don't know, there is a bit of a ceiling with the pad moved back.

You should come check it out :D

Where we partyin' HAL?? Chef's sisters'?



Playas party at John Sheffields house, also check out this sweet flier:

2007 Tar Heel Tournament Flier (http://cf.unc.edu/discgolf/THT_flyer.pdf)



Once again, Bagels on the Hill will be setting up a free bagel station BOTH mornings and catering the same awesome lunches as last year. Donna is discounting the lunches almost $2 just for our tournament. You can't get a better deal anywhere!



Correction!!!!!
Due to some unforeseen Easter issues, Bagels on the Hill will not be able to cater lunches this year. :( But do not fear!!! They will still be donating bagels and spread for all you hungry DGers. :)
Arrangement are being made with Breadmen's restaurant to cater lunches, one of my favorite diners in town. More info to come soon!!! ;)

John Sheffield has already claimed sponsorship rights to hole #5.
(Hole #5 has a new long teepad, playing over 450 ft with lots of trouble, it is a deuceable par 4 {if that is not an oxymoron})
All divisions will be playing this new pad!!



Yeah, I played that one... takes the hole from a three with a chance for a 2 (and maybe worse if I screw up) to a three with a chance for a three and a little bigger chance of screwing up. I kinda like it for a casual round...if I had my druthers I wouldn't play that one in competition, but it certainly won't keep me away either.

For people who have trouble clearing the treeline reliably from the regular pad, I think the main thing it does is make the hole more annoying. You pretty much trade the chance of getting stuck in the crud for the possibility that you can't aim a high second shot well enough to make putting range, so I don't anticipate the scores being much different there. Hazard's prediction: Noticeably less score spread for intermediates, slightly more for advanced and even less for pro.

(Disclaimer: I do not know what I am talking about.)

I need to send in my entry fee...

I agree to your disclaimer, and agree to send in your reg before the wait list begins. Send in your Sanford Spring Sling while you're at it.

Mini Thumber

I agree to your disclaimer



2nd ;)

Yes, this hole (#5) will be intimidating and frustrating for most of the intermediates. Along with #13, these will be the only 2 holes listed as par 4 on the official layout. It will give smarter, more conservative Am's a chance to make up a stroke or two on the more reckless players. I plan to trim the hedge line at the gap a little lower and open the gap up for the lay up shot. There will be basically two layup options:
1. Throw down to the opening of the gap, the risk is being too far left or right to line up the gap with the basket and too close to throw hyzer or thumber over the hedgeline.
2. Throw short to just the bottom left side of the hill, leaving plenty of room to hyzer over the hedgeline to the basket.

There will be a handfull of deuces on this hole over ther weekend, my projected scoring spread is:

Pro:
score % of field
2 : 7%
3 : 60%
4 : 25%
5+: 8%

Adv.
2 : 3%
3 : 33%
4 : 45%
5+: 19%

Int
2 : 1%
3 : 25%
4 : 50%
5+ : 24%

<font color="pink">TTrimmy CuTTers </font> has claimed sponsorship rights to hole #1 :cool:

Act now, and don't get left out!!!!

sounds like the next 3 tourneys' hole #1s will be TTrimmed

. Along with #13, these will be the only 2 holes listed as par 4 on the official layout.



Does this mean that hole 10 will be in the shorter pin?

Where we partyin' HAL?? Chef's sisters'?



Playas party at John Sheffields house, also check out this sweet flier:

2007 Tar Heel Tournament Flier (http://cf.unc.edu/discgolf/THT_flyer.pdf)



Once again, Bagels on the Hill will be setting up a free bagel station BOTH mornings and catering the same awesome lunches as last year. Donna is discounting the lunches almost $2 just for our tournament. You can't get a better deal anywhere!



Correction!!!!!
Due to some unforeseen Easter issues, Bagels on the Hill will not be able to cater lunches this year. :( But do not fear!!! They will still be donating bagels and spread for all you hungry DGers. :)
Arrangement are being made with Breadmen's restaurant to cater lunches, one of my favorite diners in town. More info to come soon!!! ;)



bREADMEN's is the heat!!! Been a while since I have even thought of that place...nice job HAL!

. Along with #13, these will be the only 2 holes listed as par 4 on the official layout.



Does this mean that hole 10 will be in the shorter pin?



YES

Actually, holes 1-6, 8, 13-15 and 18 still play at least partially on what used to be Chapel Hill Country Club fairways. The CHCC was a 9-hole private course that was moved away in the mid 70's (for obvious drainage reasons) and the University bought the majority of the land, some of it going to the Mormon Church. After years of building tennis & volleyball courts, ropes courses, softball fields and parking lots, only about 5 of the original fairways remain intact.
Davis Love III probably never played the CHCC, he played Finley Golf Course as a Tar Heel. Great golf course and open to the public!


so who designed the disc golf course?



Sorry Dave, I overlooked your post:

A polehole course was developed in the mid 90's following the basic layout of the remaining fairways from the CHCC. In 1997, Mike Lyons from OEC/ Carolina Adventures consulted Carlton Howard about baskets, and the Disc Golf Foundation ended up getting involved with Innova to provide half of the baskets. A good friend of mine, Brendan Moore, did an amazing amount of work to install a lot of the teepads, many by himself. Over the years, the dg course has been rearranged to make room for softball fields etc.

I'm just curious how many this tournament is going to be able to hold. I'm thinking it's gonna be more than 90 b/c of the extra holes but I'd like to know for sure so i know if i need to send the money in asap or if i have a few days to find out for sure if i can play or not.

110 is the max

20 5 somes and 2 ghost cards

3 more j-ville boys locked and loaded. boo-yaaaahh

Send your money in and stop pro-casteraynatin. I am also waiting on your entry to Sanford Slinger Spring Sling.

