I know Biscoe split divisions randomly, but, wow! The beef division is well named, because that's where all the beef is. No offense to those in the aptly-named Dairy division.

Beef:
Seneca - 2004 VTI champs, 2005 and 2006 Beef champs and VTI
runner�s-up
RADL- 2005 VTI champs, 2005 Dairy champs
Bayville
Blue Ridge- 2004 VTI runner�s-up
Baltimore
Spotsy

Dairy:
UniTTy- 2006 VTI and Dairy champs
PA- divisional runner�s up 2005 and 2006
NOVA
Home
Calvert
West Virginny

There's five dominant teams in the Beef division. Seneca is the best team in the history of the VTI. RADL consistently brings the most talented team. Bayville is always the biggest underachiever and are full of talent--plus they annexed team NN. Baltimore usually has players like Mela, Jernigan, and CLee if I'm not mistaken. Our team is bringing our best lineup ever and we're probably fifth best in our division. And team spotsy has the exemption from the play-out match (must be nice).

In the Dairy there's trim, who is the biggest overachiever in the history of the VTI. Team PA who's never made the finals. Team NoVA without Ronnie??? and Strokes and has three people I've never heard of. I don't know much about the "mystery" Home team, but I do know that their past VTI match record is very poor. Calvert was in last year's play-out match. I don't know much about Team WV.

Anyhoo, looks like Team Blue Ridge will be a donator this year. My last year as captain will need a miracle to stay out of the play-out game. If we were in the Dairy we'd likely make the playoffs.

Seneca vs. RADL in the finals. Book it.

I figured I'd talk a little smack since I'm not renewing until May (maybe) and my account will probably be zapped today. Thanks Biscoe for running the best tournament of the year. See ya'll in 25 days.

Your team just needs to "overachieve"...

I figured I'd talk a little smack since I'm not renewing until May (maybe) and my account will probably be zapped today. Thanks Biscoe for running the best tournament of the year. See ya'll in 25 days.



Vince is doing a countdown to my Birthday. That's so sweet.

We did in 2004! It was sweet.


If only we could bring a team with 10 Open players and have a 4000-mile radius region like ya'll did last year! :eek:

Celebrating your birthday and 403rd unretirement party!

BTW, here's our team. Hopefully it won't be our last.
Lefty
Wilhelm
Woods
Barr
Hoeppner
Bowman
Gonzalez
Clemons
Clark

I guess TTrim will be Over achieving AGAIN.

Anyone need a free agent? :cool:

In that division, you will be underachieving if you don't make the playoffs. Even if you can't play due to getting wrastled down the night before.


Hey Schweb, I'm sorry I forgot to autograph that disc for you at the HHO. If you want I can sign one and mail it to you. Let me know.

And BS, thanks for caddying for me in the finals and also carrying my jock strap even though everyone told you that you couldn't do it.


Alright.. that's it for the smack for a while. We'll see you at the Holler! Can't wait.

And BS, thanks for caddying for me in the finals and also carrying my jock strap even though everyone told you that you couldn't do it.





No problem bro...Just remember what you said..."I will return the favor at the 2007 vTTi when my squad is waiting on the sidelines to see who won, and hoping to be able to return in 2008." TThat was the exact quote...I have it beta-recorded. You even called it the vTTi...you are such a trooper.

UniTTy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

3 more weeks.

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Thanks for re posting the memories PP, and nice win in that match. :cool:

Thanks for takin the pic's. Bryan let me win, he feels sorry for me :D

cause I can't spell > Brian Schwayburger :D

great win fo real... i believe that was TThe Pro's only loss that weekend

Nice win for you too. Beatin Jim aint eazy!

That may have been his only loss :(

TThanks... it didnt seem very likely, after watching him throw in 2 - 80+ footers against carlton the round before. it was def some good golf by the entire group. i dont know if anyone could have beaten craig that round.

great win fo real... i believe that was TThe Pro's only loss that weekend

Thanks PiTTrified, You threw some great shots in that Final......and yes that was my only loss.

Its easy when you play w/ TTHe Pro.

i was watching the pga match play event this weekend and was wondering if some of the same rules applied to VTI.

for instance, after a hole was over the players would often go back and repeat the shot they had just missed for practice. it's not as though you are keeping a stroke total and the extra shot certainly wouldn't be added to the next hole. also, players were often tapping the ball up in the air with their club (which i've never seen them do during a normal event).

so in other words, if i miss a putt to lose the hole or the hole is conceded, can i take the putt over for practice or putt anyway? :confused:

No. Practice shots have always been allowed after you complete the hole in ball golf as long as it doesn't slow up the group behind yours.

and I think they are restricted to putts on the green, no chips or sand play accepted.

USGA Rule 7-2 allows practice chipping also but no shots from any hazard.

I stand corrected, good find Chuck

TTEAMS...?

yeah, let's get a chart like we had last year with all the teams...and then we can hear some odds and predictions from vince, biscoe, etc...

Whats the ratings cap for Masters div.?

old man or < 975

Thanx Bro!

when do you have to post your final team positions by?

why worry about position? The view never changes if you aren't the lead dog...

ah ha....... nice one there, but counting out nova is straight BS like Johnson

when do you have to post your final team positions by?

Saturday morning at the 2007 vTTi

i'm coming after that nova team that i couldn't play for :p

i'm the newest memeber of team calvert...

