i say kan climo

what is the question?

It could be Kenny vs. Barry in checkers or maybe marbles. I hear Kenny is good at Monopoly and Barry dominates people at scrabble.

what is the question?



It's a cleverly crafted Who Would You Do?

ok ken climo (http://www.nndb.com/people/225/000022159/vigoda.jpg) barry schultz (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d9/Scorsese-MainPage.jpg)

ok ken climo (http://www.nndb.com/people/225/000022159/vigoda.jpg) barry schultz (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d9/Scorsese-MainPage.jpg)



Abe Vigoda or Martin Scorsese. Those are your choices. Think fast.

Two men enter...one man leaves!

Two men enter...one man leaves!



Hweck that one is easier than who is the best DGer. :DKenny is a beast.

Is this sorta like a Fight Club?

We can't talk about it.

We can't talk about it.


WHY NOT

We can't talk about it.


WHY NOT




The 1st rule of fight club is......oh let's just beat him down. :D

We can't talk about it.


WHY NOT




The 1st rule of fight club is......oh let's just beat him down. :D



This might bring cause some unwanted assault charges ;)

His name was Jacob Loper! His name was Jacob Loper!

His name was Jacob Loper! His name was Jacob Loper!



:D:D:DROTFLMAO :D:D:D

Thank you, Jeff. At least one person got it, I guess.

I got iTT, but actually di not respond to iTT.......though it was quite humorous

It's only after we've triple bogeyed every hole that we're free to play disc golf.

The discs you throw end up throwing you.

I am Barry Schultz's colon.

I have filmed and played with Barry and Ken and the winner would be........................................
.......................
.................................................. ......................
.................................................. ..............................
.................................................. ..............................
.................................................. ............
.................whichever one of them is in the zone that day. If they are both in the zone you will get a 10 hole play-off.......

Kenny's got ears of experience on Barry...gotta go with the champ.

Kenny's got ears of experience on Barry...gotta go with the champ.


LOL

They probably give him a better idea of exactly how the wind is blowing and what disc to throw.


Just kidding...I love ya' Champ! ;) :D


sleepy

http://weblog.gameguru.ru/img/02035.jpg

Which one's (Mr.) Pink?

Steve Buscemi...on the floor

http://weblog.gameguru.ru/img/02035.jpg

Which one's (Mr.) Pink?

]
uhhh.......top 1?

Nope, on the Floor Yacob

boy nedds to get out, come on bud you need to go rent
reservoir dogs, great movie

One of Quentin's best.

He's no pirate.

It's rated ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!

I dont think lil loper could see it even if it was pg-13. What is he like 12?

What's the poll?

Which one shows up to awards, when they don't win?

What's the poll?

Which one shows up to awards, when they don't win?



Extenuating circumstances aside, I can't believe Innova hasn't stepped in to address this breach of courtesy.

Aside from this, both men are exceptional athletes and sportsmen.

As to the original question, flip a coin! ;)

What's the poll?

Which one shows up to awards, when they don't win?



Extenuating circumstances aside, I can't believe Innova hasn't stepped in to address this breach of courtesy.

Aside from this, both men are exceptional athletes and sportsmen.

As to the original question, flip a coin! ;)


1 problem there are 3 lopers that disc and a coin only has 2 sides hows that work?

On any given day, it's a coin toss for these two. But if you look back over the years, you have to give it to Climo.

do any world champions come on this fourm?

peter shive, dean tannock post some.

Every now and then Juillana will post.

Kenny use to post some too.

peter shive, dean tannock post some.

Every now and then Juillana will post.

Kenny use to post some too.


WHATS KENNYS USERNAME?
AND WHATS JUILLANAS USERNAME?

Kenny posted as zzeezz
Juliana posts as Juliana

Kenny posted as zzeezz
Juliana posts as Juliana


I WANT 2 ADD THEM 2 MY FAVS CAN YOU GET ME A LINK WHERE THEY POSTED?

just find them in the user list.

just find them in the user list.


OK THANKS

AND GUESS WHOS BIRTHDAY IT IS....ME!

you know Kenny likes the ZZ...Wierd...he had it on the message board before we did.

you know Kenny likes the ZZ...Wierd...he had it on the message board before we did.




TThere's nothing new under the Sun, SON!
~Ecclesiastes 1:9

will ken climo when he is 49 will he be pro master or stay in oven division?

KC will be an Open Pro for quite a while.

KC will be an Open Pro for quite a while.


you think barry schultz will be open 4awhile?

defintely

will Brian Schweberger play open 4awihle?