Mini and Cupcake Thumber

Logan,

MTL is correct, but remember that there will be a <font color="red"> $5 late fee for any registrations received after midnight on Wednesday April 4th! </font>

If this question has already been answered and I missed it, my apologies.

Is the water around #8's basket casual or OB? This will be my first tourney here and I would like to know for my practice rounds this next week. Thanks!

Most likely the water will play casual on #8. I will be posting all the OB at some point on monday once I put all the baskets into the tournament positions.

Most likely the water will play casual on #8. I will be posting all the OB at some point on monday once I put all the baskets into the tournament positions.



Would that be holes 1, 7,10,15 and 17? I think those are the only ones I remember from yesterday being different. Also, what is the other basket on #6 for? Just curious. Thanks for all your time and efforts!

The other basket on 6 is just for fun, it will be gone tomorrow.

Only 10 spots left!!!!!! :eek:

After watching the Crosstown, what a game. ^ days till I get to play. What a teaser

Mini Thumber, and Cupcake Thumber

Anybody Playing this course during the week? I'll be down there wed. and haven't played this course. I want to get in afew before the weekend. What up nc? holla back, Rruff!!

I'll be playing on Friday.

Weekly Monday random doubles at 5 (meet at hole #8) General Administration parking lot. $3 entry +$1 ace pool (over $100 currently)

Special Pre-Tournament Random Doubles on Friday April 6th, 5:30 pm. Same place, same price. We will be playing the 20 hole tourney set-up with all string/OB.

Ok Tarheel Baggers, somebody send directions to the course coming from the Pittsboro area,

Mini Thumber

Kewl Robert, i'll be there. I'll look for you, thanks. what time you be out there?

mid afternoon - thinking around 3 - 330. Gonna play doubles afterwards.

I will be there Friday afternoon as well, setting up a tent at the lake then hittin up the course around 3 or so. Looking forward to a great weekend, and adding this course to the list. :cool:

110 is the max

20 5 somes and 2 ghost cards


What are ghost cards?

Basically its like a group that kinda starts on a hole but kinda doesn't.

Let's say there is a ghose card on hole 1. This means there is 2 groups on hole 1 to start. The group on hole one plays the hole, then the second group (the ghost group) plays hole 1. Then the group from 18. Then 17, etc etc etc

Knappy, a ghost card is basically a card of golfers without a hole to start on.

So, you start 20 groups on 20 holes and the 2 ghost groups start on hole 1 as soon as the hole 1 starters finish the hole but before the hole 18 starters play hole 1.

LW (missing this one, but I'll see you at Wilmywood)

jinx!

check that, no doubles for me and I'll be out just after lunch. Forgot about the Hurricanes game Friday night.

Cross me off the scared list I'm in

2 spots left!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rocky,

Take 15-510 N to Chapel Hill, immediately after the exit for 54 W you will cross over a bridge. Take the exit to the right immediately after the bridge following the signs to UNC. This exit loops around under the bridge and onto Raleigh Rd. Take Raleigh Rd up the hill (~1/2 mile) to the first stoplight and take a left onto Country Club Rd. Take your 3rd right into Carolina Advertures Outdoor Education Center (big wooden sign with green mailbox) . Follow drive down to parking. Hole #1 is below the bathrooms building.

**For doubles on Friday night @5:30, we will be meeting at hole#8 (UNC General Administration parking lot) To get here follow the same directions as above except:
Immediately after looping under the 15-510 bridge, get in left lane and take your first left at the UNC General Administration sign, follow to back parking lot. Hole 8 is on your right

Cross me off the scared list I'm in




nice jack!

Thanks, Is hole 1 that one that goes down the roadway, with a fence on the right?, and is my GinkaLoba wearing off, because i am the only that asks for directions. I must be a lost bagger. Now where is my Firebird?

Mini Thumber

Thanks, Is hole 1 that one that goes down the roadway, with a fence on the right?, and is my GinkaLoba wearing off, because i am the only that asks for directions. I must be a lost bagger. Now where is my Firebird?

Mini Thumber



Answer #1: Yes, Hole #1 goes down the paved drive.

Answer #2: Lost, not sure. Bagger, definitely! ;)

Cross me off the scared list I'm in




nice jack!



Sorry, it's too late for editing :confused:

you will have to apeal your scaredlessness to the moderators :D

i'm thinking of playing unc today around 6 or so....is parking at the parking lot near hole 8 gonna be risky for getting towed or is it a safe place to park. i'm also going to be practicing wednesday morning and was curious if it was safe to park there then as well.

I'm pretty sure your good anytime to park near hole 8. I've never heard of anyone getting a ticket or being towed from there.

good, that's what i was hoping to hear b/c i know how bad parking can be around unc in most places.

I think I misunderstood something. Does each round consist of playing all 20 holes or just 18 of them? Thanks in advance!

20

Anyone looking for lodging let me know im looking for a place to crash or someone to split room cost with. Let me know something.

Incidentally, the last I heard regarding the parking is that you can get towed from the -upper- lot if you park there before 5 on a weekday, but the -lower- lot is fine unless it's reserved for some special event. I don't know whether that was official or not though.

Let the waitlist begin...............

just got to play the course and already halton and alex were out working on the tees and everything - course looks great and the commitment to making it better is awesome!

Quick question Hal that I forgot to ask you out there...on hole 8, what will we do? Same as last year (free drop)?

so where are the "upper" and "lower" lots? is it just that the parking lot there at hole 8 has two sections??

Yes! Sunny and Shaded

And up by hole 1 has a parking lot that gets monitored like it has treasure buried under it.

its has a treasure of a course under it, being the parking lot is higher up than the holes. " insert corny joke comment here"

just got to play the course and already halton and alex were out working on the tees and everything - course looks great and the commitment to making it better is awesome!