Nice Ronnie, way to geTT in sun

i'm coming after that nova team that i couldn't play for :p

i'm the newest memeber of team calvert...



bring it turner!!!!!!!! we miss you, but now we must destruct you and your terrapin loving team

i'm coming after that nova team that i couldn't play for :p

i'm the newest memeber of team calvert...



bring it turner!!!!!!!! we miss you, but now we must destruct you and your terrapin loving team




Dem fiten werdz ronnie /msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

TTEAm LISTS>

We're a bunch of ol timers > avg age is 39

ability is over 1000 rated though

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nice, now that I know what kind, I will bring yall some for the event.

the friZZaks had a crazy bet(dare) going that included a pair of those diapers.

March 17-18 Hawk Hollow DGC, Spotsylvania,VA

(in addition there will be a One and Done singles tournament Friday 3/16 at 2:00 pros $20 ams $10)

Beef:
Seneca - 2004 VTI champs, 2005 and 2006 Beef champs and VTI
runner�s-up
RADL- 2005 VTI champs, 2005 Dairy champs
Bayville
Blue Ridge- 2004 VTI runner�s-up
Baltimore
Spotsy

Dairy:
UniTTy- 2006 VTI and Dairy champs
PA- divisional runner�s up 2005 and 2006
NOVA
Home
Calvert
West Virginny

if they have xtra > we'll take them.

TTEAMS and PLAYAS?? CAn we get them listed?

off the top of my head so those in the know can correct me if I'm wrong...

Home:
Hysell
S. Miller
Ellis
Mullins
Bonday
Zadareky
Trapasso
Biscoe
Boyce
(Dave and Avery have finals the day after VTI)

PADE:
Moser
Kallstrom
Schneider
Strojny
Gobrecht
Kight
Taylor
?
A. Moser

Blue Ridge:
Whorley
Barr
Wilhelm
Woods
Hoeppner
Bowman
Clemons
Gonzalez
Clark

NOVA:
Hasnain
Locke
Liddell
Donelson
Smith
Pelchat
Callender
Rice
Lamont

uniTTy:
Schweb
Soleng
Soleng
Johnson
Land
Yahn
Adinolfi
Sheffield
DeMar

Spotsy:
Todd
Seely
Petro
Cannon
Stableford
Shattuck
Mathews
Eason
Weidle

RADL:
Haney
Hofmann
Schmalfield
?
Howard
Yoo
?
?
Hofmann

Bayville:
Jernigan
Lee
Stewart
Mangus?
Henry
Keirn
?
?
Frank


not sure on Seneca, Calvert, Baltimore, West Virginny.

calvert is
Glen Hatfield
Ron Turner
Andrew Rivers
Ross Pancoast
David Byrd Burroughs
Mark Boyce
James Bailey
Keith Palmer
Rhonda Ritter

i think seneca is... but i'm not certain
pitts
gawler
gregory
gangloff
pfeiffer
no spin
edwards
wimer
gawler

not sure about baltimore :o

aren't you on b-more aka mid-atlantic rebels?

yes, and i'm 99% sure who else is but i'm going to leave it up to the captain to enlighten yall. you might have to wait a little while on that ;)
teamwestvirginny is the BIG mystery.

i'm hoping to get some vti practice in this weekend :cool:

Baltimore
Joey Mela
Terry Roddy
Wayne Zink
??
??
??

Ray Thompson
Paul


Lindsay

just a shot /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

i'm sure ryan lugo is on there too.

bump

BumpS

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO....its getting closer.

Ain't no need in gettin' tearry-eyed...uniTTy takin' titles...point blank, per-i-od.

Veni, vidi, vici --uniTTy

Geeesh,we're gonna feel like we killed your dog after we take back our trophy! :(

I knew we shouldn't have lent it out! :p

what team is on deck for the 2008 vTTi?

if the format stays the same (will be decided sometime this summer) it is charlotte.

Geeesh,we're gonna feel like we killed your dog after we take back our trophy! :(




Actually, uniTTy saved a tiny puppy(and named him uniTTy)from an early highway death last year on our way back to NC...so yes, it would be like you killed our dog...our dog uniTTy. You wouldn't really want to do that would you DJ? You don't want to be a dog-killer. You're a nice guy...I know you are. At least I thought you were...now I'm reconsidering it...You know, I do remember you kickin' that poor little dog at vTTi last year during our round...and then laughing about it for more than a few holes...

So keep your canine-hatin' grubby liTTle hands off our trophy...

Good luck in 2008!

i shall commit beastiality upon all dogs. the good thing is, that will happen regardless of my team winning or losing. im in a win win situation.

beastiality...beastiality

woohoo! only nine days till i get to play HH! i was very fortunate to get a practice nine in there on a beautiful day last saturday.

WOW...beastialitty...whoa.
Anyway...we did save a dog last year...And fed him beef jerky...then we got pulled over, because we were the last car in the caravan...Bard ate a banana and blew a 0.o....whew....

nice blow bard

how did that banna taste

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easy lay up!

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(got the three)

the three from there? nice.

i was surprised by the pic. the shot was actually a beeline putter straight to about 5' from the pin.

(thanks PP for splendid photog work)

nice pics pp, how can i see the rest?

team west virginia is looking for 2 players with wv connections. email [email protected] if interested.

