What brand of sunglasses is best for tee shots, and what color tint? Which brand is best for hyzer shots, and what putts. Does polaroid help near water hazards? How many strokes come off your game?

The cheapest, ugliest pair I can find!

Tifosi Pave!!!

I wear Oakleys so all the gangstas think I'm OG.

Smith's Sliders

Smith theory, intercahngable lenses for different conditions

Those polarized one that dude wears on saturday moring fishing shows. And the granny goggles

Oakly M Frame fo sho. I go with a light blue lens that is not very dark and it seems to be perfect for changing light conditions...

Mayn, that OG dog, yomsayn?

SPY OPTIC (http://spyoptic.com/) http://spyoptic.com/img/spy_logo.gif

I do actually need to find some that don't fall off. I had a pair fall off in a casual round one time needless to say my drive did not go where I was aiming.

I actually worked for OAkley for two years. Right now, and for the next five years OAkley has the patents for what they call XYZ optics. This is the style in which the lenses are cut. They are thick on top and fade thinner towards the bottom and also think on the inside and fade to thin. This helps with curved lenses, keeping your vision from refracting as it does when looking through water. In fact, as a test for nonbelievers, we would take laser pointers and fire the beam through the lenses of not just OAKLEYS, but all competitors as well. You would be surprised to see where the laser beams ended up after going through MAUI JIMS or Ray ban. Also, OAkley uses "pure polycarbonate". They take a 6 inch thick block of polycarbonate and heat it to liquid form. then they let it sit until all heavier impurities sink to the bottom. Of that six inch block, the only make one lens. Other companies take this six inch block and make up to 8 lenss. Also, being a pure polycarbonate makes OAKLEY lenses impact resistant. In fact we used to shoot the lenses with Pellets traveling at 100 ft per second and the would NOT shatter, crack, or bend in toward the eye. They would scratch though. Another test was dropping a 1 kilo wieght with a sharpened point on the end onto the lens from 3 feet up, for the SAME results. I would recommend Monster Dogs(OAKLEY) for the discgolfer because of their price($65) and light weight frame. I am not saying these lenses are scratch resistant, but they are SWEET....

Thanks for the info. I kind of randomly chose Oakley's and have loved them ever since, but I did not realize exactly why they are superior to the competition.

I use Smith sunglasses. Don't know what model my black frames are, but they have polerized lenses, fit really well, and after about 4 years are still in really great condition.
Got a pair of Smith Fusion sunglasses last year, with interchangeable lenses. They are VERY light, but fit great and don't fall off. I like the RC30 lense, and want to get a pair of RC22 polerized lenses for them this year. The bronze color blocks 99.9% of reflective glare, and increase shadow defenition and depth perception.
I've been using Smith products for over 20 years, and have always received very good customer support. Smith Sunglasses (http://www.smithoptics.com/technology.html?category=1&id=1)

Oakley's M-Frame with vented gold iridium shield. Cuts the glare and I can still see under the trees, in cloudy conditions, etc.

I've got two pair actually. One is an old pair (standard plastic frame) that is on it's 2nd shield. I usually wear these for DG, Ultimate, etc. The other is the Titanium M-Frame model (same shield color) I bought when the Oakley store opened here a couple of years ago. They're my everyday pair.

I don't know about all the technical stuff frizzaks, I just wear Oakleys cause that's what the punk was wearing when I jacked him, and his boots don't fit me.

as far as polarized lenses go...Oakley had patents as well for what is called injection molding...Other manufacturers(espesially Maui JIM) use multiple layers to polarize lenses. Multiple lenses or layers will create distorion...Put on your sunglasses and hold your hand in front of your face. Keeping our hand there, take the sunglasses on and off. Youll notice that how and where u see your hand will move/change. This is not a big deal on a 25 ft putt. On a 400 ft drive it makes a difference...just sayin.

who wears MAUI JIMiS?

