Boneman
Sep 01 2005, 01:42 PM
What features do you look for in a disc golf shoe, and what are the most important to you? A poll.

cbdiscpimp
Sep 01 2005, 01:48 PM
I only wear Salomon shoes to play disc golf. They are super light weight, they look sweet and are amazingly comfy.

On to of all that, they also sponsor disc golf and disc golf players :D

Sep 01 2005, 02:10 PM
I'm surprised that Mills didn't start this post, but am reassured that he had the first response. :)

Sep 01 2005, 02:39 PM
I haven't found a shoe that can withstand concrete boxes. I'm looking for durable, waterproof, shoe with at least med. traction. If anybody knows of a shoe that will fills this criteria and will last at least a year of heavy use on concrete boxes please let me know.

m_conners
Sep 01 2005, 02:43 PM
Buy some K-Swiss court shoes...the ones I use are very durable, there made for tennis players.

xterramatt
Sep 01 2005, 02:43 PM
I'm about to jump and purchase a pair of these.

http://www.zappos.com/n/p?dp=7249187

they are sweet and have a cool gaiter for those dewwy morning rounds. and they are gore tex and have good traction and a decent, tough toe area.

williethekid
Sep 01 2005, 02:45 PM
i found these north face bulidering shoes at EMS that have high traction everywhere except the toe which is smooth to allow for the pivot. They are out of my size but I have a pair on order, which should prove to promising. Right now I use North Face Blaze low hiking shoes which are great, but these look better.

cbdiscpimp
Sep 01 2005, 02:48 PM
Go to www.salomonsports.com (http://www.salomonsports.com)

Go to the United states site and go to footwear. The ones I used are under the running section but they have many other good shoes as well if you are looking for more support and durability :D

m_conners
Sep 01 2005, 02:49 PM
I found these to have incredible traction, support and durability:

http://partyoptions.net/pinatas/unique/shoe.jpg

Sep 01 2005, 02:53 PM
I wasn't thinking when I bought my Merril's. They offer great traction on your 2nd and 3rd shots, but they are not good off the tee, which is concrete on my home course. I've been told that they wear in a little.

I hope so because they are very stiff right now and very uncomfortable, especially in the heal.

I may order me some soloman's from somewhere. Do they have good traction for tee boxes and dirt?

Sep 01 2005, 03:12 PM
I throw sidearm off the tee a lot, and I (unfortunatly) hit the teepad with my left foot (I'm a southpaw) when I release. I go through a new pair of shoes every 4 months because I tear the sole off the front of my shoe, then rip through the toebox. Anyone suggest a shoe that has a very well made rubber front?

Sep 01 2005, 03:26 PM
I hope so because they are very stiff right now and very uncomfortable, especially in the heal.



I had the same problem with my Merrils. For me they were amazing shoes but tore the crap out of my heels. I switched to some trail running Adidas and they're much more comfortable, but not as good overall. They were about half the price of the Merrils, though.

sandalman
Sep 01 2005, 03:29 PM
I haven't found a shoe that can withstand concrete boxes. I'm looking for durable, waterproof, shoe with at least med. traction. If anybody knows of a shoe that will fills this criteria and will last at least a year of heavy use on concrete boxes please let me know.

Chaco Sandals. www.chacosan.com... (http://www.chacosan.com...) and available on ebay for 75-80 buxxx. get the Z2 withe Terrano soles. it excels in the criteria you mention, and offers unsurpassed stability and support.

Pimpster, yes, if you absolutely MUST wear shoes for some reason, Salomon are one of the very best.

adogg187420
Sep 01 2005, 03:38 PM
I bought a couple pairs of Merrills and they were done in about 6 months because of holes on the inside of the left shoe, because of my run-up. I bought a couple pairs of Salomons and they are perfect, and ive had them for over a year now with no wear and tear showing. These are the ones I wear on Sundays - http://www.salomonoutdoor.com/img/produits/zoom/418128.jpg
And these are the ones i wear on Saturdays - http://www.salomonoutdoor.com/img/produits/zoom/872552.jpg

stevemaerz
Sep 01 2005, 04:10 PM
I found these to have incredible traction, support and durability:

http://partyoptions.net/pinatas/unique/shoe.jpg



Very nice, MC!!!!

I wonder if I can find them in my size (13).

Sep 01 2005, 04:23 PM
It's not waterproof, but you can wear waterproof socks.

Columbia River Trainer Water Shoe Mens

http://www.gijoes.com/product/index.jsp?productId=1853062&cp=766034.766039.1251575&page=2&pageBucket=0&parentPage=family

Anybody know where Columbia Corp HQ is? Anybody approached them for sponsorship?

cbdiscpimp
Sep 01 2005, 04:29 PM
I bought a couple pairs of Merrills and they were done in about 6 months because of holes on the inside of the left shoe, because of my run-up. I bought a couple pairs of Salomons and they are perfect, and ive had them for over a year now with no wear and tear showing. These are the ones I wear on Sundays - http://www.salomonoutdoor.com/img/produits/zoom/418128.jpg
And these are the ones i wear on Saturdays - http://www.salomonoutdoor.com/img/produits/zoom/872552.jpg



OMG!!!!!!!! FlyingHigh and I are agreeing on something :eek: Someone go outside and see if the world is coming to an end :eek:

junnila
Sep 01 2005, 04:37 PM
http://www.zappos.com/n/p/dp/3873227/c/400.html

I rock these Timbo's, but those other ones that xterra showed are sweet, I'm getting some tonight!