Why were you so far away? :D

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YES>>>>>i hope the animals are out for this years VTTI

i shall commit beastiality upon all cows

i shall commit beastiality upon all cows



Are you talking aboout the VTI or the club you going to this weekend?

i shall commit beastiality upon all cows



Feel the love!!!!!!!!!!

team west virginia is looking for 2 players with wv connections. email [email protected] if interested.



I used to go to WV for at least a weekend every month to visit friends, for a span of about 18 months... Does that count? Plus, I drive through it on 81 all the time.

team west virginia is looking for 2 players with wv connections. email [email protected] if interested.



I love my sister.............I mean really LOVE my sister!!!!

LOL.

team west virginia is looking for 2 players with wv connections. email [email protected] if interested.



I love my sister.............I mean really LOVE my sister!!!!



come on now. that is ridiculous. people in west virginia aren't really like that old stereotype. they would never consort with their siblings that way...

how do you feel about your cousins?? ;)

Gotta be real HOT.....

i shall commit beastiality upon all cows



Are you talking aboout the VTI or the club you going to this weekend?



can it be both??

i shall commit beastiality upon all cows



Are you talking aboout the VTI or the club you going to this weekend?



can it be both??



What happens at the VTI...Stays at the VTI or the club whichever you works for you!

Just make sure it isn't the bull /msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif :confused: :o

1 WEEK!!!

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooo. We will be leaving thursday night when i get off work @ 11:30....Love sleeping at reststops baby...love it.

beastiality, rest stop love... one might think they've stumbled into the WVO thread :p

If you Really Knew the FriZZaks, you are not very far from the truth. They keep iTT inda Family.

TT minus 5 days. Im not scared, are u?

Can't wait buddaay

i'm very eager. i look forward to every hole.

Can't wait to play HOLE 1 and the others.

UniTTY

do we know all the teams yet? (players i mean)

RADL ams are set.

Dave George (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/playerstats.php?PDGANum=27189&year=2006)

Jeremy Bond (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/playerstats.php?PDGANum=24669&year=2006)

Where's Dave Georeg from, I haven't seen play before.

the castle

for info's sake- i laid out the extra holes yesterday- they will be basically the same as last year, tees/pins may have moved slightly.

as of today the cattle are in attendance, hopefully i will catch them on the other side of the gate at some point this week and lock them out- that is to one degree or another up to them, the creek makes it very difficult to drive cattle down there.

anyone from spotsy/nova available for some labor on thursday please pm me or call me at 540-661-6685. i need some help installing upgraded bridges. also, i am currently in need of a few baskets, contact me if you can bring any.

tee time for the one and done on friday has been changed to 2:30 in light of daylight savings time.

as long as we have no major rain this week course will be in great shape.

...and no limit hold 'em tourney at my place saturday night, exact time tba. $30 buy in. pm me if you are interested. 20 playa max.

current vti odds (for entertainment puposes only) :
seneca 5-1
unitty 8-1
radl* 10-1
pade 12-1
blue ridge 20-1
bayville* 20-1
home 25-1
nova 25-1
mid-atlantic rebels (b-more)* 35-1
calvert* 50-1
west virginia* 100-1
spotsy 100-1

*= not sure of exact makeup of team.

the castle



Duh' Big Wave Dave....excellent

TT minus 5 days. Im not scared, are u?



TT minus 1.

We don't have a lady player as of last week. :(

Calvert is set.

Glen Hatfield
Ron Turner
Andrew Rivers
Ross Pancoast

Mark Boyce
David Burroughs

James Bailey
Keith Palmer

Rhonda Ritter

the castle



Duh' Big Wave Dave....excellent



scheffy picture me throwing ya a big wave in VA. homie. that is one thing i love about the board you know everyone's handle but then see thier real name and you are like who is that :D

Where is Tom Kim?

Very true.

I remember playing Texas one time we were talking about the discussion board and a guy in my group was like that MTL guy on there really pisses me off.

I dont know if I ever told him it was me. Good times.

Where is Tom Kim?



injured reserve

TK is recovering from an arm injury, he should be back soon but not quite yet........

Very true.

I remember playing Texas one time we were talking about the discussion board and a guy in my group was like that MTL guy on there really pisses me off.

I dont know if I ever told him it was me. Good times.


that is good stuff.

What happened to TK??????????????

After caddying for me @ USDGC on the last day, instead of riding down w/ me on a cart, he decided to ride his skateboard down the big hill by #3. When I look up to see how he's doing, he's doing a stuntman roll w/ his body, but his arm decides not to do the roll.

He had sugery in Dec or Jan and will be ready next year for a righty round. I think it was 2 or three weeks after the surgery he was playing lefty.

What happened to TK??????????????

After caddying for me @ USDGC on the last day, instead of riding down w/ me on a cart, he decided to ride his skateboard down the big hill by #3. When I look up to see how he's doing, he's doing a stuntman roll w/ his body, but his arm decides not to do the roll.

He had sugery in Dec or Jan and will be ready next year for a righty round. I think it was 2 or three weeks after the surgery he was playing lefty.