Maui Jim's R502-23
http://www.mauijim.com/mjweb/public/images/lores/sngl/LQG502-02.jpg
The rose tinted lenses are best (grey lenses pictured above) for increased contrast. The polycarbonate material is a little lighter tint than the glass lenses which is nice because I don't have to remove the glasses when I'm putting. The polycarbonate sport glasses are so lightweight you will forget you are wearing them. They never shift position on your head and will never fall off and get damaged.
The rose glass lenses that Maui Jim makes, however, are like magic when you put them on. Contrast is increased and depth perception is inhanced. Try them for yourself.

LOL...why dont u tell them about the magical layering technique.

how did i know i was going to get hate for my post? I am just trying to share my own opinion about my favorite golfing glasses and my experience with them. I have had oakleys before and they are nice too. I haven't noticed any distortion with oakleys or mj's. I have had sun glasses that distorted and warped the image (my prescription glass lenses too) and I would never buy those again.
I tend to look directly where I'm throwing when I'm golfing too so I'm not sure the oakley technology would help me anyways

:cool:Rose colored lenses are (the most) superior! :cool:

The cheapest



Keep it under $10 and you are golden.

oakleys....by far the best. try the amber/black iridium polorized......WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

oakleys....by far the best. try the amber/black iridium polorized......WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



yeah and when you lose them you are $200 in the hole

I'm an optometrist so I know just about everything that can be known about optics, vision, light, color, etc. I wear $6 polaroid sunglasses I get at the gas station Mini Mart. Anything over $6 is a total waste of money.

$6 sunglasses block UV, that's all you need worry about. And polaroid is good too.

I don't want to be a spoil sport, but these companies that soak you for hundreds of dollars for a few square inches of tinted plastic by mystefying everybody about all this optical balderdash are just suckering you out of your hard earned money.

I'm an optometrist so I know just about everything that can be known about optics, vision, light, color, etc. I wear $6 polaroid sunglasses I get at the gas station Mini Mart. Anything over $6 is a total waste of money.

$6 sunglasses block UV, that's all you need worry about. And polaroid is good too.

I don't want to be a spoil sport, but these companies that soak you for hundreds of dollars for a few square inches of tinted plastic by mystefying everybody about all this optical balderdash are just suckering you out of your hard earned money.


An optometrist that refers to polarized lenses as "polaroid" (the camera company), nice. very nice. It's "spoiled sport" too btw

No dude.Sport in this case means a party or good time. A guy who spoils the sport is a spoil sport. He's not spoiled, the sport is spoiled.

Sort of like a party pooper is not a party pooped. He's pooping the party not himself. (Although a guy who poops himself might spoil the party or the sport.)

Also, it's poloroid. Never question your doctor.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polaroid

Hey I used to live in Santa Barbara back in the 70's. Actually Goleta. Isla Vista is cool Santa Barbara reeks. Is More Mesa still nude?

Actually you are completely wrong and as someone who works in the field, YOU should be ashamed. Those cheap sunglasses you buy at the gas station or walmart do not block UV...In fact, all those lenses block is the government Minimum allowed...Oakleys (and maui Jims) actually block 100% of harmful UV...However....since we are on the UV topic...Those Cheap sunglasses you are buying are terrible for your eyes, not only because of poor optics(which can give you headaches from your brain self correcting the image), but of reflected light...The inside of those cheap lenses actually REFLECT light back into your eye when you have your back to the sun!!! Oakley puts an anti-reflective coating on the inside to protect you from this...MJ does also but not as good....and polaroid....LOL

No dude. UV coating is just a tint, it costs less than a penny to soak lenses in a UV blocking tint, so it's easy for manufactureres to add a UV blocker and still sell them for $6. If they have a little sticker on the front that says they block UV, which almost all of them do these days, then they do, and still cost $6. The $200 sunglasses have a wholesale price of $30 and the distributor gets them for about $15 each, they probably cost $5 each to manufacture. The salesmen for Oakley and Serenghetti tell us to sell them for $200 and get mad if we sell them for less, they say putting a $200 price tag on them gives "perceived value" the same way people pay $20,000 for a Rollex watch that isn't much better than a regular watch, or $500,000 for a Rolls Royce when a decent Honda costs $20,000 and it just as good. It's all about status and "perceived value." Sort of like the girl who plays hard to get so the guy thinks her #$*&$! doesn't stink.