Sep 01 2005, 04:40 PM
I throw sidearm off the tee a lot, and I (unfortunatly) hit the teepad with my left foot (I'm a southpaw) when I release. I go through a new pair of shoes every 4 months because I tear the sole off the front of my shoe, then rip through the toebox. Anyone suggest a shoe that has a very well made rubber front?



If you aren't especially worried about the good look of your shoes you could go out and get something like this plastic toe guard. (http://www.eastbay.com/catalog/productdetail.cfm?TID=5555-48010514420148140918307-0&module=sideNav&action=keywordSearch&supercat=other&sku=193375&model_nbr=1119)

I am sure if you look around you might find some cheaper/better/whatever. I just remembered these from browsing an Eastbay catalog a while back.

Sep 01 2005, 04:45 PM
I have recently begun moving away from platform shoes into something a little more comfortable and golf appropriate....

http://www.trocadero.com/bnc19/items/389335/catphoto.jpg

Nothing quite like foot binding! And to think, there are people now days beginning to start binding again...

Sep 01 2005, 07:46 PM
I have owned K-Swiss shoes before and they have excelent toe and sole durability off of concrete tees but after a couple months the sole was flat (still perfect for concrete tees) but completely useless on dirt teeboxes and wet days.

My friend has used a pair of flat bottom addidas (skateboarding type shoes) that have lasted over two years of constant use on concrete boxes which leads me to believe that this type of shoe is the most durable (maybe even the best) type of shoe for dry days/dry concrete boxes.

I have also owned Columbia trail shoes and they were great at first until the concrete teeboxes nawwed the traction off the bottom (less than three months). Now some of the sole has even ripped off.

Don't get me wrong. I think the traction/waterproofing of the hiking shoes is perfect but within a mater of months the concrete teeboxes rip the traction of the bottom.

I guess to be even more specific than my first question, is it unreasonable/dreaming to think that there is a shoe that would be the perfect combination of the two, meaning the durability of a thick flatbottom, heavily rubbered toe shoe and the waterproof, traction of a hiking shoe?

Sep 01 2005, 08:34 PM
I would love to vote in the poll, but appearentally some one from my IP address has aready voted.

But the only shoe's I disc in now are Sauchany Jazz, light, tight, and super grippy on a tee pad.

Boneman
Sep 01 2005, 08:53 PM
I guess to be even more specific than my first question, is it unreasonable/dreaming to think that there is a shoe that would be the perfect combination of the two, meaning the durability of a thick flatbottom, heavily rubbered toe shoe and the waterproof, traction of a hiking shoe?



I don't think it's unreasonable at all ... In fact, I think it's quite possible that such a shoe is on the drawing board ... and made just for disc golf.

Sep 02 2005, 01:58 AM
I sorta like New Balance, something similiar to this...

http://www.nbwebexpress.com/detail.asp?type=MNFTRN&style=M808AT

Id say get a pair or gortex socks then you wont have to worry about what shoe you wear...

Sep 02 2005, 02:03 AM
I have some newballance as well, but im still all for comfort over grip anyday. i havent worn shoes or socks outside of work for almost a year now :D. i stick to my birks. the only problem i have with them is the suede footbed gets slippery if i get my foot in the water while crossing the creek.

i saw a great pair of sandals in the other shoe thread that i was gonna buy, but i lost the link. it was some company that specialized in sandals and shoes that could get wet while on the trails. anyone remember?

Sep 02 2005, 02:37 AM
Whatever brand you like for comfort (I picked comfort for the poll) make sure you check to see if they have models with VIBRAM soles. They are the shizz. Vibram is a seperate co that makes mega tough soles for many major shoe companys. They stay tough on concrete tees. If you happen to play only natural tees, disreguard previouss statement. I have some Northface Brice (low cut for ankle freedom that are great for winter (they are a little big at size 12 but big socks make up the diff.)

Sep 02 2005, 02:55 AM
Furthur:
Most shoes will not HOld up to scraping your foot on the ground.. I used to play tennis and the older new balances had rubber on most of the front part of the shoe for that purpose, but i doubt it would hold up on Textured concrete..

One Solution:
We used to use a solution on our HOckey Skates that you applied like head cement on to the toe of your hockey skates.. It would Make a Hard Plastic Shell over the area you painted. YOu could try to do that to the parts of your shoe that are affected.. I guess it could work.

-Scott Lewis

dischawk20
Sep 02 2005, 02:56 AM
Im suprised a lot of people are saying solomons...

I bought a pair of solomons and they were TOTALLY trashed in 3 WEEKS!!!!... laces came apart, the shoe it self came apart on the sides not to mention numerous holes in each shoe

It may be that I played with them in KC when it poured and we got no break so they were absolutely saturated for a good 36 hours.. that may have something to do with it

I wear an old pair of kswiss now and they are absolutely fine.. ive worn them for over a year and have no complaints

xterramatt
Sep 02 2005, 07:36 AM
I like the Timbas because the Goretex keeps your feet, socks and the inside of the shoes dry.