So much for everything being a hyzer - Tom may need to borrow some flippy discs from someone.

current vti odds (for entertainment puposes only) :
seneca 8-1
unitty 8-1
radl 8-1
pade 12-1
blue ridge 20-1
bayville* 20-1
home 25-1
nova 25-1
mid-atlantic rebels (b-more)* 35-1
calvert* 50-1
west virginia* 100-1
spotsy 100-1

*= not sure of exact makeup of team.

current vti odds (for entertainment puposes only) :
seneca 8-1
uni<font color="red">TT</font>y 8-1
radl 8-1
pade 12-1
blue ridge 20-1
bayville* 20-1
home 25-1
nova 25-1
mid-atlantic rebels (b-more)* 35-1
calvert* 50-1
west virginia* 100-1
spotsy 100-1

*= not sure of exact makeup of team.



I started smellin' cow patties in my sleep last week...you know I'm ready!!!

spirits?

spirits?



The jar has been emptied and is at maximum spirit collection capacity...Who is going in first???

current vti odds (for entertainment puposes only) :
seneca 8-1
uni<font color="red">TT</font>y 8-1
radl 8-1
pade 12-1
blue ridge 20-1
bayville* 20-1
home 25-1
nova 25-1
mid-atlantic rebels (b-more)* 35-1
calvert* 50-1
west virginia* 100-1
spotsy 100-1

*= not sure of exact makeup of team.



I started smellin' cow patties in my sleep last week...you know I'm ready!!!



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Mr. Biscoe - Do you know the schedule yet? Who vs Who

no, i haven't done it yet. it will be done some time between now and thursday.

Good luck to Team Blue Ridge this weekend, although I do not think that any of those guys will be able to read this message, maybe ever. If anyone sees Wilhelm
Woods,Barr,Hoeppner,Bowman,Gonzalez, or Clark tell them I said to kick butt. I'll call Whorley & Clemons personally. I gotta like these guys chances on a cow pasture.

for odds purposes...

Team Mid-Atlantic Rebels

Troddy
KMac
izink
paul (from paul vs. hawk)
Mr. Bill
MDubbs
RYLO
Baltimore Ray
& girlie

See you all on Saturday :D

Vegan Ray is IN! Watch out, hate-az, Team WV is in full effect.

Mr. Biscoe - What time do we start on Sat???????

10:00 tee

nice

anyone know the wv lineup????? i talked with deebo and he quickly told me ryan jones was on team wv, then his phone died. i haven't gotten back in touch and am trying to make sure jones is on the team. holla at cha melt

anyone coming from the Blacksburg area? blueridgers...

i'm pretty sure ryan is on the team, along with kyle b, vegan ray, tiffany mathews, deebo, adam klimas, ?,?,?.

2 DAYS.....I fart in the general direction of all those unale to aTTend this event...I have been looking forward to this all year...especially since we have the trophy hear to remind us of it!!! Woooooooooooooooot Wooooooooooooooot.
BraKKKKKKKA BraKKKKKKa

todd brogan is on wv as well.

should be a relief to a few teams that, in light of the fact that they won't have sufficient players from wv to meet event requirements, wv will automatically be the team eliminated from vti 2008. no high pressure elimination match this year.

...does sort of take the fun out the fact that WE'RE EXEMPT #$*&$!!! :p

Must be nice being the Home Team

Disc Golf Monthly will be extending it's coverage to Virginia Golf with coverage of the VTI.

This will be the first time that Disc Golf Monthly will cover a tournament in Virginia and with Virginia golfers being able to watch Disc Golf Monthly on demand via Comcast Digital cable it will not be the last.

Please note, for those former Adelphia subscribers who are in Virginia you will see Disc Golf Monthly upon the completion of an engineering upgrade. This upgrade will take place before the year ends, this is the best timetable I can provide.

Select content footage at the VTI will make it into the Disc Golf Monthly Weekly Update which can be seen at

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<font color="red">while you're there please sign the guest book </font>, comments and opinions are welcome.

Upcomming taping dates are as follows........

April 15th- the 30th Annual Philadelphia Open/ will air in June07

April 28th/29th- The Seneca Soiree/ will air in July 07

more dates to come in the future.

Thanks for your interest in Disc Golf Monthly the show that brings you one step closer to the sport of Disc Golf!

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Producer/Director
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Thanks for doing this Kevin...heard many requests for this to be taped for future viewing.
You won't be disappointed...best tournament of the year!!

Must be nice being the Home Team



depends on whether you enjoy building bridges or not. ;)

Building Bridges is good Karma.

especially when those bridges are on one of the best courses the eastern US has to offer

not just the East coast....The World.

i hear ya, HH is my favorite course but I still haven't played enough courses throughout the country to be able to make that claim yet. Also I think that toboggin is a better course but it's not permanent so HH gets my number one.

... no water or cow pies at toboggan, also i think HH has a better variety of short(er) holes. can't go wrong with either one though. i thought cass benton was the best around ann arbor in 2000.

Of course I really like Warwick, and Maple Hill sure is a Hell of a course, oh yeah I love the woodshed, whoops off topic ...... nice reverie though ;)

Wow. In just two posts you two mentioned 4 of my 5 favorite courses plus my home course.....what's the likelihood of that? We'd only have to throw Renny Gold in there to round out the five....and if you don't believe me, just check out my profile under Team DiscrafTT

Oh, by the way, just because the Toboggan isn't "in" doesn't mean you can't buy a few orange flags from Home Depot and play the course all you want....it's been great being the only one out there. See you tomorrow, Biscoe!

Anxiously awaiting the schedule Mr. Biscoe :D:D

Schedule tomorrow....update at 11 p.m.