As for reflected light coming off the back of a lens, glass reflects about 5% of light and plastic reflects 3% or 4%, it depends on the index of refraction. The higher the index the more they reflect, so if your Oakleys are polycarbonate which has an index close to glass, it might be 4 or 5%, but nobody is going to go blind if 4% of the light reflects back at you, it's not like a mirror that reflects 96%. Antireflective coating is a minor improvement. It drops reflected light from 4% to maybe 1%, it's hardly even noticable, like a placebo effect so people feel happy they lost $200 instead of $6.

The optics of a sunglass lens is zero. Some really crappy ones distort the image, that's true. Those are the $3 sunglasses. They are bad. But for decent $6 sunglasses they don't distort.

Other than tint and UV, the only add-on that actually helps your vision, and really does anything, is polaroid. That really does someting. All the rest is pretty much merchandizing and #$*&$! gimmicks. UV blocking is the main thing, and as I already told you, that costs less than a penny to put on. Also if you get Corning Serengettis you can get the automatic tint that gets light and dark, called photochromatic. That does something. Some people like it, I don't bother with it, I just take them off when I don't need them, and they don't work in the car.

You will get mad if I tell you what it costs to make a pair of prescription eyeglasses. If you have a regular prescription the wholesale price of the lenses is $2 each, we sell themfor $60 a pair. The "pure polycarbonate" safety glasses that you say Oakleys use, there's nothing special about polycarbonate, you can get whole windows made out of the stuff. Polycarbonate lenses cost us about $2.50 each, we sell them for $80. No big deal. That's Walmart prices, private doctors sell them for way over $100. That's just the lenses not the frame. If you pay $50 for the frame it probably costs us $3 wholesale. The better frames that you pay $250 for cost us $10. The super premium frames that private doctors sell for $500 cost about $30 wholesale. The prescription lenses, which are top quality ophthalmic plastic lenses, with perfect optics, cost us $2 each wholesale! Even lenses with high prescriptions in them costs us $3 each, while plain non-prescription lenses that we use to make ophthalmic quality sunglasses with perfect optics? They have no prescription in them and have a wholesale price of $1 each. We got you suckered. And if you want UV coating on your glasses, it costs us less than a penny to put it on, and we charge $15, private doctors sharge $25.

I'm only telling you all this because you are a disc golfer and we have to stick together. For my regular patients, I never tell them wholesale prices, they would get terribly mad. But I don't know an optometrist who would ever pay $200 for sunglasses, because we know they aren't any better than the UV blocking $6 ones. We can get Oakleys for $15 wholesale and still don't bother unless we like the style, and I wear Oakleys in the office so I can sell them, they see the doctor wearing them they buy. I don't wear $6 Mini Mart glasses in the office, only on the disc golf course.

As for UV, government requires 99% UV blocking for the little sticker.

As for the frames in $200 sunglasses, they are not high enough quality to accept a prescription lens unless you have a very mild prescription. We get people all the time coming in with Oakleys and Ray Bans, saying they want us to make prescription sunglasses out of them. We say, sorry, those frames won't accept prescription lenses, they aren't strong enough. As for Ray Ban, the frames are very poor quality and can only accept the sunglass lens they come with, if you try to put a heavy prescription lens in them, they fall apart. The Maui Jims and Oakleys are non-prescription only also. The Serrengettis can be made in prescription, but Corning won't let us do it, they come from the factory. You get the Serengetti lens in prescription, it's excellent. But you pay $400 for them instead of $200.