What is the point of the goretex socks, they make your feet REEEEK, they allow your shoes to get drenched, and therefore they will be sloshy and feel wet. And after rounds, you'll have a poor social life because you'll smell like wet dogs and vomit. Keep your feet dry and they won't stink. Gore Tex socks are like a STINKubator. the best feel dry socks are a pair of SMARTwool socks.

Boneman
Sep 02 2005, 10:56 AM
jgarcia9102, this might be the sandal (http://www.biteshoes.com/orthosport/styles/6512a.htm), however if it isn't, these are great. I've also been using the Primal (http://www.biteshoes.com/orthosport/styles/4023a.htm), which is a watersport shoe (it has a LOT of ventalation), but also works well for casual DG. They definately have a better rand around the toe than most running shoes.

Sep 02 2005, 11:05 AM
I hope so because they are very stiff right now and very uncomfortable, especially in the heal.



I had the same problem with my Merrils. For me they were amazing shoes but tore the crap out of my heels. I switched to some trail running Adidas and they're much more comfortable, but not as good overall. They were about half the price of the Merrils, though.



I didn't like the Merrils I bought either. They were rather heavy and very uncomfortable. Luckily, I bought them 1/2 size big, and put some gel inserts in them. Now, when it rains, I am gellin.

Sep 02 2005, 12:39 PM
In my book there are now only two brands of sandals...Keen and Chaco.

There used to be another brand, Alps, but Teva bought them out and then stopped making their sandal. You can find Teva Alps every once and awhile, but they are around $100...Back when they were just Alps and the first year Teva made them, you could find them for around $40. :(

Sep 02 2005, 12:48 PM
Boneman, yea, that was the brand. Bite. i lost that link. i was gonna get a pair of those. they look like they have great traction, but Styles like the Muesli and the Granola look really nice. the primals or Xtentsion would probably be the best for disc golf tho. thanks for the link!

Sep 02 2005, 01:18 PM
I usually where my Nike ACG sandals in the summer. If i hit the water, I can just walk right in.

Sep 02 2005, 04:44 PM
Ever heard of "SealSkin" socks?

Heard these are the bomb. Just bought one pair $35 ... keeping my fingers crossed.

Sep 02 2005, 05:27 PM
Those primals sound very interesting (designed for amphibious..); does anyone else have any experience with them?

I'm also thinking of getting some sandals. My worry would be lack of support and turning my ankle. What would you recommend? the xtension?

m_conners
Sep 02 2005, 05:52 PM
I found these to have incredible traction, support and durability:

http://partyoptions.net/pinatas/unique/shoe.jpg



Very nice, MC!!!!

I wonder if I can find them in my size (13).



Now that would be a sight, a grown man is size 13 pumps playing disc golf :D I would have to get a picture of that.

m_conners
Sep 02 2005, 05:53 PM
I have recently begun moving away from platform shoes into something a little more comfortable and golf appropriate....

http://www.trocadero.com/bnc19/items/389335/catphoto.jpg

Nothing quite like foot binding! And to think, there are people now days beginning to start binding again...



I think I saw a girl at Octoberfest last year wearing those :D

m_conners
Sep 02 2005, 05:54 PM
Ever heard of "SealSkin" socks?

Heard these are the bomb. Just bought one pair $35 ... keeping my fingers crossed.



Happy B-Day Doc...I personally don't like the seal skins, I like Rocky's, they feel more comfortable...never leak either.

Boneman
Sep 02 2005, 06:01 PM
The Xtension 2 is very nice, and is the closest thing to a running shoe/sandal you can get. I throw in mine all the time. I order the orthos, so I get a couple of foot bed options ... very comfy. I feel the support is good, and the small toe protector works well, without being stupid looking, lol.

Sep 02 2005, 09:14 PM
Thanks for the birthday wishes. It's been a great day already and getting better.

how about some details on those "rocky" things you mention. I'm familiar with Rocky Boots - have a pair - great product.

Just so you know, I deal mostly with rainy situations, not walking through creeks.
thanks

Sep 04 2005, 01:27 AM
I have Sealskin Socks and I've been wearing them for almost 2 years this december.
Aside from them getting dirty and starting to smell over time(probably after a year of using them a lot) I hand washed them and they turned out fine.. I even Machine washed them which isn't recommended and now they smell really good and they still hold water out for up to 3 hours which is pretty good for socks.