(sigh) could have sworn I saw that is was going to be posted TODAY...okay okay I'll work on being patient (HA)

John,

I know they are out there but I don't want to wade through hundreds of posts trying to find them.

Can you cut and paste them again please? It seems like everytime I go there I end up coming in from a different direction.

Kirk

so then all roads lead to spotsy....Well I'm amped about playing HH for the first time!

Aye-aye, Captain:

95 S to course
95s to rt 3 west (Culpeper)
rt 3 west 8-10 miles to left on 621
621 west over 9.8 miles to left on 608 (there will be a store on right hand side)
just short of 2.3 miles take a right onto 601 (There is no sign coming
in that direction Just go slow around 2.2 mi and Keep your eyes open for a
road that has no sign. You will see the sign facing the other direction for
#601 as you make the turn.)
over 2 miles (You will pass Wolf Mountain Farms on the way) take a right on 652 (belmont rd)
There will be a church on left side (2 driveways)
Next driveway on left has mailbox reading towsey turn here.

95 to Grange
95 to thornburg exit
right on 606 west
left on Blockhouse rd - grange is 7200 blockhouse, about 1/2 mile, basket
at end of drive.

Grange to course
left from driveway on blockhouse
left at light on 606/208
follow 208 when 606/208 diverge (turn left)
follow signs for lake anna state park to right on 601 (lawyers rd)
6-7 miles to left at stopsign on 652. (601 will become 653 during this time)
first driveway after church- mailbox says towsey

Course to grange.
right from driveway
turn right on 653 (first road)
653 will become 601- continue straight to left at stopsign on 208
follow 208 to right at blockhouse rd (1st light)
grange will be on right- 7200 blockhouse

to course from rt 29 southbound
29 to culpeper, exit to rt 3 east/ 522 south
follow 522 south 15 or so miles to left on 719
3-5 miles to left at stop on 652
course 1 mile on right. (just after fire station on left)

from the west
64 east to ferncliff exit- rt 208 N towards louisa
follow 208 through towns of louisa and mineral
when 522 leaves 208 stay on 522
1 mile to right on 719
4-5 miles to course on right (just after fire station on left)

from the south
64 west from richmond to gum springs exit- 522 north
follow 522 through town of mineral
when 208 leaves 522 stay on 522
1 mile to right on 719
4-5 miles to course on right (just after fire station on left)

well looks like i'm the newest member of team bayville and i'm stoaked about a whole weekend of playing HH yet again! getting away from school this weekend is also going to be nice, this week and more specifically today, has been quite a rough one. I'll just be happy when in less than 48 hrs i'll be warming up on my fav course!!

95 S to course
95s to rt 3 west (Culpeper)
rt 3 west 8-10 miles to left on 621
621 west over 9.8 miles to left on 608 (there will be a store on right hand side)
just short of 2.3 miles take a right onto 601 (There is no sign coming
in that direction Just go slow around 2.2 mi and Keep your eyes open for a
road that has no sign. You will see the sign facing the other direction for
#601 as you make the turn.)
over 2 miles (You will pass Wolf Mountain Farms on the way) take a right on 652 (belmont rd)
There will be a church on left side (2 driveways)
Next driveway on left has mailbox reading towsey turn here.

When using these directions, where do we exit 95. We are coming from CT....
Just looking looking for something to keep a look out for...Oh yeah, how long can we bank on this drive taking?

Rt 3 West off of 95.

"Oh yeah, how long can we bank on this drive taking?"
Better leave now if you want to make it.

95 S to course
95s to rt 3 west (Culpeper)
rt 3 west 8-10 miles to left on 621
621 west over 9.8 miles to left on 608 (there will be a store on right hand side)<font color="red">just short of 2.3 miles take a right onto 601 (There is no sign coming
in that direction Just go slow around 2.2 mi and Keep your eyes open for a
road that has no sign. You will see the sign facing the other direction for
#601 as you make the turn.)

</font> over 2 miles (You will pass Wolf Mountain Farms on the way) take a right on 652 (belmont rd)
There will be a church on left side (2 driveways)
Next driveway on left has mailbox reading towsey turn here.

When using these directions, where do we exit 95. We are coming from CT....
Just looking looking for something to keep a look out for...Oh yeah, how long can we bank on this drive taking?



in all seriousness, i drove down from the inlaws home near newark,nj and the directions are good......pay attention to the part in red as if not you will be calling john from somewhere down the road and with spotty cell service in the area, you might not get through and not many people in the area know where hawk hollow is :eek:(being the legend course that it is, john should have maps available at all area gas stations and conveinence stores :D)

and drive time is EXTREMELY dependant on when you get near the dc area....try to pass through there btween 11am-1pm(not kidding)as i spent 4 hours going about 25 miles cuz i didn't have any ideas what roads i could take to get around and pick up 95 again

hope this helps
keith

When using these directions, where do we exit 95. We are coming from CT....
Just looking looking for something to keep a look out for...Oh yeah, how long can we bank on this drive taking?



i believe it's exit 130 (will say towards culpepper). it's about 40 miles south of the 495 interchange.

weve decided to leave this evening and avoid all traffic and the incoming Nor-easter...We will probably sleep at a rest area in VA....If the car is rockin, its prabably not ours....