Quick question Hal that I forgot to ask you out there...on hole 8, what will we do? Same as last year (free drop)?



The club has taken the course to the next level, and Matt is a world class TD in the making.

MTL, I believe the water on 8 will play as casual.

its has a treasure of a course under it, being the parking lot is higher up than the holes.


Precisely

just got to play the course and already halton and alex were out working on the tees and everything - course looks great and the commitment to making it better is awesome!

Quick question Hal that I forgot to ask you out there...on hole 8, what will we do? Same as last year (free drop)?



The club has taken the course to the next level, and Matt is a world class TD in the making.

MTL, I believe the water on 8 will play as casual.



yes, water on 8 casual

so where is the safest place to park now that all the jokes have been made haha i'm trying to get a real answer so i don't get a ticket from the ticket nazi's of chapel hill

The lot by hole #1 is referred to as the upper lot, it is policed on weekdays 7-5. After 5 pm you can park there.
The UNC General Adminstration lot is commonly referred to as the bottom lot (by hole#8). I have not heard of anyone ever getting a ticket in the bottom lot.

word, thanks

Open - Chris Lee

Adv - Dave George

Adv Women - Dawn Geist

Int - Frank Murray

Int Women - Anita Gregory

If Mandi decided to play Advanced since no other Pro-women are playing she comes in 3rd.

Tar Heel Tournament Course Layout and OB

All holes tee from rectangular/ trapezoidal concrete pads except holes 1, 3, 16, 19, 20.
These holes tee from marked flags.

All concrete or asphalt pavement (except on hole #1), softball fields, tennis courts, volleyball courts, ropes course areas, the pond (surrounded by water), and all areas within the chancellor�s fence are OB. The old golf cart paths are NOT OB. All OB plays from last point in bounds EXCEPT on holes 2, 3; these holes have marked drop zones. All other water on the course is casual.
Hole #1. Tee from painted tee box on asphalt
Hole #2. OB pond, use marked drop zone.
Hole #3. Tee between flags (flypad or asphalt). All areas except for the island green are OB. Continue using drop zone until established in-bounds on green.
Hole #4. Left of creek is OB, play from last point in-bounds
Hole #5. Use back (pro) teepad!
Hole #7. Road left of fairway and driveway beyond pin are OB
Hole #8. Parking lot, high voltage power box and the concrete foundation beneath it are OB. Discs shall be marked and played from the last point in-bounds. All water is casual, play directly behind disc.
Hole#12. OB Left of fence at the top of the hill and string connecting to the back fence.
Hole#15. OB Left of cable fence and string.
Hole#16. Tee between flags from old concrete foundation.
Hole#19. Tee between flags from asphalt. OB on asphalt or right of driveway, top of buildings or inside ropes course (string).
Hole#20. Tee from flypad. OB on top of buildings, electrical boxes and wooden see-saw.

Directions to UNC Disc Golf Course

From 40, take highway 54 West toward Chapel Hill for approximately 4 miles. Once in town, highway 54 is also labeled as Raleigh Road. Remain on 54 W (Raleigh Rd) as you pass under the 15-501 bridge; as you begin up the hill, get in the left lane. Turn left at the stop light on to Country Club, go about 1/8 mile and take your 3rd right at the sign for Carolina Adventures Outdoor Education Center. Follow the driveway down to the parking lot. Hole #1 is at bottom of hill.

Directions to Players Party Saturday night at John Sheffield�s House (919-260-4535):
From hole #1 top parking lot



1: Head out the way you came in to park &lt;0.1 miles Map



2: Stay straight thru light on COUNTRY CLUB RD. 0.3 miles Map



3: Turn RIGHT onto BATTLE LN. 0.2 miles Map



4: Turn RIGHT onto E FRANKLIN ST. 0.6 miles Map



5: Turn RIGHT onto ROOSEVELT DR. 0.3 miles Map



6: Turn RIGHT onto HILLVIEW RD. &lt;0.1 miles Map



7: Turn RIGHT onto VALLEY PARK DR. 0.1 miles Map



8: End at 1112 Valley Park Dr
Chapel Hill, NC 27514-3325, US Map


From 40


1: Take the 15-501 exit off of 40 west 0.1 miles Map



2: Turn LEFT onto US-15 S / US-501 S / DURHAM CHAPEL HILL BLVD. Continue to follow US-15 S / US-501 S. 2.8 miles Map



3: Turn RIGHT onto S ESTES DR. 0.3 miles Map



4: Turn LEFT onto WILLOW DR. 0.2 miles Map



5: Turn LEFT onto VALLEY PARK DR. 0.2 miles Map



6: End at 1112 Valley Park Dr
Chapel Hill, NC 27514-3325, US Map

So Halton, can you tell us a little bit about hole 3? Is gonna be like last year?

anyone playing this afternoon?

Pretty much like last year, but drop zone will be closer.

Watson, I'll be out on the course in about an hour, probably not playing though.

BIG water mocassin, just spotted in the pond !!!!!! :o:o:o

anyone playing this afternoon?



Not today, but will be at the course between 1:00-1:30 tomorrow.

?, Last year in the open field there qwas OB around the baskets to simulate you were Island hopping to the basket. Will there be that this year. Does anybody know what I am referring too. The long arms just launched, and some cleared all the Islands to the Basket. Kinda Cool. Will that be the case this year.

Minui and Cupcake Thumber

Rock,

the only O.B. that will be played on hole 4 the hole you are reffering to is the ditch that runs along the left side of the fairway. no rope on that hole this year. the only hole that will have ropped off O.B. like last year is hole 3 i am pretty sure. but just above your post Halton has listed ALL the O.B. for this years event. hope this helps

Thanks wave, I was kinda of looking forward to Island hopping. Takes me back to my Hawaii days of all the little islands. Oh Well, let's tee off.