Yea why would he play Master's and win $400 or $500 at an A Tier when he can keep on winning $1000-$1500. :cool:

Yea why would he play Master's and win $400 or $500 at an A Tier when he can keep on winning $1000-$1500. :cool:


1 question 4 schweb does he like money$$$$$$$$

...and what year will you be master eligible, schweb? /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

will Brian Schweberger play open 4awihle?

Oh yeah

Yea why would he play Master's and win $400 or $500 at an A Tier when he can keep on winning $1000-$1500. :cool:


1 question 4 schweb does he like money$$$$$$$$

Money is just a bonus from playing golf.

...and what year will you be master eligible, schweb? /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

2013 unless the Master's Age goes up...I hope.

...and what year will you be master eligible, schweb? /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

2013 unless the Master's Age goes up...I hope.



1 question for you Mr.Schweberger

who is your top competitor?

...and what year will you be master eligible, schweb? /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

2013 unless the Master's Age goes up...I hope.



1 question for you Mr.Schweberger

who is your top competitor?



Himself. Duh

...and what year will you be master eligible, schweb? /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

2013 unless the Master's Age goes up...I hope.



1 question for you Mr.Schweberger

who is your top competitor?



Himself. Duh




other than himself or the course?

...and what year will you be master eligible, schweb? /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

2013 unless the Master's Age goes up...I hope.



1 question for you Mr.Schweberger

who is your top competitor?

Kenny and Barry because if I am beating them I am doing very well.

what does Mr.schweb have 4 breakfast be4 a tournament??

TTrim....

what does Mr.schweb have 4 breakfast be4 a tournament?? TTrim.....

Could be, but fo ReaL....not very much. Normally I do not eat very much in the morning, if I do, it is ususally a biscuit from Hardees.

do you excersize @ home???or excerzize @ all?

My exercise is playing and working and the occasional speed golf round.

ok................

so what discs do you throw and what discs do you recomend for a new player????

www.innovadiscs.com/team/brians.html (http://www.innovadiscs.com/team/brians.html)

Leopard, Shark, and Aviar for all beginners

i might make a post called

ken climo vs. barry schultz vs.brian schweb....

think its a good idea??

No that is not a good idea. Don't do it!

Please step away from the computer and go out and throw some discs. If you can't get to a course, go down to the park or your school. That will be much better for your game than posting here.

Brian,
I just want to commend you on your patience with young players. it is a testament to your greaTTness.


Suzette, do it. You will be glad you did.

:D

Message board users should realize that Jacon Loper is 11 years old and very enthusiastic about disc golf, and the top players in our sport. Please be as patient with him as you would your own children or family members of young age. He is just learning the ropes of disc golf, this message board, and the internet, and your patience is appreciated. :cool:

Message board users should realize that Jacon Loper is 11 years old and very enthusiastic about disc golf, and the top players in our sport. Please be as patient with him as you would your own children or family members of young age. He is just learning the ropes of disc golf, this message board, and the internet, and your patience is appreciated. :cool:



We need more Jacob Lopers. I'd rather read his raw enthusiam than the hyper criticisms that are the normal fare here.

The reason most Pros don't come here Jacob is that while some important things can occur here, for this most part this is entertainment. As discette pointed out, for those players, their time is best spent practicing. However, for an up and coming player this is a great resource for learning.

BTW - From what I've seen at tournaments, I think you're better off not knowing what most disc golfers eat for breakfast!

Oh yeah, Ken Climo! As was pointed out, on any given day, which ever player is on is the answer to your question. From there you have to go to history. Ken wins there for the moment and, in the end, Ken will probably have better numbers than Barry, primarily because Ken didn't have to play against a mature Barry for his entire career. Barry also has the added disadvantage that the competition is getting stiffer, exponentially.

The two Pros to pay attention to here are Yeti and Yeti (Des doesn't really post). Yeti and his wife Des are leaders in our sport in terms of education and giving back. They care passionately and contribute diligently.

For sheer entertainment and caring about the average Joe, that's Brian. For trying to grow the Pro aspect in this venue, that's Kevin, who also rates highly in his desire to do the right thing. All these people contribute here, are easily identified and are good for a perspective on what the Pros are thinking.

If you want perspective on the PDGA, Pat is good but remember he is a reformer and sometimes critical, Chuck is the counter voice along with Terry Calhoun.