Oh yeah...I think Cahill will be joining us...

if he wants to play- wv has space. let me know though so i dont get someone else for them. 540-854-8688

Dairy:
D1 UniTTy
D2 PADE
D3 NOVA
D4 Home
D5 Calvert
D6 WV

Beef:
B1 Da Bomb Squad
B2 RADL
B3 Bayville
B4 MidAtlantic Rebels
B5- Blue Ridge
B6- Spotsy

All play is within your division. Matches 1-3 Saturday, 4-5 Sunday

Match 1:
1-6
2-3
4-5

Match 2:
1-3
2-5
4-6

Match3:
1-2
3-4
5-6

Match 4:
1-4
2-6
3-5

Match 5:
1-5
2-4
3-6

Thanks John

Its going to be sunny and 60 on sat!!!!!! everyone be ready for some good golf in perfect disc golf weather. it looks like that rain is holding off too..... no rain at the hawk at ALL so far, and it doesn't look like its getting any friday night either. mwa ha ha ha ha

erik- you are deluded, lots of rain so far, but none real hard, hopefully this will continue to be the case. otherwise, contingency plans may be forced into effect. (plan a= change some holes, plan b= the grange) i may simply quit running events after this one as the gods seem to be against me. dealing with large sums of other people's money at work is nowhere near as stressful as running disc golf events, especially when you consider that one pays and the other doesn't.

i will update later today. oh yeah, schedule above was incorrect.

erik- you are deluded, lots of rain so far, but none real hard, hopefully this will continue to be the case. otherwise, contingency plans may be forced into effect. (plan a= change some holes, plan b= the grange) i may simply quit running events after this one as the gods seem to be against me. dealing with large sums of other people's money at work is nowhere near as stressful as running disc golf events, especially when you consider that one pays and the other doesn't.

i will update later today. oh yeah, schedule above was incorrect.



your kidding about the plan B right?

gotta do what ya gotta do. no sense playing HH if the bridges wash out. it'd be one thing if it was a normal tourney and we could make do with some extra holes, but we need all HH has got to field the team event. live by the creek, die by the creek :p

heading down today, but i doubt we'll play much if at all.

weather was picture perfect at last VTI. it'll be nice on sunday.

... no water or cow pies at toboggan, also i think HH has a better variety of short(er) holes. can't go wrong with either one though. i thought cass benton was the best around ann arbor in 2000.



HH is top with me considering the beauty of the land and quality of the design.

New Quarter has really nice tee signs and score cards :D

I may try to catch some of the action on Sunday. Caught the MF'r cold that has been going around - temp of 102 last night - but it seems to be on it's way out as of this AM.

Good luck to all the teams, especially the ones from Virginia.

what paul said.

Mike dont have Relapse

That's right, I don't.

I can swim :p!

Well for all those out there who want to know what the weather's gonna be like for this weekend. I've looked at the NWS forecast and radar's as well as some other model data and have come to the conclusion that I think we're gonna be dodging a bullet considering it's raining alot today and supposed to rain again on monday and tuesday. I do however, as of now because of what I've seen, think that we should be ok on sat and sun. Most of the rain/snow should be passed by early morning on saturday leaving only a slight chance (20%) of rain/snow showers during the day on saturday. Sunday looks nice, with high's around 50 and next to no chance of rain. The one thing that should be noticed though is that it looks like there could be some significant wind to make the weekend all the more fun and a little bit colder. Well there ya go and eventhough I've almost got a degree in meteorology, it's still an inexact science so don't quote me on this but this should give you all a good idea of what to expect for VTI weather :p

UniTTy domination restarts in 20 1/2 hours, R U prepared to be dominated.

WEATHER DELAY FOR ALL TEAMS

Note to Home Team Players - Super Secret Meeting at 4:45 am on Saturday Morning followed by several quick forfeits by teams that have not arrived. Finals here we come!

Luckily I am the only one from our team with puter access right now.

I just had some joker call me asking for directions to the Grange, saying that the VTI has been officially moved to there. Say it ain't so, Biscoe!

boooooooooo

I just had some joker call me asking for directions to the Grange, saying that the VTI has been officially moved to there. Say it ain't so, Biscoe!



John posted that it was an option, not a foregone conclusion.

I know; I'm just reportin' what strangers are tellin' me.

I know you know. But some might not know what I know you know, you know? :D

Well for all those out there who want to know what the weather's gonna be like for this weekend. I've looked at the NWS forecast and radar's as well as some other model data and have come to the conclusion that I think we're gonna be dodging a bullet considering it's raining alot today and supposed to rain again on monday and tuesday. I do however, as of now because of what I've seen, think that we should be ok on sat and sun. Most of the rain/snow should be passed by early morning on saturday leaving only a slight chance (20%) of rain/snow showers during the day on saturday. Sunday looks nice, with high's around 50 and next to no chance of rain. The one thing that should be noticed though is that it looks like there could be some significant wind to make the weekend all the more fun and a little bit colder. Well there ya go and eventhough I've almost got a degree in meteorology, it's still an inexact science so don't quote me on this but this should give you all a good idea of what to expect for VTI weather :p



looking at the models i have seen and not haveing a weather and climate class for many years i think the high preassure system behind this front will provide dry air masses and much colder temps for the weekend i do not see any precepitaton at all for the weekend but like you said very windy conditions will be on tap for saturday. lets hope the creeks did not overflow and we actually get to play HH. my fingers are crossed.