Mini Thumber

Will be playing the course and having a pic-nic at 1030 Friday if anybody wants to join. Confusion say, Moccassion in water OK, Moccassion out of water, RUN.

A tip from mini thumber

The course looks great guys! Played a couple rounds yesterday, and it just looks great! The new work on 4's tee is AWESOME!! Lots of work done on the course since last week. Big thanks to you guys. Cant wait to play this weekend...what the hell happened to spring :confused:

Will be playing the course and having a pic-nic at 1030 Friday if anybody wants to join. Confusion say, Moccassion in water OK, Moccassion out of water, RUN.

A tip from mini thumber



I just found out we don't have to work tomorrow. Looks like I might see you up there Rocky. Gotta check out the compitition. Might get some more Fayetteville guys to go, but it's gonna be hard to get them out of town 3 days in a row.

That would be awsome. Going to play casual, and enjoy the scenery. Some of those holes are relaxing, and fun to throw on. its eother 12, or 13. Big rolling hill that is a fun shot to both throw and watch. Of course my disc would land earlier than most, still fun to watch.
Hope to see you up there. Leaving Sanford at 0945. Got my anti tarhell spray.

Mini and Cupcake thumber

Ohhhhhhh... It is making me physically sick reading this and knowing I won't be playing this weekend. The course looks amazing right now (helped out by the gorgeous weather and the drying of the mud pits), but my parents are in town for the week. I only see them about once per year, so no dice on the tourney. Best of luck to all of you playing, and I'll try to make it out to friday dubs to play with the OB in place. The Chapel Hill course, under the direction of Halton and Andrew "Furious" George is becoming a pretty premier course and is only going to get better.

I have had several ask if I would take regerstrations to the Sanford Slingers Spring Sling at the Tar Heel tnmt. Yes I will with completed flyer, registration, and exact change, or check.
No wimps or whiners. If anybody can reach Briam Mcree, ask if he is defending his title.

Mini Thumber

If anybody can reach Briam Mcree, ask if he is defending his title.





Talked to him yesterday and said he was going.

I'll bring mine Rocky!

Bring em on guys. Want to have good turnout. Brian had a great tnmt last year, Robert has been playing well, and Clee has been scary lately. I think some of the Yadkinville boys are showing up.

Mini Thumber

Just got back from playing the course and everything looks really good! I have a question though. On hole #3, if you tee shot hits grass right of the creek but never touches the island and then rolls into OB, where do you drop? The drop zone or where it rolls out? If it touches the island at some point and then rolls out, would you drop where it went out on the island? Thanks in advance!

island greens are just that islands. your disc has to come to rest on the island in bounds. they are tricky but that is how it plays. if your disc lands on the island then rolls o.b. then you proceed to the drop zone and comense to emptying your bag until a disc comes to rest inbounds within the island. ask Kevin Burgess about this one he had alot of fun with it last year.

....... and comense to emptying your bag until a disc comes to rest inbounds within the island.



Good thing we're not limited to a certain number of discs like clubs in ball golf! :eek: :D

Also, how big is the island usually?

island greens are just that islands. your disc has to come to rest on the island in bounds. they are tricky but that is how it plays. if your disc lands on the island then rolls o.b. then you proceed to the drop zone and comense to emptying your bag until a disc comes to rest inbounds within the island. ask Kevin Burgess about this one he had alot of fun with it last year.


Actually this is a condition that the TD needs to cover during the players' meeting. For the Colorado Open, TJ Lawrence makes a few island holes and always specifies that if your disc CROSSES INTO the island and then lands out of the island, play it where it crosses. I'd recommend you check with Halton on this one.

But!,if your disc lands on the Island, drinks a martini, and stumbles off, then you re-drink, i mean re tee.

Now I got it
Mini Thumber

island greens are just that islands. your disc has to come to rest on the island in bounds. they are tricky but that is how it plays. if your disc lands on the island then rolls o.b. then you proceed to the drop zone and comense to emptying your bag until a disc comes to rest inbounds within the island. ask Kevin Burgess about this one he had alot of fun with it last year.


Actually this is a condition that the TD needs to cover during the players' meeting. For the Colorado Open, TJ Lawrence makes a few island holes and always specifies that if your disc CROSSES INTO the island and then lands out of the island, play it where it crosses. I'd recommend you check with Halton on this one.



Hole #3. Tee between flags (flypad or asphalt). All areas except for the island green are OB. Continue using drop zone until established in-bounds on green.

2 pages back from halton. it has already been discussed and playing the same as last year.

Almost the same as last year. This year the drop zone is to the right of the basket. It's 60 feet closer. :)

Just got back from playing the course and everything looks really good! I have a question though. On hole #3, if you tee shot hits grass right of the creek but never touches the island and then rolls into OB, where do you drop? The drop zone or where it rolls out? If it touches the island at some point and then rolls out, would you drop where it went out on the island? Thanks in advance!



Dave George pretty much hit this on on the head. Any tee shot that does not come to rest in bounds on the island (shaped like a giant Tar Heel, in order to counteract and overpower Rocky's special anti-tarhell sauce:D) will proceed immediately to the drop zone (Do not pass GO, do not collect $200).
Once you are at the drop zone, you will continue throwing from the drop zone until your disc comes to rest in bounds.
Once your disc is established in bounds, if you were to putt and go OB again :( , then you will take your lie from the last point in bounds(ie. where the disc went OB at).