Jacob,

I would say EVERY top pro reads this message board. I know I have had Barry Schultz, Avery Jenkins, Ken Climo and Dave Feldberg come up to me at different times and reference something I posted on the board.

As far as players who would be good to ask questions too, try Dave Avery and Schwebbys Zonedriven Blog.

Message board users should realize that Jacon Loper is 11 years old and very enthusiastic about disc golf, and the top players in our sport. Please be as patient with him as you would your own children or family members of young age. He is just learning the ropes of disc golf, this message board, and the internet, and your patience is appreciated. :cool:



Here here Jeff, well said.

Message board users should realize that Jacon Loper is 11 years old and very enthusiastic about disc golf, and the top players in our sport. Please be as patient with him as you would your own children or family members of young age. He is just learning the ropes of disc golf, this message board, and the internet, and your patience is appreciated. :cool:


It might be a good idea for Mr. Loper to put the above text in his signature...sort of like the legal disclaimer found after many corporate emails! :D


sleepy

Message board users should realize that Jacob Loper is 11 years old and very enthusiastic about disc golf, and the top players in our sport. Please be as patient with him as you would your own children or family members of young age. He is just learning the ropes of disc golf, this message board, and the internet, and your patience is appreciated. :cool:



I really don't have a problem with questions about discs and playing better, but that is a minor amount of his posting activity. Perhaps someone at his home could ask him to limit his message board posts and PM's to only 5 or 10 per day or something like that. This way, he may have to think twice before starting new threads and such.

Spring break should be over soon. :p

Jacob's threads are no more self serving than say Matt Hall's, MTL's or Hawk's. He at least has the excuse of being young. I do admit, after a quick perusal of this topic that most of them are... trite in nature. He's also been here long enough to be learning some MB ettiquete, that is, one should get recognition and acceptance from one's family, not from a MB. Coming to the Web for acceptance and recognition can be a dangerous thing.

Jacob's threads are no more self serving than say Matt Hall's, MTL's or Hawk's.

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Message board users should realize that Jacon Loper is 11 years old and very enthusiastic about disc golf, and the top players in our sport. Please be as patient with him as you would your own children or family members of young age. He is just learning the ropes of disc golf, this message board, and the internet, and your patience is appreciated. :cool:



We need more Jacob Lopers. I'd rather read his raw enthusiam than the hyper criticisms that are the normal fare here.

The reason most Pros don't come here Jacob is that while some important things can occur here, for this most part this is entertainment. As discette pointed out, for those players, their time is best spent practicing. However, for an up and coming player this is a great resource for learning.

BTW - From what I've seen at tournaments, I think you're better off not knowing what most disc golfers eat for breakfast!

Oh yeah, Ken Climo! As was pointed out, on any given day, which ever player is on is the answer to your question. From there you have to go to history. Ken wins there for the moment and, in the end, Ken will probably have better numbers than Barry, primarily because Ken didn't have to play against a mature Barry for his entire career. Barry also has the added disadvantage that the competition is getting stiffer, exponentially.

The two Pros to pay attention to here are Yeti and Yeti (Des doesn't really post). Yeti and his wife Des are leaders in our sport in terms of education and giving back. They care passionately and contribute diligently.

For sheer entertainment and caring about the average Joe, that's Brian. For trying to grow the Pro aspect in this venue, that's Kevin, who also rates highly in his desire to do the right thing. All these people contribute here, are easily identified and are good for a perspective on what the Pros are thinking.

If you want perspective on the PDGA, Pat is good but remember he is a reformer and sometimes critical, Chuck is the counter voice along with Terry Calhoun.

Appreciate the kind words.

Schweb, you truly are the people's player. I have never met a more giving individual on the disc golf course. We need more golfers and people like you.

Jacob, good luck with your game and don't ever stop asking questions of how to get better.

And Lyle, why do you have to go and try and analyze a child's home life based on some disc golf posts? He is not hurting anyone and he is learning. I mean there are worse things that a young kid could be doing with his time, like plotting to commit crimes.

Message board users should realize that Jacon Loper is 11 years old and very enthusiastic about disc golf, and the top players in our sport. Please be as patient with him as you would your own children or family members of young age. He is just learning the ropes of disc golf, this message board, and the internet, and your patience is appreciated. :cool:



Ok I take back all the poop( :D) I've said about Loper because I thought he was like 15.