-Scott Lewis

Sep 04 2005, 10:24 AM
Adidas Sambas and Rocky gore-tex socks. My home course has a mix of natural and rubber pads, but I regularly play on concrete. Never had a problem.

quickdisc
Sep 04 2005, 06:48 PM
I have been trying to order those Salomon XTR or Xtra sport climber shoes. $ 115.00 Anywhere else cheaper ?

williethekid
Sep 04 2005, 07:50 PM
I found them today @ EMS, they are PERFECT. The North Face Buildering shoes. Built for bouldering and scrambling these shoes have a unique vibram sole which is aggressive for dirt and grass tee's, but the toe has a slightly less agressive tread for cement and rubber tee pads. The best part about these shoes is they have a rubber reinforcer on the part where the shoe binds to the sole for longer lasting shoes. Check them out on the ems website under hiking shoes, I think they were $85.

xterramatt
Sep 04 2005, 10:16 PM
Just ordered a set of the Timbaland Delerion GTX. They have the gaiters, and are made with Gore Tex XCR. We'll see if the quality holds up. While I've enjoyed my New Balance 476s, they simply do not last. I've worn out the area at the sides of the base of the laces on 2 pairs now. It's the Achilles toe of these shoes. Will let ya know how what I think could be the ultimate DG shoe turns out.

ellswrth
Sep 05 2005, 09:55 AM
The North Face Adrenaline Gore-Tex XCR has been working out well for me.

http://www.rei.com/online/store/ProductDisplay?productId=47862341&storeId=8000&catalogId=40000008000&langId=-1&color=KHAKI/WHEAT-T&img=/media/192344.jpg&view=large&vcat=REI_SEARCH

TreeShark
Sep 05 2005, 12:10 PM
I never knew they had a special disc golf shoe. :confused:

Boneman
Sep 05 2005, 04:19 PM
The question in the poll, is meant to ask ... Would a special disc golf shoe intrest you ... or are you happy using shoes meant for hiking/climbing, etc. for disc golf? If you could purchase a "disc golf" shoe, what features and in that priority, would you ask for if you had options.

bcary93
Sep 05 2005, 07:41 PM
I have worn the same pair of Lowa Strato (http://www.zappos.com/n/es/d/722199494/page/1.html) for about 4 yrs. I have the over the ankle version but they all have the same design where the sole curls up over the toe in one piece. I would think you'll burn thru the leather upper long before you'd have any problems with the sole and you can protect the leather with some shoe goo on the toe to absorb that scraping-on-the-concrete you mentioned.



I go through a new pair of shoes every 4 months because I tear the sole off the front of my shoe, then rip through the toebox. Anyone suggest a shoe that has a very well made rubber front?

williethekid
Sep 05 2005, 11:08 PM
Buy the north face buildering I am positive everyone will love them.

jdebois
Sep 06 2005, 02:46 PM
Does anyone know if Nike and Salomon are similar in size?

I always wear a Nike size 14 so I was hoping I'm the same in Salomon so I can place an order online. I'm a 13 in Saucony's so I want to be careful before making the purchase.

brock
Sep 07 2005, 08:34 PM
Merrells are comfy, but are rough on the toes when walking mountain courses.. i've lost 2 toenails from them.
Solomons are good depending on the pair chosen.
haven't tried northface yet

used cletes for a while, but if they're too long (like Nike shark) it will eventually damage the knees.(be forwarned)
so, now i'm going to try some nike turf shoes for football/softball.
nice, lightweight, soft, grippy, short rubber cletes in a mid/high top shoe to protect ankle. only $19 from ebay. ($60+ from manufacturer)
hope this photo link works

http://cgi.ebay.com/NIKE-MENS-TURF-SHOE-MISSION-TURF-SIZE-9_W0QQitemZ7710354269QQcategoryZ63850QQcmdZViewIte m#ebayphotohosting

xterramatt
Sep 07 2005, 11:28 PM
OK, Nike dude, fix that link, you are messing up the page...

Anyway, My Timberlands came today. Very cool. The gaiters are pretty slick. The protection from wetness and other leg irritants, and the comfort and flexibility of a shoe.

They are not as flexible a sole as my running shoes, but they aren't that heavy. just a little heavier than my New Balances.

The gaiters go on and off easy, but require removing the shoe to get em on. but they are tiny and will fit in a ziploc baggie.

Check em out. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/50342491@N00/)

bschweberger
Sep 07 2005, 11:34 PM
Booooo, no picture of the Tread, that is the most important part.

xterramatt
Sep 07 2005, 11:55 PM
Just for you, Shmebbie. http://www.zappos.com/images/717/7176528/1733-162283-2.jpg

snoophaney
Sep 08 2005, 12:34 AM
Do they come in Carolina blue?? :D

xterramatt
Sep 08 2005, 12:53 AM
nope.

the only thing I'm not used to yet are the laces. it's a cinching plastic clip. no tying. It's cool, but I seem to end up with a long lace that sorta sits up off the shoe. It can be tucked under the laces, or looped through a small eyelet for the gaiters, and it has a little velcro hook on the end to lock it to something, I just haven't found the perfect place to keep it tucked away.

