I was not TOO surprised to learn what a problem it has been for local clubs to have there baskets stolen from the course.

This is crazy, but alas, I suppose the way of the world...

Anyway...I am a mechanical engineer/designer. I have a few ideas for a bulletproof lockout system for baskets. I have seen some of the basket lockout systems on local courses and it appears that once the lock is cut, the basket is easily stolen.

My question is, would a bulletproof lockout system (if simple and cost effective) help this situation?

Or would people just cut the basket loose?

The lock area is just one issue and that can certainly be better. Shackleguard locks can make it very difficult to use bolt cutters to remove the lock. Good locks have sometimes just meant the top half of the tab will be sawed thru. The installation in the ground with cement and rebar "prongs" deters them from being completely dug out, cement ball and all.

The lock area is just one issue and that can certainly be better. Shackleguard locks can make it very difficult to use bolt cutters to remove the lock. Good locks have sometimes just meant the top half of the tab will be sawed thru. The installation in the ground with cement and rebar "prongs" deters them from being completely dug out, cement ball and all.



It would be easy to design a lockout that was bullet proof to everything but a torch...but if the poles are being cut, what difference would it make?

One idea I had was using 6" schedule 80 6" pipe that is as tall as the pole.

Then the outer large pipe would be secured in the ground.

Then mount the basket pole inside that with a lock that could only be accessed through a small hole, around the corner of the opening. This would protect the lock and mechanism from bolt cutters.

"Cutting the pole" issue has already been solved successfully. Just drop two lengths of rebar loosely in the pipe that are long enough to stretch 6"-12" above the lock. I know of at least two instances where a bloody hacksaw blade was found in the partially cut pipe the next day...

Bloody? Like human blood? Or just a ruined blade?

Yes, like human blood. I never saw it but heard about it. Most of my new courses have the rebar in the pipes, just in case...

"Cutting the pole" issue has already been solved successfully. Just drop two lengths of rebar loosely in the pipe that are long enough to stretch 6"-12" above the lock. I know of at least two instances where a bloody hacksaw blade was found in the partially cut pipe the next day...



Being in the Fire Sprinkler trade.......I used a tool everyday that could remove a basket in about 5 seconds.. :p

The rebar idea works great for Hacksaws...but thats about it.
;)

Being in the Fire Sprinkler trade.......I used a tool everyday that could remove a basket in about 5 seconds..



So, it looks like I'll know who took any baskets with rebar in them then... :p

Being in the Fire Sprinkler trade.......I used a tool everyday that could remove a basket in about 5 seconds..



So, it looks like I'll know who took any baskets with rebar in them then... :p



Ill show you sometime, it would SHOCK you.....
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I guess I shouldnt of shelled out the $1000's for all the baskets Ive installed.....dang it all, I could have been stealing them all the time

Don't fill the pipe with rebar, just fill it with sand mix which is hard enough to dull metal saws so they don't cut, even carbide blades.

I know the tool he uses to cut pipes in 5 seconds. I won;t post it here though.

Execute Basket Thiefs. I can't stand people that think their enjoyment is worth more than the hundreds of other people that use public courses every week. I mean what a joke, they can go play all 18 anytime they want but I guess having a stolen one in their basement is a better enjoyment for them. I am not all about "snitching" or "ratting"(almost lost my car once for refusing to) but I can promise you if I ever knew someone took one and couldn't convince them to return it, I would have no choice in my opinion but to turn them in.

It's starting to become a problem here in BG. We've had 2 baskets stolen from different parks, and have found one just laying all beaten up on the road. One was returned to the course all mangled up and spray painted black. We know its not actual disc golfers, but some sort of security cams are being considered.

Digging concrete slugs out of the ground is as easy as pie when the ground is suited for it. I dug up several in a couple of hours. I can't imagine a way to stop theives personally. But I promise if I catch someone at it, it won't be pretty.

I like that Avatar the best Frisbee.

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Digging concrete slugs out of the ground is as easy as pie when the ground is suited for it. I dug up several in a couple of hours. I can't imagine a way to stop theives personally. But I promise if I catch someone at it, it won't be pretty.



Proximity mines on timers?

Digging concrete slugs out of the ground is as easy as pie when the ground is suited for it. I dug up several in a couple of hours. I can't imagine a way to stop theives personally



These must not have been the kind with rebar prongs. We pound rebar outwards from the hole before the cement is poured so the cement ball has up to three rebar prongs flaring out 6-12" into the surrounding ground. You just have to dig a much bigger hole so it definitely slows down the digging process. If the ground doesn't hold the prongs well, then it may not do as much in some areas.

Don't fill the pipe with rebar, just fill it with sand mix which is hard enough to dull metal saws so they don't cut, even carbide blades.

I know the tool he uses to cut pipes in 5 seconds. I won;t post it here though.



Ever see XXXX XXXX XXXX?

The opening scene is XXXX XXXX going down the row cutting the tops off of parking meters...



Great, now every basket thief in the country is going to rent that movie to see how...

Go back and delete the post, dude

Don't fill the pipe with rebar, just fill it with sand mix which is hard enough to dull metal saws so they don't cut, even carbide blades.

I know the tool he uses to cut pipes in 5 seconds. I won;t post it here though.



Ever see XXXX XXXX XXXX?

The opening scene is XXXX XXXX going down the row cutting the tops off of parking meters...



Great, now every basket thief in the country is going to rent that movie to see how...

Go back and delete the post, dude



Better yet we should have the movie banned from the stores!!!

What movie?

:cool:

Digging concrete slugs out of the ground is as easy as pie when the ground is suited for it. I dug up several in a couple of hours. I can't imagine a way to stop theives personally. But I promise if I catch someone at it, it won't be pretty.



Proximity mines on timers?



Snipers. Quick, effective, and gives the added benefit of population control. :)

Snipers. Quick, effective, and gives the added benefit of population control. :)

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I had that thought yesterday. We installed 1 basket in a neighborhood park with 2 more on the way. Within a week the basket had been mangled. They somehow broke the pole above the tray, breaking the basket in two pieces. We are not sure if it was kids or an angry old man from the neighborhood. I think i was the only one who even got a chance to use it. A sniper on one of the nieghborhood houses roof and problem would get handled. Anyone know a Sniper for hire? :D

Snipers. Quick, effective, and gives the added benefit of population control. :)



I had that thought yesterday. We installed 1 basket in a neighborhood park with 2 more on the way. Within a week the basket had been mangled. They somehow broke the pole above the tray, breaking the basket in two pieces. We are not sure if it was kids or an angry old man from the neighborhood. I think i was the only one who even got a chance to use it. A sniper on one of the nieghborhood houses roof and problem would get handled. Anyone know a Sniper for hire? :D

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Terry might know someone....... :o

:D