So a 10x kc roc just sold on ebay for $43 it was 179g was this a deal or about fmv. Also Whats the difference between the rancho, ontario, and san marino molds, i tried to search but no avail. Also whats the difference between the different x's like 10x v 9x v 8x, etc.

I've seen 10X go higher. There are several versions of the Rancho mold. I think all 8X were the same mold. I don't know if there is any difference in the 9X mold but the plastic is different. The 9X is like a modern stiff KC Roc. I heard that there was a mold change for the 10X and that some were run in the 8X mold. I also heard the same thing about the 11X. I have definately had two different types of 11X. One has a smooth dome and one has a dimple/navel in center of dome like an 8X. The dimpled 11X flys straight like an 8X.

Of course each mold was made in it's respective location. That doesn't mean that it's respective disc was made there, only the mold.

My mold observations;
Sannie- Very controlable, long when needed, nice turn when worn, great old plastic, consistant moderate dome. Lot of different tourney stamps and Big Bird.
Ontario- Straight or turnover when new, nice plastic, Various dome shapes, various cool custom stamps and Big Bird, cool colors too.
Rancho- I think the most versitile flight, just overstable, will turn when worn, several years of consistancy until the soft run a few years ago that wore fast and flew great anyway, then there was the poppytop run 1 1/2 year ago, they were very overstable, the new ones seem to be very normal. Big Bird stamp, little bird stamp flying the same direction as the BB stamp, and the newer little bird stamp flying the other direction on the stamp.

These are all DX observations.

Thank you for that information. As a player who has been playing only over a year and a new Roc collector, this information is appreciated. If anyone else has information regarding collecting and identifying Rocs, I also, would like to know.

If you are interested in Champion rocs, my website will help you learn about them. It is www.championroc.com. (http://www.championroc.com.) I can't help you with the rest of them... Good Luck
Eric

43$, if its a 8x/10x is a steal. By this summer, they will top $60-70. I was sold out of mine last summer, at $50 each, basically cause I didnt want to sell out of them. Supply and demand.