My old old old ACG shoes had this cool flap tounge that hooked over the bottom lace to cover up the laces, thereby keeping them free from hooking on stuff. I miss those things. They were black, orange and lavender, but they were wicked comfortable and the first ACG shoe EVER. They had a convex heel, so you felt a little sketchy walking, but man, they were comfortable, like slippers. I actually called Nike up 5 years later when I wore through the soles and toes and tried and tried and tried to get a pair. I even got creative and told em I was a famous whitewater rafting guide who needed a pair for a period movie we were doing... no dice. One of these days I'll find a new pair. maybe....

here's a shot of the other color they came in.... I think I would shred them playing disc golf.

thumbnail of em (http://i7.ebayimg.com/03/i/04/c8/f2/bc_1_b.JPG)

protomag
Sep 08 2005, 09:23 AM
ecco makes some extremely nice footwear, and they last forever...kinda spendy though
http://www.eccousa.com/shoes/mens/outdoor/boots/new-track-iv-high/483/detail.aspx

Sep 16 2005, 03:26 PM
I had just about convinced myself to buy some sandals for disc... Then, somehow, I ended up with a splinter (looks like thorny brush) on THE SIDE of my big toe. It broke off in there and got swallowed up by the skin.

My gf picked at it for a while with a needle and tweezers until we got it out late last night. Now I carry tweezers in my bag.

If I can get splinters wearing shoes, sandals may be too dangerous.

Boneman
Sep 16 2005, 03:50 PM
Eww ... that sounds gnarly. If you still want to wear sandals, both Bite, and Keen make sandals with pretty good toe protection. The Bite Primal is basically a sandal/shoe with loads of ventilation, and a relaxed fit (may be too relaxed for hardcore play -- replacing the bungee lace with regular shoe laces helps). The terrain I play in has cactus, so sandals are a little sketchy (but I still wear them). The Bite Primal works pretty good at giving some protection from splinters and cacti.
With sandals, I always get about a half size larger shoe, so I have about a half inch [of bumper] in front of my toes.

Sep 16 2005, 04:19 PM
Thanks for the advice; I'll do a search for them. Merril's is a good shoe; mine are begining to break in a bit.

I figure I got the thorn due to the fact that they are ventilators, but I'd hate to think what would of happened had I not been wearing them.

Maybe I should start breaking in another pair, so that I have some in 3 stages of wear: stable, understable...ok it seemed funny at the time.

Sep 16 2005, 04:32 PM
Bone, the primals, are they a sandal or shoe?

Boneman
Sep 16 2005, 04:46 PM
Primals are a shoe/sandal, designed for water sports, in a way. Primal Photo (http://www.biteshoes.com/orthosport/styles/4023a.htm), ALL the black areas on this picture [see link] are ventalated material (you can see your foot through it). The fit is very much like a comfy sandal, unless you tighten them, then they feel like a shoe. They are wide in the front, and med-wide in the back.
I like mine. They took a little getting used to after wearing hiking tennies for so long. But I'm used to them now, and they work well for me.

Sep 16 2005, 05:36 PM
The picture looks like a shoe, but a shoe that feels like a sandal is a must try. Thnx again. Those have about the same protection as my merrils.

Sep 16 2005, 06:01 PM
I love my Vans shoes, but they don't have quite enough ankle support, I played a rough course this past weekend, and my ankles are still a little sore. So I'm wondering if anyone has suggestions for a good, comfortable(similar fit to Vans shoes) boot or shoe with great ankle support?

Thanx in advance

bfunkyp
Sep 16 2005, 06:23 PM
I just picked up a pair of Keen Taos shoes. I have only played one round in them but I have to give them top marks. The traction is as good as any light hiker that I have played in, they are REALLY light and very breathable. I would highly recommend this shoe for disc golf.

Sep 16 2005, 06:29 PM
http://a712.g.akamai.net/7/712/225/1d/www.eastbay.com/images/products/zoom/4-139364_z.jpg

Oh yeah!

Boneman
Sep 16 2005, 06:59 PM
Dang! The search is over ... Time to start another shoe thread, ;)

Sep 16 2005, 07:12 PM
Reebok's do not fit me at all....keep searching :DI want to get some merrell's but they're a bit more than i was wanting to pay.

Sharky
Sep 18 2005, 08:28 AM
May I see the soles :confused: :cool:

dischick
Sep 19 2005, 05:44 AM
best shoes that i haev found for disc golf...
"shoes for crews" (i work in restuarant) slip resistant and comfy as heII

Sep 19 2005, 02:57 PM
I noticed that water resistance ranks up there in the survey. When I started shopping around, I was told to make sure I got Gore tex; however, I started thinking that water proof intended to keep moisture out would keep moisture in.

As a result, I chose to go with ventilator model and haven't regretted it. I keep telling myself that if I ever encounter a situation where I need water proof shoes, I'll buy a second pair, but it hasnt happened yet.

This hot dry climate makes keeping my feet cool more important than keeping them dry.

May be worth considering when designing or purchasing disc-specific shoes. I would imagine this is why many wear sandals (they are cool and I don't mean in the hip kind of way).

tafe
Sep 19 2005, 03:24 PM
Gore Tex breathes. Any moisture in your shoes will come out. A perfect complement are Coolmax socks. I have a few pairs of Merrell's. Gore-tex, ventilator, and rush (super-ventilated). I use them all, and usually take at least two to a tourney. But if you want only one pair, gore-tex will get you through the whole year.

xterramatt
Sep 19 2005, 03:30 PM
Still liking by Timberland Delerion GTX. I got to use the gaiters on a dewwy morning and they worked great. Highly recommend these if you want to invest in a new pair.