I would say the best quality sunglasses are Corning Serenghetti, hands down. Those people make good #$*&$!.

http://www.opticsplanet.net/serengeti-prescription-sunglasses.html

But even there, you can only get a prescription of +2.00 up to -4.00, if your prescription is any stronger than that, you need to come to me. I can make you any prescription!

Oakley Monster DOGGLEs. More unobtanium than allowed by law.

They only suck when it gets so steamy that they don't want to breathe because they are full wrapping your ugly mug.

Also, the whole thing about making lenses thick on top and thin on the bottom is called prism. We put prism in peoples glasses all the time, I don't see how they can have a patent on it.

Although you spit a good game, I cant really take you serious...I worked for OAKLEY and know the wholesale prices and only 2 or 3 are anywhere near as low as 15$..Also, many frames made by oakley a incredibly strong...The Oakley X-metal line for instance, is made of a titanium alloy. You have to try to break them and even then it is very difficult to break...Many of the optics that Oakley use on the CURVED lenses are patented. Now remember, I said Curved lenses...And furthermore , I said "pure polycarbonate", which is very different from polycarbonate....But its late..Im tired...Ill look again in the morn.

For $200 I can buy a compound camera lens with zoom that's made of 6 different pieces of glass, all coated with multiple layers of ARC, and all 6 pieces with different indices of refraction to minimize spherical abberation, pincusion distortion, barrel distortion, coma, petzval distortion, curvature of field, and all 6 pieces made of glass with different chromatic dispersion factors to minimize chromatic abberration, and all with carefully engineered hyperfocal distance, F stop, entrance pupil, exit pupil, and designed with extremely complicated optics. But sunglasses? They have no optics at all! It's just a thin, non refracting film of tinted plastic. There's no optics at all!

You pay $200 for sunglasses, you are paying $12 for the sunglasses and $188 for the "perceived value" which is a nice way of saying rip off.

It's like me selling you a frisbee for $200 and I can give you some aerodynamic #$*&$! reason why it's worth $200 but you won't believe me because you are a frizzak who can throw a $8 roc through the gap 400 feet and land 2 feet from the basket, you know a $200 frisbee won't go any better. You leave the optics up to me, dude, and you can be the expert on frizz. You win a tourney by 5 strokes with a $8 roc and tell the sucker why he'll lose with his $200 aerodynamic piece of #$*&$!.

man thats a lot of effort on a small survey thread....
OK already you win...... :p
I myself have the x metel romeos (first generation $320) and they work great

On personal preference alone... leaving the physics of light travel, refraction indices, and lense curvature out... I prefer the Smith Method with UV lenses. I've also worn Smith Sliders, and several pairs of oakley's less expensive lines.

For $200 I can buy a compound camera lens with zoom that's made of 6 different pieces of glass, all 6 pieces with different indices of refraction, and all coated with ARC and designed by computers to minimize chromatic abberation, spherical abberation, pincusion distortion, barrel distortion, coma, petzval distortion, curvature of field, and all with carefully engineered hyperfocal distance, F stop, entrance pupil, exit pupil, and designed with extremely complicated optics. But sunglasses? They have no optics at all! It's just a thin, non refracting film of tinted plastic. There's no optics at all!

You pay $200 for sunglasses, you are paying $12 for the sunglasses and $188 for the hype. And if you believe the hype, then they really sold you, man, they really sold you. It's all #$*&$!. Nothing but pure #$*&$! and there's a sucker born every minute who wants to give his money away.

You pay $200 for sunglasses? Here, I have a frisbee for $200 and I can give you some aerodynamic #$*&$! reason why it's worth $200 but you won't believe me because you are a frizzak who can throw a $8 roc through the gap 400 feet and land 2 feet from the basket, you know a $200 frisbee won't go any better. You leave the optics up to me, dude, and you can be the expert on frizzaking. You win a tourney by 5 strokes with a $8 roc and tell the sucker why he'll lose with his $200 aerodynamic piece of #$*&$!.



best Morgan thread & post ever! leave the chicken-winging to Schweb ;)

Contact lenses are different, we don't make anything on them. You pay $17 a box at Walmart and the private doctor charges $20 but the wholesale is $15 so nobody makes #$*&$! on contacts.