Message board users should realize that Jacon Loper is 11 years old and very enthusiastic about disc golf, and the top players in our sport. Please be as patient with him as you would your own children or family members of young age. He is just learning the ropes of disc golf, this message board, and the internet, and your patience is appreciated. :cool:



We need more Jacob Lopers. I'd rather read his raw enthusiam than the hyper criticisms that are the normal fare here.

The reason most Pros don't come here Jacob is that while some important things can occur here, for this most part this is entertainment. As discette pointed out, for those players, their time is best spent practicing. However, for an up and coming player this is a great resource for learning.

BTW - From what I've seen at tournaments, I think you're better off not knowing what most disc golfers eat for breakfast!

Oh yeah, Ken Climo! As was pointed out, on any given day, which ever player is on is the answer to your question. From there you have to go to history. Ken wins there for the moment and, in the end, Ken will probably have better numbers than Barry, primarily because Ken didn't have to play against a mature Barry for his entire career. Barry also has the added disadvantage that the competition is getting stiffer, exponentially.

The two Pros to pay attention to here are Yeti and Yeti (Des doesn't really post). Yeti and his wife Des are leaders in our sport in terms of education and giving back. They care passionately and contribute diligently.

For sheer entertainment and caring about the average Joe, that's Brian. For trying to grow the Pro aspect in this venue, that's Kevin, who also rates highly in his desire to do the right thing. All these people contribute here, are easily identified and are good for a perspective on what the Pros are thinking.

If you want perspective on the PDGA, Pat is good but remember he is a reformer and sometimes critical, Chuck is the counter voice along with Terry Calhoun.



Hey Lyle, Barry has been playing Open for a while. I think his name is on the 1993 Worlds video as a cashing player. So Kenny has been playing with Barry for a long time but didn't worry about him the first few years. :D

Jacob's threads are no more self serving than say Matt Hall's, MTL's or Hawk's.

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Agreed! I think I have started like 5-6 threads EVER!!!!!!

how many years has ken climo been playing disc golf

and how long has barry schultz been playing disc golf ?

how many years has ken climo been playing disc golf

and how long has barry schultz been playing disc golf ?



Climo since like around 86' and Barry Since around 90'.

Yeah Kenny since '86, but Barry has been playing since '82

hey schweb new username i see......


how long has Mr.schweb been playing??

Yeah Kenny since '86, but Barry has been playing since '82



Yeah now that you say it I think I have heard that he was playing when he was like really young.

I hope he doesnt get his posting limited. Here is a young kid who is into a sport and is able to express it, and at the same time have contact with some excellent players. When I was his age I sure as heck didnt have the kind of contact with the pro athletes in the sports that I liked that he does.
If you are bothered enough by someones posts on a message board that you need to post about it, I suggest that you may be the one who needs to limit yourself to it.

Jacob, post on young brother.

I think it is great that Jacob has access to this resource to ask questions, but I'll play the part of the mom here and say:



<font color="green">Jacob, please use some message board restraint and limit your posts to existing threads whenever possible.


Thank-you </font>





Spring Break will be over soon.

hey schweb new username i see......


how long has Mr.schweb been playing??

February was 10 years

<font color="red"> "Jacob, post on young brother." </font>

Being someone who personaly knows the Loper family, i say he can post on and on.
We all made fun of him at the last Am Worlds meeting for his posts, but it was all in good fun.(Him and his father particapte in the meetings each time we have them)

On a side note, i used to be that "11 year old kid asking questions" I started playing at the same age he did. i had the honor of growing up playing with Barry S, and he was very understanding of my questions at that age. We did not have the internet to do so,
So, Post on Little Loper, POST ON!

<font color="red"> "Jacob, post on young brother." </font>




will do....

thanks every one:) :) :D:D

Just please change your avatar, I'm trying to eat breakfast :D

Just please change your avatar, I'm trying to eat breakfast :D



2nd!!!!!

no i love my avatar

Schweb, you truly are the people's player. I have never met a more giving individual on the disc golf course. We need more golfers and people like you.

Jacob, good luck with your game and don't ever stop asking questions of how to get better.

And Lyle, why do you have to go and try and analyze a child's home life based on some disc golf posts? He is not hurting anyone and he is learning. I mean there are worse things that a young kid could be doing with his time, like plotting to commit crimes.



I didn't analyze his home life. I simply said that he should look for afirmation from home not here. If you look at his threads you'll see he is looking for recognition on this site. If you read up on the issue of children, and Jacob is a child, and web predators, they look for children who come to the web looking for approval and they give it to them.

As a father, I'm quite aware of such issues and concerned about them. Do you think we should not be?

we are off topic lets set up chat room hours.....

i will be thair at 3 oclock..