They are quite comfortable, but every once in a while it feels like my socks are getting hot. I'm thinking I should be wearing coolmax socks with them mostly, as cotton doesn't want to release the moisture.

Good traction, a narrow profile (but not necessarily narrow)and good lacing system.

The laces are a loop and use a lacve lock to keep them tight. I've yet to have to adjust them unless taking them on or off.

They rock!

junnila
Sep 19 2005, 03:37 PM
I totally agree, these are the best disc golf shoes I have ever owned. I just need to find a Timberland outlet near the Twin Cities and buy 3 more pairs. :D

Sep 19 2005, 03:44 PM
Gor Tex breathes? I thought it would make shoes hot. Especially since many of the people that I've talked to with dedicated shoes normally own two pair, one for wet and one for dry environment.

Sep 19 2005, 04:45 PM
Gor Tex breathes? I thought it would make shoes hot. Especially since many of the people that I've talked to with dedicated shoes normally own two pair, one for wet and one for dry environment.



http://www.gore-tex.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ContentGView?storeId=10001&catalogId=10001&langId=-1&productId=10366

xterramatt
Sep 19 2005, 05:08 PM
Hey Brad, if you find them at your local outlet PM me so I can go stock up too. If you see size 13 at a good price, I may have you buy em (I'm not too close to an outlet, and have limited weekend time).

Thanks.

Sep 19 2005, 05:40 PM
This is what worries me "Especially in colder weather".

Sep 19 2005, 06:14 PM
Got to thinking about the toe wearing problem. I used to have that happen (inner right toe area) when I threw mostly forehand. A lot of hunting boots these days have rubber reinforced toes so they don't wear out when walking thru brush. That would be a nice addition to a DG shoe (Salomon reps out there?) In the meantime a person could mask off all but the toe area and put a nice coat of truck bed liner or something similar on the shoe.

tafe
Sep 19 2005, 06:18 PM
You're reading way too much into this.
What Gore is trying to say is that if your feet are wet and clammy "especially in colder weather" they will not feel warm. That's all. There is NO appreciable difference in warmer weather.
The main reason I have more than one pair is so that I'm not wearing $100+ shoes EVERYWHERE. If I can get away with wearing the $60 non-GoreTex models, I will. Then when the soles are worn, I might not have to fork over another $100. But I could much more easily wear the GoreTex everywhere as I wouldn't have to worry about dew and rain.
Another reason for GoreTex shoes is that I don't like socks very much, so there is no way I'm going to wear GoreTex socks with another pair of liners.
Just get 'em! You WILL be amazed.

Sep 19 2005, 06:22 PM
This is what worries me "Especially in colder weather".



Read the whole sentence. It says "Especially in colder weather, breathability is crucial for keeping your feet dry and warm." It's suggesting that breathability is especally important in cold weather not that Gore Tex only breathes in cold weather.

If you want to keep your feet dry then also make sure not to use cotton socks. Cotton just holds the moisture next to your skin while many synthetic materials will wick the moisture away. This is more important in cold weather because it can mean the difference between toasty feet and frost bite.

Sep 20 2005, 06:03 PM
The main reason I have more than one pair is so that I'm not wearing $100+ shoes EVERYWHERE.

Understood, but I haven't ever talked to you; I'm talking about others that have offered advice.

tafe
Sep 21 2005, 10:31 AM
And I'm just offering as well. No offense even implied.

Sep 21 2005, 12:45 PM
None taken. I'm very happy with my ventilators; they do seem to keep my feet cool. I am curious about gore-tex though.

I don't know if I'm being more careless, but I keep stepping on thorns. The thick vibram souls have probably saved me some serious pain.

atreau3
Sep 21 2005, 02:03 PM
I have chameleons (two pair) that are goretex. They work very well to keep the water out, but also keep a lot of the moisture in. They are great, but definitely leave you with a damp foot. I like the sole of the shoe as well. But as with everything in life, there are tradeoffs. For tournaments, I wear one pair one round, then switch socks and shoes for the second.

Erick

Sep 21 2005, 02:18 PM
That sounds like what I was told; and chamelions were actually what was recommended first. Live Oaks projected temerature for Thursday is 102; would gore-tex be the right choice or my ventilators?

atreau3
Sep 21 2005, 02:25 PM
haha, 102? Ventilators... unless it is pouring outside....

Chameleons are great fall, winter spring...

tafe
Sep 21 2005, 02:56 PM
Try coolmax socks. I've never had a problem. Gold Toe makes some "trail" types that are thicker than cycling ultra-thin ones.

Sep 21 2005, 06:33 PM
I have some gold toes; I didn't like them. My feet are hotter with them. I am using some regular Adidas athletic socks that my gf bought.

Haven't tried the cool max stuff. The only cool max stuff I have is shirts, and they are great; seems they make sweat evaporate quicker.

thetruthxl
Sep 21 2005, 07:30 PM
I've tried alot of different styles of shoes for my game...considering I wear sz. 15, so I will buy anything from street runners to hiking boots...I've found Montrail makes a sturdy waterproof shoe. Very comfortable and chocked-full of rubber where it counts. They lasted me about two seasons, which is commendable.