I want to imphasize (and will do so again at the meeting) that the island is marked by the string, not the creek or anything else. The flags are there to aid the tee box view of the island boundaries.
If fact, there is a small sliver of OB short of the pin that is right of the creek and in the "arch of the Heel :o" that will really frustrate some players this weekend who throw what seems to be a short, conservative, safe shot just to the right of the creek.
I recommend that you keep your cool after going OB and make sure not to putt OB from the drop zone.

Man im ready to play, this was one of my fave tourneys last year and one of my fave courses, i cant wait to take a crack at this place again. And im loving the Tarheel OB. Rock will turn away from the darkside we hope and join the tarheel nation

Forget about da'Rock, I thought you were gonna move up...'White Pants Baggin' ...Kinda like "Dead Man Walking" only not nearly as serious...HHMMHHHMMM Wannna bet .5ocents I show u wat's up?

Im a 939 without a good finish in months, at no point did i say i was moving pro.

Dont forget me Allen, love ya like a brother from another mother.Coach K say's, as long as I have valid reason to infiltrate tar heel country, I may do so. That my anti tar heel lotion, will keep things in the Blue Devil motion. I look forward to this tnmt every year, and have played on the island, off, on the island off, and on the island many times.

Mini Thumber

:D

Baskets for #19 and 20 should be up by 2pm :D

Hudson wishes everyone good rounds this weekend.


Oh and don't forget your mini's

http://a453.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/25/l_233e81334348b94c46fb2153f202d6a4.jpg

somebody give that kid some innova

118 people! That is sweet! Don't forget to bring your stools :)

Ok everyone, it's just about to go try and fall asleep, but you can't because you can't stop playing the course in your head. :D

12 more hours and then it's time to get some birdies! See you all in the morning!

****!!!, I just looked at the registered list, and I don't know who that under 10 girl with a 980 rating is, but she is tearing it up!!!!

Your right Snapp, played the course yesterday. Course is awsome. Played it twice while I was sleeping, shot pretty good then, . Glad I'm not in the 10 and under women, check out those ratings. It's 4:30, Coffee, News, and lets boogie.

Mini Thumber

Lil Wiggy, does your father know you are up this late and looking at younger women online? :D

It's 7pm there, no results yet????????? Slackers!

It's 7pm there, no results yet????????? Slackers!



Got started about half an hour late and we had 20 holes of 5 somes. You do the math.

Open
Hofmann -14
CLee -12
Edwards -8
EOG -8
Smalls -6?
Yahn -6?

I'm pretty sure thats right.

Hey ladies and gents...So during the first round today I managed to lose my ipod. Luckily (from what Ive heard) Kozak, Wiggins Jr, and Capt Kirk found it and it ended up at tourney central. However, someone else thought it was theirs and took it. SO, if anyone runs across an Ipod Nano, White, in a black leather case, please please return it. If needed I can put out contact info.

Or maybe you guys can keep your eyes open for it.

Thanks.

Schwebbie must be skeered.
Nice shooting Head, keep it up!

you sexy peice of man chicken!!!! we miss you mitt's. Sassquatch aint scared, he had to work..we miss him too!

Clarification:

22 groups of 5 players on 20 holes.
Players meeting started 40+ minutes late.
Some players only had a 45 minute lunch break.

does anybody know if scores are posting this eve, or tomorrow? Trying to figure out if I want to stay up a little longer, or hit the rack. Teee time 0900

Tired Mini Thumber

Scores are up....

Okay, Hoffman, and Clee. How in de heck did you get those scores in that wind. Im watching you. I thought i did alright and Im in the middle of the pack, in intermediate.. Drinking milk, and gonna do better. Good stuff guy's

Mini Thumber

I NEED ANTI TARHEEL LOTION, ASAP!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

Schwebbie must be skeered.
Nice shooting Head, keep it up!

NOT, gots to werk sun.

I NEED ANTI TARHEEL LOTION, ASAP!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

Doesn't everybody

Schwebbie must be skeered.
Nice shooting Head, keep it up!

NOT, gots to werk sun.


Skeered.

Open

1. Hofmann
2. McRee
3. Mike Edwards
T4. MTL &amp; EOG
T6. C Lee &amp; Carter
8. Dirty Sheets
9. Hunter Todd
10. Jackie Smalls

Masters
1. Beav
T2. Peanut and Jim Conard
4. Captin

Adv.
1. Kyle Jackson
2. Andrew George
3. Whit Baker
4. Joe Noble

(could be joe then whit, not sure)

Adv Women
1. Jennifer Lowe
2. Mini Cupcake Thumber
3. Lindy
4. Anita

Intermediate
1. Curtis Muscerela
2. Jason Snapp
3. John Walker

Thanks to Hal and everyone in Chapel Hill for a great tournament.

congrats to head for playing consistent and shooting good in that wind yesterday!

No scores and round summaries? Your slipping MTL. :D

Good edit MTL! :D

McRee shot a smokin 51 this morning and Beeve had the hot afternoon round at 53. UNC is one of the most fun courses I play during the year. I had 4 great groups and got to play with Hoffy twice. Congrats Mike. Way to come back from last weekend.

I have 250 pictures from this afternoon's round. They are uploading now to my picasa website: http://picasaweb.google.com/bwknight/TarheelTournament2007

If you dont see all 250, then keep reloading. They'll finish in about an hour or so.

- Bryan "NC Disc Golf Photographer" Knight

Nice win Head! Come on out to CO and shoot some high elevation golf :)

Hopefully I never see another ghost card, don't know where this idea came from but it sucks. Can't believe how long everything took today. But the course was killer. Kicked my arse. Gotta figure out how to putt and throw uphill and I'll be alright.