Message board users should realize that Jacon Loper is 11 years old and very enthusiastic about disc golf, and the top players in our sport. Please be as patient with him as you would your own children or family members of young age. He is just learning the ropes of disc golf, this message board, and the internet, and your patience is appreciated. :cool:



We need more Jacob Lopers. I'd rather read his raw enthusiam than the hyper criticisms that are the normal fare here.

The reason most Pros don't come here Jacob is that while some important things can occur here, for this most part this is entertainment. As discette pointed out, for those players, their time is best spent practicing. However, for an up and coming player this is a great resource for learning.

BTW - From what I've seen at tournaments, I think you're better off not knowing what most disc golfers eat for breakfast!

Oh yeah, Ken Climo! As was pointed out, on any given day, which ever player is on is the answer to your question. From there you have to go to history. Ken wins there for the moment and, in the end, Ken will probably have better numbers than Barry, primarily because Ken didn't have to play against a mature Barry for his entire career. Barry also has the added disadvantage that the competition is getting stiffer, exponentially.

The two Pros to pay attention to here are Yeti and Yeti (Des doesn't really post). Yeti and his wife Des are leaders in our sport in terms of education and giving back. They care passionately and contribute diligently.

For sheer entertainment and caring about the average Joe, that's Brian. For trying to grow the Pro aspect in this venue, that's Kevin, who also rates highly in his desire to do the right thing. All these people contribute here, are easily identified and are good for a perspective on what the Pros are thinking.

If you want perspective on the PDGA, Pat is good but remember he is a reformer and sometimes critical, Chuck is the counter voice along with Terry Calhoun.



Hey Lyle, Barry has been playing Open for a while. I think his name is on the 1993 Worlds video as a cashing player. So Kenny has been playing with Barry for a long time but didn't worry about him the first few years. :D



I see your point, perhaps it would have been clearer to say that Ken came into his full maturaty as a Pro much earlier than Barry did, so he had an extended period, when Barry was a Pro, but not fully developed, when he won several Worlds.

we are off topic lets set up chat room hours.....

i will be thair at 3 oclock..



Jacob,

while I do appreciate your enthusiasm, I don't chat online. I chat with local players on the course usually about the local sport and competition. I might suggest that if you want to chat about web issues, the use of the computer, how much time young posters spend online, and the family and social issues it causes, that you chat with your parents.

i chat with my dad whos name is don loper about disc golf but he only will talk about disc golf when we are on the course....

so i like to talk to people on here

To all that are encouraging our young friend to use this message board as his playground: Do you think it is appropriate for him to read and/or post on any of the threads about 420 or 804.05 violations? If not, then you should lead by example and never post anything about that subject on this message board again, lest he might read it.

Perhaps someone should provide a link to the Ask Hawk Threads? Maybe he would enjoy a good back and forth with Furdog and Twoputt on the Tulsa forum?

To all that are encouraging our young friend to use this message board as his playground: Do you think it is appropriate for him to read and/or post on any of the threads about 420 or 804.05 violations? If not, then you should lead by example and never post anything about that subject on this message board again, lest he might read it.




lest he might see it on a disc golf course either (but we all know none of that really happens out there... or that much anyway). let's just get him a dandy pair of rose shaded glasses. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

i do not reply in the rules catogory...

i know some rules but when i know there are world champions on here who know the rules better i let them...

There are more wasteful posts on this thread ABOUT Jacob than there are posts FROM Jacob. Jacob....YOU DA MAN! Anyone who can generate so much discussion among discgolfers deserves some kudos!

Oh, and I for one agree that there is nothing wrong with Jacob's involvement on these boards. I am sure that he is not surprised by any of the discussions regarding certain rule violations or at serious risk from rouge disc golf predators (two of my favorite discs). Finally, if his posts bothered me so significantly, I would simply skip reading any of his messages. However, I enjoy reading his innocent questions and comments and occasionally find the responses quite enlightening. And my life is no so important that the 2-3 minutes a day that I spend reading Jacob's posts will reduce the pleasure of my existance.

Jacob, as I've informed you in the past, drop some of the personal info on your profile. It's not necessary, and is info that can be used against you unknowingly. In this day and age we should protect our personal information from an early age.

Matt

Jacob, as I've informed you in the past, drop some of the personal info on your profile. It's not necessary, and is info that can be used against you unknowingly. In this day and age we should protect our personal information from an early age.