For $200 I can buy a compound camera lens with zoom that's made of 6 different pieces of glass, all 6 pieces with different indices of refraction, and all coated with ARC and designed by computers to minimize chromatic abberation, spherical abberation, pincusion distortion, barrel distortion, coma, petzval distortion, curvature of field, and all with carefully engineered hyperfocal distance, F stop, entrance pupil, exit pupil, and designed with extremely complicated optics. But sunglasses? They have no optics at all! It's just a thin, non refracting film of tinted plastic. There's no optics at all!

You pay $200 for sunglasses, you are paying $12 for the sunglasses and $188 for the hype. And if you believe the hype, then they really sold you, man, they really sold you. It's all #$*&$!. Nothing but pure #$*&$! and there's a sucker born every minute who wants to give his money away.

You pay $200 for sunglasses? Here, I have a frisbee for $200 and I can give you some aerodynamic #$*&$! reason why it's worth $200 but you won't believe me because you are a frizzak who can throw a $8 roc through the gap 400 feet and land 2 feet from the basket, you know a $200 frisbee won't go any better. You leave the optics up to me, dude, and you can be the expert on frizzaking. You win a tourney by 5 strokes with a $8 roc and tell the sucker why he'll lose with his $200 aerodynamic piece of #$*&$!.



best Morgan thread & post ever! leave the chicken-winging to Schweb ;)


Yup! Morgan, this post flexed out and went for BIG D!

What say ye re: Rose-colored lenses...or those amber glasses like Brad Hammock wears? Putting them on is a joy cuz everything looks so cool (neato) and sharp!

Rose/amber tint is great because it blocks the blue end of the spectrum. The blue end (blue and violet) is considered the harsh end. Violet light (and to a lesser extent blue light) can damage your eyes almost as much as ultraviolet. They are almost the same thing. Blue blockers are great!

I'm really liking my Bolle Meanstreak polarized lens. They are Extremely light, blue iridium lens. Silver frames. I love them.

curved, wrap lenses....

Oakley Pro M-Frames just becasue the fit very well and have lasted many years without requiring that I go to great lengths to protect the lenses from scratching.

Used to be a $5 sunglass person, but they don't last very long. Find ones that fit correctly and blocked light from the sides and top was difficult.

Do you store your M Frames in the box? They will stay good for years if you do. Sort of reminds me of the old Porche Carrera sunglasses in the fancy box.

Stay away from blue tint! That's the worst color. You want to block the blue out, not in. Unless they are blue on the outside and amber on the inside. Some lenses look blue from the front but when you wear them the light that goes into your eyes is amber. Blue mirror lenses often do this, they reflect all the blue off the front and let amber in.

amber red orange rose brown or grey tint is good

yellow is OK but doesn;t shade much

green is ok not so great

blue is bad

violet is very bad.

Nope, no special storage, and I am pretty rough on them. The lenses are just getting to the point I will have to replace them because of a number of small scratches they picked up last year. I always use lenses in the amber range except for one pair of neutral greys that I have.

I'm really starting to like my Tifosi Quam 1.5 Chromatic. The brand name is Tifosi for the un-initiated. They are the least expensive chromatic glasses I have found. About $50 for most of them. BTW, chromatic means color-changing as in orange to brown. Or clear to grey, whatever. Tifosi was worn by Ivan Basso, the 2006 Giro d' Italia winner, not a bad reccomendation.

Photochromatic

Frisbee,
I have yet to find a pair of sunglasses that actually fits my head (unless I buy wire frames and bend them). Any suggestions?

Try the equine center, horse blinders should fit

Bolle Kickers. If they fit my head I'm pretty sure they'll fit yours. Buy them through Opticsplanet rather than store and you'll save about $30 or so.

http://www.opticsplanet.net/bolle-action-sport-kicker-sunglasses.html