Sorry Donnie, I can't ride the boat with ya on the Ghost hole. It gets more an opportunity to play. I'm for that. I only wish players could be on time. Player check in , means check in. Players meeting means a meeting for players. A TD has 2 options, 1. after check in time, scratch off those that haven't checked in, and fill with standbys. Or search for players to assure they are present. Once that is accomplished and determined, begin players meeting. Players meeting are informative, to discuss issues that may arrise. Searches for players not checked in, this would be brief, search for players on waiting list, I don't think so. You're either here (at the players check in/meeting), or your not. I would not punish players whom have pre-registered (by being on time, and registering ahead), or are present. Ghost cards allow more players, and I'm for that, in a timely manner.

This was a great tnmt, great course, congrats to the winners, and a special congrat to the Cupcake for stepping up a division to compete at a higher level. Thanks to the Tar Heel crew for all the hard work. A course that kicked my big butt.See ya next year, or Azelia, or Sanford Slingers Spring Sling.

Mini and Cupcake Thumber

Im all for more players as well rock... add more holes. Split the tourney to Pro and Am. There is no reason in the world to purposly create a backup. It sucks enough when it happens naturally, but when you see 20 ppl on a hole waiting to tee off that is a little much. I got home at 10:30 last night. Thats crazy.

Rock,

I'm sorry but I have to disagree with you about ghost cards. You were not on a ghost card all 4 rounds, I was. It slows down the flow of an event and unnecessarily extends the length of the tournament day. We started out every round having to wait on the group in front of us and then had to wait on every single hole.

We finished on hole 5 every round. Because we were a ghost card we were the last group playing every round and the fact that we finished on a hole that during some rounds had a 5 group, 45 minute back up made it even longer for us. On Saturday we did not finish our round until after 7 PM.

Another problem with ghost cards is that it adds additional work when it comes time to totaling scorecards and shuffling the leader board.

I know that Matt worked very hard to get this event running however here are some major glaring errors that should never happen:

Saturday morning players meeting should not be 45 minutes late. Don't tell me to be there at 9:30 AM and expect me to be happy about waiting 45 minutes for the players meeting to start. I don't care what the excuse is. If a player hasn't signed in by 10 minutes BEFORE the players meeting call out their names. If they don't sign in immediately give their FREAKING spots away to the players standing their waiting to get in.

Don�t tell players they will have an hour for lunch (Saturday) and then give them only 40 minutes. There were multiple players (including some in my group) that had less than an hour for lunch on Saturday.

Don't post a start time after lunch of 1:30 PM (Sunday) and then not have the leader board out until 1:35 PM and then bump the start time to 1:45 PM. Most of us need some warm up time before the round starts.

Don't add holes to accommodate more players.

Don't add ghost cards to accommodate more players.

Don�t take 2 � hours to complete the awards ceremony. We finished the final round at 4:30 PM. The awards ceremony didn�t finish until 7 PM Sunday evening.

Kirk

I understand Capt, and listen with much respect from the experienced one. I only was affected by the Ghost (Geist in German by the way) one time. So I don't feel the pain as others. I stay strong, never late. If you ever see the Rock late, get on the phone, because something is wrong. Love and respect bro

Mini and Cupcake thumber

I agree with every thing Kirk posted. Asking for some help might have changed some things. I do however, want to give Matt props for running the event. Thats more done than 90% of the golfers I know! (kirk you are in the 10%) Keep it up Matt take the blows "learn" from your mistakes, grow, and try again next year! I will be there!

i want to thank matt for running another great event i had a blast as always. i have come to expect big things from Matt and the chapel hill crowd and this year was no different good times for sure.

I want to give a HUGE shout out to Scheefy for putting me up and the best players party around man that was good times and i am going to hook you up big time this weekend when you get down that was great, thanks!! See everyone next year!

I really wanted to go to Sheffies after we finished Saturday night. However, when you don't finish your round until after 7 PM it doesn't leave you with a lot of time to drive home, eat, shower, sleep and drink beer before you have to be back and do it all again.

Matt did a great job given the circumstances.

However, those circumstances could have been significantly improved if there had not been added holes and ghost cards.

Here are some suggestions to keep the field to 90 players:

Limit the field to Adv and Pros only and possibly host a large monthly for Intermediates only just before or just after the sanctioned event.

Set aside a predetermined number of spots for Adv and Pros with a very limited number of spots for Intermediate.

Set the limit to 90 and stand firm by that limit.

Pick your best 18 holes and play those all 4 rounds.

Kirk

I didn't have a problem with the added holes at this particular tournament b/c both the added holes were on the original course and lots of people remember and really like those holes (myself included).

However, ghost cards were not needed.

I really liked those holes myself.

However, the combination of the additional holes and the ghost cards made for excessively long rounds.

You could keep 19 &amp; 20 and easily skip holes 16 &amp; 17 and still play the 18 best holes out there.

Kirk

I agree with ya on this one Kirk, especially since I went 4 4 2 6 on 17 this weekend :cool:

I agree with ya on this one Kirk, especially since I went 4 4 2 6 on 17 this weekend :cool:




I agree as well. Went 3 3 3 4 on 16 and 3 5 4 2 on 17. I think BS is probably the only one to say he birdied 17 every single round. Congrats. I was happy to get hole 20 every round. I think Smalls got hole 5 twice. Anyone else get hole 5 more than twice?

i like 17. throw 200 ft straight, and either go for the puTT or layup safe to the left side. if you try to do too much off the tee, or dont make your puTT, you are penalized.

btw i think i scored the same as eddie on it for the weekend.

I appreciate all the feedback and suggestions. Things could definitely have gone more smoothly, but I had a great time regardless, and I hope everyone else did.