Matt



On that note, one thing parents might want to know and consider is a new feature of the message board where a user can be designated as an 'underage member.' It's an option built into the UBB.threads� 6.5.5 message board software and the age can be defined by whatever organization is using the UBB.threads� software.

Underage members cannot send or receive Private Messages. One other thing I saw was that when 'underage member' is selected, the information in the profile (Homepage, Occupation, Hobbies, Location, Bio, etc.) is not displayed.

By not displaying this information and by not allowing private messaging, I think this is a mechanism to protect young message board users against internet predators.

what about internet firebirds?

bah dump chhh


(in bad taste, I know)

*** You are ignoring this user ***




I feel all better now. I don't know why I didn't do it sooner!!!

now there's some Moderator ingenuity.

Sounds like a good plan, Bigs.

now there's some Moderator ingenuity.

Sounds like a good plan, Bigs.



I agree, and I have to say that I agree with Discette. I've seen enough here and on the Web per sey to feel that there should be limitations to minor privledges placed here. I like Mr. Loper having access to equipment and technique threads, but most assuredly not to other areas.

BTW - I'm betting that the gung-ho Go Mr. Loper posters a) don't have children, or b) are very uninformed about Web predation.

BTW - I'm betting that the gung-ho Go Mr. Loper posters a) don't have children, or b) are very uninformed about Web predation.


Wow, you missed on both points. In my case I have two children, both Internet users with proper oversight. Secondly, I work with youth in a field where we have to deal with potential predatory behavior from both adults and other youth. So, I have personal and professional experience in this area.

However, I don't really think the primary concern with Mr. Loper's posting is the risk of attracting predators. Most of the criticism seems to be that his postings are repeatative, juvenile or lacking substance. Well, those complaints seem to fit a tremendous number of postings I see on these boards. Hell, some of my own postings deserve the same criticism.

I just happen to believe that a member who has paid his PDGA dues and follows the message board rules should be allows to post here. You, of course, are equally welcome to criticize his postings...Instead of helping him understand how to make more relevant postings.

Hey, just another opinion. Take it or leave it, but don't make assumptions about my level of understanding regarding Internet predatory behavior or experience as a parent.

However, I don't really think the primary concern with Mr. Loper's posting is the risk of attracting predators. Most of the criticism seems to be that his postings are repeatative, juvenile or lacking substance. Well, those complaints seem to fit a tremendous number of postings I see on these boards. Hell, some of my own postings deserve the same criticism.

jacob loper doesnt really exist, hes just bait on the show How To Catch a Predator

HAhahahaha. thats funny

jacob loper doesnt really exist, hes just bait on the show How To Catch a Predator


. . . or Grunion

Loper and I share a birthday. Albeit 12 years apart...

Sorry to get off topic, Buts its still Kenny

It's definitely no longer a two horse race.

Avery was in the top 4 at all of last year's majors, including the win at the Players Cup. Dave is capable of winning any week. Doss, Rico, Orum, Schwebby, Leviska, Brinster, Kallstrom, McCray, McCabe, Barsby, Gurthie and others are all potential future major championship winners.

No one will ever touch Kenny's record and I believe he's still got 5-10 more years of winning big tournaments in the open division. I bet he'd love to take home a nice five-figure paycheck in his home state this year.

I believe the future major championship winners over the next two years will come from Climo, Schultz, Jenkins, Feldberg, Doss, Orum, Schweberger and McCray.

Aaron Wield is now back on the scene taking second to Cale at Standing Rocks last weekend.

I wouldn't leave out Coda...

MC

Mr. "Dad" Loper here.................simply to say "thank you" fellow disc golfer's for having the patience, and I hope some enjoyment with my son Jacob in his posts !

I have to admit, I too have much fun reading Jacobs posts....and no doubt shake my head! Ha.

I also admit I have wonderful laughs at the responses he seems to generate! LOL. (Especially the one word story.....posts!)

This seems to bring much joy to all involved.

This PDGA discussion board has been a "great" influence to my son Jacob. What he has learned from all of you.....my brother and sister's of Disc Golf..........has really fired Jacob up! He is far more educated than I personally could have done in the years to come. He has gleaned from you "valuable" disc golf insights in such a short time of 1 year.....than I have had in the 5 years I have been playing!

This board is a resource for all our family..............and I THANK YOU ALL!

He is a dear son, a clever disc golf player, knowledgeable of disc types and characteristics, and plays well under pressure on the course, and in practice. I know this doesn't happen without such resources as this board and YOU the players helping educate Jacob on EVEN the simple or mundane questions he has asked.