I've thought about a type of modified track and field shoe , like a discus shoe. The principle is rotation on cement, so it must be valid. Unfortunately in my research, the whole sole is smooth, without much traction altogether.
Mix this sole to a waterproof top with 3/4 support in larger sizes and I'm bringing home a gross!

tafe
Sep 21 2005, 08:28 PM
I meant gold toe trail, not regs. They're made of coolmax, and they're the bomb. Just wish I had more than two pair.

Bizzle
Feb 09 2007, 12:41 PM
So, I need some durable....preferably water-proof shoes for those ever so common muddy days here in H-town.

Any suggestions?

Feb 09 2007, 12:43 PM
dunhams and they are only $25.00 and buy water proofer at walgreens

Bizzle
Feb 09 2007, 12:54 PM
dunhams and they are only $25.00 and buy water proofer at walgreens



Waterproofer.........like scotchguard? :confused:

Feb 09 2007, 01:30 PM
dunhams and they are only $25.00 and buy water proofer at walgreens



Waterproofer.........like scotchguard? :confused:


KIWI

Bizzle
Feb 09 2007, 01:46 PM
Killer....thanks

quickdisc
Feb 10 2007, 06:40 PM
I now have the Bite Shoe's High Top Version. Waterproof and very comfortable !!!!! I'm really hard on any shoe's and so far , these hold up very well !!!!!!

http://www.biteshoes.com/dg/styles/4555a.htm

drdisc
Feb 12 2007, 12:30 AM
FYI: anyone within 100 miles of Huntsville can go to Lavone Wolfe's store, Footcare Plus, and try on and buy some Bite's.
He has them in stock. They are pretty cool. They are about a half a size off your usual size.

dgdave
Oct 05 2008, 08:26 PM
Does anyone know if a warranty replacement pair of Salomon shoes has a one year warranty or if they fall under the original pair's year warranty?

Also, to anyone who has sent in a pair, how long did it take to get a replacement pair?

Karma Police
Oct 05 2008, 11:13 PM
I buy all of mine from REI and they take anything back if you are not satisfied. Just had to take a pair back not too long ago b/c the sole started coming off in just a few months.

dgdave
Oct 05 2008, 11:41 PM
I wanted to biy drom REI, but they didn't have 14s in stock

widiscgolf
Oct 06 2008, 12:02 AM
dgdave,

I believe it is a 2 year warranty.

Try zappos.com they might have your size. Great service and free shipping.

Josh

dgdave
Oct 06 2008, 12:42 AM
I've had the shoes for 8 months and just sent them in for the warranty replacement.

I got them and my new North Faces at zappos.

rhockaday
Oct 06 2008, 06:55 AM
I have had one pair of Salomons replaced by Salomon because the gortex lining started to leak. I had the replacement shoes within 3 weeks.

I haven't had any issues with the soles tearing off and have been using the same pair for DG for the last 2 years. I would wonder if the sole tearing off is an actual defect or if the shoe is being used in a manner it wasn't designed for.

Richard

widiscgolf
Oct 06 2008, 08:01 AM
Ok so what is your concern? Zappos should replace them with no problem.

Josh

dgdave
Oct 06 2008, 09:29 AM
Zappos doesn't do replacements for defective shoe. They only do a return for new only shoes, as far as I kmow.

All Salomon shoes come with a 1 year warranty from defects. I just sent in my 1st pair in because the material ripped after 8 months and I should be getting a new pair soon. I'm wanting to know if this new pair comes with a new 1 year warranty or if they dall under the 1st pair's warranty

widiscgolf
Oct 06 2008, 09:42 AM
Hmm....

Well I returned the same shoe different color for defective sole and received a new pair.

Give it a try.

zbiberst
Oct 06 2008, 10:20 AM
i think they only do it ONCE for free.

dgdave
Oct 06 2008, 11:07 AM
Is THEY Salomon or Zappos?

zbiberst
Oct 13 2008, 02:57 PM
zappos only does it once for free, and i think if you go through zappos, they handle the warranty instead of salomon, but you may be able to deal with S directly the second time.

nnovia
Oct 22 2012, 04:46 PM
What's the story on these Keen Men's DeLaveaga that are billed as "disc golf" shoes. Anyone wear them, summer, winter? Years ago I used to wear screw in cleats...when it was wet or soft...fewer when it was dry.
I have slipping and sliding and want to find a shoe that'll work in wet/soft/not dryyet...turf!

pterodactyl
Oct 23 2012, 12:44 PM
I like mine. They're just some nice grippy hiking-style boots.

discgolfstaJR
Oct 24 2012, 07:05 AM
Shusterick and Locastro at least used zero drop shoes at the USDGC. The marketing line for runners is that haveing the heel and the ball of the foot at the same height you get more tendon movement range from the heel tendons for more power requirement. These so called bare running shoes or minimalist shoes are also light so you get less fatigued and possibly a little quicker on the feet. I haven't tried the New Balance shoes those guys use. I have written some early results with Vivobarefoot Off Road mids here and the only gripe so far is that the sole is a little too hard for tees that have sand or small pebbles for too little grip:

http://discgolfreview.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=24995

I assume from testing down to 8 degrees Celsius that anything lower and you need a second layer of socks. Seal Skinz were my plan all the time for the winter and so far i've seen no problem that would make fall (it is that now in Finland) and colder weather use impractical.