My biggest lessons of the weekend (and for any other aspiring, young TD's) :

1. NEVER use ghost cards!:mad:
2. Pick a reasonable schedule and stick to it no matter what. :(
3. Learn to efficiently allocate tasks to others who are ready and willing to help.:confused:

Thanks to everyone who came this weekend and everyone who had a hand in making this tournament happen!!! :D

TThanks HAL

THANKS MATT!!!

Is there an echo in here?

Limit the field to Advance and Pros only, ? :mad:
Mini Thumber :(

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Sweet pictures Bryan. Thanks for doing that.

The following conditions should exist before using ghost cards:

those would be ghost conditions apparently... :p

Just thought we'd have some humor there. :) Actually, Dave Gentry and I have talked about where ghost cards are appropriate and this is our conclusion. First, the course should have several legit par 4s and/or 5s on it such that it can handle more than 18 groups anyway. Second, the ghost group should go on an easy par 3 that's right after a tough par 4 or 5. Essentially, you don't want the ghost group to have to wait too long before throwing. And, you don't want the group behind them to be able to finish the hole they are on before the ghost group tees off.

I'm actually trying to do this in my recent course designs where I have an easy 3 after a par 5 in the flow, specifically to allow this option for events. We've got two places this can be done on the Steady Ed course at the IDGC (13 &amp; 14 or 15 &amp; 16). All five courses at Highbridge have this setup in case it's needed.

pic # 160 looks a little suspicious

Same with pic# 52...ol' Jumpin' Juff...what correlation does the disc's distance from the hand have with the foot's distance from the ground. I think the Bobalert just went into dark yellow witnessing that forensic evidence.

it does look suspect, but there is a shadow underneath his left foot, indicating the foot is in the air.

also you'll notice the camera wasn't shaking until that big foot stomped to the ground

That Jason, is my version of a jump putt. Completly valid by a course official. It is timing to have the disc released prior to any portion of the body touching the ground. With you being a course official, I thought you knew that. You're a funny guy. You should see my Thumber jump putt. That my friend would be criticized.On a positive, look how smooth the motion is, might have to go pro with stuff like that.

Mini Thumber

On a positive, look how smooth the motion is, might have to go pro with stuff like that.

Mini Thumber



Fully

I just wanted to say thanks to everyone who helped make this tourney happen! I had a blast, love the course and everyone that I got to play with were great! Good competition, good attitudes and good fun! It was a terrific weekend of disc golf!

On a side note......Hey Rocky, does it make me an official bagger if my first ever rating is a 905? /msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif ;) :D

Thanks to everyone who has helped me come a long way in the past 10 months! Too many to name....but you know who you are. Thanks!

Just thought we'd have some humor there. :) Actually, Dave Gentry and I have talked about where ghost cards are appropriate and this is our conclusion. First, the course should have several legit par 4s and/or 5s on it such that it can handle more than 18 groups anyway. Second, the ghost group should go on an easy par 3 that's right after a tough par 4 or 5. Essentially, you don't want the ghost group to have to wait too long before throwing. And, you don't want the group behind them to be able to finish the hole they are on before the ghost group tees off.

I'm actually trying to do this in my recent course designs where I have an easy 3 after a par 5 in the flow, specifically to allow this option for events. We've got two places this can be done on the Steady Ed course at the IDGC (13 &amp; 14 or 15 &amp; 16). All five courses at Highbridge have this setup in case it's needed.



Alternating long holes with shorter holes follows logistically from ball golf. It's rare to see two par five holes in a row in ball golf.

I love pro par four and par five holes in disc golf, but not when they are all strung together, if it can be helped. Changing hole#9 to a deuceable par 3 at the Little Lehigh Parkway course for Pro Worlds 2005 broke up a murderer's row of four pro par four holes in a row and was a welcomed change. For the recreational layout, hole#8 was broken into two shorter holes and hole#9 was again extended to the long position which still makes for a brutal stretch of holes 9-11, especially since hole#11 is severely uphill.

So K.Jackson won the dogwood &amp; the buckhorn?
who was the last to do that- jj??
who else bagged it up that big in ralieghwood? mtl- stats?
is mr jackson going to worlds?

never mind he did not play buckhorn did he!
winning the heel &amp; the wood is not bad
did adv play the same tees as the pros?

yes we all played the same tees, Kyle has been playing well, he's not sure if he is gonna go to worlds or not.

Tottally, You are an efficial bagger. Good job this weekend. An efficial Bagger is one whom has a periodic shot that qualfies himself/herself to the next higher position. It is only temporary though. If it continues and have enough of them, then you move up, Untill that happens, have fun.

Mini Thumber

Kyle, needs to represent NC at worlds. We need our best to go and bring it back.

Mini Thumber

Kyle has been playing great golf lately.

He is a very solid and talented golfer. If he continues play like this, he will be ready for open very soon.

Same with pic# 52...ol' Jumpin' Juff...what correlation does the disc's distance from the hand have with the foot's distance from the ground. I think the Bobalert just went into dark yellow witnessing that forensic evidence.

yoo calls this a foot fault everytime. seeing that the disc is 2-3 feet out of my hand and im a total of maybe 2 inches off the ground, even if it is a foot fault (which i dont think it is) i think it is an impossible call to make accurately.

TThanks for the pic, if only you could have snapped it a splt second earlier

I agree, want him to stay amature untill the Crown has returned from am worlds to Carolina.

Mini Thumber

Hey Snapp, someday I'll be a 905 player, hopefully they the powers to be allow Intermediates to continue to play in tournaments and learn.

Mini Thumber

Yeah, I've only been a member since Feb and only two tourneys were used in figuring my rating, so I'm taking it with a grain of salt. If I'm not careful, "The Payne" could humble me real quick!

Many thanks to Matt Smith and everyone who put all the effort in for this excellent tournamnet.