I am grateful to you and PDGA for this outlet, and inlet into this disc golf family!

I envy Jacob, for being able to chat with Schweb, VJenkins, and other Pro's.........at 12 and coming away with a sense that Disc Golf is bigger than us all! That the community of Disc Golfer's really care for the new generation of young kids enthusiastic about EVERY aspect of the game.

I certainly can't keep up with his hunger for disc golf..........all ALONE! LOL. (Besides not being the know it all dad)


Jacob is also maturing much from your advice in these forums, and we should see some improvements in "spelling" (arrrrggghhh) and relevance.

I humbly Thank each and every one of you for adding to our family�s disc golf experience!


D Loper #21847


See you in the winner's circle ! Your friend, and fellow disc golf brother !

From Papa Loper on another thread:


Mr. "Dad" Loper here.................simply to say "thank you" fellow disc golfer's for having the patience, and I hope some enjoyment with my son Jacob in his posts !

I have to admit, I too have much fun reading Jacobs posts....and no doubt shake my head! Ha.

I also admit I have wonderful laughs at the responses he seems to generate! LOL. (Especially the one word story.....posts!)

This seems to bring much joy to all involved.

This PDGA discussion board has been a "great" influence to my son Jacob. What he has learned from all of you.....my brother and sister's of Disc Golf..........has really fired Jacob up! He is far more educated than I personally could have done in the years to come. He has gleaned from you "valuable" disc golf insights in such a short time of 1 year.....than I have had in the 5 years I have been playing!

This board is a resource for all our family..............and I THANK YOU ALL!

He is a dear son, a clever disc golf player, knowledgeable of disc types and characteristics, and plays well under pressure on the course, and in practice. I know this doesn't happen without such resources as this board and YOU the players helping educate Jacob on EVEN the simple or mundane questions he has asked.

I am grateful to you and PDGA for this outlet, and inlet into this disc golf family!

I envy Jacob, for being able to chat with Schweb, VJenkins, and other Pro's.........at 12 and coming away with a sense that Disc Golf is bigger than us all! That the community of Disc Golfer's really care for the new generation of young kids enthusiastic about EVERY aspect of the game.

I certainly can't keep up with his hunger for disc golf..........all ALONE! LOL. (Besides not being the know it all dad)


Jacob is also maturing much from your advice in these forums, and we should see some improvements in "spelling" (arrrrggghhh) and relevance.

I humbly Thank each and every one of you for adding to our family�s disc golf experience!

D Loper #21847

BTW - I'm betting that the gung-ho Go Mr. Loper posters a) don't have children, or b) are very uninformed about Web predation.


Wow, you missed on both points. <font color="red">WOW! I can't believe I missed this reply. I didn't miss either of your points, I simply realized that you didn't take the time to look through all of Mr. Loper's posts. A number of them are about Mr. Loper and are about Mr. Loper looking for approval and recognition in this forum. Since you have some experience with predation on the web tell me, what do predators look for? Do they ever look for kids how are looking for approval? </font>

In my case I have two children, both Internet users with proper oversight. <font color="red"> Before I replied to you I took the time to read your bio. I decided to post the way I did knowing that. I did that because I disagree with your postion. Take a look at my first post on this thread. Initially I supported your postion. The posts I had read by Jacob at that point were no more purile or wasteful than a lot of other stuff that goes here. Then I loaded up all the threads he's posted on and read some of them and concluded that Jacob is looking for attention. Now, when it's an adult on here looking for attention, and we have a number who do that, I don't much care. But when it's an 11 year old kid I do, not because I feel some obligation to Jacob (that's not my place), but because I feel an obligation to the PDGA. </font> Secondly, I work with youth in a field where we have to deal with potential predatory behavior from both adults and other youth. So, I have personal and professional experience in this area.

However, I don't really think the primary concern with Mr. Loper's posting is the risk of attracting predators. Most of the criticism seems to be that his postings are repeatative, juvenile or lacking substance. Well, those complaints seem to fit a tremendous number of postings I see on these boards. Hell, some of my own postings deserve the same criticism.

I just happen to believe that a member who has paid his PDGA dues and follows the message board rules should be allows to post here. You, of course, are equally welcome to criticize his postings...Instead of helping him understand how to make more relevant postings.

Hey, just another opinion. Take it or leave it, but don't make assumptions about my level of understanding regarding Internet predatory behavior or experience as a parent.