I give a with warning and caveats recommendation for these shoes if you don't find anything with a tackier sole. The lugs that resist forward sliding in the heel and the ball of the foot lugs going in the other direction helping in avoiding putting slips are great but not bomb proof. I run legendarily fast to compensate for my weak arm so i might be the worst Fred Flintstone of this sport when it comes to losing shoe to ground traction. And in putting i prefer to stagger stance everything as long as possible so in thick grass possibly cut grass pieces too moving under the sole is still a problem. But both problems are much less than with any other shoes i've tried so far. It is up to you to find more traction from another sole if such a thing even exists with such an aggressive lugging.

You might be able to glue a BMX bike tire piece or your own lugs to an existing shoes. Or some other tire. I got this idea from runners making their own huaraches. I suggest you try 1 mm sole barefoot shoes for their weight and nimbleness to give you an idea and then imagine what removing the sides and the top do and you'll get why some extreme runners are following the example of Mexican indians whose tribe is known for their running prowess after they took 1st, 2nd and 4th place in a mountain race of 100 miles in the US in their scrap yard salvage huaraches.

I am very wary of recommending 1 mm soled shoes or huaraches for disc golf yet because i lack the experience of playing with them. I have played many rounds in 4 mm soled Vibram Fivefingers and you need to watch where you go to not hit the toes hard. I've had a toe nail drop off from playing in sneakers so it is possible to hurt yourself hard in many types of shoes and the chances go up with minimalist shoes. Dean Tannock had to retire from worlds a few years back defending his title after stepping on a sharp stick that punctured his leg.

If you want to go for minimalist shoes all year round the industry ain't really ready yet IMO. I have Vibram Komodosports that lack enough tread lugs for disc golf and the sole is too hard thus slick to avoid slipping even in the middle of the summer in dry conditions. I haven't played in Vibram Spyridons but in the shop they felt grippy enough for when the ground is not wet. Neither of these are water proof and a few months back Vibram Lontra a waterproof(or maybe only a water resistant judging by some comments) shoe, has a too slick sole tread size, shape and sole material wise. Because there probably aren't fivefinger water resistant socks you are limited to regularly shaped minimalist shoes. Water resistance is nice for not getting smelly quickly. I have not come across any minimalist shoes with a better grip than the one i have but i have not looked at every minimalist shoe around.

A possible solution is to get a minimalist shoe and add proper sole by yourself with toe and ankle protection and perfect your form to avoid toe dragging. And using water proof socks. The benefit of using ready made tires for the sole is that a larger piece is more likely to stay on the shoe than single lugs and larger piece is way more easier to glue in place quickly.

So this is an extremist view and i'm proud to call myself just that YMMV. I have not yet gotten round to building huaraches that eliminate the need for my Komodosports which then can be modded to have a sole that offers great traction. At least the BMX tyre i have felt fine. But it will be next year before i can truly test that out because i can't throw now and it is too cold and wet. I know from experience with any kind of shoe and that includes steel cleats that when the ground i covered in water that won't soak in from the ground having absorbed all that it can that the grass to mud contact is too weak. I've often separated the roots of the grass from the ground and surfed on grass pieces so running speed must be limited at times. Unfortunately in those poor conditions a hard stand still can rip a smaller piece of grass off. So if you want to avoid slipping ever in poor conditions mountaineering cleats are a great way to pierce the calf if you take steps or lock the legs in place and twisting the ankle, knees and back. So i can't recommend going overboard with cleats.

I have not seen cleats that work as well as chains for traction because of an immense traction surface area difference unless there are dangerously large spikes. I have not heard of chain based products that can handle being stepped on outside of ice or snow that does not have sand or pebbles on top. So again there is a need for experimentation. And this intrigued me now that i thought of it and i may need to go to a hardware store to buy some chain :) Mad hatter, professor or chainer? The latter sure paints me in a weird light:rolleyes:

The courses and conditions determine how crazy you need the shoes or shoe additions to be. Around here we have up to 3" of grass and cut grass separating shoes, shoe lugs, studs, spikes, chains what have you from the ground. For any real grip you need to reach the ground. Good luck in the winter because i've played in 15" snow with some loose snow on top of a layer of ice under which most of the snow was. My chain/spike assembly gripped the ice well through the top player of snow. Too bad that the ice broke under my weight and the throwing motion so the then separated piece of ice that i was locked to tilted because the snow underneath gave ground and my throw was made from a moving ground tilting me on my way to fall down on my side :-) I had an ice skate/surfboard moving with me while throwing yay! How cool is that? Well... cold and not helpful for accuracy and consistency. Good luck finding long enough spikes and using them safely because i've played in 27" of snow officially. In practice i've stood straight with snow up to my navel in a competition. And i saw another guy with the same problem. We aren't lilliputts. Welcome to play disc golf in the winter in Finland :-D Or perhaps you'd better come between June and early September...