It's a minor issue, but though I am down for a 65, I shot a 64 in round one and David Jr. shot a 65. I think there was just some name confusion when the data was entered. If someone could forward this to the "scorekeeper" I'd appreciate it.

Look dad, just admit he beat you.....:D

Hey Matt, Great course dude, fn awesome!! Contigent from VA would like to thank you for running tourney, and big Rruuff!! to Jen on her win, and her and Billy for putting up with us va boyz all weekend!! Thanks you guys, had a great time. See you on the 28th /29th at ss acres. Hey Kyle, MOVE UP!! :D P.S. robert, He IS ready to play open, now.

Thanks Matt and crew for a fun weekend! I got to play on 4 great cards. The course was great even if it was at Carolina. Matt, you stepped up and ran the event and some things,that have been mentioned enough,didn't go as you probably would have liked. I know you gained valualbe experience from it, you live and you learn. As a young TD, it helped me as well. Most of the people out there have no clue how hard you worked to get things together for this tournament. I appreciate you buddy and respect you for all of the hard work that went into the tournament. See you in Kinston.

Did anyone birdie hole # 3 every round?

Many thanks to Matt Smith and everyone who put all the effort in for this excellent tournamnet.

It's a minor issue, but though I am down for a 65, I shot a 64 in round one and David Jr. shot a 65. I think there was just some name confusion when the data was entered. If someone could forward this to the "scorekeeper" I'd appreciate it.



Thanks, it will be corrected shortly!

Did anyone birdie hole # 3 every round?



I don't know if anyone got it every round but I was happy to get it 3 out of the 4 rounds with a tap in circle 4 in the first round when it was the first hole of the tournament for me :)

hey Logan, I DID birdie this hole 4 times this weekend. Flick it baby!! I was curoius how folks did on this one. Every time we played it it was not many that did land inbounds. I witnessed a Triple circle 8 on this . Ouch!! :eek: Had mad fun. :D North Cackalacka Disc golf rules!! Rruuff!!

I went 4 4 2 2 on it.

I got 1, 7, 9, and 18 three times and 8 every round.

I finally got one to stay in bounds, rolled 4ft from basket. Was so excited, missed putt. SShhhhhiiiishhhhhh.

Mini Thumber

I finally got one to stay in bounds, rolled 4ft from basket. Was so excited, missed putt. SShhhhhiiiishhhhhh.

Mini Thumber



My first one was in bounds but left a long putt. being the first round I just wanted to get my par and move on. Up shot slid up to the basket, hit that little tuft of grass under the basket, flipped on edge and prodeeded to roll into the creek! Go figure. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Just thought we'd have some humor there. :) Actually, Dave Gentry and I have talked about where ghost cards are appropriate and this is our conclusion. First, the course should have several legit par 4s and/or 5s on it such that it can handle more than 18 groups anyway. Second, the ghost group should go on an easy par 3 that's right after a tough par 4 or 5. Essentially, you don't want the ghost group to have to wait too long before throwing. And, you don't want the group behind them to be able to finish the hole they are on before the ghost group tees off.

I'm actually trying to do this in my recent course designs where I have an easy 3 after a par 5 in the flow, specifically to allow this option for events. We've got two places this can be done on the Steady Ed course at the IDGC (13 &amp; 14 or 15 &amp; 16). All five courses at Highbridge have this setup in case it's needed.



This was basically the logic I used for the placement of our 2 ghost cards. Both followed the two longest holes on the course (both par 4). In addition, there is ~400 ft walk to #6 tee from the #5 basket.

I think our biggest problems were:
1. already had 20 holes
2. 83 amateurs, including 36 intermediates, all playing one of our most difficult layouts
3. cold, windy, gusting, unpredictable conditions

Speaking of conditions, there has been a consensus agreement among players and myself that the ratings for this years tourney were low. Is there any adjustment to be made for the conditions? The course played a good 5 strokes more difficult this year, probably 1-1.5 strokes more due to the course being lengthened and added difficulty ,3.5-4 strokes added due to the conditions.(Compared to 2006)

Low Ratings, I agree. Windy, understatment, Intermediates had not contribution to the problem.

Mini Thumber

The ratings automatically take weather into account because actual scores are used to make the calcs. If players are shooting 5 shots worse on average, the course SSA will be calculated roughly 5 shots higher for that round. If the exact same course layout is played in more than one round, and one round has particularly windier conditions, we suggest naming that as a separate layout in the course layout area of the TD report. Otherwise, more than one round on the same layout may get combined with our new process. For example, "Course A" is played in R1 and "Course A - windy" is played in R2.

Low Ratings, I agree. Windy, understatment, Intermediates had not contribution to the problem.

Mini Thumber



Sorry Rock,
I wasn't trying to blame anyone, just saying that a tourney at a difficult course, overcrowded with less experienced competitors, playing in difficult conditions is perfect recipe for excessively long rounds. If anyone is to blame, it is me for adding ghost cards.

Did anyone birdie hole # 3 every round?



I got it 3 out of 4 rounds.

The course played a good 5 strokes more difficult this year, probably 1-1.5 strokes more due to the course being lengthened and added difficulty ,3.5-4 strokes added due to the conditions.(Compared to 2006)



I respectfully disagree with this.

Changes from last year....
3 - Green much bigger and drop zone closer to basket (easier)
4 - No ob in fairway - went from a layup hole to a hole everyone went for (MUCH easier)
5 - Lengthened (tougher)
7 - Lots of trees cut from fairwawy (easier)
8 - no drop from casual water meant people in the water sometimes had shorter putts for 2 (easier)
10 - basket in shorts (easier)
20 - shortened (easier)

While the conditions were hands down tough, the course was probably a good stroke to two stokes easier than last year. However, the condititions made it a little tougher.