2nd

Very sloppy 2nd.

creek is completely over the banks. for those of you at last fall's hawk hollow open it is a good 4-5 FEET higher than it was then. vti 2007 will be contested at the grange. i know this is less than ideal in many people's eyes but believe me there is nothing that can be done about it- i have never seen the water close to that high. amazing that 2 of our 3 biggest rainstorms in the last year have fallen immediately prior to hawk hollow events. this one makes the one in the fall look insignificant.

once again, VTI 2007 WILL BE PLAYED AT THE GRANGE. PASS THE WORD!!!

tee time will be 10:30 to allow stragglers to make it over from HH.

Based on the report I received from central Virginia earlier today, I think it's a pretty sure bet that the creeks are going to be challenged and perhaps the bridges too.

It'll still be a blast!!!! Cya at the Grange . . .

John-
Do I still need to bring my basket? I am assuming not because you have moved it to the Grange, but let me know if you get this. I'm not leaving until later tonight.

Terry

no baskets needed- thanks to those who were bringing them.

updates????????????????

^^ they are probably still on the course, didn't start til at least 10:30...........I wouldn't expect any updates until this evening.

All I know is RADL is undefeated and defending champs Team UniTTy was defeated by the Home team today.

Team CALVERT beat nova....

that's all i know.

start time for saturday?

We started at 10:30ish but it was Grange time so it was much closer to 11:00

ha...man, i meant sunday...

Glen told me 9:00, get up! BTW I am heading out now to cheer on Team Calvert.... :cool:

Happy Birthday Mr. Hysell! :D

Happy Birthday Mr. Hysell! :D



By the way....today is Marie's birthday, too!

Team Blue ridge beat Spotsy and Mid-Atlantic yesterday, then lost to Bayville.

y'all need some sort of a way to post mid-tourney results.

Doesn't the grange have a campfire? You could send up smoke signals.

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RADL wins 5-4 over Seneca in the Finals

Thanks Biscoe for all the hard work it takes to put something like this together to run so smoothly. It was a great time yet again.

Thanks to team calvert who picked me up and let me play for them. Hopefully you'll have me back next year.

Another great VTI experience. UniTTy won the Dairy division, PADE was 2nd. RADL won the BEEF division, Seneca got 2nd. Seneca beat us 6-3 in the Semis and RADL beat PADE 5-4 I think. GREAT time had by all.

congraTTs RadL!!!

Seneca beat us 6-3 in the Semis



actually it was 5-4

werd

WOW!!!! Thanks for all the hard work John and Mike. Thanks and congrats to Seneca for being great sportmans, it means a lot.

Congrats to RADL!!!

Great time and great people as is the Karma of VTI!
Thanks to Mike for the Grange and hosting this for all of the folks who came out.

Good Times...it's fun when the competition is so close! Great job, John, managing all the adversities and being flexible. Only in Mike Trapasso's world can you accommodate over 100 guests for the weekend on less than a days notice - THANKS!

Congrats RADL!

i'm sore and pondering retirement. See you all next weekend.

Another fine show down aT The Grange. Slide show! (http://www.sharkysshots.com/displayimage.php?album=80&pid=4580&slideshow=5000)

thanks for the memories Sharky

Congrats RADL! Way to represent!

Back inda Cackalack.....3 years Runnin'

Chris, not a very good birthday present to you from the <font color="blue">HH</font><font color="666666">OME TEAM</font>

final standings were:
Beef:
RADL 5-0
Da Bomb Squad (Seneca) 4-1
Bayville 3-2
Blue Ridge 2-3
Spotsy 1-4
Mid-Atlantic Rebels 0-5

Dairy:
Unitty 4-1
PADE 3-1-1
HHome 3-2
NOVA 2-2-1
Calvert 2-3
WV 0-5

as previously noted Raleigh defeated PADE and Seneca defeated Unitty in the semis. Raleigh defeated Seneca 5-4 in the finals. It all came down to the am1 match which went into extra holes.

Thanks to all for a fine display of sportsmanship and camaraderie. This is by far the most gratifying event to run that I have ever been involved with.

Happy late birthday Hysell, we love you sweetie.

final standings were:
Beef:
RADL 5-0
Da Bomb Squad (Seneca) 4-1
Bayville 3-2
Blue Ridge 2-3
Spotsy 1-4
Mid-Atlantic Rebels 0-5

Dairy:
Uni<font color="red">TT</font>y 4-1
PADE 3-1-1
HHome 3-2
NOVA 2-2-1
Calvert 2-3
WV 0-5

as previously noted Raleigh defeated PADE and Seneca defeated Uni<font color="red">TT</font>y in the semis. Raleigh defeated Seneca 5-4 in the finals. It all came down to the am1 match which went into extra holes.

Thanks to all for a fine display of sportsmanship and camaraderie. This is by far the most gratifying event to run that I have ever been involved with.

Happy late birthday Hysell, we love you sweetie.



we LOVE YOU too, Biscoe!!!

Thanks again Biscoe, you make This Event what it has become. Great Fun in Competition.

Wow...what a wild event....John you are DA MAN!!!!!! Thanks for doing what you do so VERY well!!!!! Thanks to all the ladies that I had the chance to play with. Way to go Kristen on being undefeated :D...I kinda dig match play......