<font color="red"> So, in conclusion, I agree with your point, many of Jason's points are no more wasteful than say Morgan's. That is hardly a compliment, but any member has a right to post whatever garbage they want to. However, your notion that this isn't about predation is misplaced, whether you have experience or not. You can prove that to yourself by asking, what do predators look for?

BTW - predation aside, I understand that our culture is much looser than it was, but I find the notion that it is appropriate for an 11 year old to have access to Ask Hawk, and some of the other sexual inuendo that goes on here... strange</font>

Wow !

This is rather concerning!!!! My son, 12 is looking for attention online from fellow disc golfer's, who may or may not be child predators!!

Definition of FEAR:

F - false
E - evidence
A - appearing
R - real

I would like to assure you all is well.

I get the feeling though no matter how we conduct ourselves in my family would not satisfy your sinister, or fear mongering mentality. Rest assured, and remove any doubt in your mind, that here in the Loper household all due diligence towards the care of my children are a constant high priority.

Further explanations how oversight is conducted would do nothing to "un-focus" your attention on a 12 year old, seeking attention in the PDGA monitored site, about disc golf topics!

Most importantly, rather than explain these things to you, I ask you to stop insinuating my son is "prime" for a predator!! I care little how you FEEL or blow your own horn of knowing how such "tactics" are used by predators!

You know nothing about my son, me, or our family. Yet, you don't refrain from offering YOUR baseless accusations about us. If you continue this fear mongering conversation, than you are showing yourself of being more a threat to my family's well being in this site.

This site is entertaining, thoughtful, informative, and raw in some areas. This conversation is way out of line, and if you were so concerned you would have PRIVATELY sent me an email to voice it. But you took the public route, only showing YOU are looking for some type of attention like all "shock" jocks.

You made your point, respectfully, now drop it.

DLoper #21847

I can't believe it has come to this!!! Don is the GREATEST man I will ever know, and if anyone is lucky enough to sit and have a chat with him, all would agree. The Loper boys are smart enough to take care of themselves believe it or NOT!!!

Please understand that Jacob is 12 yrs. old, imagine you at 12, with a disc golf message board, and a LOVE for Disc Golf!!! And if your in Wisconsin for either of the Worlds, Don Loper will be there, so take a minute to talk to him and you'll understand we are LUCKY to have Don and his sons as fellow Disc Golfers!! :cool:

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Will a Loper become a World Champion???

Wow !

This is rather concerning!!!! My son, 12 is looking for attention online from fellow disc golfer's, who may or may not be child predators!!

Definition of FEAR:

F - false
E - evidence
A - appearing
R - real

I would like to assure you all is well.

I get the feeling though no matter how we conduct ourselves in my family would not satisfy your sinister, or fear mongering mentality. Rest assured, and remove any doubt in your mind, that here in the Loper household all due diligence towards the care of my children are a constant high priority.

Further explanations how oversight is conducted would do nothing to "un-focus" your attention on a 12 year old, seeking attention in the PDGA monitored site, about disc golf topics!

Most importantly, rather than explain these things to you, I ask you to stop insinuating my son is "prime" for a predator!! I care little how you FEEL or blow your own horn of knowing how such "tactics" are used by predators!

You know nothing about my son, me, or our family. Yet, you don't refrain from offering YOUR baseless accusations about us. If you continue this fear mongering conversation, than you are showing yourself of being more a threat to my family's well being in this site.

This site is entertaining, thoughtful, informative, and raw in some areas. This conversation is way out of line, and if you were so concerned you would have PRIVATELY sent me an email to voice it. But you took the public route, only showing YOU are looking for some type of attention like all "shock" jocks.

You made your point, respectfully, now drop it.

DLoper #21847



WOW! That was harsh. I apologize.

Lyle:

I appreciate and accept your apology. Please accept mine as well if this was harsh.

I intended it to be "stern" in order to end any doubts, and bring this subject matter to an end.

No harm done my friend!

Our family is excited about this weekends "Greater Milwaukee Open" in reality.......an Am World Warm up!!!

Yeeeehaaaaaaaaa !!

Dlope #21847

I whole heartedly agree with Zac! ALL of the Lopers are CHAMPS in my book. I am fairly new to this sport but have had the pleasure of spending many hours on and off the course with all three Lopers and consider them all friends. I do especially enjoy Jacobs excitement for the game and if my 26 years in the Boy Scouts of America are any gage of his personality and his safety, I know he will do well in life.

Just shocked....But glad this is settled.