Mother Nature threw Biscoe a big old Bert Blyleven curveball this weekend, but he still hit it out of the park for a grand slam. Huge thanks to John for another great VTI experience. Thanks to Mike for hosting. Congratulations to RADL. Thanks to my playing partners Vince, Rob, Pat, Mike & Hunter for fine sportsmanship.

My disappointment with not playing Hawk Hollow was somewhat tempered by getting to see the Grange for the first time. The Darkside is a world class wooded course. Tiki is just incredible fun.

Thanks again John!

final standings were:
Beef:
RADL 5-0
Da Bomb Squad (Seneca) 4-1
Bayville 3-2
Blue Ridge 2-3
Spotsy 1-4
Mid-Atlantic Rebels 0-5

Dairy:
Unitty 4-1
PADE 3-1-1
HHome 3-2
NOVA 2-2-1
Calvert 2-3
WV 0-5

as previously noted Raleigh defeated PADE and Seneca defeated Unitty in the semis. Raleigh defeated Seneca 5-4 in the finals. It all came down to the am1 match which went into extra holes.

Thanks to all for a fine display of sportsmanship and camaraderie. This is by far the most gratifying event to run that I have ever been involved with.

Happy late birthday Hysell, we love you sweetie.

TThanks for all your hard work biscoe, glad we could inspire the new logo. congraTTs RADL, way to keep the jug down south. this tourney should be the sportsmanship model for all disc gold events, good to be a part of it.

uniTTy

oh yeah- one other thing HHome Team did manage to hand UniTTy their first loss in 2 years in the pre-lims!!!

and thanks to Sheffy for my new favorite shirt!!

So who won between Mid Atlantic and WV to stick around for next year?

I want to thank John and Mike for hosting us this weekend.

I want to thank my Team for pulling it out at the end. It was a closer finish than I would have liked.

We voted our 2 Advanced players, Jeremy Bond and Dave George, as our MVPs. They were the ones that pulled us through at the very end.

We voted (all of us except Mike) that Mandi should be our Team Spirit award winner.

I had more than half the team in my truck (myself, Mcree, Schmalfeld, Bond and George). We had a lot of fun going up and coming home.

I also want to thank Steve Miller, his uncle and his Mom for putting up with us for the weekend.

Thanks for all of the accolades folks!!!

Kirk out!!!

there was no playoff
WV was out from the start

west virginia was unable to field a team within event requirements so were eliminated regardless of their performance. thanks to the "pick-up" team which they turned out to be for being good sports about it.

thanks Goldberg!!! ;)

goldberg (http://www.sharkysshots.com/displayimage.php?album=80&pos=59)

Is it too early to discuss "team event requirements" for next year? Will it be the same as this year as far as team members grandfathered in and boundary living requirements?

yes, it's too early.

presuming i keep roughly the same format (12 teams) the only likely major change will be that masters will have to be masters age.

i am considering some alternatives however which i am not prepared to elaborate on at this time.

goldberg (http://www.sharkysshots.com/displayimage.php?album=80&pos=59)



Trap and his Kirk Yoo Signature Frisbee

i am considering some alternatives however which i am not prepared to elaborate on at this time.



Can you tell by the way he talks that John lives on Lawyers Road?

I am already making plans for 2008. I hope that John continues to run what has turned out to be the most fun event of the year.

I wonder how many years we can keep the Milk Jug in NC?

Kirk

I am already making plans for 2008. I hope that John continues to run what has turned out to be the most fun event of the year.

I wonder how many years we can keep the Milk Jug in NC?

Kirk

4Eva

I am already making plans for 2008. I hope that John continues to run what has turned out to be the most fun event of the year.

I wonder how many years we can keep the Milk Jug in NC?

Kirk

4Eva



We may need to change the requirements...

Change them all you want.

The RADL Team has always followed the requirements as well as the spirit of the rules.

We may not win it everytime but we will likely always be a contender.

Kirk

Thats true Kirk! I was just joking... I've no problem with any of the rules, but there is a difference between a 40 year old's back and a 30 year old's back (unless you are Larry).

I absolutely agree with you.

Last year at HH I was competing against players in their early 20's that were throwing about 100 feet further than I could ever reach. One of them was parking holes that I could never dream of reaching.

I think John has already addressed this issue for '08.

Kirk

I absolutely agree with you.

Last year at HH I was competing against players in their early 20's that were throwing about 100 feet further than I could ever reach. One of them was parking holes that I could never dream of reaching.

I think John has already addressed this issue for '08.

Kirk



but were they reaching holes myers and gangloff couldn't reach?

myers was out throwing me by 80+

It has been a long time since I have seen Jim throw pure distance. But I have played with Craig plenty of times and his distance is not that much better than mine.

In the NC States every year I average between 460' and 480'. The player that I competed against could do that with an approach disc. The upside was that it was impressive to see someone throw way past my furthest drive. The down side was that he was 20 years younger than I am.

I guess my take on the VTI is that as popular as it has become it shouldn't be that much of a problem fielding a team that has the right players in the right positions.

i am in agreement with you on that. my initial setup was to make it easy to field a team- thus we even had a ratings break where males could play with the women. now that there is such demand for the event it makes sense to bring it in line with pdga requirements imo. i just don't feel the argument that the young guys throw farther holds much water.

...and , not to be argumentative but i've played with both of you a bunch and craig throws considerably further than you do. :p

What if a team uses some really big masterdebaters....